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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Need Help #ukraine

PALCE@...
 

My Bubbie and Zadie were born in Russia (Ukraine Province I'm pretty
sure). She in about 1867 and he in about 1869. These birth dateS could
be off by 2 years or so.

>from their gravestones in Hartford, CT I know that Zadie's Hebrew name
was Yehudah ben Jacob and Bubbie's was Sima bas Mordechai H'Cohain.
Mordechai used the last name "Wernick" (or Wernike), but that may be
anglicized. Zadie used Judah as his first name, Bubbie used Sophie (and
sometimes Sophia) as her first name and they used the last name
"Lutin".

I cannot find any direct record of the family's original name but I
found other Lutins who came >from Russia and anglicized their name >from
Leteschewsky/Letishewsky/Letishevsky/ Letichevsky to Lutin around the
turn of the century.

The Lutins in Hartford were all >from Kiev Province - they specifically
refer to two towns in draft cards and censuses: KONELA and STAVISHCHE.

>from the US Census records, my grandparents emigrated >from Argentina to
the US in 1902 or 1903 (depending on whether one goes by the 1910
Census tract or the 1920 tract). There were 5 children in the family
when they came to the US, all of whom are shown as having been born in
Argentina. However, The oldest child's death certificate shows that
Celia Lutin was born in Russia. Unfortunately, no one knows Celia's
Hebrew name and it isn't on her gravestone. And, of course we have no
record of Judah's marriage to Sima (Sophie). [Could there be a record
in old Jewish/Russian Archives?]

The 1910 US Census tract shows Celia as being 18 years old which means
that when the family came to America she was either 10 or 11 years old.
The next oldest child (Anita) was 6 or 7 years old when they came to
America and there were 3 more born during the 5 years after Anita was
born.

If we assume that Anita and the other 3 siblings indeed were born in
Argentina, it means that if in fact Celia was born in Russia she was
either 5 or 6 years old when the family came to Argentina.

There are some vague recollections that the family may have passed
through Sicily on their way >from Russia to Argentina, but those
recollections are based on stories told to some of my 1st and 2nd
cousins by Celia and may well have been embellished by her. In any
event, it looks like my grand parents spent at least 5 or more years in
Argentina which means that they arrived there in about 1896 and it
could have been as early as 1893.

Unfortunately, I can't find ship manifests >from Argentina (probably
Buenos Aires) to the US and also do not have any record of how Bubbie
and Zadie got out of the Ukraine let alone establish whether or not
they came through Sicily. However, if (in fact) Celia was born in the
Ukraine, they couldn't have left there before 1892.

I would appreciate ANY help you can give me to establish the town(s) in
the Ukraine >from which my Grandparents came and to learn if there is
any information that can substantiate their parents' yichus (other than
the 'ben and bas' on their gravestone.

THANKS in advance!

Phil Lutin:
e-mail: palce@...


Need Help #ukraine

PALCE@...
 

My Bubbie and Zadie were born in Russia (Ukraine Province I'm pretty
sure). She in about 1867 and he in about 1869. These birth dateS could
be off by 2 years or so.

>from their gravestones in Hartford, CT I know that Zadie's Hebrew name
was Yehudah ben Jacob and Bubbie's was Sima bas Mordechai H'Cohain.
Mordechai used the last name "Wernick" (or Wernike), but that may be
anglicized. Zadie used Judah as his first name, Bubbie used Sophie (and
sometimes Sophia) as her first name and they used the last name
"Lutin".

I cannot find any direct record of the family's original name but I
found other Lutins who came >from Russia and anglicized their name >from
Leteschewsky/Letishewsky/Letishevsky/ Letichevsky to Lutin around the
turn of the century.

The Lutins in Hartford were all >from Kiev Province - they specifically
refer to two towns in draft cards and censuses: KONELA and STAVISHCHE.

