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Zaslav #ukraine

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

Hi,

I would like to speak with anyone whose family was from
Zaslav/Zaslaw/Zaslavl/Iyzaslav in the Ukraine, and especially to the
SILBERMAN/SILVERMAN/ZILBERMAN families that came >from there.

I am pleased to see two Ukraine SIG writers in one day interested in Zaslav!
Here are three Zaslav lists that might be helpful:

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/Ukraine/1800s.html
http://www.kazez.com/~dan/Zaslav/Records.html

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/zaslav-cem/Izy.html

Dan Kazez
Springfield, Ohio USA
Ukraine: OBERMAN-HOBERMAN-GUBERMAN, LIS-LYS, SOBEL, STEIN, AKSMAN-AXMAN
http://www.kazez.com/~dan/Lis-Liss.html
http://www.kazez.com/~dan/guberman-lis.html


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Zaslav #ukraine

Daniel Kazez <dkazez@...>
 

Hi,

I would like to speak with anyone whose family was from
Zaslav/Zaslaw/Zaslavl/Iyzaslav in the Ukraine, and especially to the
SILBERMAN/SILVERMAN/ZILBERMAN families that came >from there.

I am pleased to see two Ukraine SIG writers in one day interested in Zaslav!
Here are three Zaslav lists that might be helpful:

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/Ukraine/1800s.html
http://www.kazez.com/~dan/Zaslav/Records.html

http://www.kazez.com/~dan/zaslav-cem/Izy.html

Dan Kazez
Springfield, Ohio USA
Ukraine: OBERMAN-HOBERMAN-GUBERMAN, LIS-LYS, SOBEL, STEIN, AKSMAN-AXMAN
http://www.kazez.com/~dan/Lis-Liss.html
http://www.kazez.com/~dan/guberman-lis.html


Corrected Viewmate links to 1892 Snitkov Tax List - Request Translation #ukraine

Michelle Frager <lulu_brooks@...>
 

Apologies for the bad links in the original post. Below are the links
to the two halves in Russian or Ukrainian for which I am asking
transliterations and translations, not only for the names but the
headings too.

There's some transliteration of the names already attempted.

[And, again, if anyone knows what the income period would have been
as the numbers seem infinitesmal, and whether the list is comparing
two periods given the double numbers in one column, that would be
greatly appreciated.]

Headings and first six names with their info:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=2927

Last five names with their info:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=2928

Thanks once more. Please reply privately to:
Michelle Frager lulu_brooks@yahoo.com


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Corrected Viewmate links to 1892 Snitkov Tax List - Request Translation #ukraine

Michelle Frager <lulu_brooks@...>
 

Apologies for the bad links in the original post. Below are the links
to the two halves in Russian or Ukrainian for which I am asking
transliterations and translations, not only for the names but the
headings too.

There's some transliteration of the names already attempted.

[And, again, if anyone knows what the income period would have been
as the numbers seem infinitesmal, and whether the list is comparing
two periods given the double numbers in one column, that would be
greatly appreciated.]

Headings and first six names with their info:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=2927

Last five names with their info:
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=2928

Thanks once more. Please reply privately to:
Michelle Frager lulu_brooks@yahoo.com


Re: Searching for SILBERMAN, SILVERMAN,ZIMMERGUS and others #ukraine

NFatouros@...
 

In a message dated 10/1/03 Barbara Klein Meyers ( BABYCAT3@aol.com) wrote in
part:

<< I am researching the following surnames >from Krasilov, Vilener(?)

gubernia, also >from Kolchin and Minsk. I believe the country was Russia as

noted by my antecedents:

SILBERMAN, SILVERMAN, ZIMMERGUS, INGERMAN, YOUNGSMAN, PARMET>>>

I cannnot help with Ms Meyers' surnames but suggest that if she has not
alerady done so, she should enter them in Jewishgen's Family Finder and have a
look there to see who else might have a connection to the same names. Last
August Joyce Norris Chartor who had asked about a Krasilov resident was told by
Hillel Bick to write to a Mary Jo Martin who maintains a Krasilov website and
database. I tried finding this website today but could not, unless I overlooked
noting her name on some I did find.

As for Krasilov, there is a map showing its location at:

http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/fam/city/Ob-cit.html

At: http://www.jewishgen.org/cemetery/e-europe/ukra-kr.html

Ms. Meyers can read about Krasilov's cemetery and mention of the Regional
State archives of the Vinnitskaya oblast which may have have records.

At: http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Volochisk/FurstStory.html

I read a text about a trip to Volochisk which mentioned in passing that the
text's authors, Bobby Furst and Joan Adler's had spent a night in Krasilov. So
Ms. Meyers may want to write to them to learn what impressions they may have
had of Krasilov during their brief stay and subsquent visit to Krasilov which
they describe at:

http://www.jewishgen.org/Ukraine/Stories/past_part_2.htm

At: http://www.torah.org/learning/hamaayan/5760/shemos.html

I read that

R' Baruch Yosef Sack z"l was born in Krasilov, Volhynia (northeastern
Ukraine) in 1887. His father was the chassidic rebbe of Krasilov, a part of the
Zlotchover dynasty.

At: http://www.jewishgen.org/Ukraine/Volhynia/towns/populations.htm

Ms Meyers can see that circa 1897 the population of Krasilov was 6,994, of
which the Jewish population was 2,563, or #7 per cent.
Krasilov 6,994 2,563 37%

At:
http://www.jewishgen.org/Ukraine/Photo_Album/Footsteps/Ukraine_Trip/Krasiliv/Krasiliv.html

there are a few photographs of Krasilov (which I did not find especially
interesting)

A couple of other websites indicate that there is sugar manufacturing in
Krasilov

As to the location of Krasilov my old Columbia-Lippincott Gazetteer says it
is located in central Kamenets-Podolski oblast, in the Ukraine, and that it was
known for sugar refining and metalworking. In 1926 it had a population of
4,625. If Ms Meyers antecedents noted that Krasilov was in Russia this was
because the Ukraine was part of Russia. and it wasn't until 1946, when it was
admitted to the United Nations that it was considered an independent country.

Note that those records in the Kamenets Podolski archives which were saved
from the great fire some months ago won't be available for at least another
year. When the records have been restored they will be sent to the Khmelnitsky
Oblast archives for safe-keeping.


Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa,St. Petersburg and
Berdichev;ROTHSTEIN, Kremenchug; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets; LEVY,
WEIL, Mulhouse; SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Podwolochisk,
Berdichev; BEHAM, Salok and Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Searching for SILBERMAN, SILVERMAN,ZIMMERGUS and others #ukraine

NFatouros@...
 

In a message dated 10/1/03 Barbara Klein Meyers ( BABYCAT3@aol.com) wrote in
part:

<< I am researching the following surnames >from Krasilov, Vilener(?)

gubernia, also >from Kolchin and Minsk. I believe the country was Russia as

noted by my antecedents:

SILBERMAN, SILVERMAN, ZIMMERGUS, INGERMAN, YOUNGSMAN, PARMET>>>

I cannnot help with Ms Meyers' surnames but suggest that if she has not
alerady done so, she should enter them in Jewishgen's Family Finder and have a
look there to see who else might have a connection to the same names. Last
August Joyce Norris Chartor who had asked about a Krasilov resident was told by
Hillel Bick to write to a Mary Jo Martin who maintains a Krasilov website and
database. I tried finding this website today but could not, unless I overlooked
noting her name on some I did find.

As for Krasilov, there is a map showing its location at:

http://userpages.wittenberg.edu/dkazez/fam/city/Ob-cit.html

At: http://www.jewishgen.org/cemetery/e-europe/ukra-kr.html

Ms. Meyers can read about Krasilov's cemetery and mention of the Regional
State archives of the Vinnitskaya oblast which may have have records.

At: http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Volochisk/FurstStory.html

I read a text about a trip to Volochisk which mentioned in passing that the
text's authors, Bobby Furst and Joan Adler's had spent a night in Krasilov. So
Ms. Meyers may want to write to them to learn what impressions they may have
had of Krasilov during their brief stay and subsquent visit to Krasilov which
they describe at:

http://www.jewishgen.org/Ukraine/Stories/past_part_2.htm

At: http://www.torah.org/learning/hamaayan/5760/shemos.html

I read that

R' Baruch Yosef Sack z"l was born in Krasilov, Volhynia (northeastern
Ukraine) in 1887. His father was the chassidic rebbe of Krasilov, a part of the
Zlotchover dynasty.

At: http://www.jewishgen.org/Ukraine/Volhynia/towns/populations.htm

Ms Meyers can see that circa 1897 the population of Krasilov was 6,994, of
which the Jewish population was 2,563, or #7 per cent.
Krasilov 6,994 2,563 37%

At:
http://www.jewishgen.org/Ukraine/Photo_Album/Footsteps/Ukraine_Trip/Krasiliv/Krasiliv.html

there are a few photographs of Krasilov (which I did not find especially
interesting)

A couple of other websites indicate that there is sugar manufacturing in
Krasilov

As to the location of Krasilov my old Columbia-Lippincott Gazetteer says it
is located in central Kamenets-Podolski oblast, in the Ukraine, and that it was
known for sugar refining and metalworking. In 1926 it had a population of
4,625. If Ms Meyers antecedents noted that Krasilov was in Russia this was
because the Ukraine was part of Russia. and it wasn't until 1946, when it was
admitted to the United Nations that it was considered an independent country.

Note that those records in the Kamenets Podolski archives which were saved
from the great fire some months ago won't be available for at least another
year. When the records have been restored they will be sent to the Khmelnitsky
Oblast archives for safe-keeping.


Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa,St. Petersburg and
Berdichev;ROTHSTEIN, Kremenchug; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets; LEVY,
WEIL, Mulhouse; SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Podwolochisk,
Berdichev; BEHAM, Salok and Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.


Orenbuch/ Gorenbuch/ or Horenbuch #ukraine

penina <penina@...>
 

I am looking for my father's family Orenbuch (or Gorenbuch or Horenbuch
or similar) >from Kinyev, which I gather was a small town near Kiev. My
father married and moved to Olesk in Galicia. He arrived in New York around 1914. Any information would be appreciated. Penina Nerenberg


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Orenbuch/ Gorenbuch/ or Horenbuch #ukraine

penina <penina@...>
 

I am looking for my father's family Orenbuch (or Gorenbuch or Horenbuch
or similar) >from Kinyev, which I gather was a small town near Kiev. My
father married and moved to Olesk in Galicia. He arrived in New York around 1914. Any information would be appreciated. Penina Nerenberg


Re: Searching Townspeople from KATERINOPOL / KALNIBOLOTO #ukraine

NFatouros@...
 

In a message dated 9/23/03 8:37:37 PM, Muni Oster (osterfamily@comcast.net)
wrote in part:

<< am researching any townspeople who lived in KATERNOPOL (also
known as KALNIBOLOTO) which is a shtetl / town about 112 miles South of
Kiev. My family left around 1920 (my understanding is that most of the
Jews were killed or forced out by pogroms around the same time)

Any information would be much appreciated. I want to know know more about
the history of the town and locate any photographs.
>>

My old Columbia-Lippincott Gazetteer has an entry for "Katerinopol," or
"Yekaterinpol." The entry doesn't note its former name as "Kalniboloto." In 1926
had a population of 7,567. Known for its metalworks, it is located in the south
Kiev oblast, 37 miles east northeast of Uman.

In addition, my older edition of "Where We Once Walked" says that
Katerinopol is that it had a pre-WWII Jewish population of 1,759. Although this edition
has no separate entry for Kalniboloto, under its Katerinopol entry, it does
note the alternative names "Kalniboloto" and "Piaterota." And it does have a
listing for "Piaterota" which refers to its entry for Ekaterinopol.

My typing in "Katerinopol" in the "google" search engine brought up a page of
pictures taken on a trip to Katerinopol, but all they show are someone's
family members, and a very few show trees and bushes which can be seen almost
anywhere in the world. "Google" couldn't find anything for "Piaterota" but it did
produce a map showing Kalniboloto's location.

I wondered whether Mr. Oster got his surname >from Oster City in the Kyiv
(Kiev) Oblast, but I found an old message of Mr. Oster's which said his family had
changed their surname >from OSTROVSKY which may reflect their origin in the
town of the Ostrov which is located in the province of Kiev.
(There are many towns named Ostrov scattered about Eastern Europe, as I
observed in one of my old responses.)


Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa,St. Petersburg and
Berdichev;ROTHSTEIN, Kremenchug; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets; LEVY,
WEIL, Mulhouse; SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Podwolochisk,
Berdichev; BEHAM, Salok and Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Searching Townspeople from KATERINOPOL / KALNIBOLOTO #ukraine

NFatouros@...
 

In a message dated 9/23/03 8:37:37 PM, Muni Oster (osterfamily@comcast.net)
wrote in part:

<< am researching any townspeople who lived in KATERNOPOL (also
known as KALNIBOLOTO) which is a shtetl / town about 112 miles South of
Kiev. My family left around 1920 (my understanding is that most of the
Jews were killed or forced out by pogroms around the same time)

Any information would be much appreciated. I want to know know more about
the history of the town and locate any photographs.
>>

My old Columbia-Lippincott Gazetteer has an entry for "Katerinopol," or
"Yekaterinpol." The entry doesn't note its former name as "Kalniboloto." In 1926
had a population of 7,567. Known for its metalworks, it is located in the south
Kiev oblast, 37 miles east northeast of Uman.

In addition, my older edition of "Where We Once Walked" says that
Katerinopol is that it had a pre-WWII Jewish population of 1,759. Although this edition
has no separate entry for Kalniboloto, under its Katerinopol entry, it does
note the alternative names "Kalniboloto" and "Piaterota." And it does have a
listing for "Piaterota" which refers to its entry for Ekaterinopol.

My typing in "Katerinopol" in the "google" search engine brought up a page of
pictures taken on a trip to Katerinopol, but all they show are someone's
family members, and a very few show trees and bushes which can be seen almost
anywhere in the world. "Google" couldn't find anything for "Piaterota" but it did
produce a map showing Kalniboloto's location.

I wondered whether Mr. Oster got his surname >from Oster City in the Kyiv
(Kiev) Oblast, but I found an old message of Mr. Oster's which said his family had
changed their surname >from OSTROVSKY which may reflect their origin in the
town of the Ostrov which is located in the province of Kiev.
(There are many towns named Ostrov scattered about Eastern Europe, as I
observed in one of my old responses.)


Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa,St. Petersburg and
Berdichev;ROTHSTEIN, Kremenchug; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets; LEVY,
WEIL, Mulhouse; SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Podwolochisk,
Berdichev; BEHAM, Salok and Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.


my genealogy in the web #ukraine

Pavel Bernshtam <pavelb@...>
 

Hi!

I have posted the very first version of my genealogy to the Web.
It contains all the listed people with only birth/death date place
without life events and family stories for only 2 families in Russian
(not translated yet).

http://javax.netfirms.com/genealogy/

I hope that this web site will help me to find more information and
intersections with other genealogy trees.

In the future I'll add english translations to the most interesting
family stories and more information.

The list of all surnames in my records (not just my direct ascendants)
is below:
ALPERIN , ALTERMAN , ALTSHULER , BENIN , BENIOMINSON , BERDICHEVSKY ,
BERLIN , BERNSHTAM , BEZDEZHENSKY , BLOKH , CHERVIN , DERES ,
DIKENSHTEIN , DUBINSKY , DUBOV , EIDERMAN , ETKIN , FEDOROV , FELDMAN ,
FIKSMAN , FRIDMAN , GALLINSON , GENIS , GINODMAN , GITELMAN , GLOBUS ,
GOLDENBERG , GOLGENBERG , GRITSOVSKY , GUSAROV , HERSHKOVICH , ITKIN ,
KAGANOVICH , KANEVSKY , KANTOR , KARASIK , KELMAN , KODEL , KOFMAN ,
KORZHENEVICH , KRASOVSKY , KRESLAVSKY , LAMDAN , LAMDIN , LEIDERMAN ,
LEITES , LITVAK , LIVSHITZ , LOGINOV , LYUBOMIRSKY , MARKOVICH , MENAKER
, MIRONCHUK , MOSKOVSKY , NEZLIN , NOVOFASTOVSKY , NUGER , OBRANT ,
OVTRAHT , PALIEV , POLYAKOV , PORTNOV , PRISKER , RABINOVICH , RAICYN ,
RATNER , RODOMYSLESKAYA , ROMANOVSKY , ROZENBERG , ROZENBLAT , ROZENBOIM
, SAVIN , SEGAL , SHEININ , SHERBAK , SHPILBERG , SHUSTAROVICH ,
SKRASTIN , SLUTSKY , SONKINA , SON'KINA , SUDAKOVICH , SURKIS ,
TETELBAUM , TOMSHINSKY , TRAHTENBERG , TSYGUTKIN , VALITSKY , VASSERMAN
, VERESHAGIN , VIRIH , VOLPIN , ZHURAHOV , ZHURAKHOV , ZISKIN ,
ZLOCHISTY , ZUSMAN

===================
Searching for:
ITKIN - Kolyshki, Vitebsk gubernia; Kharkov / BENIOMENSON - Khislavichi
(Mstislav gubernia), Kharkov / BERNSHTAM - Akimovka (Melitopol oblast),
Melitopol, Povolzh'e / ALTSHULER - Priazovskoe (Pokrovka)(Melitopol
oblast) , Melitopol, Chausy (Mogilev gubernia) / KANTOR - Polonnoe
(Volyn gubernia), Baranovka (Volyn gubernia), Zhitomir / LAMDAN, LAMDIN-
Mlinov ZHURAHOV, ZURAHOV - Chervonnoe (Skvir uyezd, Kiev gubernia), Verbovo

Pavel Bernshtam
email: pavelb@identify.com
web: http://www.identify.com


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine my genealogy in the web #ukraine

Pavel Bernshtam <pavelb@...>
 

Hi!

I have posted the very first version of my genealogy to the Web.
It contains all the listed people with only birth/death date place
without life events and family stories for only 2 families in Russian
(not translated yet).

http://javax.netfirms.com/genealogy/

I hope that this web site will help me to find more information and
intersections with other genealogy trees.

In the future I'll add english translations to the most interesting
family stories and more information.

The list of all surnames in my records (not just my direct ascendants)
is below:
ALPERIN , ALTERMAN , ALTSHULER , BENIN , BENIOMINSON , BERDICHEVSKY ,
BERLIN , BERNSHTAM , BEZDEZHENSKY , BLOKH , CHERVIN , DERES ,
DIKENSHTEIN , DUBINSKY , DUBOV , EIDERMAN , ETKIN , FEDOROV , FELDMAN ,
FIKSMAN , FRIDMAN , GALLINSON , GENIS , GINODMAN , GITELMAN , GLOBUS ,
GOLDENBERG , GOLGENBERG , GRITSOVSKY , GUSAROV , HERSHKOVICH , ITKIN ,
KAGANOVICH , KANEVSKY , KANTOR , KARASIK , KELMAN , KODEL , KOFMAN ,
KORZHENEVICH , KRASOVSKY , KRESLAVSKY , LAMDAN , LAMDIN , LEIDERMAN ,
LEITES , LITVAK , LIVSHITZ , LOGINOV , LYUBOMIRSKY , MARKOVICH , MENAKER
, MIRONCHUK , MOSKOVSKY , NEZLIN , NOVOFASTOVSKY , NUGER , OBRANT ,
OVTRAHT , PALIEV , POLYAKOV , PORTNOV , PRISKER , RABINOVICH , RAICYN ,
RATNER , RODOMYSLESKAYA , ROMANOVSKY , ROZENBERG , ROZENBLAT , ROZENBOIM
, SAVIN , SEGAL , SHEININ , SHERBAK , SHPILBERG , SHUSTAROVICH ,
SKRASTIN , SLUTSKY , SONKINA , SON'KINA , SUDAKOVICH , SURKIS ,
TETELBAUM , TOMSHINSKY , TRAHTENBERG , TSYGUTKIN , VALITSKY , VASSERMAN
, VERESHAGIN , VIRIH , VOLPIN , ZHURAHOV , ZHURAKHOV , ZISKIN ,
ZLOCHISTY , ZUSMAN

===================
Searching for:
ITKIN - Kolyshki, Vitebsk gubernia; Kharkov / BENIOMENSON - Khislavichi
(Mstislav gubernia), Kharkov / BERNSHTAM - Akimovka (Melitopol oblast),
Melitopol, Povolzh'e / ALTSHULER - Priazovskoe (Pokrovka)(Melitopol
oblast) , Melitopol, Chausy (Mogilev gubernia) / KANTOR - Polonnoe
(Volyn gubernia), Baranovka (Volyn gubernia), Zhitomir / LAMDAN, LAMDIN-
Mlinov ZHURAHOV, ZURAHOV - Chervonnoe (Skvir uyezd, Kiev gubernia), Verbovo

Pavel Bernshtam
email: pavelb@identify.com
web: http://www.identify.com


Re: Ostrozec #ukraine

NFatouros@...
 

In a message dated 10/1/03 9:26:21 PM, David.M.Simon@gems9.gov.bc.ca writes:

<< My mother in law has applied for some sort of compensation or pension based

on her having being in a ghetto or in an area that was persecuted by the

Germans (I am not sure which). She was living in Ostrozec, a "town" that

was in Poland prior to the war, then Russia then the Ukraine. Her

application was rejected as they had no record of any "action" in that

area. She says the Germans basically got the local Polish/Ukrainian boys

to do their dirty work.


Has anyone heard of this town or the area ? Or know of where I might find

some information about it ?

>>

A quick google search turned up the information that the SS murdered 900 Jews
of "Ostrozec, Volhynia." See:

http://members.tripod.com/~ebionite/zikkar.htm

Another URL that appeared for Ostrozec was:

http://www.jewishgen.org/cemetery/e-europe/ukra-o.html

which indicated that Ostrozec or "Ostrozhets" is located 50 kilometers >from
Rovno and 16 kilometers >from Lutzk.

Chester G. Cohen's "Shtetl Finder Gazetteer" says that Ostrozhets is
northeast of Lvov and 15 kilometers north of "Malinov" ( or Mlynow), and that in 1897
the census reported its Jewish population as consisting of 636 Jews.

"Where We Once Walked" gives the map coordinates for Ostrozhets in the
Ukraine, 50 kilometers west of Rovno, as 50'40/15'33.

According to my "google" search "Ostrozhets" is one of the many towns about
which some information can be found in the "Encyclopedia of Jewish Life"


It behooves all Jewishgenners to consult Jewishgen's ShtetlSeeker, click on
its map function for the town sought. They should also try searching through
Jewishgen's Discussion Group Archives and the message archives of its Special
Interest Groups, and to remember to do websearches before posing questions
which they can often answer through their own efforts. I have often found it very
useful when looking for information I can't find in books or on the internet,
to use the "Search this website" box on Jewishgen's main page
(www.jewishgen.org). As always, while using Jewishgens' "searchbox" and looking elsewhere
one always has to keep in mind alternate spellings, some of which can be very
odd and even erroneous.


It may very well be true that the Germans incited the Poles and Ukrainians to
the Germans' "dirty work." Unfortunately, in many towns the Germans did not
even have to work hard to provoke the non-Jewish inhabitants Throughout their
histories, Poles and Ukrainians were often at loggerheads, and the Jews were
all too often blamed for the perceived problems of the antagonists.

In some towns the Germans or their collaborators would simply slaughter the
Jews, while in other towns the Jews would be rounded up and sent to ghettos
which were set up in larger towns and cities, or sent directly to concentration
or "death" camps.



Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa,St. Petersburg and
Berdichev;ROTHSTEIN, Kremenchug; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets; LEVY,
WEIL, Mulhouse; SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Podwolochisk,
Berdichev; BEHAM, Salok and Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine RE: Ostrozec #ukraine

NFatouros@...
 

In a message dated 10/1/03 9:26:21 PM, David.M.Simon@gems9.gov.bc.ca writes:

<< My mother in law has applied for some sort of compensation or pension based

on her having being in a ghetto or in an area that was persecuted by the

Germans (I am not sure which). She was living in Ostrozec, a "town" that

was in Poland prior to the war, then Russia then the Ukraine. Her

application was rejected as they had no record of any "action" in that

area. She says the Germans basically got the local Polish/Ukrainian boys

to do their dirty work.


Has anyone heard of this town or the area ? Or know of where I might find

some information about it ?

>>

A quick google search turned up the information that the SS murdered 900 Jews
of "Ostrozec, Volhynia." See:

http://members.tripod.com/~ebionite/zikkar.htm

Another URL that appeared for Ostrozec was:

http://www.jewishgen.org/cemetery/e-europe/ukra-o.html

which indicated that Ostrozec or "Ostrozhets" is located 50 kilometers >from
Rovno and 16 kilometers >from Lutzk.

Chester G. Cohen's "Shtetl Finder Gazetteer" says that Ostrozhets is
northeast of Lvov and 15 kilometers north of "Malinov" ( or Mlynow), and that in 1897
the census reported its Jewish population as consisting of 636 Jews.

"Where We Once Walked" gives the map coordinates for Ostrozhets in the
Ukraine, 50 kilometers west of Rovno, as 50'40/15'33.

According to my "google" search "Ostrozhets" is one of the many towns about
which some information can be found in the "Encyclopedia of Jewish Life"


It behooves all Jewishgenners to consult Jewishgen's ShtetlSeeker, click on
its map function for the town sought. They should also try searching through
Jewishgen's Discussion Group Archives and the message archives of its Special
Interest Groups, and to remember to do websearches before posing questions
which they can often answer through their own efforts. I have often found it very
useful when looking for information I can't find in books or on the internet,
to use the "Search this website" box on Jewishgen's main page
(www.jewishgen.org). As always, while using Jewishgens' "searchbox" and looking elsewhere
one always has to keep in mind alternate spellings, some of which can be very
odd and even erroneous.


It may very well be true that the Germans incited the Poles and Ukrainians to
the Germans' "dirty work." Unfortunately, in many towns the Germans did not
even have to work hard to provoke the non-Jewish inhabitants Throughout their
histories, Poles and Ukrainians were often at loggerheads, and the Jews were
all too often blamed for the perceived problems of the antagonists.

In some towns the Germans or their collaborators would simply slaughter the
Jews, while in other towns the Jews would be rounded up and sent to ghettos
which were set up in larger towns and cities, or sent directly to concentration
or "death" camps.



Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa,St. Petersburg and
Berdichev;ROTHSTEIN, Kremenchug; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets; LEVY,
WEIL, Mulhouse; SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Podwolochisk,
Berdichev; BEHAM, Salok and Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.


Places named #ukraine

a_cgryfe@...
 

I would be most grateful to anyone who can assist me with the translation
of the document at

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=2917

I believe it is a Russian-language death record of a sister of my
maternal grandmother, but I am particularly interested in all the place
names that are in the document.

Please reply to me directly, if you can help.

Cyril Gryfe
Toronto ON Canada

Researching SZMULEWICZ and SZTAJNIC >from Czestochowa region.


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Places named #ukraine

a_cgryfe@...
 

I would be most grateful to anyone who can assist me with the translation
of the document at

http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=2917

I believe it is a Russian-language death record of a sister of my
maternal grandmother, but I am particularly interested in all the place
names that are in the document.

Please reply to me directly, if you can help.

Cyril Gryfe
Toronto ON Canada

Researching SZMULEWICZ and SZTAJNIC >from Czestochowa region.


Re: Ostrozec #ukraine

Lillian Siegfried <lillians@...>
 

At 03:31 PM 9/30/2003 -0700, Simon, David M MSER:EX wrote:

My mother in law has applied for some sort of compensation or pension based
on her having being in a ghetto or in an area that was persecuted by the
Germans (I am not sure which). She was living in Ostrozec, a "town" that
was in Poland prior to the war, then Russia then the Ukraine. Her
application was rejected as they had no record of any "action" in that
area. She says the Germans basically got the local Polish/Ukrainian boys
to do their dirty work.

Has anyone heard of this town or the area ? Or know of where I might find
some information about it ?


David M. Simon

Try contacting YIVO at the center for Jewish History
Staten Island, NY
Lillian Siegfried


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine RE: Ostrozec #ukraine

Lillian Siegfried <lillians@...>
 

At 03:31 PM 9/30/2003 -0700, Simon, David M MSER:EX wrote:

My mother in law has applied for some sort of compensation or pension based
on her having being in a ghetto or in an area that was persecuted by the
Germans (I am not sure which). She was living in Ostrozec, a "town" that
was in Poland prior to the war, then Russia then the Ukraine. Her
application was rejected as they had no record of any "action" in that
area. She says the Germans basically got the local Polish/Ukrainian boys
to do their dirty work.

Has anyone heard of this town or the area ? Or know of where I might find
some information about it ?


David M. Simon

Try contacting YIVO at the center for Jewish History
Staten Island, NY
Lillian Siegfried


Translation of Medical Term Needed #galicia

Stephanie Weiner <laguna@...>
 

Greetings, Genners,

I have just received a death record, and would like to know what cause
of death was attributed to. The column heading is "Choroba i rodzaj
smierci" in what I assume is Polish, and "Krankheit und Todesart" in
German -- I'm assuming this is translated as "cause of death" or some
similar phrase. The term that is written in, as best as I can make it
out, is GRUZLICA. What might GRUZLICA be?

TIA for your help.

Stephanie Weiner
San Diego, CA, USA


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Translation of Medical Term Needed #galicia

Stephanie Weiner <laguna@...>
 

Greetings, Genners,

I have just received a death record, and would like to know what cause
of death was attributed to. The column heading is "Choroba i rodzaj
smierci" in what I assume is Polish, and "Krankheit und Todesart" in
German -- I'm assuming this is translated as "cause of death" or some
similar phrase. The term that is written in, as best as I can make it
out, is GRUZLICA. What might GRUZLICA be?

TIA for your help.

Stephanie Weiner
San Diego, CA, USA