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Re: Is there any list for people in Yellow Star Houses-Budapest? #hungary

Peter I.Hidas <thidas@...>
 

On Wednesday, Jun 23, 2004, at 14:46 Canada/Eastern, Susanna Vendel
wrote:

I wonder if there is a list of the inhabitants of the Yellow Star
Houses
in Budapest, 1944 and if the answer is "yes" how it can be accessed?

Susanna Vendel, Stockholm
There is no such list. A list of 200,000 persons?

Peter
Mississauga, Ontario
Canada

www3.sympatico.ca/thidas
peterhidas@yahoo.com


Re: Reading the name of a town in Hungary #hungary

Wolf-Erich Eckstein <w.eckstein@...>
 

"Lea Steg in Synowodzko nizna, Tochter der Eltern Jeruchim und Ruchel Steg
aus Also Verecko, Marmaros, verheiratet nach mosaischem Ritus mit Bendit
Tane in Synowodzko nizna"

Synowodzko nizna is a polish town name; you'll find more for Synowodzko
Wyzne, near Stryj ("Wyzne" for High, "Nizne" for Low).
The other place Also Verecko in Marmaros county is (was) hungarian, now
Romania.

Wolf-Erich Eckstein
Vienna/AUSTRIA


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Is there any list for people in Yellow Star Houses-Budapest? #hungary

Peter I.Hidas <thidas@...>
 

On Wednesday, Jun 23, 2004, at 14:46 Canada/Eastern, Susanna Vendel
wrote:

I wonder if there is a list of the inhabitants of the Yellow Star
Houses
in Budapest, 1944 and if the answer is "yes" how it can be accessed?

Susanna Vendel, Stockholm
There is no such list. A list of 200,000 persons?

Peter
Mississauga, Ontario
Canada

www3.sympatico.ca/thidas
peterhidas@yahoo.com


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Reading the name of a town in Hungary #hungary

Wolf-Erich Eckstein <w.eckstein@...>
 

"Lea Steg in Synowodzko nizna, Tochter der Eltern Jeruchim und Ruchel Steg
aus Also Verecko, Marmaros, verheiratet nach mosaischem Ritus mit Bendit
Tane in Synowodzko nizna"

Synowodzko nizna is a polish town name; you'll find more for Synowodzko
Wyzne, near Stryj ("Wyzne" for High, "Nizne" for Low).
The other place Also Verecko in Marmaros county is (was) hungarian, now
Romania.

Wolf-Erich Eckstein
Vienna/AUSTRIA


Re: * Putting on my Sh. Holmes cap (was re: New name of Wahrmann utca?) #hungary

Peter I.Hidas <thidas@...>
 

On Wednesday, Jun 23, 2004, at 10:55 Canada/Eastern, GilaMiriam Chait
wrote:

I know Kresz Geza utca in the 13th district, where I
went to school for two years till we left Hungary in
1956. It was known as Kresz Geza utca back then, but
may have had a different name before the end of the
war.

Gila Miriam Chait
Manchester, England

--- Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@uol.com.br> wrote: > If
the moderator allows me to answer Susanna's
question in public, here are some interesting
information.

First al all, if you are looking for ANY
information, use the Internet resources, mainly
Google. There is hardly a word or subject that you
won't find there.

For example, searching the words "Wahrmann utca" and
only Hungarian sites I found the page (in
Hungarian)
I already replied to the question: Wahrmnn utca=Viktor Hugo utca.

Peter
Mississauga, Ontario
Canada

www3.sympatico.ca/thidas
peterhidas@yahoo.com


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: * Putting on my Sh. Holmes cap (was re: New name of Wahrmann utca?) #hungary

Peter I.Hidas <thidas@...>
 

On Wednesday, Jun 23, 2004, at 10:55 Canada/Eastern, GilaMiriam Chait
wrote:

I know Kresz Geza utca in the 13th district, where I
went to school for two years till we left Hungary in
1956. It was known as Kresz Geza utca back then, but
may have had a different name before the end of the
war.

