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Thanks for the help! #belarus

Allison Vrolijk <allison_g@...>
 

Thank everyone who responded to me regarding what I
thought was the shtetl Aisenberg. I now know that was
the name of the Rabbi in Mir at the time of my Great
Uncle's birth.

Thanks again,
Allison
Belarus SIG #Belarus Thanks for the help! #belarus

Allison Vrolijk <allison_g@...>
 

Thank everyone who responded to me regarding what I
thought was the shtetl Aisenberg. I now know that was
the name of the Rabbi in Mir at the time of my Great
Uncle's birth.

Thanks again,
Allison
New Mexico Pioneer, Emanuel ROSENWALD #general

Marlene Bishow <mlbishow@...>
 

Fellow Researchers:

I am submitting this request for a friend who is working on her husband's
tree.

There is a fair amount of published information about Emanuel ROSENWALD,
the German-Jewish merchant who settled in Las Vegas, New Mesico sometime
after 1860. He established a thriving business and started what may have
been the first Jewish congregation in that territory.

Emanuel was a fairly prolific writer and left behind journals and letters
(in German) that describe his experience. An interesting and lesser
explored aspect of his life deals with his arrival in NYC in 1853 and
subsequent migration to Baltimore and then to Virginia. Apparently, his
Baltimore uncles were concerned that his NY unlce would keep him in NY, so
they enticed him to Baltimore. Now, who are these Baltimore uncles? In my
friend's research, the record is not clear. She first assumed that the
Baltimore uncles were of the ROSENWALD clan, but it now appears that they
may have been >from his mother's family - GUTMAN. I have turned up a lot of
information about Joel GUTMAN of Baltimore, an importer and retailer of
silks and other fabrics. Was Joel GUTMAN related to Emanuel ROSENWALD?

Apparently Emanuel did not stay in Baltimore for long. He opened a retail
store in Staunton, VA and sold men's clothing. This store failed after a
year and he moved on to open a business in Richmond, VA. In both places, he
sold clothing made by an H. GOODMAN of Baltimore. Had GUTMAN become GOODMAN
and was the "H" for another unlce or was GOODMAN another family?

Any assistance would be appreciated.

Marlene Bishow
Rockville, MD
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen New Mexico Pioneer, Emanuel ROSENWALD #general

Marlene Bishow <mlbishow@...>
 

Fellow Researchers:

I am submitting this request for a friend who is working on her husband's
tree.

There is a fair amount of published information about Emanuel ROSENWALD,
the German-Jewish merchant who settled in Las Vegas, New Mesico sometime
after 1860. He established a thriving business and started what may have
been the first Jewish congregation in that territory.

Emanuel was a fairly prolific writer and left behind journals and letters
(in German) that describe his experience. An interesting and lesser
explored aspect of his life deals with his arrival in NYC in 1853 and
subsequent migration to Baltimore and then to Virginia. Apparently, his
Baltimore uncles were concerned that his NY unlce would keep him in NY, so
they enticed him to Baltimore. Now, who are these Baltimore uncles? In my
friend's research, the record is not clear. She first assumed that the
Baltimore uncles were of the ROSENWALD clan, but it now appears that they
may have been >from his mother's family - GUTMAN. I have turned up a lot of
information about Joel GUTMAN of Baltimore, an importer and retailer of
silks and other fabrics. Was Joel GUTMAN related to Emanuel ROSENWALD?

Apparently Emanuel did not stay in Baltimore for long. He opened a retail
store in Staunton, VA and sold men's clothing. This store failed after a
year and he moved on to open a business in Richmond, VA. In both places, he
sold clothing made by an H. GOODMAN of Baltimore. Had GUTMAN become GOODMAN
and was the "H" for another unlce or was GOODMAN another family?

Any assistance would be appreciated.

Marlene Bishow
Rockville, MD
Re: Righteous of the Nations #general

Tilford Bartman <bartmant@...>
 

Hi,

I've just returned >from Israel where I attended a ceremony at Yad Vashem
to induct the Polish family that saved my cousin Palter Lopata and three
of his friends during the war into the righteous of the nations as
Polish holocaust rescuers. The ceremony was attended by the Danieluk's
surviving daughter Raisa and her two sons who traveled to Israel >from
Poland. The Danieluks lived in a tiny crossroads of Solniki just
Southeast of Bialystok and very near Zabludow. Some of my Lopata family
members >from Israel and the US attended, as well as the three Israeli
daughters of one of the other survivors. It was one of the most
interesting and moving experiences of my life.

