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Re: translation of "pfeifenbeschlager" #hungary

Gábor Hirsch <hirsch@...>
 

tom klein schrieb:

(never letting the fact that i speak no german stop me...)

i checked a few online machine translation services and none would translate "pfeifenschlager" into english or "pipefitter" into german. but they were consistent in translating "pfeifen" as "whistle", and "pipes" as something else. and i noticed the similarity to the word "schlager" which we use in hungarian as slang for an old song, or tune.

so i wonder if it might be "organ tuner" in german?

regards,


....... tom klein, toronto


I tried to paste the information paste togather >from different
dictionaries. Pfeife means whistle as well as (tobacoo)pipe, "organ
tuner" is in my opinion Klavier- Orgel- Stimmer.

from the Pocket Oxford-Duden German dictionary:
Pfeife 1. (Trillerpfeife) whisfleji 2. (Tabakpfeife) pipe; 3. (fern:
unfähiger Mensch) dud
Pfeifenraucher m pipe smoker
Pfeifentabak m pipe tobacco

from the Orbis Englisch-Deutsch Deutsch-Englisch Wörterbuch:
Pfeife whistle; (Tabaks-) pipe
Pfeifenkopf pipe-bowl
Pfeifenrohr pipe--tube
Pfeifenspitze mouth-piece
Pfeifenstopfer pipe-stopper

Beschlag is ornamental-fitting, so it could mean the pipe-bowl or o9ther
decoration on either tobacco pipe or orga-whistle and its maker might be
a "Pfeifenbeschlager" but it is my guess.

Best regards
Gabor Hirsch


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: translation of "pfeifenbeschlager" #hungary

Gábor Hirsch <hirsch@...>
 

tom klein schrieb:

(never letting the fact that i speak no german stop me...)

i checked a few online machine translation services and none would translate "pfeifenschlager" into english or "pipefitter" into german. but they were consistent in translating "pfeifen" as "whistle", and "pipes" as something else. and i noticed the similarity to the word "schlager" which we use in hungarian as slang for an old song, or tune.

so i wonder if it might be "organ tuner" in german?

regards,


....... tom klein, toronto


I tried to paste the information paste togather >from different
dictionaries. Pfeife means whistle as well as (tobacoo)pipe, "organ
tuner" is in my opinion Klavier- Orgel- Stimmer.

from the Pocket Oxford-Duden German dictionary:
Pfeife 1. (Trillerpfeife) whisfleji 2. (Tabakpfeife) pipe; 3. (fern:
unfähiger Mensch) dud
Pfeifenraucher m pipe smoker
Pfeifentabak m pipe tobacco

from the Orbis Englisch-Deutsch Deutsch-Englisch Wörterbuch:
Pfeife whistle; (Tabaks-) pipe
Pfeifenkopf pipe-bowl
Pfeifenrohr pipe--tube
Pfeifenspitze mouth-piece
Pfeifenstopfer pipe-stopper

Beschlag is ornamental-fitting, so it could mean the pipe-bowl or o9ther
decoration on either tobacco pipe or orga-whistle and its maker might be
a "Pfeifenbeschlager" but it is my guess.

Best regards
Gabor Hirsch


Austria Hungarian Army KKL 1914-1918 #galicia

Sheila GROSSNASS <s@...>
 

Dear Siggers
My late Father in Law, Marcus Grossnass zl hyd (murdered in Auschwitz) who
was born in Svitanok which is the present day name for Swistelniki was an
army Captain who distinguished himself on the battlefield by singlehandedly
capturing Russian Soldiers and received a decoration for bravery. In trying
to trace records of this event, I realise that I have not come across a
Gesher Galicia site for Jewish members of the Austria Hungarian Army (KKL)
up to the end of the First WW. Is anyone else searching for this
information and would Gesher Galicia consider making information available.
There are FHL films giving information and lists which I haven't yet seen.
Looking forward to your response

from Sheila Grossnass


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Austria Hungarian Army KKL 1914-1918 #galicia