>from the US Census records, my grandparents emigrated >from Argentina to
the US in 1902 or 1903 (depending on whether one goes by the 1910
Census tract or the 1920 tract). There were 5 children in the family
when they came to the US, all of whom are shown as having been born in
Argentina. However, The oldest child's death certificate shows that
Celia Lutin was born in Russia. Unfortunately, no one knows Celia's
Hebrew name and it isn't on her gravestone. And, of course we have no
record of Judah's marriage to Sima (Sophie). [Could there be a record
in old Jewish/Russian Archives?]

The 1910 US Census tract shows Celia as being 18 years old which means
that when the family came to America she was either 10 or 11 years old.
The next oldest child (Anita) was 6 or 7 years old when they came to
America and there were 3 more born during the 5 years after Anita was
born.

If we assume that Anita and the other 3 siblings indeed were born in
Argentina, it means that if in fact Celia was born in Russia she was
either 5 or 6 years old when the family came to Argentina.

There are some vague recollections that the family may have passed
through Sicily on their way >from Russia to Argentina, but those
recollections are based on stories told to some of my 1st and 2nd
cousins by Celia and may well have been embellished by her. In any
event, it looks like my grand parents spent at least 5 or more years in
Argentina which means that they arrived there in about 1896 and it
could have been as early as 1893.

Unfortunately, I can't find ship manifests >from Argentina (probably
Buenos Aires) to the US and also do not have any record of how Bubbie
and Zadie got out of the Ukraine let alone establish whether or not
they came through Sicily. However, if (in fact) Celia was born in the
Ukraine, they couldn't have left there before 1892.

I would appreciate ANY help you can give me to establish the town(s) in
the Ukraine >from which my Grandparents came and to learn if there is
any information that can substantiate their parents' yichus (other than
the 'ben and bas' on their gravestone.

THANKS in advance!

Phil Lutin:
e-mail: palce@...


Latvia SIG #Latvia Death records. Liepaja. From: 1857 to 1859 #latvia

Christine Usdin
 


Death records. Liepaja. From: 1857 to 1859 #latvia

Christine Usdin
 


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica GRAVE search in JOHANNESBURG: Isaac Baruch Hoffman/Owseiowitz #southafrica

guyleslie@...
 

Dear Genners,
I need help finding the gravestone or grave-record of my GGGrandfather in
Johannesburg, South Africa.
His name was Isaac Baruch HOFFMAN (or OWSEIOWITZ/OVSEYIOVICH if buried
under his pre-immigration name). His Hebrew name should be Itsak Baruch ben
Azrael.
He immigrated to Johannesburg >from Silale, Lithuania in 1889, one of the
first Jews on the Johannesburg gold reef. He died just 4 months after
arrival of dysentery (hence 1889 or 1890).
He is supposedly buried in the "27th grave in earliest Johannesburg Jewish
cemetary".
Any help appreciated.
Regards,
Donald Press
New York

Searching: PRESS/PRES (Seda/Plunge, Lithuania & South Africa); HOFFMAN
(South Africa & USA); OWSEOWITZ (Silale & South Africa); BRUKH (Plunge,
Lith.); MILNER (Silale); HART (London); DAVIDS (Amsterdam, London); BERMAN
(Siauliai); LIPSCHITZ (Pumpanai); PRESS/SILVERSTONE (Manchester/Liverpool)


GRAVE search in JOHANNESBURG: Isaac Baruch Hoffman/Owseiowitz #southafrica

guyleslie@...
 