The Danieluks are a Russian Orthodox family. Raisa's parents were
simple poor farmers. They were not political at all, but rather
religious. After the end of the war during Easter 1945, the Danileuk's
and the survivors were having a celebration at the Danieluk home when it
was attacked by members of a small partisan group commanded by "The
Eagle" who was >from Zabludow. According to the Danieluks' "The Eagle"
was later hung, and they told us that his intention was to "mix the
blood of the Jews and the Orthodox", as in killing two birds with one
stone?. Raisa's father, sister, one of the holocaust survivors, and four
others were murdered. Raisa's sons are quite successful. One is an
attorney and the other works for Toyota in Warsaw.

The ceremony was covered by the Israeli TV news, and the print press. We
hired a guide and took the Danieluks on a tour of the stations of the
cross in Jerusalem. It was quite exhausting but very interesting. Along
the way several people recognized the Danieluks >from TV and
congratulated them. After the ceremony we had a party at the home of
one of my relatives in Jerusalem where the conversation was very
emotional, with everyone >from the young members of the family to the
older sharing their feelings about the day. Polish, Hebrew, and English
languages were flowing freely. A very strong bond has been formed
between the Danieluk family, my Lopata relatives, and the family of the
other survivors Israel Bramson.

We're still looking for the son of my survivor relative Palter Lopata.
We think he is living somewhere in Poland. We're also looking for any
relatives of survivor Yizhok Koplinsky, and Moshe Flicker.

Bellow I have a link to a webpage where I have the entire story
including photos of the ceremony at Yad Vashem.

http://www.zabludow.com/Paltierstestimony.html

Tilford Bartman
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE:Righteous of the Nations #general

Tilford Bartman <bartmant@...>
 

Hi,

I've just returned >from Israel where I attended a ceremony at Yad Vashem
to induct the Polish family that saved my cousin Palter Lopata and three
of his friends during the war into the righteous of the nations as
Polish holocaust rescuers. The ceremony was attended by the Danieluk's
surviving daughter Raisa and her two sons who traveled to Israel >from
Poland. The Danieluks lived in a tiny crossroads of Solniki just
Southeast of Bialystok and very near Zabludow. Some of my Lopata family
members >from Israel and the US attended, as well as the three Israeli
daughters of one of the other survivors. It was one of the most
interesting and moving experiences of my life.

The Danieluks are a Russian Orthodox family. Raisa's parents were
simple poor farmers. They were not political at all, but rather
religious. After the end of the war during Easter 1945, the Danileuk's
and the survivors were having a celebration at the Danieluk home when it
was attacked by members of a small partisan group commanded by "The
Eagle" who was >from Zabludow. According to the Danieluks' "The Eagle"
was later hung, and they told us that his intention was to "mix the
blood of the Jews and the Orthodox", as in killing two birds with one
stone?. Raisa's father, sister, one of the holocaust survivors, and four
others were murdered. Raisa's sons are quite successful. One is an
attorney and the other works for Toyota in Warsaw.

The ceremony was covered by the Israeli TV news, and the print press. We
hired a guide and took the Danieluks on a tour of the stations of the
cross in Jerusalem. It was quite exhausting but very interesting. Along
the way several people recognized the Danieluks >from TV and
congratulated them. After the ceremony we had a party at the home of
one of my relatives in Jerusalem where the conversation was very
emotional, with everyone >from the young members of the family to the
older sharing their feelings about the day. Polish, Hebrew, and English
languages were flowing freely. A very strong bond has been formed
between the Danieluk family, my Lopata relatives, and the family of the
other survivors Israel Bramson.

We're still looking for the son of my survivor relative Palter Lopata.
We think he is living somewhere in Poland. We're also looking for any
relatives of survivor Yizhok Koplinsky, and Moshe Flicker.

Bellow I have a link to a webpage where I have the entire story
including photos of the ceremony at Yad Vashem.

http://www.zabludow.com/Paltierstestimony.html

Tilford Bartman
ITKINs from Belarus #general

Pavel Bernshtam <pavelb@...>
 

Hi!

