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Lviv Cemeteries #general

Errol Schneegurt
 

While I was searching the International Association of Jewish Genealogical
Societies - Cemetery project - they write about 2 books (below) that
relate to the cemeteries in the city of Lviv.
Has anyone read these books or have seen what information they contain?

Book: Matsevot kodesh vezikhron tsadikim (Holy graves and memorials to the
Just), by G. Suchestov. New York, 1993. 4 volumes in 1 volume (Reprint of
G. Hirtz books, Lvov 1863-1897. Hebrew. S88A2184. Notes: see G. Hirtz
books S38A847 and R70A5484.


Book: Sefer matsevet kodesh. po ba'ir L'vov (Book of holy graves in the
city of L'vov), by G. Suchestov. Ashdod, 1996. 1 volume, Hebrew. S2
96A5718. Notes: Facsimile reproduction of G. Hirtz book S38A847.

Errol Schneegurt LI NY ESLVIV@AOL.COM


Re: Percentage of Jews with Polish heritage #general

Paul M Lieberman <paulmlieberman@...>
 

As part of the discussion of what it means to be "a Jew of Polish
heritage" started by Lilli Sprintz, Arie L. Wishnia raised the issue of
intermarriage:

Just because someone has a Polish sounding name doesn't mean that he/she
is Polish (or has Polish heritage). yes, some people inter-married, but
their families and community would have noting to do with them (I heard
those stories as a kid). Anielewicz was a Jew, so was Berko Joselowicz
I don't think this is what Lilli is wondering about. I think she meant
"Polish Jew", not a Jew who has gentile Polish ancestors. Michael
Bernet's comment on this are most relevant, but I think the question of
what percentage of Jews "have someone in their family of Polish
heritage" is still of interest and not totally unanswerable, though
certainly not a question that can be answered with mathematical certainty.

I have often mulled over the question of what influences were exerted on
me by the places that my ancestors spent their lives. My mothers family
were "Hungarian Jews", and, like most non-Hasidic Jews in Hungary proper
(in other words, not in Galicia), they were more assimilated than my
grandmother's family in Galicia, or my great-grandparents in Odessa. So
I grew up hearing Hungarian music and spoken Hungarian, and eating
Hungarian food, and wondering why my Galizianer grandmother's stuffed
cabbage tasted so different >from my Hungarian grandmother's (it wasn't
because the recipe was in Yiddish). If asked, I'd say I'm 100% American,
100% Jew, 50% Hungarian, 25% Galizianer and 25% Russian Jew.

As we JewishGenners have expanded our understanding of our Yiddishe
roots over the last decade, it's become clear that most of our families
moved around, some a great deal, some not so much. It's become clear to
me that I will never be able to trace my Hungarian family beyond the
early nineteenth century. If I were able, though, I'm sure I would find
that my ancestors came to Hungary >from other parts of the world (Spain?
Turkey?) sometime before 1800, and possibly not long before. And then,
between 1890 and 1921, all my immediate ancestors came to America. So,
even though they may have been in Hungary less than 200 years, Hungarian
culture has made an indelible mark on me, on who I am and how I identify
myself.

Let's keep asking these questions, and looking for the answers that are
meaningful to us and our lives.

- Paul M Lieberman


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Lviv Cemeteries #general

Errol Schneegurt
 

While I was searching the International Association of Jewish Genealogical
Societies - Cemetery project - they write about 2 books (below) that
relate to the cemeteries in the city of Lviv.
Has anyone read these books or have seen what information they contain?

Book: Matsevot kodesh vezikhron tsadikim (Holy graves and memorials to the
Just), by G. Suchestov. New York, 1993. 4 volumes in 1 volume (Reprint of
G. Hirtz books, Lvov 1863-1897. Hebrew. S88A2184. Notes: see G. Hirtz
books S38A847 and R70A5484.


Book: Sefer matsevet kodesh. po ba'ir L'vov (Book of holy graves in the
city of L'vov), by G. Suchestov. Ashdod, 1996. 1 volume, Hebrew. S2
96A5718. Notes: Facsimile reproduction of G. Hirtz book S38A847.

Errol Schneegurt LI NY ESLVIV@AOL.COM


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Percentage of Jews with Polish heritage #general

Paul M Lieberman <paulmlieberman@...>
 

As part of the discussion of what it means to be "a Jew of Polish
heritage" started by Lilli Sprintz, Arie L. Wishnia raised the issue of
intermarriage:

Just because someone has a Polish sounding name doesn't mean that he/she
is Polish (or has Polish heritage). yes, some people inter-married, but
their families and community would have noting to do with them (I heard
those stories as a kid). Anielewicz was a Jew, so was Berko Joselowicz
I don't think this is what Lilli is wondering about. I think she meant
"Polish Jew", not a Jew who has gentile Polish ancestors. Michael
Bernet's comment on this are most relevant, but I think the question of
what percentage of Jews "have someone in their family of Polish
heritage" is still of interest and not totally unanswerable, though
certainly not a question that can be answered with mathematical certainty.

