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Re: Why so few matches? #dna

Arline and Sidney Sachs
 

To answer Cindy g question "Why so few matches?, the first thing when
working with the Y-DNA is most males' mutations are lost because they have
no males on their direct paternal line. All males and females are from
the same two persons, one male and one female, that lived most likely at
different times. They were not the only people living then, therefore all
of others had their direct lines died out. For example, if one third of
the males have no sons, than only half of them will have grandsons by
their paternal line. As an example, my grandfather had seven sons. They
have only 5 sons. >from them, I was the only one with sons, 3 of them.
from them I only have one grandson. If he does not have any, the paternal
line will be gone.

Secondly the Y-DNA testing used STRs to find matches. Almost all the
mutations on them are the kind that a STR either lose or gain one compete
repeat at a time. However, at very rare time it is not a single repeat
but a multiple repeats or even a partial repeat. Beside this there are
several other type of mutation that could happened. By looking a only a
few people it is impossible to tell what type of mutation occurred. That
the reason haplogroup projects are so useful. I have a cousin who family
history is Cohenim. He has zero matches at the 12 markers level, only 2
at genetic distance of 2 at the 25 level, and only 4 at genetic distance
of 4 at the 37 level. What happened is that on a single marker, he was
few repeats off >from that of the Cohenim Module Haplogroup. He, or his
father, grandfather, or earlier, had the mutation of multiple repeats,
thus no close matches since each repeat is counted as one genetic
distance.

Sidney Sachs
Lorton, VA, USA


Re: Why so few matches? #dna

Miller Judith <gmajudymiller@...>
 

I only have six matches on my cousin’s ydna. Greenspan told me years
ago I was lucky to be here as that haplogroup was very sparse, perhaps
due to pogroms or disease like black death.

Judith Miller


DNA Research #DNA Re: Why so few matches? #dna

Arline and Sidney Sachs
 

To answer Cindy g question "Why so few matches?, the first thing when
working with the Y-DNA is most males' mutations are lost because they have
no males on their direct paternal line. All males and females are from
the same two persons, one male and one female, that lived most likely at
different times. They were not the only people living then, therefore all
of others had their direct lines died out. For example, if one third of
the males have no sons, than only half of them will have grandsons by
their paternal line. As an example, my grandfather had seven sons. They
have only 5 sons. >from them, I was the only one with sons, 3 of them.
from them I only have one grandson. If he does not have any, the paternal
line will be gone.

Secondly the Y-DNA testing used STRs to find matches. Almost all the
mutations on them are the kind that a STR either lose or gain one compete
repeat at a time. However, at very rare time it is not a single repeat
but a multiple repeats or even a partial repeat. Beside this there are
several other type of mutation that could happened. By looking a only a
few people it is impossible to tell what type of mutation occurred. That
the reason haplogroup projects are so useful. I have a cousin who family
history is Cohenim. He has zero matches at the 12 markers level, only 2
at genetic distance of 2 at the 25 level, and only 4 at genetic distance
of 4 at the 37 level. What happened is that on a single marker, he was
few repeats off >from that of the Cohenim Module Haplogroup. He, or his
father, grandfather, or earlier, had the mutation of multiple repeats,
thus no close matches since each repeat is counted as one genetic
distance.

Sidney Sachs
Lorton, VA, USA


DNA Research #DNA Re: Why so few matches? #dna

Miller Judith <gmajudymiller@...>
 

I only have six matches on my cousin’s ydna. Greenspan told me years
ago I was lucky to be here as that haplogroup was very sparse, perhaps
due to pogroms or disease like black death.

Judith Miller


The Galitzianer: Call for Papers #general

Gesher Galicia SIG
 

Gesher Galicia's journal, the Galitzianer, invites members and
non-members of Gesher Galicia to share family stories and other
accounts of general interest to genealogists. All submissions should
have a clear connection to Austrian Galicia (1772-1918) or to the
interwar period and the Holocaust in the territory of former Galicia.

In addition, the journal is seeking submissions in the following
specific categories:

** Secrets Beyond the Records: Examples include unusual archival
records >from Galicia or surprising details found in various sources
that have reshaped your understanding of your own family history.