I have created the full list of all known me ITKINs >from Belarus,
including records >from jewishgen databases and private trees arrived to me.

You can access this MS word file at
http://javax.netfirms.com/genealogy/BelarusItkin.doc

Searching for:
ITKIN - Kolyshki, Vitebsk gubernia; Kharkov
BENIOMENSON - Khislavichi (Mstislav uyezd), Kharkov
BERNSHTAM - Akimovka (Melitopol oblast), Melitopol, Povolzh'e
ALTSHULER - Priazovskoe (Pokrovka)(Melitopol oblast) , Melitopol,
Chausy (Mogilev gubernia)
KANTOR - Polonnoe (Volyn gubernia), Baranovka (Volyn gubernia), Zhitomir

Pavel Bernshtam
email: pavelb@identify.com
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen ITKINs from Belarus #general

Pavel Bernshtam <pavelb@...>
 

Hi!

I have created the full list of all known me ITKINs >from Belarus,
including records >from jewishgen databases and private trees arrived to me.

You can access this MS word file at
http://javax.netfirms.com/genealogy/BelarusItkin.doc

Searching for:
ITKIN - Kolyshki, Vitebsk gubernia; Kharkov
BENIOMENSON - Khislavichi (Mstislav uyezd), Kharkov
BERNSHTAM - Akimovka (Melitopol oblast), Melitopol, Povolzh'e
ALTSHULER - Priazovskoe (Pokrovka)(Melitopol oblast) , Melitopol,
Chausy (Mogilev gubernia)
KANTOR - Polonnoe (Volyn gubernia), Baranovka (Volyn gubernia), Zhitomir

Pavel Bernshtam
email: pavelb@identify.com
Lviv Cemeteries #general

Errol Schneegurt
 

While I was searching the International Association of Jewish Genealogical
Societies - Cemetery project - they write about 2 books (below) that
relate to the cemeteries in the city of Lviv.
Has anyone read these books or have seen what information they contain?

Book: Matsevot kodesh vezikhron tsadikim (Holy graves and memorials to the
Just), by G. Suchestov. New York, 1993. 4 volumes in 1 volume (Reprint of
G. Hirtz books, Lvov 1863-1897. Hebrew. S88A2184. Notes: see G. Hirtz
books S38A847 and R70A5484.


Book: Sefer matsevet kodesh. po ba'ir L'vov (Book of holy graves in the
city of L'vov), by G. Suchestov. Ashdod, 1996. 1 volume, Hebrew. S2
96A5718. Notes: Facsimile reproduction of G. Hirtz book S38A847.

Errol Schneegurt LI NY ESLVIV@AOL.COM
Re: Percentage of Jews with Polish heritage #general

Paul M Lieberman <paulmlieberman@...>
 

As part of the discussion of what it means to be "a Jew of Polish
heritage" started by Lilli Sprintz, Arie L. Wishnia raised the issue of
intermarriage:

Just because someone has a Polish sounding name doesn't mean that he/she
is Polish (or has Polish heritage). yes, some people inter-married, but
their families and community would have noting to do with them (I heard
those stories as a kid). Anielewicz was a Jew, so was Berko Joselowicz
I don't think this is what Lilli is wondering about. I think she meant
"Polish Jew", not a Jew who has gentile Polish ancestors. Michael
Bernet's comment on this are most relevant, but I think the question of
what percentage of Jews "have someone in their family of Polish
heritage" is still of interest and not totally unanswerable, though
certainly not a question that can be answered with mathematical certainty.

I have often mulled over the question of what influences were exerted on
me by the places that my ancestors spent their lives. My mothers family
were "Hungarian Jews", and, like most non-Hasidic Jews in Hungary proper
(in other words, not in Galicia), they were more assimilated than my
grandmother's family in Galicia, or my great-grandparents in Odessa. So
I grew up hearing Hungarian music and spoken Hungarian, and eating
Hungarian food, and wondering why my Galizianer grandmother's stuffed
cabbage tasted so different >from my Hungarian grandmother's (it wasn't
because the recipe was in Yiddish). If asked, I'd say I'm 100% American,
100% Jew, 50% Hungarian, 25% Galizianer and 25% Russian Jew.

