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An Israeli web site for missing relatives and friends #general

Dan Efrat & Lisa Weissbach-Efrat <lisadan@...>
 

Hello all,

There is a new Israeli web site, designed to help people find relatives and
friends they are no longer in touch with.

The site enables people to write few lines, add pictures etc. Unfortunately
the site is in Hebrew, but I assume you can always ask someone who has a
Hebrew keyboard to enter the data for you.

As mentioned earlier, it is a new site, and as of 10/10, there were only 49
requests.
The URL is http://www.krovim.co.il/

Good luck,

Dan Efrat
Modi'in, Israel

Researching:
ISRAELIT/ISRAELITE >from Belarus and Latvia
RABINOWITZ >from Zhetil (Dyatlovo), Belarus
PRUS/PRUSS >from the Ukraine
KOIFMAN >from the Ukraine
WILENSKY >from Belarus


What concentration camp? #lithuania

Howard Margol
 

Marilyn Achbar Cooper Hall asks, "My grandfather's sister and her husband
lived near Kovno and were exterminated by the Germans in June, 1941 (my
grandfather's words). My question is, to what concentration camp would they have been deported?"

The moderator makes a good suggestion in that you should check everything
available pertaining to the Kaunas ghetto. However, if they lived NEAR Kovno and if they were killed in June, 1941, there is a greater chance that they were killed by locals and not by the Germans. In that case, there would not be a record of those killed. Continue your search though, you may get lucky and find something.

Howard Margol
Atlanta, Georgia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen An Israeli web site for missing relatives and friends #general

Dan Efrat & Lisa Weissbach-Efrat <lisadan@...>
 

Hello all,

There is a new Israeli web site, designed to help people find relatives and
friends they are no longer in touch with.

The site enables people to write few lines, add pictures etc. Unfortunately
the site is in Hebrew, but I assume you can always ask someone who has a
Hebrew keyboard to enter the data for you.

As mentioned earlier, it is a new site, and as of 10/10, there were only 49
requests.
The URL is http://www.krovim.co.il/

Good luck,

Dan Efrat
Modi'in, Israel

Researching:
ISRAELIT/ISRAELITE >from Belarus and Latvia
RABINOWITZ >from Zhetil (Dyatlovo), Belarus
PRUS/PRUSS >from the Ukraine
KOIFMAN >from the Ukraine
WILENSKY >from Belarus


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania What concentration camp? #lithuania

Howard Margol
 

Marilyn Achbar Cooper Hall asks, "My grandfather's sister and her husband
lived near Kovno and were exterminated by the Germans in June, 1941 (my
grandfather's words). My question is, to what concentration camp would they have been deported?"

The moderator makes a good suggestion in that you should check everything
available pertaining to the Kaunas ghetto. However, if they lived NEAR Kovno and if they were killed in June, 1941, there is a greater chance that they were killed by locals and not by the Germans. In that case, there would not be a record of those killed. Continue your search though, you may get lucky and find something.

Howard Margol
Atlanta, Georgia


kovno concentration camps #lithuania

BergGyn@...
 

Most of the local Nazi victims wre killed in their own areas, and
not in concentration camps. For example, in Elul (Aug/Sept) 1941,
the Germans went along the Nema river (near Kovno) and, with the
help of the local Lithuanians, exterminated the local Jewish populace
of each town.

Marc Berger, MD
New York City
FREIMAN -Seredzius/Vilkija
VILENTSIK/WILENSKY- Vilkija
PRUS, FRIEDMAN- Rozhnaka, Szczucyn
GURANOWSKY- Wloclawek Poland
BERGER Majerovce/Matasovce Hunmgary (now Slovakia)
ROSENBERG/ROSENBLUM Hummmene, Hungary (now Slovakia)


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania kovno concentration camps #lithuania

BergGyn@...
 

Most of the local Nazi victims wre killed in their own areas, and
not in concentration camps. For example, in Elul (Aug/Sept) 1941,
the Germans went along the Nema river (near Kovno) and, with the
help of the local Lithuanians, exterminated the local Jewish populace
of each town.