** Education: Examples include the impact of education on your own
family in Galicia, the intergenerational tensions over education for
women, and stories about Galician public schools or the schools
established by Jewish philanthropist Baron de Hirsch.

** Galician Profiles: This category includes biographical profiles of
Jewish writers, musicians, artists, mathematicians, and political
figures who were active in Galicia.

** Other Topics: Jewish emigration >from Galicia (why and by what
route), the Jewish press in Galicia (the language and target
audience), literature published in Galicia in Yiddish or Hebrew.

Prior to submitting an article, prospective authors are encouraged to
contact Jodi Benjamin at submissions@geshergalicia.org with a brief
description of their proposal. Please note that all accepted articles
undergo editorial review and revisions to make sure they conform to
the style of the journal.

For other information about the Galitzianer, including general
instructions for authors, please see:
https://www.geshergalicia.org/the-galitzianer/

Andrew Zalewski
Editor, the Galitzianer
The Quarterly Research Journal of Gesher Galicia
---
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Send all inquiries to submissions@geshergalicia.org
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen The Galitzianer: Call for Papers #general

Gesher Galicia SIG
 

Gesher Galicia's journal, the Galitzianer, invites members and
non-members of Gesher Galicia to share family stories and other
accounts of general interest to genealogists. All submissions should
have a clear connection to Austrian Galicia (1772-1918) or to the
interwar period and the Holocaust in the territory of former Galicia.

In addition, the journal is seeking submissions in the following
specific categories:

** Secrets Beyond the Records: Examples include unusual archival
records >from Galicia or surprising details found in various sources
that have reshaped your understanding of your own family history.

** Education: Examples include the impact of education on your own
family in Galicia, the intergenerational tensions over education for
women, and stories about Galician public schools or the schools
established by Jewish philanthropist Baron de Hirsch.

** Galician Profiles: This category includes biographical profiles of
Jewish writers, musicians, artists, mathematicians, and political
figures who were active in Galicia.

** Other Topics: Jewish emigration >from Galicia (why and by what
route), the Jewish press in Galicia (the language and target
audience), literature published in Galicia in Yiddish or Hebrew.

Prior to submitting an article, prospective authors are encouraged to
contact Jodi Benjamin at submissions@geshergalicia.org with a brief
description of their proposal. Please note that all accepted articles
undergo editorial review and revisions to make sure they conform to
the style of the journal.

For other information about the Galitzianer, including general
instructions for authors, please see:
https://www.geshergalicia.org/the-galitzianer/

Andrew Zalewski
Editor, the Galitzianer
The Quarterly Research Journal of Gesher Galicia
---
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Send all inquiries to submissions@geshergalicia.org
---


Yiddish translation help #general

R Jaffer
 

I need help translating the street names and small map key for the
town of Lipcani in the former Bessarabia. The map can be viewed at:
https://digitalcollections.nypl.org/items/118fda30-6c60-0133-1885-00505686d14e#/?uuid=12ed1110-6c60-0133-a681-00505686d14e
[or https://tinyurl.com/y8rd982o --Mod.]

If you can help, please contact me directly and I will send you the
map along with a blank version you could print and then use to hand
write the English translation. You would then scan or take a picture
of the translated map and send it to me.

I am heading a project to translate and make available on JewishGen all
the town maps for Bessarabia.

Thank you,

Roberta Jaffer
JGSGB Bessarabia Sig Coordinator
Massachusetts, USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Yiddish translation help #general

R Jaffer
 

I need help translating the street names and small map key for the
town of Lipcani in the former Bessarabia. The map can be viewed at:
https://digitalcollections.nypl.org/items/118fda30-6c60-0133-1885-00505686d14e#/?uuid=12ed1110-6c60-0133-a681-00505686d14e
[or https://tinyurl.com/y8rd982o --Mod.]

If you can help, please contact me directly and I will send you the
map along with a blank version you could print and then use to hand
write the English translation. You would then scan or take a picture
of the translated map and send it to me.

I am heading a project to translate and make available on JewishGen all
the town maps for Bessarabia.