Dear Genners,
I need help finding the gravestone or grave-record of my GGGrandfather in
Johannesburg, South Africa.
His name was Isaac Baruch HOFFMAN (or OWSEIOWITZ/OVSEYIOVICH if buried
under his pre-immigration name). His Hebrew name should be Itsak Baruch ben
Azrael.
He immigrated to Johannesburg >from Silale, Lithuania in 1889, one of the
first Jews on the Johannesburg gold reef. He died just 4 months after
arrival of dysentery (hence 1889 or 1890).
He is supposedly buried in the "27th grave in earliest Johannesburg Jewish
cemetary".
Any help appreciated.
Regards,
Donald Press
New York

Searching: PRESS/PRES (Seda/Plunge, Lithuania & South Africa); HOFFMAN
(South Africa & USA); OWSEOWITZ (Silale & South Africa); BRUKH (Plunge,
Lith.); MILNER (Silale); HART (London); DAVIDS (Amsterdam, London); BERMAN
(Siauliai); LIPSCHITZ (Pumpanai); PRESS/SILVERSTONE (Manchester/Liverpool)


Latvia SIG #Latvia Re: New tool for finding births, deaths, divorces, marriages, etc., in Latvia #latvia

Christine Usdin
 

Hi Stephen,
You made a great job, but I am not sure, that it will help people to find
the original records on Raduraksti.
You will not believe how many mails I receive to have the original record...
According to your site, you link only on the first page on Raduraksti and
the researchers dont know where to go...
And , even if they find the page, everything is written in Russian or Hebrew
and sometimes only in German.
Sorry for my English....but I am french.

Christine Usdin
France

----- Original Message -----

From: Stephen Weinstein <stephenweinstein@...>
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2010 22:03:45 -0700 (PDT)

I was having trouble navigating Raduraksti to find the pages that
corresponded to records in Christine Usdin's webpages, especially
when Raduraksti had things misidentified.

I put together a database that lets you select what you know (place,
type of record, year, etc.), and leave the rest blank. It tells you
which pages on each website (Raduraksti and three of Christine's
websites) have records corresponding to what you entered, and which
pages on each site correspond to each other....


Re: New tool for finding births, deaths, divorces, marriages, etc., in Latvia #latvia

Christine Usdin
 

Hi Stephen,
You made a great job, but I am not sure, that it will help people to find
the original records on Raduraksti.
You will not believe how many mails I receive to have the original record...
According to your site, you link only on the first page on Raduraksti and
the researchers dont know where to go...
And , even if they find the page, everything is written in Russian or Hebrew
and sometimes only in German.
Sorry for my English....but I am french.

Christine Usdin
France

----- Original Message -----

From: Stephen Weinstein <stephenweinstein@...>
Date: Sat, 23 Oct 2010 22:03:45 -0700 (PDT)

I was having trouble navigating Raduraksti to find the pages that
corresponded to records in Christine Usdin's webpages, especially
when Raduraksti had things misidentified.

I put together a database that lets you select what you know (place,
type of record, year, etc.), and leave the rest blank. It tells you
which pages on each website (Raduraksti and three of Christine's
websites) have records corresponding to what you entered, and which
pages on each site correspond to each other....


Latvia SIG #Latvia Death records. Liepaja. From: 1860 to 1862 #latvia

Christine Usdin
 


Death records. Liepaja. From: 1860 to 1862 #latvia

Christine Usdin
 


NY's Montefiore Cemeteries: Two New Searchable Databases Now Available #general

Steven Lasky <steve725@...>
 

It seems that the organization that runs Montefiore Cemetery (St.
Albans/Springfield Gardens, Queens County, NY) has redone their website
which now includes a searchable database. It has done the same for its
sister cemetery, New Montefiore Cemetery in Pinelawn, Suffolk County, NY.
Just use the links below and click on the "Locator" link at the top of the
page to begin searching. Combined there are more than 280,000 burials in
these two cemeteries. So now there are close to a million records that are
available through all the searchable New York/New Jersey cemeteries, which
include Mt. Moriah and Riverside Cemeteries in New Jersey, and in the New
York area, in Queens County, Mts. Ararat, Carmel, Hebron, Judah, Lebanon,
Zion, Knollwood Park, Union Field.

The searchable fields for the Montefiore databases include first name and
last name, month and year of death. The search results include first name,
last name, age and date of death, grave location and society name.