Sheila GROSSNASS <s@...>
 

Dear Siggers
My late Father in Law, Marcus Grossnass zl hyd (murdered in Auschwitz) who
was born in Svitanok which is the present day name for Swistelniki was an
army Captain who distinguished himself on the battlefield by singlehandedly
capturing Russian Soldiers and received a decoration for bravery. In trying
to trace records of this event, I realise that I have not come across a
Gesher Galicia site for Jewish members of the Austria Hungarian Army (KKL)
up to the end of the First WW. Is anyone else searching for this
information and would Gesher Galicia consider making information available.
There are FHL films giving information and lists which I haven't yet seen.
Looking forward to your response

from Sheila Grossnass


LIVINGSTONE, LEVINSTIEN, LAVINGSTON, LEBENSTEIN, LOWEINSTEIN, LEWENSTEIN (any variations) #galicia

Julie Shapero-Rogerson <julibill@...>
 

Looking for two brothers (possibly John or Percy) - any of the above
spellings

(the family lost contact in the 1940's) Last known address & possibly New
Mexico, USA. Santa Fe and Albuquerque

Brother (1) -One brother had a wife Anne, children Arthur and Sylvia
Brother (2) - wife Lillian, and son Johnny

Born / Russia (Towns Unknown)

I have been told that my great grandfather Jacob and his family came from
Russia. The following is the only information I have. 2 sons - see above and

My grandmother Mary LIVINGSTONE(anglicised) I am told >from Russia. She
married Morris (Moses SCHAPIRA) SHAPERO, >from Zbaraz, Galicia. In Blackburn,
England. 1898

her sister Janey LEVINGSTONE(anglicised). Married Louis COHEN in Prestwich,
England.

and sister Lilly, married FRIEDMAN (more than likely in England to).

Regards, Julie Shapero South Africa
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
DESPERATELY SEARCHING FOR: - SHAPERO, SHAPIRO, SCHAPIRA, SHAPIRA, SZAPIRA
SHAPEERO, SHARPLES(variations) / Zbaraz-Galicia- Poland & England.
LIVINGSTONE, LEVINSTIEN, LAVINGSTON, LEBENSTEIN, LOWEINSTEIN, LEWENSTEIN
(any variations) / Russia (Towns Unknown) & New Mexico, USA. DANK /
Tarnopol - Smykowce - Lwów - Zbaraz, Galicia Poland. BALKIN /. BENDER /.
BLUMBERG /. COHEN /. COHN / Hamburg,Germany. EDELSTEIN /. FLAXMAN /.
GOLDSTEIN /. HAIFER /. HEYMAN /., ITZIGSOHN /. LAMBERT /. MAY /. MEYERSON /
. NEILSON / South Africa. ROSENBERG / Germany. RUTOWITZ /. SILVERMAN /. ZINN
/.


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia LIVINGSTONE, LEVINSTIEN, LAVINGSTON, LEBENSTEIN, LOWEINSTEIN, LEWENSTEIN (any variations) #galicia

Julie Shapero-Rogerson <julibill@...>
 

Looking for two brothers (possibly John or Percy) - any of the above
spellings

(the family lost contact in the 1940's) Last known address & possibly New
Mexico, USA. Santa Fe and Albuquerque

Brother (1) -One brother had a wife Anne, children Arthur and Sylvia
Brother (2) - wife Lillian, and son Johnny

Born / Russia (Towns Unknown)

I have been told that my great grandfather Jacob and his family came from
Russia. The following is the only information I have. 2 sons - see above and

My grandmother Mary LIVINGSTONE(anglicised) I am told >from Russia. She
married Morris (Moses SCHAPIRA) SHAPERO, >from Zbaraz, Galicia. In Blackburn,
England. 1898

her sister Janey LEVINGSTONE(anglicised). Married Louis COHEN in Prestwich,
England.

and sister Lilly, married FRIEDMAN (more than likely in England to).