Thank you,

Roberta Jaffer
JGSGB Bessarabia Sig Coordinator
Massachusetts, USA


Searching: Lilli (Lily), daughter of Emma (nee KRAUSE) and Otto HELLER #germany

tomnavon@...
 

Dear friends and colleagues,

As part of my research about Otto HELLER (1897-1945), the Austrian
communist of Jewish origin, I am looking for a contact with his only
daughter Lilli, or any of her descendants or relatives.

Lilli (or Lily) was born probably in the late 1920s. In the late
1930s she was in exile in France together with her parents. In 1943
Otto was deported to Auschwitz, and Lilli with her mother Emma to
Ravensbrueck (a women concentration camp in Germany). Otto did not
survive, but Lilli and Emma were liberated and came back to live in
Paris.

Since the information about Heller is scarce - any connection to the
family could be very helpful.

Please pass this message over to anyone that might have any idea how
to reach Lilli or other relatives.

If you have any information that could lead to Lilli HELLER, or another
relative - please contact me through tomnavon@gmail.com

Gratefully, Tom Navon, University of Haifa, Israel


German SIG #Germany Searching: Lilli (Lily), daughter of Emma (nee KRAUSE) and Otto HELLER #germany

tomnavon@...
 

Dear friends and colleagues,

As part of my research about Otto HELLER (1897-1945), the Austrian
communist of Jewish origin, I am looking for a contact with his only
daughter Lilli, or any of her descendants or relatives.

Lilli (or Lily) was born probably in the late 1920s. In the late
1930s she was in exile in France together with her parents. In 1943
Otto was deported to Auschwitz, and Lilli with her mother Emma to
Ravensbrueck (a women concentration camp in Germany). Otto did not
survive, but Lilli and Emma were liberated and came back to live in
Paris.

Since the information about Heller is scarce - any connection to the
family could be very helpful.

Please pass this message over to anyone that might have any idea how
to reach Lilli or other relatives.

If you have any information that could lead to Lilli HELLER, or another
relative - please contact me through tomnavon@gmail.com

Gratefully, Tom Navon, University of Haifa, Israel


The Galitzianer: Call for Papers #poland

Gesher Galicia SIG
 

Gesher Galicia's journal, the Galitzianer, invites members and
non-members of Gesher Galicia to share family stories and other
accounts of general interest to genealogists. All submissions should
have a clear connection to Austrian Galicia (1772-1918) or to the
interwar period and the Holocaust in the territory of former Galicia.

In addition, the journal is seeking submissions in the following
specific categories:

** Secrets Beyond the Records: Examples include unusual archival
records >from Galicia or surprising details found in various sources
that have reshaped your understanding of your own family history.

** Education: Examples include the impact of education on your own
family in Galicia, the intergenerational tensions over education for
women, and stories about Galician public schools or the schools
established by Jewish philanthropist Baron de Hirsch.

** Galician Profiles: This category includes biographical profiles of
Jewish writers, musicians, artists, mathematicians, and political
figures who were active in Galicia.

** Other Topics: Jewish emigration >from Galicia (why and by what
route), the Jewish press in Galicia (the language and target
audience), literature published in Galicia in Yiddish or Hebrew.

Prior to submitting an article, prospective authors are encouraged to
contact Jodi Benjamin at submissions@geshergalicia.org with a brief
description of their proposal. Please note that all accepted articles
undergo editorial review and revisions to make sure they conform to
the style of the journal.

For other information about the Galitzianer, including general
instructions for authors, please see:
https://www.geshergalicia.org/the-galitzianer/.

Andrew Zalewski
Editor, the Galitzianer
The Quarterly Research Journal of Gesher Galicia
---
PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL ADDRESS.
Send all inquiries to submissions@geshergalicia.org
---


JRI Poland #Poland The Galitzianer: Call for Papers #poland

Gesher Galicia SIG
 

Gesher Galicia's journal, the Galitzianer, invites members and
non-members of Gesher Galicia to share family stories and other
accounts of general interest to genealogists. All submissions should
have a clear connection to Austrian Galicia (1772-1918) or to the
interwar period and the Holocaust in the territory of former Galicia.

