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Web resource #yiddish

Rodger Rosenberg <eandr@...>
 

I recently found the Research Library and Archives of Jewish Theatersite
which contains a lot of wonderful articles. Enjoy!!

http://members.tripod.com/~jtheater/
Yiddish Theatre and Vadeville #YiddishTheatre Web resource #yiddish

Rodger Rosenberg <eandr@...>
 

I recently found the Research Library and Archives of Jewish Theatersite
which contains a lot of wonderful articles. Enjoy!!

http://members.tripod.com/~jtheater/
Fw: Missing Family-Gliksman #southafrica

Dr Saul Issroff <saul@...>
 

From: Hilary Bright <hilary.bright@virgin.net>
Subject: Missing Family
Date: 26 September 2000 19:37

Please can you try and help me. I am looking for my father's family. The
family name is Gliksman and their last know address was Hillbrow,
Johannesburg. Unfortunately this was about 40 years ago.

Any information would be grateful.

Regards. Hilary Bright
Hilary Bright <hilary.bright@virgin.net>
--
Dr Saul Issroff
London2001
21st International Conference on Jewish Genealogy
8-13 July 2001
www.jewishgen.org/london2001
South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Fw: Missing Family-Gliksman #southafrica

Dr Saul Issroff <saul@...>
 

From: Hilary Bright <hilary.bright@virgin.net>
Subject: Missing Family
Date: 26 September 2000 19:37

Please can you try and help me. I am looking for my father's family. The
family name is Gliksman and their last know address was Hillbrow,
Johannesburg. Unfortunately this was about 40 years ago.

Any information would be grateful.

Regards. Hilary Bright
Hilary Bright <hilary.bright@virgin.net>
--
Dr Saul Issroff
London2001
21st International Conference on Jewish Genealogy
8-13 July 2001
www.jewishgen.org/london2001
Re: 1910 Federal Census #general

Martha Lev-Zion <martha@...>
 


Moral: when in doubt, think phonetically.
Yessir, Deutch-Mokotoff works every time!

I loved your story! Martha.
Latvia SIG #Latvia Re: 1910 Federal Census #latvia

Martha Lev-Zion <martha@...>
 


Moral: when in doubt, think phonetically.
Yessir, Deutch-Mokotoff works every time!

I loved your story! Martha.
Searching: Alan David Levin #lithuania

Louis A Fine <loufine@...>
 

Dear Genners, Litvaken,Belarusans,

I am looking for Alan David LEVIN. Attended U of Wisconsin, circa
1957-58. Worked on Masters degree in Psychology. Went into marketing
research in NYC after graduation. Was a classical disk jockey in Boston
MA back in the late 40's early 50's.

Louis A. Fine
University Place WA. USA
<loufine@juno.com>
Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Searching: Alan David Levin #lithuania

Louis A Fine <loufine@...>
 

Dear Genners, Litvaken,Belarusans,

I am looking for Alan David LEVIN. Attended U of Wisconsin, circa
1957-58. Worked on Masters degree in Psychology. Went into marketing
research in NYC after graduation. Was a classical disk jockey in Boston
MA back in the late 40's early 50's.

Louis A. Fine
University Place WA. USA
<loufine@juno.com>
Re: [DNA] Can I find out if my DN A says I'm Jewish ... #dna

DonnDevine@...
 

Hi Annee--

Bennett Greenspan or one of his expert associates can correct me if I'm
wrong, but I don't believe there's a whole lot more that can be determined
from your DNA to answer your questions, unless you can find known or
suspected living relatives whose DNA can be compared to yours, and each
evaluated for its own characteristics. Perhaps someone else knows how
frequently the H haplogroup is found among people who identify themselves as
Jewish?

Your mtDNA can tell nothing of your paternal heritage, and on your mother's
side, it describes only one specific ancestor--the one in the all-female
line, who was determined to be >from the H haplogroup, out of many thousands
of female in your ancestral line. While it seems to have originated in the
Basque country beneath the Pyrenees in Spain, it has also been present in
Britain and Ireland for over 10,000 years. While it's intriguing to think
your remote mtDNA ancestor may account for your fair complexion and lighter
hair, it is far more likely that those characteristics came >from any of your
thousands of other ancestors, both male and female.

Donn Devine
Wilmington, Delaware, USA
donndevine@aol.com

--------------------Original Message-----------------

< Subject: Can I find out if my DN A says I'm Jewish >from Israel or a Semite
from <Asia?
From: "Annee Ani" <annee_ani@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 20:23:17 PDT
X-Message-Number: 1

Can the DNA test tell me whether I'm originally or ancestrally Jewish >from
Israel or some other Arab country or Iran in origin in the past, say in
Biblical times? I've always wondered, since my paternal grandmother had red
hair and blue eyes. I want to find out what geographic part of the world my
common ancestor was >from going back anywhere >from 100 years to 2,000 or
4,000 years. Was I originated in Western Europe, or the Middle East?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>SNIP<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Annee Ani >>
DNA Research #DNA Re: [DNA] Can I find out if my DN A says I'm Jewish ... #dna

DonnDevine@...
 