Regards, Julie Shapero South Africa
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
DESPERATELY SEARCHING FOR: - SHAPERO, SHAPIRO, SCHAPIRA, SHAPIRA, SZAPIRA
SHAPEERO, SHARPLES(variations) / Zbaraz-Galicia- Poland & England.
LIVINGSTONE, LEVINSTIEN, LAVINGSTON, LEBENSTEIN, LOWEINSTEIN, LEWENSTEIN
(any variations) / Russia (Towns Unknown) & New Mexico, USA. DANK /
Tarnopol - Smykowce - Lwów - Zbaraz, Galicia Poland. BALKIN /. BENDER /.
BLUMBERG /. COHEN /. COHN / Hamburg,Germany. EDELSTEIN /. FLAXMAN /.
GOLDSTEIN /. HAIFER /. HEYMAN /., ITZIGSOHN /. LAMBERT /. MAY /. MEYERSON /
. NEILSON / South Africa. ROSENBERG / Germany. RUTOWITZ /. SILVERMAN /. ZINN
/.


Help with ViewMate files #galicia

Fran Segall <fransegall@...>
 

Hi, everyone. I have posted 3 ViewMate files. I have absolutely no
information about these people. These are among the many unlabeled
photos I found among my parents' things. If anyone recognizes them,
please contact me privately. Thank you for your help.

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=2178

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=2179

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=2180


Fran

**************************

Fran Segall - Manassas, VA

Doing research on:
Galicia, Poland: STRICK, SCHWARTZ (Wielopole)
Galicia, Ukraine: LICHTMAN/LICHTMANN, BERGSTEIN
(Stanislavov/Ivano-Frankovs'k and Bolszowce/Bol'shovtsy),
Belarus: BROUDA/BREWDA/BREVDA/BREWDI, MELNIKOFF (Amstibove/Mstibovo),
Ukraine: KLETZEL/KLETSEL, SCHIF (Volhynia region)


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Help with ViewMate files #galicia

Fran Segall <fransegall@...>
 

Hi, everyone. I have posted 3 ViewMate files. I have absolutely no
information about these people. These are among the many unlabeled
photos I found among my parents' things. If anyone recognizes them,
please contact me privately. Thank you for your help.

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=2178

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=2179

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=2180


Fran

**************************

Fran Segall - Manassas, VA

Doing research on:
Galicia, Poland: STRICK, SCHWARTZ (Wielopole)
Galicia, Ukraine: LICHTMAN/LICHTMANN, BERGSTEIN
(Stanislavov/Ivano-Frankovs'k and Bolszowce/Bol'shovtsy),
Belarus: BROUDA/BREWDA/BREVDA/BREWDI, MELNIKOFF (Amstibove/Mstibovo),
Ukraine: KLETZEL/KLETSEL, SCHIF (Volhynia region)


Issy Smith VC #unitedkingdom

Harold Pollins <snillop@...>
 

Issy Smith was the second Jewish soldier in WWI to be awarded, in 1915, the
Victoria Cross. In the Jewish Chronicle of 8 October 1915 there is a report
of meetings at which he spoke At one meeting, the report states: 'In the
course of
his reply the Corporal stated that two of his brothers had fallen in the
war.'
His real name was Shmulovitch but there is no record in the Commonwealth War
Graves Commission of any such
soldiers with that name. If they used the name Smith then there is little
chance of tracing
them. The CWGC records some 2000 men named Smith who fell in 1914 and 1915.
I wonder if anyone has any knowledge of Issy Smith's brothers.

Harold Pollins


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Issy Smith VC #unitedkingdom

Harold Pollins <snillop@...>
 

Issy Smith was the second Jewish soldier in WWI to be awarded, in 1915, the
Victoria Cross. In the Jewish Chronicle of 8 October 1915 there is a report
of meetings at which he spoke At one meeting, the report states: 'In the
course of
his reply the Corporal stated that two of his brothers had fallen in the
war.'
His real name was Shmulovitch but there is no record in the Commonwealth War
Graves Commission of any such
soldiers with that name. If they used the name Smith then there is little
chance of tracing
them. The CWGC records some 2000 men named Smith who fell in 1914 and 1915.
I wonder if anyone has any knowledge of Issy Smith's brothers.

Harold Pollins


Re: Pisha Paysha Hand Game Remembered #galicia

Chana Saadia <hana_saadia@...>
 

That sounds like "cat's cradle" - it's played in various forms all over the
world, but our home (Galician ?) version didn't have words attached.

Chana Saadia
Israel
researching: GOLDMAN, HOLLANDER - Gorlice area; SEIDMAN, STEINHARDT -
Tarnopol, & related families.


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Pisha Paysha Hand Game Remembered #galicia

Chana Saadia <hana_saadia@...>
 

That sounds like "cat's cradle" - it's played in various forms all over the
world, but our home (Galician ?) version didn't have words attached.

Chana Saadia
Israel
researching: GOLDMAN, HOLLANDER - Gorlice area; SEIDMAN, STEINHARDT -
Tarnopol, & related families.


Re: Pisha Paysha Hand Game Remembered #galicia

Marjorie Rosenfeld <marjorierosenfeld@...>
 

Carole Glick Feinberg describes "a circle created by a piece of string from
which shapes are created >from the string with a finger >from each hand, each
player taking a turn creating a new geometric shape while easing the string
off the previous player's hands onto his/her own."

This sounds like what we used to call Cat's Cradle when I was growing up in
America (back in the remote past of the 1930's and 1940's). As far as I
know, children still play it. Only they don't have to be Jewish or say
anything in Yiddish! It starts with a loop of string placed on the outside
of two hands that are held apart to keep the string taut, but, as I recall,
with the string running in front of the middle finger (the one next to the
index finger) on each hand. Then you take the same finger >from the opposite
hand and insert it under the bit of string opposite and pull your hand
back--but you have to do this simultaneously with each hand. This creates
diamond shapes, and the next player then pinches where the string lines
intersect on both sides of the configuration created, using his thumb and
index finger on each hand and, firmly holding onto the string, he brings the
bit he's pinching over the sides of the rest of the string and underneath
the configuration and then up >from the bottom through the center, moving his
hands apart when this is completed to hold the string taut. Each time
there's a move by one of the players, a new configuration is created.

Marjorie Stamm Rosenfeld


Re: Pisha Paysha Hand Game Remembered #galicia

Tammy
 

Funny, I'm in my mid- 30's and my parents taught me Pisha Paysha as a card
game: Each player tried to get rid of his/her cards by placing the cards
on the opponent's exposed pile in either ascending or descending order;
simultaneously building the table >from ace to king in each suit. It
started out slow, but became a very fast chaotic game by the second
round. My families are from: Kanczuga Galicia, Bielsk Poland, Minsk
Belarus, and Dnepropetrovsk Ukraine. I wonder how a game with string
evolved into a game with a deck of cards!

Tammy Sarote
New York


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia RE: Pisha Paysha Hand Game Remembered #galicia

Marjorie Rosenfeld <marjorierosenfeld@...>
 

Carole Glick Feinberg describes "a circle created by a piece of string from
which shapes are created >from the string with a finger >from each hand, each
player taking a turn creating a new geometric shape while easing the string
off the previous player's hands onto his/her own."

This sounds like what we used to call Cat's Cradle when I was growing up in
America (back in the remote past of the 1930's and 1940's). As far as I
know, children still play it. Only they don't have to be Jewish or say
anything in Yiddish! It starts with a loop of string placed on the outside
of two hands that are held apart to keep the string taut, but, as I recall,
with the string running in front of the middle finger (the one next to the
index finger) on each hand. Then you take the same finger >from the opposite
hand and insert it under the bit of string opposite and pull your hand
back--but you have to do this simultaneously with each hand. This creates
diamond shapes, and the next player then pinches where the string lines
intersect on both sides of the configuration created, using his thumb and
index finger on each hand and, firmly holding onto the string, he brings the
bit he's pinching over the sides of the rest of the string and underneath
the configuration and then up >from the bottom through the center, moving his
hands apart when this is completed to hold the string taut. Each time
there's a move by one of the players, a new configuration is created.

Marjorie Stamm Rosenfeld


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Pisha Paysha Hand Game Remembered #galicia

Tammy
 

Funny, I'm in my mid- 30's and my parents taught me Pisha Paysha as a card
game: Each player tried to get rid of his/her cards by placing the cards
on the opponent's exposed pile in either ascending or descending order;
simultaneously building the table >from ace to king in each suit. It
started out slow, but became a very fast chaotic game by the second
round. My families are from: Kanczuga Galicia, Bielsk Poland, Minsk
Belarus, and Dnepropetrovsk Ukraine. I wonder how a game with string
evolved into a game with a deck of cards!

Tammy Sarote
New York


Re: Pisha Paysha Hand Game Remembered #galicia

Drexler <asleuth@...>
 

The game mentioned below with the string is one I learned as a child and it
was called cats cradle by those who played it, although I learned it from
Christian friends. The Pisha Paysha game I was taught by my grandmother
who was born in Lithuania was actually a card game played with a complete
deck of cards. It was similar to rummy or poker.

Patcha patcha kichalach was a game she played with all the children when we
were small and we use to clap hands while reciting the rhyme.

Anita Drexler
Sunny Isles Beach

Searching: MODEL and BERLIN Galicia

----- Original Message -----

The thread which dealt with the hand game of Yiddish
rhyming, pinching, and tickling brings to mind the game my
grandmother taught us called (phonetically), "pisha
paysha", in which a string is tied, creating a circle. The
circle is tautly placed outside both upright hands which
face each other. Without recalling exactly how, I
remember shapes being created >from the string with a
finger >from each hand, each player taking a turn creating
a new geometric shape while easing the string off the
previous player's hands onto his/her own.


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Pisha Paysha Hand Game Remembered #galicia

Drexler <asleuth@...>
 

The game mentioned below with the string is one I learned as a child and it
was called cats cradle by those who played it, although I learned it from
Christian friends. The Pisha Paysha game I was taught by my grandmother
who was born in Lithuania was actually a card game played with a complete
deck of cards. It was similar to rummy or poker.

Patcha patcha kichalach was a game she played with all the children when we
were small and we use to clap hands while reciting the rhyme.

Anita Drexler
Sunny Isles Beach

Searching: MODEL and BERLIN Galicia

----- Original Message -----

The thread which dealt with the hand game of Yiddish
rhyming, pinching, and tickling brings to mind the game my
grandmother taught us called (phonetically), "pisha
paysha", in which a string is tied, creating a circle. The
circle is tautly placed outside both upright hands which
face each other. Without recalling exactly how, I
remember shapes being created >from the string with a
finger >from each hand, each player taking a turn creating
a new geometric shape while easing the string off the
previous player's hands onto his/her own.


SINGER #ukraine

MATHOV Yehuda & Pnina <mathov@...>
 

M A T H O V Pnina & Yehuda.
Neve Efraym, ISRAEL

Dear People
Shalom
I shall apreciate your help with any information about Yoile and Gussie SINGER.

They were brothers, born in mid 19th century in Bessarabia and emigrated to North America around the end of the same century. Another brother, Moishe emigrated to South America.

Both, with their families, were the parents of at least four daughthers.

Thank all of you. Yehuda MATHOV in
Israel


researching families:
MATHOV - MATOFF - DASHEVSKY - VULISCHER - SHULKIN,
from Ukrayne.
SINGER - WATMAN - LANFIR - BLANC - DOCTOROVICH - HICK - PETASHNIK - GLUSHANKOV
from Bessarabia.
HONISBERG - DIEZENHAUS
from Poland.
WAADIAEFF - VAADIA
from Bukhara


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine SINGER #ukraine

MATHOV Yehuda & Pnina <mathov@...>
 

M A T H O V Pnina & Yehuda.
Neve Efraym, ISRAEL

Dear People
Shalom
I shall apreciate your help with any information about Yoile and Gussie SINGER.

They were brothers, born in mid 19th century in Bessarabia and emigrated to North America around the end of the same century. Another brother, Moishe emigrated to South America.

Both, with their families, were the parents of at least four daughthers.

Thank all of you. Yehuda MATHOV in
Israel


researching families:
MATHOV - MATOFF - DASHEVSKY - VULISCHER - SHULKIN,
from Ukrayne.
SINGER - WATMAN - LANFIR - BLANC - DOCTOROVICH - HICK - PETASHNIK - GLUSHANKOV
from Bessarabia.
HONISBERG - DIEZENHAUS
from Poland.
WAADIAEFF - VAADIA
from Bukhara