Marc Berger, MD
New York City
FREIMAN -Seredzius/Vilkija
VILENTSIK/WILENSKY- Vilkija
PRUS, FRIEDMAN- Rozhnaka, Szczucyn
GURANOWSKY- Wloclawek Poland
BERGER Majerovce/Matasovce Hunmgary (now Slovakia)
ROSENBERG/ROSENBLUM Hummmene, Hungary (now Slovakia)


Kovno Concentration Camps! #lithuania

shaul <shaul@...>
 

Marilyn Achbar asked about concentration camps near Kovno
<Malroots@aol.com>on Thu, 10 Oct 2002
<< My grandfather's sister,Sheine Achbar and her husband, Leizer
Shmuelson lived near Kovno and "were exterminated by the Germans in June
1941" (my grandfather's words). My question is ,to what concentration camp
would they have been deported ? >>

The vast majority of Jews in Kovno were killed in Fort IX ( some in Fort IV and VI). Others were killed in the ghetto itself, or died of natural
causes, starvation and disease, in the ghetto. Others were sent to Latvia
and Estonia and killed there, some, who survived these places were sent to
Stutthof and Dachau and a few to Auschwitz. On 14 July 1943 the ghetto
Kovno was declared a concentration camp, KL Kauen (German for Kovno/
Kaunas) . Unfortunately there is very little that has come to light
regarding the names of Jews killed in Kovno.

This subject is discussed fully in 'The Holocaust in Lithuania 1941-1945, a book of Remembrance by Rose Lerer Cohen and myself, Gefen, Jerusalem and
NY, 2002. The book is available on http://www.jewishgenmall.org/ or
www.israelbooks.com

Saul Issroff


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Kovno Concentration Camps! #lithuania

shaul <shaul@...>
 

Marilyn Achbar asked about concentration camps near Kovno
<Malroots@aol.com>on Thu, 10 Oct 2002
<< My grandfather's sister,Sheine Achbar and her husband, Leizer
Shmuelson lived near Kovno and "were exterminated by the Germans in June
1941" (my grandfather's words). My question is ,to what concentration camp
would they have been deported ? >>

The vast majority of Jews in Kovno were killed in Fort IX ( some in Fort IV and VI). Others were killed in the ghetto itself, or died of natural
causes, starvation and disease, in the ghetto. Others were sent to Latvia
and Estonia and killed there, some, who survived these places were sent to
Stutthof and Dachau and a few to Auschwitz. On 14 July 1943 the ghetto
Kovno was declared a concentration camp, KL Kauen (German for Kovno/
Kaunas) . Unfortunately there is very little that has come to light
regarding the names of Jews killed in Kovno.

This subject is discussed fully in 'The Holocaust in Lithuania 1941-1945, a book of Remembrance by Rose Lerer Cohen and myself, Gefen, Jerusalem and
NY, 2002. The book is available on http://www.jewishgenmall.org/ or
www.israelbooks.com

Saul Issroff


Marriage licences in UK #general

Percy Mett <p.mett@...>
 

Michael:

The law may have changed recently but, typically, a UK marriage
licence has no 'period of validity'. It specifies the date and
place of the marriage.

When I took my elder daughter to the Register Office to give notice
of her marriage, I enquired whether I could move the chupo indoors in
case of inclement weather. The Registrar insisted that the the
wedding had to take place precisely as stated on the certificate.

Regards

Perets Mett

Engagements of a year or longer weren't uncommon at that time. I imagine a
marriage license would have been valid for a year. Altogether, I have no
problem with assuming these were the same people.


BLEKHER in ALD #lithuania

Jackye Sullins <jsullins@...>
 

I need some information >from those familiar with the postal bank records on
the ALD. I found a couple of entries that need further explanation. These
are the entries:

1909-Silale: BLEKHER, Gilia?, father Abram, 40 >from Kvedarna, wife Gite
daughter of Berel, 190 rubles.

1914-Silale: BLEKHER, Gita, father Berel, 45, maiden name GALIS, housewife,
daughter KAGAN, Rashe daughter of Ovsey, 400 rubles

1. What does the 1914 entry mean? Did Gita leave money to her daughter,
Rashe and was Rashe's father Ovsey?

2. The 1909 entry looks like the same family but the man's name is different as well as his father's. Can Ovsey and Gilia? be reconciled?

3. Silale 1858 revision list has an Ovsey whose father was Mordkhel so I
may have the wrong family BUT Ovsey's second name was Yavnel and I cannot
find that name anywhere. Any ideas?

Thank you in advance for any guidance listers might have.

Jackye Sullins
San Diego


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Marriage licences in UK #general

Percy Mett <p.mett@...>
 

Michael:

The law may have changed recently but, typically, a UK marriage
licence has no 'period of validity'. It specifies the date and
place of the marriage.

