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Berko #general

Avrohom Krauss <avkrauss@...>
 

"Berko" is a form of Ber, as in Dov-Ber. The "ko" Slavic suffix is similar
to "ki" or "ik" still in use- especially in Israel(as in "Shmulik" for
Shmuel or "Tzviki" for Tzvi. (It is not Baruch or Reuven). It does not come
from the surname "Berkowitz" but, rather, Berkowitz is a patronymic coming
from the personal name "Ber."

Avrohom Krauss
Telz-Stone Israel


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Berko #general

Avrohom Krauss <avkrauss@...>
 

"Berko" is a form of Ber, as in Dov-Ber. The "ko" Slavic suffix is similar
to "ki" or "ik" still in use- especially in Israel(as in "Shmulik" for
Shmuel or "Tzviki" for Tzvi. (It is not Baruch or Reuven). It does not come
from the surname "Berkowitz" but, rather, Berkowitz is a patronymic coming
from the personal name "Ber."

Avrohom Krauss
Telz-Stone Israel


KUPETZ/Poland and WILDMAN/Poland #general

HERMYN@...
 

This is a long shot, but aren't they all!
Ksiel KUPETZ of Zamosc, or Krasnabrod or Lublin vicinity.
Labish WILDMAN of the same Lublin vicinity probably. As far as I know, they
never made it out, but maybe their children did.

Thanks to all and a happy Thanksgiving/
Myndel Cohen (Denver, Co)
Hermyn@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen KUPETZ/Poland and WILDMAN/Poland #general

HERMYN@...
 

This is a long shot, but aren't they all!
Ksiel KUPETZ of Zamosc, or Krasnabrod or Lublin vicinity.
Labish WILDMAN of the same Lublin vicinity probably. As far as I know, they
never made it out, but maybe their children did.

Thanks to all and a happy Thanksgiving/
Myndel Cohen (Denver, Co)
Hermyn@aol.com


Re: Looking for documents #general

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
 

Have you tried JRI-PP which has indexed many, many existing Polish
records. Cemetery records in Poland are few and far between-check the
Mormon Index for your location or places like Yivo.

Also check Mariam Weiner's book Jewish Roots in Poland to see what is
known to exist for your town.

Sally Bruckheimer
Buffalo, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Looking for documents #general

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
 

Have you tried JRI-PP which has indexed many, many existing Polish
records. Cemetery records in Poland are few and far between-check the
Mormon Index for your location or places like Yivo.

Also check Mariam Weiner's book Jewish Roots in Poland to see what is
known to exist for your town.

Sally Bruckheimer
Buffalo, NY


Re: First name: Berko #general

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
 

A reader responded about the personal name Berko:
"What about it being a Kinui for Berkovitz and the person being called
that as a first name knickname?"

Berko and Berek are diminutives for the name Ber. In Slavic languages,
the diminutive is often shown with a -k. Similarly Moshe is sometimes
called Moshek or Moshko.
-ovitz and similar endings are patronymic endings meaning, in this case,
that the person's father was Berek. Berek's son Abraham would be called
Abraham ben Berek-in Russian Abraham Berkowitz. So Berko did not come
from Berkowitz but vice versa. In this case, a patronymic can give you
another generation-the Father. Sometimes, however a patronymic is taken
as an inherited family name, so you have to be careful Ber is usually Dov
in Hebrew, so Berko was probably known in schul as Dov, the two names mean
the same thing. Of course, it is possible that Ber could be something
entirely different in Hebrew since it is not a requirement that the names
be used together.
All these name problems are very common. I think there are probably
more name questions like this than any other topic in Jewishgen after
"Can you tell me about my ___ ancestors!"

Sally Bruckheimer
Buffalo, NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: First name: Berko #general

Sally Bruckheimer <sallybru@...>
 

A reader responded about the personal name Berko:
"What about it being a Kinui for Berkovitz and the person being called
that as a first name knickname?"

Berko and Berek are diminutives for the name Ber. In Slavic languages,
the diminutive is often shown with a -k. Similarly Moshe is sometimes
called Moshek or Moshko.
-ovitz and similar endings are patronymic endings meaning, in this case,
that the person's father was Berek. Berek's son Abraham would be called
Abraham ben Berek-in Russian Abraham Berkowitz. So Berko did not come
from Berkowitz but vice versa. In this case, a patronymic can give you
another generation-the Father. Sometimes, however a patronymic is taken
as an inherited family name, so you have to be careful Ber is usually Dov
in Hebrew, so Berko was probably known in schul as Dov, the two names mean
the same thing. Of course, it is possible that Ber could be something
entirely different in Hebrew since it is not a requirement that the names
be used together.
All these name problems are very common. I think there are probably
more name questions like this than any other topic in Jewishgen after
"Can you tell me about my ___ ancestors!"