Gila Miriam Chait
Manchester, England

--- Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@uol.com.br> wrote: > If
the moderator allows me to answer Susanna's
question in public, here are some interesting
information.

First al all, if you are looking for ANY
information, use the Internet resources, mainly
Google. There is hardly a word or subject that you
won't find there.

For example, searching the words "Wahrmann utca" and
only Hungarian sites I found the page (in
Hungarian)
I already replied to the question: Wahrmnn utca=Viktor Hugo utca.

Peter
Mississauga, Ontario
Canada

www3.sympatico.ca/thidas
peterhidas@yahoo.com


shtetl of JURE/YURE #lithuania

Wayne N. Frankel <wnf@...>
 

Dear Listers,

Does anyone know something about the shtetl of JURE (or YURA or YURE
or JURA), approximately 75 mi west of Vilna? In particular I'm
looking to see where the records >from there might be located. The
RTR database doesn't get to a JURE or YURE, the ALD doesn't seem to
get there either using this town name (Daitch-Mokotoff soundex),
although somewhere else it may have been listed as part of Suwalk
gubernya. Its not listed under Jure (etc) under the Litvak shtetl
links either, nor does it seem to be listed in the Suwalk-Lomza SIG
list of towns or in the LitvakSIG shtetl list.

Please email me directly if you know something about JURE.

Thanks for your help,

Wayne Frankel
Bar Harbor

Now researching SASS, FRANKEL, FROMM, SEBASEWITSCH, FRIEDLANDER,
CHABATSKI, ICHKOWITZ >from all kinds of places including VILKAVISKIS,
VIEVIS, JURE, KONIN, DZERNSBIK, KALISH, BIALYSTOCK hopefully not too
many others!


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania shtetl of JURE/YURE #lithuania

Wayne N. Frankel <wnf@...>
 

Dear Listers,

Does anyone know something about the shtetl of JURE (or YURA or YURE
or JURA), approximately 75 mi west of Vilna? In particular I'm
looking to see where the records >from there might be located. The
RTR database doesn't get to a JURE or YURE, the ALD doesn't seem to
get there either using this town name (Daitch-Mokotoff soundex),
although somewhere else it may have been listed as part of Suwalk
gubernya. Its not listed under Jure (etc) under the Litvak shtetl
links either, nor does it seem to be listed in the Suwalk-Lomza SIG
list of towns or in the LitvakSIG shtetl list.

Please email me directly if you know something about JURE.

Thanks for your help,

Wayne Frankel
Bar Harbor

Now researching SASS, FRANKEL, FROMM, SEBASEWITSCH, FRIEDLANDER,
CHABATSKI, ICHKOWITZ >from all kinds of places including VILKAVISKIS,
VIEVIS, JURE, KONIN, DZERNSBIK, KALISH, BIALYSTOCK hopefully not too
many others!


WENGERKA Family #poland

Sherry Kisos <smwwk770@...>
 

Dear All,

My grandfather's family, WENGERKA, originally came
from two small towns near Lomza city. Very close to
the beginning of WWI (1913?), they moved >from this
area to Bialystock and >from Bialystock, the family
came to the USA. An older sister and brother came
first in 1913; my grandfather and his older sister in
1920; and the mother and two younger brothers in 1923.
Their father died ca 1917.

The documentation for this is a photocopy of the
original passport on which the older brother and
sister came to NYC in 1913 and the various manifests
that were found on the Ellis Island database.

On the manifest in which my grandfather and his sister
appear, there is also the address of their mother in
Bialystock: Sucha 4.

The names of the family:
parents: Icek Majer and Elke (SIWEK) WENGERKA
Children: Chaya Cipa, Huna, Liebe, Chaim Wolf, Zuniel
and Berel.