When I took my elder daughter to the Register Office to give notice
of her marriage, I enquired whether I could move the chupo indoors in
case of inclement weather. The Registrar insisted that the the
wedding had to take place precisely as stated on the certificate.

Regards

Perets Mett

Engagements of a year or longer weren't uncommon at that time. I imagine a
marriage license would have been valid for a year. Altogether, I have no
problem with assuming these were the same people.


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania BLEKHER in ALD #lithuania

Jackye Sullins <jsullins@...>
 

I need some information >from those familiar with the postal bank records on
the ALD. I found a couple of entries that need further explanation. These
are the entries:

1909-Silale: BLEKHER, Gilia?, father Abram, 40 >from Kvedarna, wife Gite
daughter of Berel, 190 rubles.

1914-Silale: BLEKHER, Gita, father Berel, 45, maiden name GALIS, housewife,
daughter KAGAN, Rashe daughter of Ovsey, 400 rubles

1. What does the 1914 entry mean? Did Gita leave money to her daughter,
Rashe and was Rashe's father Ovsey?

2. The 1909 entry looks like the same family but the man's name is different as well as his father's. Can Ovsey and Gilia? be reconciled?

3. Silale 1858 revision list has an Ovsey whose father was Mordkhel so I
may have the wrong family BUT Ovsey's second name was Yavnel and I cannot
find that name anywhere. Any ideas?

Thank you in advance for any guidance listers might have.

Jackye Sullins
San Diego


Lost GerSig subscribers #germany

GerSig@...
 

If you can contact any of the following GerSig member subscribers please
do so.

GerSig postings or GerSig Digests sent to them have bounced 5 days in a
row.
These members have been placed on "HOLD" status and will be purged
from our membership list soon if they do not contact us.
Any informaton on the following appreciated. mailto:gersig@aol.com

redrock@page.az.net Jay Rosenberg
moonray7892002@yahoo.com Jill Anglin
LesMoyaux@Freesurf.ch Salomon Moyal Bloch
weismann@sinectis.com.ar Francis J. Weismann
mesharet@hotmail.com Pam Staley
randlakejake@prodigy.net Ronald Salomon
cpoul24@aol.com Catherine Pouliot

Thanks for any help. Moderator- GerSig


German SIG #Germany Lost GerSig subscribers #germany

GerSig@...
 

If you can contact any of the following GerSig member subscribers please
do so.

GerSig postings or GerSig Digests sent to them have bounced 5 days in a
row.
These members have been placed on "HOLD" status and will be purged
from our membership list soon if they do not contact us.
Any informaton on the following appreciated. mailto:gersig@aol.com

redrock@page.az.net Jay Rosenberg
moonray7892002@yahoo.com Jill Anglin
LesMoyaux@Freesurf.ch Salomon Moyal Bloch
weismann@sinectis.com.ar Francis J. Weismann
mesharet@hotmail.com Pam Staley
randlakejake@prodigy.net Ronald Salomon
cpoul24@aol.com Catherine Pouliot

Thanks for any help. Moderator- GerSig


Seek book on Wuerzburg Landkreis #germany

B Frederics <picturethisfilm@...>
 

Hi,

Does anyone know where I can find a book entitled "Die ehemaligen
juedischen Gemeinden im Landkreis Wuerzburg" by J. Sporch-Pfitzer?

(It translates to "The former Jewish communities in the Wuerzburg
county".) I've tried an inter-library loan in the US, but it is not
available. Thanks.

Bonnie Frederics Tucson, AZ picturethisfilm@email.com

MODERATOR NOTE: Try the Leo Baeck Institute's on line catalogue:

<http://www.lbi.org/>


German SIG #Germany Seek book on Wuerzburg Landkreis #germany

B Frederics <picturethisfilm@...>
 

Hi,

Does anyone know where I can find a book entitled "Die ehemaligen
juedischen Gemeinden im Landkreis Wuerzburg" by J. Sporch-Pfitzer?

(It translates to "The former Jewish communities in the Wuerzburg
county".) I've tried an inter-library loan in the US, but it is not
available. Thanks.

Bonnie Frederics Tucson, AZ picturethisfilm@email.com

MODERATOR NOTE: Try the Leo Baeck Institute's on line catalogue:

<http://www.lbi.org/>


SEcond document on Kalinovka #ukraine

Rose Feldman <rosef@...>
 

Dear Mikhail,

Something is wrong with your email. I got your letter and my reply to you
bounces.

