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Help with ViewMate files #galicia

Fran Segall <fransegall@...>
 

Hi, everyone. I have posted 3 ViewMate files. I have absolutely no
information about these people. These are among the many unlabeled
photos I found among my parents' things. If anyone recognizes them,
please contact me privately. Thank you for your help.

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=2178

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=2179

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=2180


Fran

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Fran Segall - Manassas, VA

Doing research on:
Galicia, Poland: STRICK, SCHWARTZ (Wielopole)
Galicia, Ukraine: LICHTMAN/LICHTMANN, BERGSTEIN
(Stanislavov/Ivano-Frankovs'k and Bolszowce/Bol'shovtsy),
Belarus: BROUDA/BREWDA/BREVDA/BREWDI, MELNIKOFF (Amstibove/Mstibovo),
Ukraine: KLETZEL/KLETSEL, SCHIF (Volhynia region)


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Help with ViewMate files #galicia

Fran Segall <fransegall@...>
 

Hi, everyone. I have posted 3 ViewMate files. I have absolutely no
information about these people. These are among the many unlabeled
photos I found among my parents' things. If anyone recognizes them,
please contact me privately. Thank you for your help.

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=2178

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=2179

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=2180


Fran

**************************

Fran Segall - Manassas, VA

Doing research on:
Galicia, Poland: STRICK, SCHWARTZ (Wielopole)
Galicia, Ukraine: LICHTMAN/LICHTMANN, BERGSTEIN
(Stanislavov/Ivano-Frankovs'k and Bolszowce/Bol'shovtsy),
Belarus: BROUDA/BREWDA/BREVDA/BREWDI, MELNIKOFF (Amstibove/Mstibovo),
Ukraine: KLETZEL/KLETSEL, SCHIF (Volhynia region)


Issy Smith VC #unitedkingdom

Harold Pollins <snillop@...>
 

Issy Smith was the second Jewish soldier in WWI to be awarded, in 1915, the
Victoria Cross. In the Jewish Chronicle of 8 October 1915 there is a report
of meetings at which he spoke At one meeting, the report states: 'In the
course of
his reply the Corporal stated that two of his brothers had fallen in the
war.'
His real name was Shmulovitch but there is no record in the Commonwealth War
Graves Commission of any such
soldiers with that name. If they used the name Smith then there is little
chance of tracing
them. The CWGC records some 2000 men named Smith who fell in 1914 and 1915.
I wonder if anyone has any knowledge of Issy Smith's brothers.

Harold Pollins


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Issy Smith VC #unitedkingdom

Harold Pollins <snillop@...>
 

Issy Smith was the second Jewish soldier in WWI to be awarded, in 1915, the
Victoria Cross. In the Jewish Chronicle of 8 October 1915 there is a report
of meetings at which he spoke At one meeting, the report states: 'In the
course of
his reply the Corporal stated that two of his brothers had fallen in the
war.'
His real name was Shmulovitch but there is no record in the Commonwealth War
Graves Commission of any such
soldiers with that name. If they used the name Smith then there is little
chance of tracing
them. The CWGC records some 2000 men named Smith who fell in 1914 and 1915.
I wonder if anyone has any knowledge of Issy Smith's brothers.

Harold Pollins


Re: Pisha Paysha Hand Game Remembered #galicia

Chana Saadia <hana_saadia@...>
 

That sounds like "cat's cradle" - it's played in various forms all over the
world, but our home (Galician ?) version didn't have words attached.

Chana Saadia
Israel
researching: GOLDMAN, HOLLANDER - Gorlice area; SEIDMAN, STEINHARDT -
Tarnopol, & related families.


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Pisha Paysha Hand Game Remembered #galicia

Chana Saadia <hana_saadia@...>
 

That sounds like "cat's cradle" - it's played in various forms all over the
world, but our home (Galician ?) version didn't have words attached.

Chana Saadia
Israel
researching: GOLDMAN, HOLLANDER - Gorlice area; SEIDMAN, STEINHARDT -
Tarnopol, & related families.