Shabbat Shalom,
Sherry KISOS
Petach Tikvah, ISrael


BialyGen: Bialystok Region #Bialystok #Poland WENGERKA Family #poland

Sherry Kisos <smwwk770@...>
 

Dear All,

My grandfather's family, WENGERKA, originally came
from two small towns near Lomza city. Very close to
the beginning of WWI (1913?), they moved >from this
area to Bialystock and >from Bialystock, the family
came to the USA. An older sister and brother came
first in 1913; my grandfather and his older sister in
1920; and the mother and two younger brothers in 1923.
Their father died ca 1917.

The documentation for this is a photocopy of the
original passport on which the older brother and
sister came to NYC in 1913 and the various manifests
that were found on the Ellis Island database.

On the manifest in which my grandfather and his sister
appear, there is also the address of their mother in
Bialystock: Sucha 4.

The names of the family:
parents: Icek Majer and Elke (SIWEK) WENGERKA
Children: Chaya Cipa, Huna, Liebe, Chaim Wolf, Zuniel
and Berel.

Shabbat Shalom,
Sherry KISOS
Petach Tikvah, ISrael


Viewmate 4286 and 4287 marriage record 1898 Polish translation needed #galicia

KLOOGWEIN@...
 

I would like some help in translating a Galician marriage record >from 1898,
written in Polish. It is in two Viewmate files, VM 4286 and VM4287. I
obtained this record thru JRI-Poland. The whole process worked wonderfully.

TheViewmate address in http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=4286
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=4287

Please respond to me directly. I appreciate your help.

Judy Weinstein
kloogwein@aol.com

Thanks.

Judy K. Weinstein
Great Neck, NY USA


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Viewmate 4286 and 4287 marriage record 1898 Polish translation needed #galicia

KLOOGWEIN@...
 

I would like some help in translating a Galician marriage record >from 1898,
written in Polish. It is in two Viewmate files, VM 4286 and VM4287. I
obtained this record thru JRI-Poland. The whole process worked wonderfully.

TheViewmate address in http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=4286
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/viewmateview.asp?key=4287

Please respond to me directly. I appreciate your help.

Judy Weinstein
kloogwein@aol.com

Thanks.

Judy K. Weinstein
Great Neck, NY USA


Yassian #galicia

Harry Shragg <harryyetta@...>
 

My mother in law came to the USA >from Yassian, Austria in 1907 aboard the
ship Alicia. She and 2 sisters and a brother boarded the ship in Trieste. I
wpould like to find this town or village and i assume that it is now part of
Poland, but maybe in the Ukraine. Her name was Sarah(Sadie) Horowitz. I
would appreciate any information about that town tha anyone might have.

Harry Shragg M.D.
2115 Ridge Dr.
LA,Ca.90049
harryyetta@adelphia.net


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Yassian #galicia

Harry Shragg <harryyetta@...>
 

My mother in law came to the USA >from Yassian, Austria in 1907 aboard the
ship Alicia. She and 2 sisters and a brother boarded the ship in Trieste. I
wpould like to find this town or village and i assume that it is now part of
Poland, but maybe in the Ukraine. Her name was Sarah(Sadie) Horowitz. I
would appreciate any information about that town tha anyone might have.

Harry Shragg M.D.
2115 Ridge Dr.
LA,Ca.90049
harryyetta@adelphia.net


Re: Processing at Castle Garden #general

David Sencer
 

There are a wonderful series of pictures available >from the New York Public
Library site http://digital.nypl.org/mmpco/index.cfm

The National Park Service site also provides some information.
http://www.nps.gov/cacl/index.htm

Google also offers some interesting material such as
http://members.tripod.com/~L_Alfano/immig.htm

Dave Sencer

From: Stew Driller <sdriller@nyc.rr.com>
To: JewishGen Discussion Group <jewishgen@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Date: 6/25/2004 10:44:34 AM
Subject: Processing at Castle Garden
Does anyone know about or have a reference to the actual
processing procedure at Castle Garden.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Processing at Castle Garden #general