Sally Bruckheimer
Buffalo, NY


Batya Unterschatz seriously ill #general

Gary Mokotoff <mokotoff@...>
 

Batya Unterschatz is seriously ill with a case of pancreatitis. Her friends
can send her flowers or greetings to Hadassah Hospital in Ein Karim
Jerusalem, 7th floor room 3.

Gary Mokotoff


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Batya Unterschatz seriously ill #general

Gary Mokotoff <mokotoff@...>
 

Batya Unterschatz is seriously ill with a case of pancreatitis. Her friends
can send her flowers or greetings to Hadassah Hospital in Ein Karim
Jerusalem, 7th floor room 3.

Gary Mokotoff


Re: Missing Pieces of the Puzzle #ukraine

Altefox@...
 

I noticed your listing of a Chernov. My father's family came >from a town
called Samgorodok near Kiev. I was curious if there is any relationship.
Len Chernos


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Missing Pieces of the Puzzle #ukraine

Altefox@...
 

I noticed your listing of a Chernov. My father's family came >from a town
called Samgorodok near Kiev. I was curious if there is any relationship.
Len Chernos


Re: Looking for Volunteers to help with Warszawa LDS Films Data entry #warsaw #poland

Hadassah Lipsius <kesher@...>
 

In response to Flora's questions.....


Did Miriam transcribe just the indexed years or has she created indices
for
those years where such indices do not exist?
Miriam doesn't even look at the index. She painstaking reviewed each
individual record and recorded the information. As anyone would know who
has looked at the Warszawa LDS films, the indexing is very poor. Sometimes
you will come upon an index but it only covers letters G-K. What happened
to the rest? Is it the fault of that 19th Century clerk or the 20th
Century microfilmer? I don't know the answer.



Among the names in Warsaw that I am primarily researching is
Bienenfeld; also Birnbaum and Gesundheit.
I assume that you have searched the JRI-Poland database for these names.
The surname GESUNDHEIT is the name of the Chief Rabbi of Warsaw. He was a
native of Warsaw and died in 1878.

Keep searching!


Hadassah Lipsius
Kew Gardens Hills, NY


Warszawa Research Group #Warsaw #Poland RE: Looking for Volunteers to help with Warszawa LDS Films Data entry #poland #warsaw

Hadassah Lipsius <kesher@...>
 

In response to Flora's questions.....


Did Miriam transcribe just the indexed years or has she created indices
for
those years where such indices do not exist?
Miriam doesn't even look at the index. She painstaking reviewed each
individual record and recorded the information. As anyone would know who
has looked at the Warszawa LDS films, the indexing is very poor. Sometimes
you will come upon an index but it only covers letters G-K. What happened
to the rest? Is it the fault of that 19th Century clerk or the 20th
Century microfilmer? I don't know the answer.



Among the names in Warsaw that I am primarily researching is
Bienenfeld; also Birnbaum and Gesundheit.
I assume that you have searched the JRI-Poland database for these names.
The surname GESUNDHEIT is the name of the Chief Rabbi of Warsaw. He was a
native of Warsaw and died in 1878.

Keep searching!


Hadassah Lipsius
Kew Gardens Hills, NY


Re: Courland #courland #latvia

joebein365@...
 

How do I get to the Courland sig home page?

Joe Bein

Los Angeles

Moderator Note:
http://www.jewishgen.org/Courland/


Re: Free map #belarus

Martha Lev-Zion <martha@...>
 

.
http://www.HistoricalAtlas.net.
You negelected to mention that this is valid only for Windows...

Martha in Israel who doesn't do Windows!


Latvia SIG #Latvia Re: Courland #latvia

joebein365@...
 

How do I get to the Courland sig home page?

Joe Bein

Los Angeles

Moderator Note:
http://www.jewishgen.org/Courland/


Latvia SIG #Latvia Re: Free map #latvia

Martha Lev-Zion <martha@...>
 

.
http://www.HistoricalAtlas.net.
You negelected to mention that this is valid only for Windows...

Martha in Israel who doesn't do Windows!


Russian Jewish databases #poland

Stan Wyll <stanw@...>
 

Does anyone have information on databases for Odessa & Kiev, Russia Jewish
ancestors...1870-1885? or earlier dates ?

I Would appreciate any information to help with this search......Looking
for ancestors with surnames:
Pinski
Yistronski

Thanks,
Stan Wyll


JRI Poland #Poland Russian Jewish databases #poland

Stan Wyll <stanw@...>
 

Does anyone have information on databases for Odessa & Kiev, Russia Jewish
ancestors...1870-1885? or earlier dates ?

I Would appreciate any information to help with this search......Looking
for ancestors with surnames:
Pinski
Yistronski

Thanks,
Stan Wyll