Here are the links:
Montefiore Cemetery:
www.montefiores.com/Montefiore/jewish-cemeteries-new-york/index.html
New Montefiore Cemetery:
www.montefiores.com/newMontefiore/jewish-cemeteries-new-york/index.html

It should be noted that the folks who run these two cemeteries are not
affiliated with the group who created the other six or seven Queens, NY
cemetery databases, so the form of the cemetery databases are different.
Happy hunting!

Regards,
Steven Lasky
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com
blog: http://museumoffamilyhistory.blogspot.com
steve@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen NY's Montefiore Cemeteries: Two New Searchable Databases Now Available #general

Steven Lasky <steve725@...>
 

It seems that the organization that runs Montefiore Cemetery (St.
Albans/Springfield Gardens, Queens County, NY) has redone their website
which now includes a searchable database. It has done the same for its
sister cemetery, New Montefiore Cemetery in Pinelawn, Suffolk County, NY.
Just use the links below and click on the "Locator" link at the top of the
page to begin searching. Combined there are more than 280,000 burials in
these two cemeteries. So now there are close to a million records that are
available through all the searchable New York/New Jersey cemeteries, which
include Mt. Moriah and Riverside Cemeteries in New Jersey, and in the New
York area, in Queens County, Mts. Ararat, Carmel, Hebron, Judah, Lebanon,
Zion, Knollwood Park, Union Field.

The searchable fields for the Montefiore databases include first name and
last name, month and year of death. The search results include first name,
last name, age and date of death, grave location and society name.

Here are the links:
Montefiore Cemetery:
www.montefiores.com/Montefiore/jewish-cemeteries-new-york/index.html
New Montefiore Cemetery:
www.montefiores.com/newMontefiore/jewish-cemeteries-new-york/index.html

It should be noted that the folks who run these two cemeteries are not
affiliated with the group who created the other six or seven Queens, NY
cemetery databases, so the form of the cemetery databases are different.
Happy hunting!

Regards,
Steven Lasky
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com
blog: http://museumoffamilyhistory.blogspot.com
steve@...


Where is a village in Bas-Rhin ? #france

pierre28@...
 

In the marriage certificate (24-Oct-1836) >from Lauterbourg Bas-Rhin
(the most NE village in France), of Salomon HALFF and Rachel FEILBMANN
(available on line # 25 in 1836) Rachel and her parents are said to be
from "?ultzheim" (with 2 dots above the u) and an unrecognizable
initial letter Bas-Rhin.

Can anyone guess and locate such a village.

Pierre M Hahn, San Francisco
pierre28@... or
pierre1928@...


French SIG #France Where is a village in Bas-Rhin ? #france

pierre28@...
 

In the marriage certificate (24-Oct-1836) >from Lauterbourg Bas-Rhin
(the most NE village in France), of Salomon HALFF and Rachel FEILBMANN
(available on line # 25 in 1836) Rachel and her parents are said to be
from "?ultzheim" (with 2 dots above the u) and an unrecognizable
initial letter Bas-Rhin.

Can anyone guess and locate such a village.

Pierre M Hahn, San Francisco
pierre28@... or
pierre1928@...


searching pre-1837 records on the internet #unitedkingdom

helentv@...
 

Greetings to UK Genners >from Adelaide South Australia >from Helen
Tversky-Steiner ID 11392

I have researched and written about many ancestors. I would like to be
certain of detail of one gr/gr/grandfather and living far >from London need
access on the internet.

I seek the data of the parents of JACOB SOLOMON /Yitzhak I think. Jacob was
born 1795 in London and died 3 Jany. 1874 in his 80th year. He lived at 7
Harrow Alley, Houndsditch. His children were Abraham Jacob Solomon who with
his wife Julia/Isaacs came to Adelaide 1849. (no Suez Canal and it would
seem provided their own food for the sea travel of more than three months).
Philip b. 1829, the second child of Jacob and Mari remained in the UK.
Jacob Solomon/s was interred in West Ham Cemetery SE 32-14. Mr. Charles
Tucker helped with my early research so that it would be really correct.