Re: Pisha Paysha Hand Game Remembered #galicia

Marjorie Rosenfeld <marjorierosenfeld@...>
 

Carole Glick Feinberg describes "a circle created by a piece of string from
which shapes are created >from the string with a finger >from each hand, each
player taking a turn creating a new geometric shape while easing the string
off the previous player's hands onto his/her own."

This sounds like what we used to call Cat's Cradle when I was growing up in
America (back in the remote past of the 1930's and 1940's). As far as I
know, children still play it. Only they don't have to be Jewish or say
anything in Yiddish! It starts with a loop of string placed on the outside
of two hands that are held apart to keep the string taut, but, as I recall,
with the string running in front of the middle finger (the one next to the
index finger) on each hand. Then you take the same finger >from the opposite
hand and insert it under the bit of string opposite and pull your hand
back--but you have to do this simultaneously with each hand. This creates
diamond shapes, and the next player then pinches where the string lines
intersect on both sides of the configuration created, using his thumb and
index finger on each hand and, firmly holding onto the string, he brings the
bit he's pinching over the sides of the rest of the string and underneath
the configuration and then up >from the bottom through the center, moving his
hands apart when this is completed to hold the string taut. Each time
there's a move by one of the players, a new configuration is created.

Marjorie Stamm Rosenfeld


Re: Pisha Paysha Hand Game Remembered #galicia

Tammy
 

Funny, I'm in my mid- 30's and my parents taught me Pisha Paysha as a card
game: Each player tried to get rid of his/her cards by placing the cards
on the opponent's exposed pile in either ascending or descending order;
simultaneously building the table >from ace to king in each suit. It
started out slow, but became a very fast chaotic game by the second
round. My families are from: Kanczuga Galicia, Bielsk Poland, Minsk
Belarus, and Dnepropetrovsk Ukraine. I wonder how a game with string
evolved into a game with a deck of cards!

Tammy Sarote
New York


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia RE: Pisha Paysha Hand Game Remembered #galicia

Marjorie Rosenfeld <marjorierosenfeld@...>
 

Carole Glick Feinberg describes "a circle created by a piece of string from
which shapes are created >from the string with a finger >from each hand, each
player taking a turn creating a new geometric shape while easing the string
off the previous player's hands onto his/her own."

This sounds like what we used to call Cat's Cradle when I was growing up in
America (back in the remote past of the 1930's and 1940's). As far as I
know, children still play it. Only they don't have to be Jewish or say
anything in Yiddish! It starts with a loop of string placed on the outside
of two hands that are held apart to keep the string taut, but, as I recall,
with the string running in front of the middle finger (the one next to the
index finger) on each hand. Then you take the same finger >from the opposite
hand and insert it under the bit of string opposite and pull your hand
back--but you have to do this simultaneously with each hand. This creates
diamond shapes, and the next player then pinches where the string lines
intersect on both sides of the configuration created, using his thumb and
index finger on each hand and, firmly holding onto the string, he brings the
bit he's pinching over the sides of the rest of the string and underneath
the configuration and then up >from the bottom through the center, moving his
hands apart when this is completed to hold the string taut. Each time
there's a move by one of the players, a new configuration is created.

Marjorie Stamm Rosenfeld


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Pisha Paysha Hand Game Remembered #galicia

Tammy
 

Funny, I'm in my mid- 30's and my parents taught me Pisha Paysha as a card
game: Each player tried to get rid of his/her cards by placing the cards
on the opponent's exposed pile in either ascending or descending order;
simultaneously building the table >from ace to king in each suit. It
started out slow, but became a very fast chaotic game by the second
round. My families are from: Kanczuga Galicia, Bielsk Poland, Minsk
Belarus, and Dnepropetrovsk Ukraine. I wonder how a game with string
evolved into a game with a deck of cards!

Tammy Sarote
New York


Re: Pisha Paysha Hand Game Remembered #galicia

Drexler <asleuth@...>
 

The game mentioned below with the string is one I learned as a child and it
was called cats cradle by those who played it, although I learned it from
Christian friends. The Pisha Paysha game I was taught by my grandmother
who was born in Lithuania was actually a card game played with a complete
deck of cards. It was similar to rummy or poker.