In addition, the journal is seeking submissions in the following
specific categories:

** Secrets Beyond the Records: Examples include unusual archival
records >from Galicia or surprising details found in various sources
that have reshaped your understanding of your own family history.

** Education: Examples include the impact of education on your own
family in Galicia, the intergenerational tensions over education for
women, and stories about Galician public schools or the schools
established by Jewish philanthropist Baron de Hirsch.

** Galician Profiles: This category includes biographical profiles of
Jewish writers, musicians, artists, mathematicians, and political
figures who were active in Galicia.

** Other Topics: Jewish emigration >from Galicia (why and by what
route), the Jewish press in Galicia (the language and target
audience), literature published in Galicia in Yiddish or Hebrew.

Prior to submitting an article, prospective authors are encouraged to
contact Jodi Benjamin at submissions@geshergalicia.org with a brief
description of their proposal. Please note that all accepted articles
undergo editorial review and revisions to make sure they conform to
the style of the journal.

For other information about the Galitzianer, including general
instructions for authors, please see:
https://www.geshergalicia.org/the-galitzianer/.

Andrew Zalewski
Editor, the Galitzianer
The Quarterly Research Journal of Gesher Galicia
---
PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL ADDRESS.
Send all inquiries to submissions@geshergalicia.org
---


Searching: Lilli (Lily), daughter of Emma (nee Krause) and Otto Heller #france

tomnavon@...
 

Dear friends and colleagues,

As part of my research about Otto Heller (1897-1945), the Austrian
communist of Jewish origin, I am looking for a contact with his only
daughter Lilli, or any of her descendants or relatives.

Lilli (or Lily) was born probably in the late 1920's. In the late
1930's she was in exile in France together with her parents. In 1943
Otto was deported to Auschwitz, and Lilli with her mother Emma to
Ravensbruck (a women concentration camp in Germany). Otto did not
survive, but Lilli and Emma were liberated and came back to live in
Paris.

Since the information about Heller is scarce - any connection to the
family could be very helpful.

Please pass this message over to anyone that might have any idea how
to reach Lilli or other relatives.

If you have any information that could lead to Lilli, or another
relative - please contact me through tomnavon@gmail.com

Gratefully,
Tom Navon
University of Haifa
Israel


French SIG #France Searching: Lilli (Lily), daughter of Emma (nee Krause) and Otto Heller #france

tomnavon@...
 

Dear friends and colleagues,

As part of my research about Otto Heller (1897-1945), the Austrian
communist of Jewish origin, I am looking for a contact with his only
daughter Lilli, or any of her descendants or relatives.

Lilli (or Lily) was born probably in the late 1920's. In the late
1930's she was in exile in France together with her parents. In 1943
Otto was deported to Auschwitz, and Lilli with her mother Emma to
Ravensbruck (a women concentration camp in Germany). Otto did not
survive, but Lilli and Emma were liberated and came back to live in
Paris.

Since the information about Heller is scarce - any connection to the
family could be very helpful.

Please pass this message over to anyone that might have any idea how
to reach Lilli or other relatives.

If you have any information that could lead to Lilli, or another
relative - please contact me through tomnavon@gmail.com

Gratefully,
Tom Navon
University of Haifa
Israel


The Galitzianer: Call for Papers #galicia

Gesher Galicia SIG
 

Gesher Galicia's journal, the Galitzianer, invites members and
non-members of Gesher Galicia to share family stories and other
accounts of general interest to genealogists. All submissions should
have a clear connection to Austrian Galicia (1772-1918) or to the
interwar period and the Holocaust in the territory of former Galicia.

In addition, the journal is seeking submissions in the following
specific categories:

** Secrets Beyond the Records: Examples include unusual archival
records >from Galicia or surprising details found in various sources
that have reshaped your understanding of your own family history.

** Education: Examples include the impact of education on your
own family in Galicia, the intergenerational tensions over education
for women, and stories about Galician public schools or the schools
established by Jewish philanthropist Baron de Hirsch.

** Galician Profiles: This category includes biographical profiles of
Jewish writers, musicians, artists, mathematicians, and political
figures who were active in Galicia.