As we JewishGenners have expanded our understanding of our Yiddishe
roots over the last decade, it's become clear that most of our families
moved around, some a great deal, some not so much. It's become clear to
me that I will never be able to trace my Hungarian family beyond the
early nineteenth century. If I were able, though, I'm sure I would find
that my ancestors came to Hungary >from other parts of the world (Spain?
Turkey?) sometime before 1800, and possibly not long before. And then,
between 1890 and 1921, all my immediate ancestors came to America. So,
even though they may have been in Hungary less than 200 years, Hungarian
culture has made an indelible mark on me, on who I am and how I identify
myself.

Let's keep asking these questions, and looking for the answers that are
meaningful to us and our lives.

- Paul M Lieberman
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Lviv Cemeteries #general

Errol Schneegurt
 

While I was searching the International Association of Jewish Genealogical
Societies - Cemetery project - they write about 2 books (below) that
relate to the cemeteries in the city of Lviv.
Has anyone read these books or have seen what information they contain?

Book: Matsevot kodesh vezikhron tsadikim (Holy graves and memorials to the
Just), by G. Suchestov. New York, 1993. 4 volumes in 1 volume (Reprint of
G. Hirtz books, Lvov 1863-1897. Hebrew. S88A2184. Notes: see G. Hirtz
books S38A847 and R70A5484.


Book: Sefer matsevet kodesh. po ba'ir L'vov (Book of holy graves in the
city of L'vov), by G. Suchestov. Ashdod, 1996. 1 volume, Hebrew. S2
96A5718. Notes: Facsimile reproduction of G. Hirtz book S38A847.

Errol Schneegurt LI NY ESLVIV@AOL.COM
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Percentage of Jews with Polish heritage #general

Paul M Lieberman <paulmlieberman@...>
 

As part of the discussion of what it means to be "a Jew of Polish
heritage" started by Lilli Sprintz, Arie L. Wishnia raised the issue of
intermarriage:

Just because someone has a Polish sounding name doesn't mean that he/she
is Polish (or has Polish heritage). yes, some people inter-married, but
their families and community would have noting to do with them (I heard
those stories as a kid). Anielewicz was a Jew, so was Berko Joselowicz
I don't think this is what Lilli is wondering about. I think she meant
"Polish Jew", not a Jew who has gentile Polish ancestors. Michael
Bernet's comment on this are most relevant, but I think the question of
what percentage of Jews "have someone in their family of Polish
heritage" is still of interest and not totally unanswerable, though
certainly not a question that can be answered with mathematical certainty.

I have often mulled over the question of what influences were exerted on
me by the places that my ancestors spent their lives. My mothers family
were "Hungarian Jews", and, like most non-Hasidic Jews in Hungary proper
(in other words, not in Galicia), they were more assimilated than my
grandmother's family in Galicia, or my great-grandparents in Odessa. So
I grew up hearing Hungarian music and spoken Hungarian, and eating
Hungarian food, and wondering why my Galizianer grandmother's stuffed
cabbage tasted so different >from my Hungarian grandmother's (it wasn't
because the recipe was in Yiddish). If asked, I'd say I'm 100% American,
100% Jew, 50% Hungarian, 25% Galizianer and 25% Russian Jew.

As we JewishGenners have expanded our understanding of our Yiddishe
roots over the last decade, it's become clear that most of our families
moved around, some a great deal, some not so much. It's become clear to
me that I will never be able to trace my Hungarian family beyond the
early nineteenth century. If I were able, though, I'm sure I would find
that my ancestors came to Hungary >from other parts of the world (Spain?
Turkey?) sometime before 1800, and possibly not long before. And then,
between 1890 and 1921, all my immediate ancestors came to America. So,
even though they may have been in Hungary less than 200 years, Hungarian
culture has made an indelible mark on me, on who I am and how I identify
myself.

Let's keep asking these questions, and looking for the answers that are
meaningful to us and our lives.

- Paul M Lieberman
Location of Cemetery in York, PA #general

Marlene Bishow <mlbishow@...>
 

In about 1908, a baby boy was born to Charles and Tillie SOMMERS who were
living in Gettysburg, PA. The baby did not live long and he was buried "in
the old Jewish cemetery in York."