David Sencer
 

There are a wonderful series of pictures available >from the New York Public
Library site http://digital.nypl.org/mmpco/index.cfm

The National Park Service site also provides some information.
http://www.nps.gov/cacl/index.htm

Google also offers some interesting material such as
http://members.tripod.com/~L_Alfano/immig.htm

Dave Sencer

From: Stew Driller <sdriller@nyc.rr.com>
To: JewishGen Discussion Group <jewishgen@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Date: 6/25/2004 10:44:34 AM
Subject: Processing at Castle Garden
Does anyone know about or have a reference to the actual
processing procedure at Castle Garden.


Re: Application for a Social Security Number #general

Ted Gostin
 

Shellie Wiener recently asked about an application for a Social
Security Number that she received. It was not an SS-5 >from the Social
Security Administration, but a Form 3327 >from the IRS. She wondered
why she did not receive an SS-5 form.

I believe that the answer can be found on the Social Security
Administration website, under their history section. They have a
timeline that indicates that in 1963, the IRS began using Social
Security Numbers as the official taxpayer ID. Since the person in
question obtained the number in 1963 at the age 66 to 69, it appears
that she did not previously have a SS# (like many elderly women who
worked primarily at home), and had to obtain one in 1963 for tax
purposes.

The SSA website also has many other interesting notes it its history
section, which is worth a look.

Ted Gostin
tedgostin@generationspress.com
Los Angeles, CA

I requested [per one of the other genealogy web-sites suggests] a
photocopy of the actual application for a Social Security card, (Form
SS-5 Social Security Number Record Third Party Request for Photocopy.)
I received an enlarged photocopy of Form 3227 - U.S. Treasury Dep't.
- IRS Application for an Account Number, which looks exactly like the
form that I filled out for myself in 1971.

Should I have asked for the Form SS-5 in the first place? This cousin
applied when she was 66-69 years old in 1963. When I wrote the letter
to the Social Security Adminstration I had no idea as to when she had
applied. [She had been widowed during the Depression.] Was the form
number or method of giving out Social Security cards and numbers
changed at some point? Would it make it easier for the Social
Security Adminstration if one asks for one form prior to a certain
date and another form after said date?

As always, many thanks in advance.
Shellie Wiener
San Francisco, CA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Application for a Social Security Number #general

Ted Gostin
 

Shellie Wiener recently asked about an application for a Social
Security Number that she received. It was not an SS-5 >from the Social
Security Administration, but a Form 3327 >from the IRS. She wondered
why she did not receive an SS-5 form.

I believe that the answer can be found on the Social Security
Administration website, under their history section. They have a
timeline that indicates that in 1963, the IRS began using Social
Security Numbers as the official taxpayer ID. Since the person in
question obtained the number in 1963 at the age 66 to 69, it appears
that she did not previously have a SS# (like many elderly women who
worked primarily at home), and had to obtain one in 1963 for tax
purposes.

The SSA website also has many other interesting notes it its history
section, which is worth a look.

Ted Gostin
tedgostin@generationspress.com
Los Angeles, CA

I requested [per one of the other genealogy web-sites suggests] a
photocopy of the actual application for a Social Security card, (Form
SS-5 Social Security Number Record Third Party Request for Photocopy.)
I received an enlarged photocopy of Form 3227 - U.S. Treasury Dep't.
- IRS Application for an Account Number, which looks exactly like the
form that I filled out for myself in 1971.

Should I have asked for the Form SS-5 in the first place? This cousin
applied when she was 66-69 years old in 1963. When I wrote the letter
to the Social Security Adminstration I had no idea as to when she had
applied. [She had been widowed during the Depression.] Was the form
number or method of giving out Social Security cards and numbers
changed at some point? Would it make it easier for the Social
Security Adminstration if one asks for one form prior to a certain
date and another form after said date?