Patcha patcha kichalach was a game she played with all the children when we
were small and we use to clap hands while reciting the rhyme.

Anita Drexler
Sunny Isles Beach

Searching: MODEL and BERLIN Galicia

----- Original Message -----

The thread which dealt with the hand game of Yiddish
rhyming, pinching, and tickling brings to mind the game my
grandmother taught us called (phonetically), "pisha
paysha", in which a string is tied, creating a circle. The
circle is tautly placed outside both upright hands which
face each other. Without recalling exactly how, I
remember shapes being created >from the string with a
finger >from each hand, each player taking a turn creating
a new geometric shape while easing the string off the
previous player's hands onto his/her own.


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Pisha Paysha Hand Game Remembered #galicia

Drexler <asleuth@...>
 

The game mentioned below with the string is one I learned as a child and it
was called cats cradle by those who played it, although I learned it from
Christian friends. The Pisha Paysha game I was taught by my grandmother
who was born in Lithuania was actually a card game played with a complete
deck of cards. It was similar to rummy or poker.

Patcha patcha kichalach was a game she played with all the children when we
were small and we use to clap hands while reciting the rhyme.

Anita Drexler
Sunny Isles Beach

Searching: MODEL and BERLIN Galicia

----- Original Message -----

The thread which dealt with the hand game of Yiddish
rhyming, pinching, and tickling brings to mind the game my
grandmother taught us called (phonetically), "pisha
paysha", in which a string is tied, creating a circle. The
circle is tautly placed outside both upright hands which
face each other. Without recalling exactly how, I
remember shapes being created >from the string with a
finger >from each hand, each player taking a turn creating
a new geometric shape while easing the string off the
previous player's hands onto his/her own.


SINGER #ukraine

MATHOV Yehuda & Pnina <mathov@...>
 

M A T H O V Pnina & Yehuda.
Neve Efraym, ISRAEL

Dear People
Shalom
I shall apreciate your help with any information about Yoile and Gussie SINGER.

They were brothers, born in mid 19th century in Bessarabia and emigrated to North America around the end of the same century. Another brother, Moishe emigrated to South America.

Both, with their families, were the parents of at least four daughthers.

Thank all of you. Yehuda MATHOV in
Israel


researching families:
MATHOV - MATOFF - DASHEVSKY - VULISCHER - SHULKIN,
from Ukrayne.
SINGER - WATMAN - LANFIR - BLANC - DOCTOROVICH - HICK - PETASHNIK - GLUSHANKOV
from Bessarabia.
HONISBERG - DIEZENHAUS
from Poland.
WAADIAEFF - VAADIA
from Bukhara


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine SINGER #ukraine

MATHOV Yehuda & Pnina <mathov@...>
 

M A T H O V Pnina & Yehuda.
Neve Efraym, ISRAEL

Dear People
Shalom
I shall apreciate your help with any information about Yoile and Gussie SINGER.

They were brothers, born in mid 19th century in Bessarabia and emigrated to North America around the end of the same century. Another brother, Moishe emigrated to South America.

Both, with their families, were the parents of at least four daughthers.

Thank all of you. Yehuda MATHOV in
Israel


researching families:
MATHOV - MATOFF - DASHEVSKY - VULISCHER - SHULKIN,
from Ukrayne.
SINGER - WATMAN - LANFIR - BLANC - DOCTOROVICH - HICK - PETASHNIK - GLUSHANKOV
from Bessarabia.
HONISBERG - DIEZENHAUS
from Poland.
WAADIAEFF - VAADIA
from Bukhara


Lazovoye and Krivoy Rog #ukraine

Tammy
 

According to EIDB, some of my family came >from Krivoy Rog 47'55" 33'21" while other manifests stated they came >from Aleksandrovsk. >from what I understand Krivoy Rog is a shtetl within Aleksandrovsk, so some people were more specific about the place of origin than others.