Does anyone know what cemetery the family stories may have been referring
to and where it is located today? My husband is the oldest son of Lillian
SOMMERS BISHOW, the third daughter of Charles and Tillie SOMMERS. The
family eventually moved to Taneytown, MD and then to Baltimore.

Regards,
Marlene BISHOW
Rockville, MD
Researching:
HANTMAN/GANTMAN: Belarus >NYC > CT
KATZ: Zhuravno, Galicia > NYC
DEUTSCHER, NUSSBAUM: Rozniatow, Galicia > NYC
PETT, SINGER: Belarus (Grodno?) > NY > CT
SOMMERS: Lithuania > Whales > Gettysburg >Baltimore
BISHOW (BISHOVSKY) : Russia (Ukraine?) > New Orleans > Baltimore
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Location of Cemetery in York, PA #general

Marlene Bishow <mlbishow@...>
 

In about 1908, a baby boy was born to Charles and Tillie SOMMERS who were
living in Gettysburg, PA. The baby did not live long and he was buried "in
the old Jewish cemetery in York."

Does anyone know what cemetery the family stories may have been referring
to and where it is located today? My husband is the oldest son of Lillian
SOMMERS BISHOW, the third daughter of Charles and Tillie SOMMERS. The
family eventually moved to Taneytown, MD and then to Baltimore.

Regards,
Marlene BISHOW
Rockville, MD
Researching:
HANTMAN/GANTMAN: Belarus >NYC > CT
KATZ: Zhuravno, Galicia > NYC
DEUTSCHER, NUSSBAUM: Rozniatow, Galicia > NYC
PETT, SINGER: Belarus (Grodno?) > NY > CT
SOMMERS: Lithuania > Whales > Gettysburg >Baltimore
BISHOW (BISHOVSKY) : Russia (Ukraine?) > New Orleans > Baltimore
JGS Broward County, Florida 15th Anniversary Celebration #general

kasakaplan@...
 

JGS Broward County, Florida 15th Anniversary Celebration

Fifteen years and getting bigger and better. Our membership is at its
highest and growing, our programming has surpassed all expectations, our
library shelves are filled with some of the finest resources and
enthusiasm is at its peak.

On Sunday, December 14, 2003, at the Tropical Acres Restaurant in Davie we
will hold a celebration recognizing our 15 years of existence. We will be
honoring our founding President, Bernard Kouchel for all his work on
behalf of JGSBC and the IAJGS. Bernard is the creator of Viewmate,
whereby pictures can be scanned into a website, easily viewed and
questions about their contents answered.

A delicious luncheon will be served, followed by our outstanding keynote
speaker, Dr. Henry Abramson, associate professor of history and Judaic
studies at Florida Atlantic University. His topic, "Two Jews, Three
Opinions" will help you bring your ancestors to life and understand what
forces drove them to leave their homes and sail across the Atlantic to an
unknown land.

We welcome all former members, visitors to sunny Florida or anyone who
would like to share our simcha and spend an enlightening and wonderful
afternoon.

For any additional information, driving instructions or transportation,
please call 954 791-4701 or visit our website at www.jgsbroward.org. A
printable copy of the invitation is available on our website. Or, sent a
check for $20.00 per person indicating your choice of chicken or salmon to
BCJGS, P.O. Box 17251, Plantation, FL 33318.


Elaine L. Kaplan
Secretary
Coconut Creek, Florida
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGS Broward County, Florida 15th Anniversary Celebration #general

kasakaplan@...
 

JGS Broward County, Florida 15th Anniversary Celebration

Fifteen years and getting bigger and better. Our membership is at its
highest and growing, our programming has surpassed all expectations, our
library shelves are filled with some of the finest resources and
enthusiasm is at its peak.

On Sunday, December 14, 2003, at the Tropical Acres Restaurant in Davie we
will hold a celebration recognizing our 15 years of existence. We will be
honoring our founding President, Bernard Kouchel for all his work on
behalf of JGSBC and the IAJGS. Bernard is the creator of Viewmate,
whereby pictures can be scanned into a website, easily viewed and
questions about their contents answered.