The second document is posted at
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Kalinovka/Rab-elect.html

Rose Feldman


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine SEcond document on Kalinovka #ukraine

Rose Feldman <rosef@...>
 

Dear Mikhail,

Something is wrong with your email. I got your letter and my reply to you
bounces.

The second document is posted at
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Kalinovka/Rab-elect.html

Rose Feldman


Novoalexandrovskyi, Kaunas, Vydzka,Baban? #belarus

Yendor62@...
 

Dear Genners,

I am sending this at the suggestion of Dave Fox. For all of you who read
this posting a couple of days ago on the JewishGen site, my apologies for
repeating myself.

A few days ago, I received a translation of the Russian army service
record for my grandfather, Henoch ABELOWITZ. On the advice of the moderator
I am not sending the entire translation, due to its length.

I haven't had time to do my homework on this, but the places listed above
are mentioned in the papers. He was a rifleman in the 2nd Eastern Siberian
rifle regiment ( 1894 - 1899), and was admitted to and discharged >from
service in Novoalexandrovskyi Uyezd, City or village Vydzka, Gubernia
Kovenskaya (Kovno - now Kaunas, Lithuania). Also mentioned is the city
Niko'sk_Ussuriiskyi.

At one point he was permitted to travel to the city of Vil'na, and went to
Ekaterinslav (which is where I thought he originally came from). Uman and
Baban are also mentioned.

I have received numerous e-mails >from people with information about the
locations of most of these towns, so please don't go to the trouble of
looking them up for me.

If anyone is interested in seeing copies of the complete translations,
I'll be happy to e-mail them privately. I also have similar papers for my
other grandfather, Michel Leizer TROYANKER/TROIANSKY, who served in the 73rd
infantry Crimea's His Emperor's Highnesses Grand Princes Alexander
Mikhailovitch's regiment (1891-1902). the only unfamiliar place name in that
set is a city called Baturin. (He came >from the Uman area.)

Also, for the information of those of you who are looking for your own
family's army redords, I cannot help at all. These papers were found among
my family's old pictures, and have been hanging around unseen for decades
until now.
Thank you,
Toby (RABINOWITZ) RODNEY
Apex, NC
yendor62@aol.com
ABELOWITZ, TROIANSKY, SUCHOWITZKY, RUDNITZKY, HOCHBERG


Belarus SIG #Belarus Novoalexandrovskyi, Kaunas, Vydzka,Baban? #belarus

Yendor62@...
 

Dear Genners,

I am sending this at the suggestion of Dave Fox. For all of you who read
this posting a couple of days ago on the JewishGen site, my apologies for
repeating myself.

A few days ago, I received a translation of the Russian army service
record for my grandfather, Henoch ABELOWITZ. On the advice of the moderator
I am not sending the entire translation, due to its length.

I haven't had time to do my homework on this, but the places listed above
are mentioned in the papers. He was a rifleman in the 2nd Eastern Siberian
rifle regiment ( 1894 - 1899), and was admitted to and discharged >from
service in Novoalexandrovskyi Uyezd, City or village Vydzka, Gubernia
Kovenskaya (Kovno - now Kaunas, Lithuania). Also mentioned is the city
Niko'sk_Ussuriiskyi.

At one point he was permitted to travel to the city of Vil'na, and went to
Ekaterinslav (which is where I thought he originally came from). Uman and
Baban are also mentioned.

I have received numerous e-mails >from people with information about the
locations of most of these towns, so please don't go to the trouble of
looking them up for me.

If anyone is interested in seeing copies of the complete translations,
I'll be happy to e-mail them privately. I also have similar papers for my
other grandfather, Michel Leizer TROYANKER/TROIANSKY, who served in the 73rd
infantry Crimea's His Emperor's Highnesses Grand Princes Alexander
Mikhailovitch's regiment (1891-1902). the only unfamiliar place name in that
set is a city called Baturin. (He came >from the Uman area.)

Also, for the information of those of you who are looking for your own
family's army redords, I cannot help at all. These papers were found among
my family's old pictures, and have been hanging around unseen for decades
until now.
Thank you,
Toby (RABINOWITZ) RODNEY
Apex, NC
yendor62@aol.com
ABELOWITZ, TROIANSKY, SUCHOWITZKY, RUDNITZKY, HOCHBERG