My question comes in with the backs of some pictures that I was finally able to have translated. The pictures were taken in Lazovoye 47'41" 32'57". According to Shtetl Seeker, Lazovoye is 25 miles SW of Krivoy Rog. Is it likely that my ancestors would have traveled 25 miles to get their pictures taken during the early 1900's, or is it more likely that they actually lived in this smaller shtetl and used Krivoy Rog as their place of origin on the manifests?
Tammy Sarote
Tasu1@aol.com
New York


Leiber #ukraine

Silverman, Bill <bsilverman@...>
 

My Hebrew name is Leibe, and I am named for my g-grandfather Leibe, from
Podolia in Russia (Ukraine). I assume this means beloved.
Bill Silverman
SILVERMAN SADOWSKY MUSHER NUN ALEXANDER LIPKOWITZ LIPSKI


Where is Oulakhi, Bessarabia? #ukraine

Vivian308@...
 

Dear Genners,

I found a possible relative, Frida CHATZANSKY, on the EIDB. Her place of
birth is listed as Bessarabia, and the town as Oulakhi. The year she came
was 1923. My other Chatzansky's are >from Kiev, or somewhere near there; all
the records just say Kiev. I searched on ShtetlSeeker and found the most
promising choices to be Ol'khi, 85 miles >from Kiev, Ul'kha, 125 miles >from
Kiev, or Olyka, 207 miles >from Kiev. I read that Bessarabia included parts
of the Ukraine.

Does anyone know which town would most likely be part of Bessarabia at that
time, or has heard of Oulakhi? I found Genners searching Olyka in the
Discussion Group Archives, but no one searching Oulakhi.

Thank you very much.

Vivian Finkelstein
Chicago, Illinois
Vivian308@aol.com

Searching: CHATZANSKY changed to CHECANSKY or other variations, >from Kiev
PASSIMANIK changed to PASSMAN >from near Vilna, Lithuania
LEVIN >from Ludza (Lutsen), Latvia


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Lazovoye and Krivoy Rog #ukraine

Tammy
 

According to EIDB, some of my family came >from Krivoy Rog 47'55" 33'21" while other manifests stated they came >from Aleksandrovsk. >from what I understand Krivoy Rog is a shtetl within Aleksandrovsk, so some people were more specific about the place of origin than others.

My question comes in with the backs of some pictures that I was finally able to have translated. The pictures were taken in Lazovoye 47'41" 32'57". According to Shtetl Seeker, Lazovoye is 25 miles SW of Krivoy Rog. Is it likely that my ancestors would have traveled 25 miles to get their pictures taken during the early 1900's, or is it more likely that they actually lived in this smaller shtetl and used Krivoy Rog as their place of origin on the manifests?
Tammy Sarote
Tasu1@aol.com
New York


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Leiber #ukraine

Silverman, Bill <bsilverman@...>
 

My Hebrew name is Leibe, and I am named for my g-grandfather Leibe, from
Podolia in Russia (Ukraine). I assume this means beloved.
Bill Silverman
SILVERMAN SADOWSKY MUSHER NUN ALEXANDER LIPKOWITZ LIPSKI


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Where is Oulakhi, Bessarabia? #ukraine

Vivian308@...
 

Dear Genners,

I found a possible relative, Frida CHATZANSKY, on the EIDB. Her place of
birth is listed as Bessarabia, and the town as Oulakhi. The year she came
was 1923. My other Chatzansky's are >from Kiev, or somewhere near there; all
the records just say Kiev. I searched on ShtetlSeeker and found the most
promising choices to be Ol'khi, 85 miles >from Kiev, Ul'kha, 125 miles >from
Kiev, or Olyka, 207 miles >from Kiev. I read that Bessarabia included parts
of the Ukraine.

Does anyone know which town would most likely be part of Bessarabia at that
time, or has heard of Oulakhi? I found Genners searching Olyka in the
Discussion Group Archives, but no one searching Oulakhi.

Thank you very much.

Vivian Finkelstein
Chicago, Illinois
Vivian308@aol.com

Searching: CHATZANSKY changed to CHECANSKY or other variations, >from Kiev
PASSIMANIK changed to PASSMAN >from near Vilna, Lithuania
LEVIN >from Ludza (Lutsen), Latvia