If internet access on pre-1837 data is not available, I would like to be
approached by a professional genealogists conversant with early research.
Please contact me at helentv@...
SOLOMON/ISAACS - London to Ausralia 1849 (where he took the first service at
the Adelaide Hebrew Congregation in 1852)
SAUNDERS - Czestochowa, London, Australia in 1855, Jerusalem died 1895.
WILNER-MILBE, SHEIKLE-NASKITEL/COHEN, LEVIE in 1811 Holland,, JACOBS,
SAUNDERS London, Australia.
LIPERT - Minsk, Scotland,, Australia
TVERSKY - Gancesci/Bessarabia, Kishinev, Palestine, Alexandria, Adelaide.
This breadth of Jewish ancestry is very special in Australia. - Helen
Tversky-Steiner.


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom searching pre-1837 records on the internet #unitedkingdom

helentv@...
 

Greetings to UK Genners >from Adelaide South Australia >from Helen
Tversky-Steiner ID 11392

I have researched and written about many ancestors. I would like to be
certain of detail of one gr/gr/grandfather and living far >from London need
access on the internet.

I seek the data of the parents of JACOB SOLOMON /Yitzhak I think. Jacob was
born 1795 in London and died 3 Jany. 1874 in his 80th year. He lived at 7
Harrow Alley, Houndsditch. His children were Abraham Jacob Solomon who with
his wife Julia/Isaacs came to Adelaide 1849. (no Suez Canal and it would
seem provided their own food for the sea travel of more than three months).
Philip b. 1829, the second child of Jacob and Mari remained in the UK.
Jacob Solomon/s was interred in West Ham Cemetery SE 32-14. Mr. Charles
Tucker helped with my early research so that it would be really correct.

If internet access on pre-1837 data is not available, I would like to be
approached by a professional genealogists conversant with early research.
Please contact me at helentv@...
SOLOMON/ISAACS - London to Ausralia 1849 (where he took the first service at
the Adelaide Hebrew Congregation in 1852)
SAUNDERS - Czestochowa, London, Australia in 1855, Jerusalem died 1895.
WILNER-MILBE, SHEIKLE-NASKITEL/COHEN, LEVIE in 1811 Holland,, JACOBS,
SAUNDERS London, Australia.
LIPERT - Minsk, Scotland,, Australia
TVERSKY - Gancesci/Bessarabia, Kishinev, Palestine, Alexandria, Adelaide.
This breadth of Jewish ancestry is very special in Australia. - Helen
Tversky-Steiner.


JRI Poland #Poland Translation help requested re: Lodz PSA instructions #poland

Sandra Nudelman <sandranudelman@...>
 

I just received an email back >from the Lodz archive and need help
translating the instructions.

Link: http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=17042

Please respond to me at
sandranudelman@... Thanks in advance!

Sandra Nudelman


Translation help requested re: Lodz PSA instructions #poland

Sandra Nudelman <sandranudelman@...>
 

I just received an email back >from the Lodz archive and need help
translating the instructions.

Link: http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=17042

Please respond to me at
sandranudelman@... Thanks in advance!

Sandra Nudelman


JRI Poland #Poland Census Data Trans Help #poland

Alan Weiser <alanboy@...>
 

Help is needed for translation of the sentence below taken >from a
Galicia 1900 Census Report. Please reply directly.

Razem gminy i obszary doworskie powiatu sadowego Kolomyja.

Thanks
Alan Weiser
alanboy@...
Silver Spring, MD USA


Census Data Trans Help #poland

Alan Weiser <alanboy@...>
 

Help is needed for translation of the sentence below taken >from a
Galicia 1900 Census Report. Please reply directly.

Razem gminy i obszary doworskie powiatu sadowego Kolomyja.

Thanks
Alan Weiser
alanboy@...
Silver Spring, MD USA