Hi Annee--

Bennett Greenspan or one of his expert associates can correct me if I'm
wrong, but I don't believe there's a whole lot more that can be determined
from your DNA to answer your questions, unless you can find known or
suspected living relatives whose DNA can be compared to yours, and each
evaluated for its own characteristics. Perhaps someone else knows how
frequently the H haplogroup is found among people who identify themselves as
Jewish?

Your mtDNA can tell nothing of your paternal heritage, and on your mother's
side, it describes only one specific ancestor--the one in the all-female
line, who was determined to be >from the H haplogroup, out of many thousands
of female in your ancestral line. While it seems to have originated in the
Basque country beneath the Pyrenees in Spain, it has also been present in
Britain and Ireland for over 10,000 years. While it's intriguing to think
your remote mtDNA ancestor may account for your fair complexion and lighter
hair, it is far more likely that those characteristics came >from any of your
thousands of other ancestors, both male and female.

Donn Devine
Wilmington, Delaware, USA
donndevine@aol.com

--------------------Original Message-----------------

< Subject: Can I find out if my DN A says I'm Jewish >from Israel or a Semite
from <Asia?
From: "Annee Ani" <annee_ani@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Sep 2000 20:23:17 PDT
X-Message-Number: 1

Can the DNA test tell me whether I'm originally or ancestrally Jewish >from
Israel or some other Arab country or Iran in origin in the past, say in
Biblical times? I've always wondered, since my paternal grandmother had red
hair and blue eyes. I want to find out what geographic part of the world my
common ancestor was >from going back anywhere >from 100 years to 2,000 or
4,000 years. Was I originated in Western Europe, or the Middle East?

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>SNIP<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

Annee Ani >>
Re: Can I find out if my DN A says I'm Jewish from Israel or a Semite from As... #dna

APTurner@...
 

If you are counting the positions for the letters which show up in red on the
chart >from Oxford Ancestors, you should add 16000 to the results to match the
way numbers are reported in the literature. I don't know if that makes any
difference in your interpretation, though.

In a message dated 09/26/2000 4:22:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
annee_ani@hotmail.com writes:

Well, the mtDNA test I took and sent to London came back with a report that
my first maternal ancestor was a lady born in Basque country on the border
between France and Spain. I belong to the "H" haplotype group.

What does that mean? Am I Western European--French Spanish? Or Jewish?
I was told by a colleague at Stanford who spent a decade studying mtDNA,
that because I have mutations 189,362, and 356, it is likely that I come
>from Western Europe, not Eastern Europe and not the Middle East.
DNA Research #DNA Re: Can I find out if my DN A says I'm Jewish from Israel or a Semite from As... #dna

APTurner@...
 

If you are counting the positions for the letters which show up in red on the
chart >from Oxford Ancestors, you should add 16000 to the results to match the
way numbers are reported in the literature. I don't know if that makes any
difference in your interpretation, though.

In a message dated 09/26/2000 4:22:51 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
annee_ani@hotmail.com writes:

Well, the mtDNA test I took and sent to London came back with a report that
my first maternal ancestor was a lady born in Basque country on the border
between France and Spain. I belong to the "H" haplotype group.

What does that mean? Am I Western European--French Spanish? Or Jewish?
I was told by a colleague at Stanford who spent a decade studying mtDNA,
that because I have mutations 189,362, and 356, it is likely that I come
>from Western Europe, not Eastern Europe and not the Middle East.
Re: Yiddish pronunciation #general

Martin Green <btestware@...>
 

Mishigina/mishugina is an example of the difference
between Polish and Litvish, or Lithuanian Yiddish.
Similarly, gekimmen/gekummen. Zug/zog is an
example of the same thing...similarly, vus/vos
and dus/dos.

Another indicator, which you don't mention here,
is ey/ay. For example, Polish would be "kayn",
rhymes with "mine", and Litvish would be "keyn",
rhymes with "pain".

You might also note that as far as Yiddish pronunciation
is concerned, "Lithuania" extends quite a long way, including
all of White Russia.

Martin Green

My wifes uncle sent me a list of Yiddish expressions that he remembers
from his childhood in Londons East End. I am not an expert on
Yiddish dialect, nor do I speak more than a few words of Yiddish.
Would it be possible to pinpoint an area of ones origins
(in this case before London) based on pronunciation? I am
choosing a couple of words >from the list my uncle-in-law sent me.

mishigina (I would say mishugana)
zug yur (my uncle-in-law says this means say yes, I would pronounce say as
zag)
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Yiddish pronunciation #general

Martin Green <btestware@...>
 

Mishigina/mishugina is an example of the difference
between Polish and Litvish, or Lithuanian Yiddish.
Similarly, gekimmen/gekummen. Zug/zog is an
example of the same thing...similarly, vus/vos
and dus/dos.

Another indicator, which you don't mention here,
is ey/ay. For example, Polish would be "kayn",
rhymes with "mine", and Litvish would be "keyn",
rhymes with "pain".

You might also note that as far as Yiddish pronunciation
is concerned, "Lithuania" extends quite a long way, including
all of White Russia.

Martin Green

My wifes uncle sent me a list of Yiddish expressions that he remembers
from his childhood in Londons East End. I am not an expert on
Yiddish dialect, nor do I speak more than a few words of Yiddish.
Would it be possible to pinpoint an area of ones origins
(in this case before London) based on pronunciation? I am
choosing a couple of words >from the list my uncle-in-law sent me.

mishigina (I would say mishugana)
zug yur (my uncle-in-law says this means say yes, I would pronounce say as
zag)
BRENNER/ZOLTY #general

Serge SIMEONI <simeoni@...>
 

Family BRENNER / ZOLTY.
I am searching for informations about the family ZOLTY / BRENNER.
ZOLTY Perla, Paula was born in Poland before 1900 (the was daughter of
Yechastiel ZOLTY born in 1859 the 25 th of july in Radomsko in Poland)
married with Herch Ber BRENNER. After they went in Argentine in Buenos-AIRES
before 1940 where they had 2 children :
- Suzanne BRENNER married with Marcos X ? perhaps with 2 children Alicia
and Sergio.
- Abraham BRENNER married with X ? Perhaps with one son Mario and a
daughter.

If you have informations about this family please send me your message at
this adress :
Csimeoni@infonie.fr
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen BRENNER/ZOLTY #general

Serge SIMEONI <simeoni@...>
 

Family BRENNER / ZOLTY.
I am searching for informations about the family ZOLTY / BRENNER.
ZOLTY Perla, Paula was born in Poland before 1900 (the was daughter of
Yechastiel ZOLTY born in 1859 the 25 th of july in Radomsko in Poland)
married with Herch Ber BRENNER. After they went in Argentine in Buenos-AIRES
before 1940 where they had 2 children :
- Suzanne BRENNER married with Marcos X ? perhaps with 2 children Alicia
and Sergio.
- Abraham BRENNER married with X ? Perhaps with one son Mario and a
daughter.

If you have informations about this family please send me your message at
this adress :
Csimeoni@infonie.fr
Iranian/Persian Jews #general

'Menna' Megan B. Kearns <siguiria@...>
 

I know >from historical facts and personal accounts the travelings of the
expelled Sephardic Jews in the Mediterranean and Near East areas. My
mother's side is Sephardic and has been in France, Gibraltar, England,
Italy, Turkey and Oran and Spanish Morocco before going to Latin America
and the US. However, my question is about my paternal Persian jewish
side. They were >from Tehran before moving to France in the
1950s. I am familiar with the distinction between the Mizrahim (which
would include Persian jews) and the Sephardim, who trace roots back to the
Iberian peninsula. My question lies in that. According to the family and
to friends of the family, my paternal grandmother's side was Sephardic,
even though she was also Iranian. It is also possible my paternal
grandfather had Sephardic ancestry too. There seems to be some
connection/contact with earlier Ottoman (Syrian/Lebanese)/Babylonian
(Iraqi) Jews and also with some time in India. The family was originally
merchants, though some my immediate family worked for the late shah and
his father regarding national education.
I am wondering, since I have seen little to nothing on the subject, if the
Sephardim made it and settled in Persian/Iran also, perhaps via the
Ottoman empire?
Thanks
M. Kearns Toledano
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Iranian/Persian Jews #general

'Menna' Megan B. Kearns <siguiria@...>
 

I know >from historical facts and personal accounts the travelings of the
expelled Sephardic Jews in the Mediterranean and Near East areas. My
mother's side is Sephardic and has been in France, Gibraltar, England,
Italy, Turkey and Oran and Spanish Morocco before going to Latin America
and the US. However, my question is about my paternal Persian jewish
side. They were >from Tehran before moving to France in the
1950s. I am familiar with the distinction between the Mizrahim (which
would include Persian jews) and the Sephardim, who trace roots back to the
Iberian peninsula. My question lies in that. According to the family and
to friends of the family, my paternal grandmother's side was Sephardic,
even though she was also Iranian. It is also possible my paternal
grandfather had Sephardic ancestry too. There seems to be some
connection/contact with earlier Ottoman (Syrian/Lebanese)/Babylonian
(Iraqi) Jews and also with some time in India. The family was originally
merchants, though some my immediate family worked for the late shah and
his father regarding national education.
I am wondering, since I have seen little to nothing on the subject, if the
Sephardim made it and settled in Persian/Iran also, perhaps via the
Ottoman empire?
Thanks
M. Kearns Toledano
That time of year #general

NormTillman@...
 

It's the time of year when things here in the northeast start fading. The
grass begins losing the blush green color, the flowers in the garden are
wilting, our bathing suits and shorts are packed away and we start wearing
heavier clothes. But it is also time to wish you all a very healthy and
happy new year. LA SHONA TOVA.

Norman Tillman - Albany, NY
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen That time of year #general

NormTillman@...
 

It's the time of year when things here in the northeast start fading. The
grass begins losing the blush green color, the flowers in the garden are
wilting, our bathing suits and shorts are packed away and we start wearing
heavier clothes. But it is also time to wish you all a very healthy and
happy new year. LA SHONA TOVA.

Norman Tillman - Albany, NY
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