A delicious luncheon will be served, followed by our outstanding keynote
speaker, Dr. Henry Abramson, associate professor of history and Judaic
studies at Florida Atlantic University. His topic, "Two Jews, Three
Opinions" will help you bring your ancestors to life and understand what
forces drove them to leave their homes and sail across the Atlantic to an
unknown land.

We welcome all former members, visitors to sunny Florida or anyone who
would like to share our simcha and spend an enlightening and wonderful
afternoon.

For any additional information, driving instructions or transportation,
please call 954 791-4701 or visit our website at www.jgsbroward.org. A
printable copy of the invitation is available on our website. Or, sent a
check for $20.00 per person indicating your choice of chicken or salmon to
BCJGS, P.O. Box 17251, Plantation, FL 33318.


Elaine L. Kaplan
Secretary
Coconut Creek, Florida
JGS Pittsburgh Nov. Meeting #general

Rae M. Barent <RaeBarent@...>
 

JGS Pittsburgh November Meeting
Date: Monday, Nov. 17, 2003
Time: 7:30 P.M.
Place: Holocaust Center
5738 Darlington Rd.
Pittsburgh, PA 15217

This promises to be a very special meeting. Abe Anouchi will be giving
a lecture and Power Point presentation on Sephardic Jewry in general and
his experiences in researching his family tree in particular. Beginning
with his family roots in Toledo, Spain in the 15th Century and ranging
through Toledo, Cordoba and other cities in Spain, his research took him
to Israel, France and Spain. Mr. Anouchi has written two books on the
subject of Sephardi tradition...one in Hebrew and one in English.

The formal meeting will start promptly at 7:30. As always, informal
networking begins at 7.

Rae Barent
Programming
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGS Pittsburgh Nov. Meeting #general

Rae M. Barent <RaeBarent@...>
 

JGS Pittsburgh November Meeting
Date: Monday, Nov. 17, 2003
Time: 7:30 P.M.
Place: Holocaust Center
5738 Darlington Rd.
Pittsburgh, PA 15217

This promises to be a very special meeting. Abe Anouchi will be giving
a lecture and Power Point presentation on Sephardic Jewry in general and
his experiences in researching his family tree in particular. Beginning
with his family roots in Toledo, Spain in the 15th Century and ranging
through Toledo, Cordoba and other cities in Spain, his research took him
to Israel, France and Spain. Mr. Anouchi has written two books on the
subject of Sephardi tradition...one in Hebrew and one in English.

The formal meeting will start promptly at 7:30. As always, informal
networking begins at 7.

Rae Barent
Programming
Re: Beth Haknesseth Anshe Alshan V'Anshe Iwie #lithuania

EilatGordn@...
 

In a message dated 11/6/03 4:10:40 PM Pacific Standard Time, Judith27@aol.com
writes:

After searching through the ALD and the Shtetls of Lithuania, the best
candidates for these two towns appear to be Alsenai and Ivie. If anyone has
any additional information about either of these two shtetls, or about this
NYC shul, please contact me.
Both Olshany and Ivye are found today in the western part of Belarus near the border with Lithuania. Before the first World war they were part of the Vilna gubernia and in 1920 together with Vilna (that was prior to that the capital city of Lithuania) became part of Poland. In 1939 the area was taken by the Soviet Union (Vilna was returned to Lithuania but shortly after Lithuania was annexed by the Soviet Union until June of 1941 when the Germans invaded the Soviet Union.

Dvora Helberg (first cousin of my mother in law) wrote a story about Olshany during the first World war, you could find it as well as pictures and maps of Olshany at
http://www.geocities.com/biography1915/e_olshan.html

You could find the translated Yizkor book of Ivye, Lida Uzed, Vilna gubernia at
http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/ivye/ivye.html

Eilat Gordin Levitan
Los Angeles
Re: Where is Breslev? #lithuania

Kovitz, Sonia <Sonia.Kovitz@...>
 

Breslau is the German name of the Polish town of Wroclaw.
Sonia

I have seen some 1845 Family list that shows the Town: Braslav, Uyezd:
Zarasai, Gubernia: Kaunas but I have not been able to find this using
the ShtetlSeeker. The closest I can get to is Braslav,
Belarus which is not far >from the Lithuanian, Latvian, Belarus border.
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