As always, many thanks in advance.
Shellie Wiener
San Francisco, CA


Where to start? Alice BECKER #general

Bryon L <loretta169@...>
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Bryon L
To: JewishGen
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 5:16 PM
Subject: Where to start? Alice BECKER


Hi Genners

Although I have been researching for many years, I have never had cause to
research Jewish Genealogy until now.
My neighbour has asked me to see what I can discover of her roots.
The only facts I have are her birth certificate which says she was born
Elizabeth BECKER, 1940 in Islington, London, England. No father named on the
certificate. Mother's name Alice Charlotte BECKER.
Alice BECKER died in Hampstead, London, England of a stroke in 1950. Aged
42, no place of birth given.
The then 9 year old Elizabeth was taken to a Jewish children's home,
possibly in Norwood, London.
She was adopted by a Jewish couple in December 1950, who split up when she
was a teenager and she started a life on her own, losing all contact with
her religion.
Other 'facts' >from her memory. Her mother was a trained chiropodist but
never worked as one in England and she spoke very good English with a
foreign accent. Her mother once mentioned a twin sister (of her mother) in
Berlin. She thinks that her mother came to England about 1938 and she has a
faint memory of her mother having a tattoo on her arm but doesn't know if
this is a real memory or something she saw somewhere else and 'implanted' on
her mother.
She does not remember ever meeting anyone that could have been a relative
while living with her mother in London.
That is all I have.
Can someone point me in the right direction to get started? Is there a
Jewish children's home in Norwood? Would they keep records for over 50
years? Is there any way of finding when Alice arrived in England, and from
where?

Bryon Hardaker

Oxfordshire, England

MODERATOR NOTE: Welcome to JewishGen. There are some very good tools
you can use for researching in the UK: The JewishGen infofiles:
http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/#UK
The UK SIG (special interest group) http://www.jewishgen.org/JCR-UK/ They
also have a discussion group, in which you might consider posting this message.
It is also a very good idea to register the name you are seeking in the JGFF
(JewishGen Family Finder). It is the most visited database on our site.
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Where to start? Alice BECKER #general

Bryon L <loretta169@...>
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Bryon L
To: JewishGen
Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 5:16 PM
Subject: Where to start? Alice BECKER


Hi Genners

Although I have been researching for many years, I have never had cause to
research Jewish Genealogy until now.
My neighbour has asked me to see what I can discover of her roots.
The only facts I have are her birth certificate which says she was born
Elizabeth BECKER, 1940 in Islington, London, England. No father named on the
certificate. Mother's name Alice Charlotte BECKER.
Alice BECKER died in Hampstead, London, England of a stroke in 1950. Aged
42, no place of birth given.
The then 9 year old Elizabeth was taken to a Jewish children's home,
possibly in Norwood, London.
She was adopted by a Jewish couple in December 1950, who split up when she
was a teenager and she started a life on her own, losing all contact with
her religion.
Other 'facts' >from her memory. Her mother was a trained chiropodist but
never worked as one in England and she spoke very good English with a
foreign accent. Her mother once mentioned a twin sister (of her mother) in
Berlin. She thinks that her mother came to England about 1938 and she has a
faint memory of her mother having a tattoo on her arm but doesn't know if
this is a real memory or something she saw somewhere else and 'implanted' on
her mother.
She does not remember ever meeting anyone that could have been a relative
while living with her mother in London.
That is all I have.
Can someone point me in the right direction to get started? Is there a
Jewish children's home in Norwood? Would they keep records for over 50
years? Is there any way of finding when Alice arrived in England, and from
where?

Bryon Hardaker

Oxfordshire, England

MODERATOR NOTE: Welcome to JewishGen. There are some very good tools
you can use for researching in the UK: The JewishGen infofiles:
http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/#UK
The UK SIG (special interest group) http://www.jewishgen.org/JCR-UK/ They
also have a discussion group, in which you might consider posting this message.
It is also a very good idea to register the name you are seeking in the JGFF
(JewishGen Family Finder). It is the most visited database on our site.
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff