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Re: translation of "pfeifenbeschlager" #hungary

Peter I. Hidas <thidas@...>
 

on 2/18/03 12:22 PM, tom klein at bossman@ecologicaltech.com wrote:

(never letting the fact that i speak no german stop me...)

i checked a few online machine translation services and none would translate
"pfeifenschlager" into english or "pipefitter" into german. but they were
consistent in translating "pfeifen" as "whistle", and "pipes" as something
else. and i noticed the similarity to the word "schlager" which we use in
hungarian as slang for an old song, or tune.

so i wonder if it might be "organ tuner" in german?

regards,


....... tom klein, toronto


"Peter I. Hidas" <thidas@sympatico.ca> wrote:

Friends, I need help with translation. In 1837 Nathan Weisz was
registered as a Pfeifenbeschlager in Budapest. What occupation is
that? Was he a pipe maker? Pipefitter? metal maker? organ maker?

====================== Dr. P.I.Hidas

thidas@sympatico.ca peterhidas@yahoo.com

I discovered the answer: tinker
Thanks for trying.

Peter

======================
Dr. P.I.Hidas

thidas@sympatico.ca
peterhidas@yahoo.com

http://community.webshots.com/user/peterhidas/
http://www3.sympatico.ca/thidas/Hungarian-history/
http://www.geocities.com/peterhidas


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: translation of "pfeifenbeschlager" #hungary

Peter I. Hidas <thidas@...>
 

on 2/18/03 12:22 PM, tom klein at bossman@ecologicaltech.com wrote:

(never letting the fact that i speak no german stop me...)

i checked a few online machine translation services and none would translate
"pfeifenschlager" into english or "pipefitter" into german. but they were
consistent in translating "pfeifen" as "whistle", and "pipes" as something
else. and i noticed the similarity to the word "schlager" which we use in
hungarian as slang for an old song, or tune.

so i wonder if it might be "organ tuner" in german?

regards,


....... tom klein, toronto


"Peter I. Hidas" <thidas@sympatico.ca> wrote:

Friends, I need help with translation. In 1837 Nathan Weisz was
registered as a Pfeifenbeschlager in Budapest. What occupation is
that? Was he a pipe maker? Pipefitter? metal maker? organ maker?

====================== Dr. P.I.Hidas

thidas@sympatico.ca peterhidas@yahoo.com

I discovered the answer: tinker
Thanks for trying.

Peter

======================
Dr. P.I.Hidas

thidas@sympatico.ca
peterhidas@yahoo.com

http://community.webshots.com/user/peterhidas/
http://www3.sympatico.ca/thidas/Hungarian-history/
http://www.geocities.com/peterhidas


Budapest 1837W and 1837XYZ #hungary

Peter I. Hidas <thidas@...>
 

I am pleased to inform you that the first draft of my project is now
complete. The latest additions were W and XYZ. Click on
http://www3.sympatico.ca/thidas/Hungarian-history/ and go to Jews.

Good hunting!

Peter

Jewish Who's Who in (Buda)Pest, 1837-1845

Sources: Budapest F=F6v=E1ros Lev=E9lt=E1ra, Pest V=E1ros Lev=E9lt=E1ra [Budapest Capital
City Archives], Tan=E1csi Iratok [Council Papers, archivii medii, Intimata,
1837; Magyar Orsz=E1gos Lev=E9lt=E1r [Hungarian National Archives], Budapest, C
55, Departmentum Judaeorum, 1724-1876; Pester Lloyd; K=E1roly V=F6r=F6s, Budapest
legnagyobb ad=F3fizet=F6i 1873-1917 (Budapest: Akad=E9miai Kiad=F3, 1979.
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Dr. P.I.Hidas

thidas@sympatico.ca
peterhidas@yahoo.com

http://community.webshots.com/user/peterhidas/
http://www3.sympatico.ca/thidas/Hungarian-history/
http://www.geocities.com/peterhidas


Hungary SIG #Hungary Budapest 1837W and 1837XYZ #hungary

Peter I. Hidas <thidas@...>
 

I am pleased to inform you that the first draft of my project is now
complete. The latest additions were W and XYZ. Click on
http://www3.sympatico.ca/thidas/Hungarian-history/ and go to Jews.

Good hunting!

Peter

Jewish Who's Who in (Buda)Pest, 1837-1845

Sources: Budapest F=F6v=E1ros Lev=E9lt=E1ra, Pest V=E1ros Lev=E9lt=E1ra [Budapest Capital
City Archives], Tan=E1csi Iratok [Council Papers, archivii medii, Intimata,
1837; Magyar Orsz=E1gos Lev=E9lt=E1r [Hungarian National Archives], Budapest, C
55, Departmentum Judaeorum, 1724-1876; Pester Lloyd; K=E1roly V=F6r=F6s, Budapest
legnagyobb ad=F3fizet=F6i 1873-1917 (Budapest: Akad=E9miai Kiad=F3, 1979.
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
Dr. P.I.Hidas

thidas@sympatico.ca
peterhidas@yahoo.com

http://community.webshots.com/user/peterhidas/
http://www3.sympatico.ca/thidas/Hungarian-history/
http://www.geocities.com/peterhidas


Fw: #hungary

annsel <annsel@...>
 

----- Original Message -----
From: "annsel" <annsel@cox.net>
To: <annsel@cox.net>
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 10:21 PM


I have a baby naming certificate for my Great Grandmother and the town
listed is M. TeszAreb. I understand that it might be near Debrecen. I have
located several similar towns near the river with names that begin with
Tesz. Does anyone have any information as to the location of this town or
any information if the town is still in existence. Any help would be
appreciated. Annsel@cox.net
Moderator VK: The suffix Tisz- (not Tesz-) is pretty common because Tisza is a major river, but not in the immediate vicinity of Debrecen. Could you be looking for Tiszarad? If the entry is not easy to decipher that name might even be something like Mezopeterd, which is about 40 km south of Debrecen in Bihar megye.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Fw: #hungary

annsel <annsel@...>
 

----- Original Message -----
From: "annsel" <annsel@cox.net>
To: <annsel@cox.net>
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 10:21 PM


I have a baby naming certificate for my Great Grandmother and the town
listed is M. TeszAreb. I understand that it might be near Debrecen. I have
located several similar towns near the river with names that begin with
Tesz. Does anyone have any information as to the location of this town or
any information if the town is still in existence. Any help would be
appreciated. Annsel@cox.net
Moderator VK: The suffix Tisz- (not Tesz-) is pretty common because Tisza is a major river, but not in the immediate vicinity of Debrecen. Could you be looking for Tiszarad? If the entry is not easy to decipher that name might even be something like Mezopeterd, which is about 40 km south of Debrecen in Bihar megye.


Re: translation of "pfeifenbeschlager" #hungary

tom klein <bossman@...>
 

(never letting the fact that i speak no german stop me...)

i checked a few online machine translation services and none would translate "pfeifenschlager" into english or "pipefitter" into german. but they were consistent in translating "pfeifen" as "whistle", and "pipes" as something else. and i noticed the similarity to the word "schlager" which we use in hungarian as slang for an old song, or tune.

so i wonder if it might be "organ tuner" in german?

regards,


....... tom klein, toronto


"Peter I. Hidas" <thidas@sympatico.ca> wrote:

Friends, I need help with translation. In 1837 Nathan Weisz was
registered as a Pfeifenbeschlager in Budapest. What occupation is
that? Was he a pipe maker? Pipefitter? metal maker? organ maker?

====================== Dr. P.I.Hidas

thidas@sympatico.ca peterhidas@yahoo.com


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: translation of "pfeifenbeschlager" #hungary

tom klein <bossman@...>
 

(never letting the fact that i speak no german stop me...)

i checked a few online machine translation services and none would translate "pfeifenschlager" into english or "pipefitter" into german. but they were consistent in translating "pfeifen" as "whistle", and "pipes" as something else. and i noticed the similarity to the word "schlager" which we use in hungarian as slang for an old song, or tune.

so i wonder if it might be "organ tuner" in german?

regards,


....... tom klein, toronto


"Peter I. Hidas" <thidas@sympatico.ca> wrote:

Friends, I need help with translation. In 1837 Nathan Weisz was
registered as a Pfeifenbeschlager in Budapest. What occupation is
that? Was he a pipe maker? Pipefitter? metal maker? organ maker?

====================== Dr. P.I.Hidas

thidas@sympatico.ca peterhidas@yahoo.com


San Francisco Bay Area JGS Meetings on 2/23 and 2/24 #general

Jerome Jacobson <drjj@...>
 

East Bay Meeting:
Topic: My Travels and Genealogical Research in Poland
Speaker: Robinn Magid
Date: Sunday, February 23, 2003
Time: 12:30 PM
Where: Berkeley Richmond Jewish Community Center
1414 Walnut Street
Berkeley, CA

Peninsula Meeting:
Topic: Searching the Ellis Island Database and 1930 Census with Fewer
Tears
Speaker: Dr Stephen Morse
Date: Monday, February 24, 2003
Time: Library opens at 7 PM
Program begins at 7:30 PM
Where: Congregation Beth Am
26790 Arastradero Road
Los Altos Hills, CA
(Conference Room)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen San Francisco Bay Area JGS Meetings on 2/23 and 2/24 #general

Jerome Jacobson <drjj@...>
 

East Bay Meeting:
Topic: My Travels and Genealogical Research in Poland
Speaker: Robinn Magid
Date: Sunday, February 23, 2003
Time: 12:30 PM
Where: Berkeley Richmond Jewish Community Center
1414 Walnut Street
Berkeley, CA

Peninsula Meeting:
Topic: Searching the Ellis Island Database and 1930 Census with Fewer
Tears
Speaker: Dr Stephen Morse
Date: Monday, February 24, 2003
Time: Library opens at 7 PM
Program begins at 7:30 PM
Where: Congregation Beth Am
26790 Arastradero Road
Los Altos Hills, CA
(Conference Room)


Jewish Genealogical Society of Palm Springs California February 2003 Meeting #general

Glynne
 

Jewish Genealogical Society of Palm Springs
February Meeting

Date: Sunday, February 23, 2003
Time: 2:00 p.m.
Place: 40111 Portulaca Court, Palm Desert

Our February meeting will be a workshop on the Jewish Genealogy Website
www.Jewishgen.org. Learn how to access information files, how to register
for and use the Jewish Genealogy Family Finder, Family Tree of the Jewish
People, and other databases such as All Lithuania Database, All Latvia
Database, Jewish Records Indexing Poland, Ellis Island in One Step,
Shetlinks and much more.

The meeting will be held at the home of Gay Lynne Kegan. For more
informaiton please email glynne@dc.rr.com.

Gay Lynne Kegan
President JGS Palm Springs


Gay Lynne Kegan
Searching:HOFFENBERG, Josvainiai, Lithuania OWSIANKA Nasielsk Poland,
GOMER/GAMMER Chudnov, Urkaine KAGAN Novozlatopol Ukraine


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jewish Genealogical Society of Palm Springs California February 2003 Meeting #general

Glynne
 

Jewish Genealogical Society of Palm Springs
February Meeting

Date: Sunday, February 23, 2003
Time: 2:00 p.m.
Place: 40111 Portulaca Court, Palm Desert

Our February meeting will be a workshop on the Jewish Genealogy Website
www.Jewishgen.org. Learn how to access information files, how to register
for and use the Jewish Genealogy Family Finder, Family Tree of the Jewish
People, and other databases such as All Lithuania Database, All Latvia
Database, Jewish Records Indexing Poland, Ellis Island in One Step,
Shetlinks and much more.

The meeting will be held at the home of Gay Lynne Kegan. For more
informaiton please email glynne@dc.rr.com.

Gay Lynne Kegan
President JGS Palm Springs


Gay Lynne Kegan
Searching:HOFFENBERG, Josvainiai, Lithuania OWSIANKA Nasielsk Poland,
GOMER/GAMMER Chudnov, Urkaine KAGAN Novozlatopol Ukraine


Unknown uniform #courland #latvia

bgephart@...
 

I have just posted a photo on Viewmate of a relative of mine in a
uniform I can't identify. Can anyone recognize the uniform?

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/index.asp - VM2170

If the man is who we think it is, it should be a uniform from
Courland/Latvia, 1890-1902, but it doesn't look like anything I've seen
so far. Any ideas?

Thanks -
Betsy Thal Gephart
bgephart@comcast.net


Courland SIG #Courland #Latvia Unknown uniform #courland #latvia

bgephart@...
 

I have just posted a photo on Viewmate of a relative of mine in a
uniform I can't identify. Can anyone recognize the uniform?

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/index.asp - VM2170

If the man is who we think it is, it should be a uniform from
Courland/Latvia, 1890-1902, but it doesn't look like anything I've seen
so far. Any ideas?

Thanks -
Betsy Thal Gephart
bgephart@comcast.net


Re: RE : Seeking Details of Engineers in Poland #galicia

Peter Jassem <pjassem@...>
 

The first attempts to organize engineers in Galcia are
dated 1862. Towarzystwo Politechniczne was established
in 1877, although the name was adopted a year later.

Pleaase see interesting article by Józef
Pi&#322;atowicz
THE STANDPOINT OF THE TECHNICIANS OF LWÓW AND CRACOW
ON THE PROSPECT OF POLAND'S REGAINING INDEPENDENCE
at
http://www.wiw.pl/wielcy/kwartalnik/34.99s.89_108_english.asp
Many members including board members were of Jewish
extraction.

Please note that there was also an emigree Polish
Politechnical Society established in Paris by General
Jozef Bem in 1835.

Peter


--- Stephane Toublanc <toublanc@noos.fr> wrote: >
Thank-you very much.
May I ask, during which period? As the title is in
polish, was this
during 1920-1940? Do you know what was before?

Regards

Stephane Toublanc
Paris - France
mailto: toublanc@noos.fr
 
Looking for
ROSENMAN(N), Lwow, Buczacz and Tarnopol area.
MACHAUF, Krakow, Bielsko, Vienna.
BASSER, Krakow, FRIEDMAN, Krakow. WINKLER, Krakow.


-----Message d'origine-----
De : Peter Jassem [mailto:pjassem@yahoo.ca]
Envoyé : mardi 18 février 2003 01:14
À : Stephane Toublanc
Objet : Re: [galicia] Seeking Details of Engineers
in Poland

--- Stephane Toublanc <toublanc@noos.fr> wrote: >
Alexander Sharon wrote:<< NOT (Naczelna Organizacja
Techniczna) or The Main Technical Organization in
Poland was etablished back in Warsaw in 1935.>>

Does anyone know if there was a similar
organization
in Galicia before World War One or in the area that
used to be Galicia between the wars (1920-1935)?<
----
There was "Towarzystwo Politechniczne"
(Politechnical
Society) in Lvov, which was an offspring of
"Politechnika Lwowska" (Lvov Technical University)
and published a periodical "Czasopismo Techniczne".

Peter Jassem

______________________________________________________________________

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Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: RE : Seeking Details of Engineers in Poland #galicia

Peter Jassem <pjassem@...>
 

The first attempts to organize engineers in Galcia are
dated 1862. Towarzystwo Politechniczne was established
in 1877, although the name was adopted a year later.

Pleaase see interesting article by Józef
Pi&#322;atowicz
THE STANDPOINT OF THE TECHNICIANS OF LWÓW AND CRACOW
ON THE PROSPECT OF POLAND'S REGAINING INDEPENDENCE
at
http://www.wiw.pl/wielcy/kwartalnik/34.99s.89_108_english.asp
Many members including board members were of Jewish
extraction.

Please note that there was also an emigree Polish
Politechnical Society established in Paris by General
Jozef Bem in 1835.

Peter


--- Stephane Toublanc <toublanc@noos.fr> wrote: >
Thank-you very much.
May I ask, during which period? As the title is in
polish, was this
during 1920-1940? Do you know what was before?

Regards

Stephane Toublanc
Paris - France
mailto: toublanc@noos.fr
 
Looking for
ROSENMAN(N), Lwow, Buczacz and Tarnopol area.
MACHAUF, Krakow, Bielsko, Vienna.
BASSER, Krakow, FRIEDMAN, Krakow. WINKLER, Krakow.


-----Message d'origine-----
De : Peter Jassem [mailto:pjassem@yahoo.ca]
Envoyé : mardi 18 février 2003 01:14
À : Stephane Toublanc
Objet : Re: [galicia] Seeking Details of Engineers
in Poland

--- Stephane Toublanc <toublanc@noos.fr> wrote: >
Alexander Sharon wrote:<< NOT (Naczelna Organizacja
Techniczna) or The Main Technical Organization in
Poland was etablished back in Warsaw in 1935.>>

Does anyone know if there was a similar
organization
in Galicia before World War One or in the area that
used to be Galicia between the wars (1920-1935)?<
----
There was "Towarzystwo Politechniczne"
(Politechnical
Society) in Lvov, which was an offspring of
"Politechnika Lwowska" (Lvov Technical University)
and published a periodical "Czasopismo Techniczne".

Peter Jassem

______________________________________________________________________

Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca
______________________________________________________________________
Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca


Help identifying ViewMate files #galicia

Fran Segall <fransegall@...>
 

Hi, everyone. I have posted 2 ViewMate files. I have absolutely no
information about these people. These are among the many unlabeled
photos I found among my parents' things. If anyone recognizes them,
please contact me privately. Thank you for your help.

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=2171

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=2172

Fran

**************************

Fran Segall - Manassas, VA

Doing research on:
Galicia, Poland: STRICK, SCHWARTZ (Wielopole)
Galicia, Ukraine: LICHTMAN/LICHTMANN, BERGSTEIN
(Stanislavov/Ivano-Frankovs'k and Bolszowce/Bol'shovtsy),
Belarus: BROUDA/BREWDA/BREVDA/BREWDI, MELNIKOFF (Amstibove/Mstibovo),
Ukraine: KLETZEL/KLETSEL, SCHIF (Volhynia region)


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Help identifying ViewMate files #galicia

Fran Segall <fransegall@...>
 

Hi, everyone. I have posted 2 ViewMate files. I have absolutely no
information about these people. These are among the many unlabeled
photos I found among my parents' things. If anyone recognizes them,
please contact me privately. Thank you for your help.

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=2171

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=2172

Fran

**************************

Fran Segall - Manassas, VA

Doing research on:
Galicia, Poland: STRICK, SCHWARTZ (Wielopole)
Galicia, Ukraine: LICHTMAN/LICHTMANN, BERGSTEIN
(Stanislavov/Ivano-Frankovs'k and Bolszowce/Bol'shovtsy),
Belarus: BROUDA/BREWDA/BREVDA/BREWDI, MELNIKOFF (Amstibove/Mstibovo),
Ukraine: KLETZEL/KLETSEL, SCHIF (Volhynia region)


Pisha Paysha Hand Game Remembered #galicia

Carole Glick Feinberg <feincgs@...>
 

Dear Friends,

The thread which dealt with the hand game of Yiddish
rhyming, pinching, and tickling brings to mind the game my
grandmother taught us called (phonetically), "pisha
paysha", in which a string is tied, creating a circle. The
circle is tautly placed outside both upright hands which
face each other. Without recalling exactly how, I
remember shapes being created >from the string with a
finger >from each hand, each player taking a turn creating
a new geometric shape while easing the string off the
previous player's hands onto his/her own.

How does this relate to genealogy? I suspect this game
was known by different names which may identify the
geographic region in which it was played. "Pisha paysha"
was probably played in eastern Galicia, since my
grandmother came >from Drohobycz. If she learned it in her
childhood, then the game was played in the 1890s.

Do any other Genners recall this game? By what name did
you know it? >from what geographic region did those who
played it come?

I guess it's time I taught "pisha paysha" to my
grandchildren and pass along a family tradition.

Chag sameach Purim.

Carole Glick Feinberg
Atlanta, Georgia, USA
feincgs@cs.com

Searching: LERNER, BERNSTEIN, LANTNER, HAMERMAN,
GARTENBERG, SCHNEIDSCHER, KREUTZENAUER, KOCH,
WEBER/Drohobycz;
HILLEBRAND, SCHECK/Boryslaw;
SOMERFLEK, MALKISCHER, KATZ/Romanowe Siolo, Kujdance,
Zbaraz, Tarnopol;
GLEKEL/Volochisk, Belozerka, Kupil


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Pisha Paysha Hand Game Remembered #galicia

Carole Glick Feinberg <feincgs@...>
 

Dear Friends,

The thread which dealt with the hand game of Yiddish
rhyming, pinching, and tickling brings to mind the game my
grandmother taught us called (phonetically), "pisha
paysha", in which a string is tied, creating a circle. The
circle is tautly placed outside both upright hands which
face each other. Without recalling exactly how, I
remember shapes being created >from the string with a
finger >from each hand, each player taking a turn creating
a new geometric shape while easing the string off the
previous player's hands onto his/her own.

How does this relate to genealogy? I suspect this game
was known by different names which may identify the
geographic region in which it was played. "Pisha paysha"
was probably played in eastern Galicia, since my
grandmother came >from Drohobycz. If she learned it in her
childhood, then the game was played in the 1890s.

Do any other Genners recall this game? By what name did
you know it? >from what geographic region did those who
played it come?

I guess it's time I taught "pisha paysha" to my
grandchildren and pass along a family tradition.

Chag sameach Purim.

Carole Glick Feinberg
Atlanta, Georgia, USA
feincgs@cs.com

Searching: LERNER, BERNSTEIN, LANTNER, HAMERMAN,
GARTENBERG, SCHNEIDSCHER, KREUTZENAUER, KOCH,
WEBER/Drohobycz;
HILLEBRAND, SCHECK/Boryslaw;
SOMERFLEK, MALKISCHER, KATZ/Romanowe Siolo, Kujdance,
Zbaraz, Tarnopol;
GLEKEL/Volochisk, Belozerka, Kupil