** Other Topics: Jewish emigration >from Galicia (why and by what
route), the Jewish press in Galicia (the language and target
audience), literature published in Galicia in Yiddish or Hebrew.

Prior to submitting an article, prospective authors are encouraged
to contact Jodi Benjamin at submissions@geshergalicia.org with a
brief description of their proposal. Please note that all accepted
articles undergo editorial review and revisions to make sure they
conform to the style of the journal.

For other information about the Galitzianer, including general
instructions for authors, please see:
https://www.geshergalicia.org/the-galitzianer/.

Andrew Zalewski
Editor, the Galitzianer
The Quarterly Research Journal of Gesher Galicia
---
PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL ADDRESS.
Send all inquiries to submissions@geshergalicia.org
---


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia The Galitzianer: Call for Papers #galicia

Gesher Galicia SIG
 

Gesher Galicia's journal, the Galitzianer, invites members and
non-members of Gesher Galicia to share family stories and other
accounts of general interest to genealogists. All submissions should
have a clear connection to Austrian Galicia (1772-1918) or to the
interwar period and the Holocaust in the territory of former Galicia.

In addition, the journal is seeking submissions in the following
specific categories:

** Secrets Beyond the Records: Examples include unusual archival
records >from Galicia or surprising details found in various sources
that have reshaped your understanding of your own family history.

** Education: Examples include the impact of education on your
own family in Galicia, the intergenerational tensions over education
for women, and stories about Galician public schools or the schools
established by Jewish philanthropist Baron de Hirsch.

** Galician Profiles: This category includes biographical profiles of
Jewish writers, musicians, artists, mathematicians, and political
figures who were active in Galicia.

** Other Topics: Jewish emigration >from Galicia (why and by what
route), the Jewish press in Galicia (the language and target
audience), literature published in Galicia in Yiddish or Hebrew.

Prior to submitting an article, prospective authors are encouraged
to contact Jodi Benjamin at submissions@geshergalicia.org with a
brief description of their proposal. Please note that all accepted
articles undergo editorial review and revisions to make sure they
conform to the style of the journal.

For other information about the Galitzianer, including general
instructions for authors, please see:
https://www.geshergalicia.org/the-galitzianer/.

Andrew Zalewski
Editor, the Galitzianer
The Quarterly Research Journal of Gesher Galicia
---
PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL ADDRESS.
Send all inquiries to submissions@geshergalicia.org
---


burial of Mordhar JOINOVICI #bessarabia

Lemberski Evelyne
 

burial of Mordhar JOINOVICI

Ladies and gentlemen,I search the name of the French cemetery where is buried Mordhar JOANOVICI
or JOINOVICI born December 14, 1898 in CHISNAU (Besserabia)

Thanking you for your help

Evelyne LEMBERSKI
evelynelemberski@yahoo.fr
SAINT MAURICE
France


Bessarabia SIG #Bessarabia burial of Mordhar JOINOVICI #bessarabia

Lemberski Evelyne
 

burial of Mordhar JOINOVICI

Ladies and gentlemen,I search the name of the French cemetery where is buried Mordhar JOANOVICI
or JOINOVICI born December 14, 1898 in CHISNAU (Besserabia)

Thanking you for your help

Evelyne LEMBERSKI
evelynelemberski@yahoo.fr
SAINT MAURICE
France


burial of Mordhar JOINOVICI #general

Lemberski Evelyne
 

Ladies and gentlemen,I search the name of the French cemetery where is
buried Mordhar JOANOVICI or JOINOVICI born December 14, 1898 in Chisnau
(Besserabia)

Thanking you for your help

Evelyne LEMBERSKI
evelynelemberski@yahoo.fr
Saint Maurice
France


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen burial of Mordhar JOINOVICI #general

Lemberski Evelyne
 

Ladies and gentlemen,I search the name of the French cemetery where is
buried Mordhar JOANOVICI or JOINOVICI born December 14, 1898 in Chisnau
(Besserabia)

Thanking you for your help

Evelyne LEMBERSKI
evelynelemberski@yahoo.fr
Saint Maurice
France

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