I have often mulled over the question of what influences were exerted on
me by the places that my ancestors spent their lives. My mothers family
were "Hungarian Jews", and, like most non-Hasidic Jews in Hungary proper
(in other words, not in Galicia), they were more assimilated than my
grandmother's family in Galicia, or my great-grandparents in Odessa. So
I grew up hearing Hungarian music and spoken Hungarian, and eating
Hungarian food, and wondering why my Galizianer grandmother's stuffed
cabbage tasted so different >from my Hungarian grandmother's (it wasn't
because the recipe was in Yiddish). If asked, I'd say I'm 100% American,
100% Jew, 50% Hungarian, 25% Galizianer and 25% Russian Jew.

As we JewishGenners have expanded our understanding of our Yiddishe
roots over the last decade, it's become clear that most of our families
moved around, some a great deal, some not so much. It's become clear to
me that I will never be able to trace my Hungarian family beyond the
early nineteenth century. If I were able, though, I'm sure I would find
that my ancestors came to Hungary >from other parts of the world (Spain?
Turkey?) sometime before 1800, and possibly not long before. And then,
between 1890 and 1921, all my immediate ancestors came to America. So,
even though they may have been in Hungary less than 200 years, Hungarian
culture has made an indelible mark on me, on who I am and how I identify
myself.

Let's keep asking these questions, and looking for the answers that are
meaningful to us and our lives.

- Paul M Lieberman


Location of Cemetery in York, PA #general

Marlene Bishow <mlbishow@...>
 

In about 1908, a baby boy was born to Charles and Tillie SOMMERS who were
living in Gettysburg, PA. The baby did not live long and he was buried "in
the old Jewish cemetery in York."

Does anyone know what cemetery the family stories may have been referring
to and where it is located today? My husband is the oldest son of Lillian
SOMMERS BISHOW, the third daughter of Charles and Tillie SOMMERS. The
family eventually moved to Taneytown, MD and then to Baltimore.

Regards,
Marlene BISHOW
Rockville, MD
Researching:
HANTMAN/GANTMAN: Belarus >NYC > CT
KATZ: Zhuravno, Galicia > NYC
DEUTSCHER, NUSSBAUM: Rozniatow, Galicia > NYC
PETT, SINGER: Belarus (Grodno?) > NY > CT
SOMMERS: Lithuania > Whales > Gettysburg >Baltimore
BISHOW (BISHOVSKY) : Russia (Ukraine?) > New Orleans > Baltimore


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Location of Cemetery in York, PA #general

Marlene Bishow <mlbishow@...>
 

In about 1908, a baby boy was born to Charles and Tillie SOMMERS who were
living in Gettysburg, PA. The baby did not live long and he was buried "in
the old Jewish cemetery in York."

Does anyone know what cemetery the family stories may have been referring
to and where it is located today? My husband is the oldest son of Lillian
SOMMERS BISHOW, the third daughter of Charles and Tillie SOMMERS. The
family eventually moved to Taneytown, MD and then to Baltimore.

Regards,
Marlene BISHOW
Rockville, MD
Researching:
HANTMAN/GANTMAN: Belarus >NYC > CT
KATZ: Zhuravno, Galicia > NYC
DEUTSCHER, NUSSBAUM: Rozniatow, Galicia > NYC
PETT, SINGER: Belarus (Grodno?) > NY > CT
SOMMERS: Lithuania > Whales > Gettysburg >Baltimore
BISHOW (BISHOVSKY) : Russia (Ukraine?) > New Orleans > Baltimore


JGS Broward County, Florida 15th Anniversary Celebration #general

kasakaplan@...
 

JGS Broward County, Florida 15th Anniversary Celebration

Fifteen years and getting bigger and better. Our membership is at its
highest and growing, our programming has surpassed all expectations, our
library shelves are filled with some of the finest resources and
enthusiasm is at its peak.

On Sunday, December 14, 2003, at the Tropical Acres Restaurant in Davie we
will hold a celebration recognizing our 15 years of existence. We will be
honoring our founding President, Bernard Kouchel for all his work on
behalf of JGSBC and the IAJGS. Bernard is the creator of Viewmate,
whereby pictures can be scanned into a website, easily viewed and
questions about their contents answered.

A delicious luncheon will be served, followed by our outstanding keynote
speaker, Dr. Henry Abramson, associate professor of history and Judaic
studies at Florida Atlantic University. His topic, "Two Jews, Three
Opinions" will help you bring your ancestors to life and understand what
forces drove them to leave their homes and sail across the Atlantic to an
unknown land.

We welcome all former members, visitors to sunny Florida or anyone who
would like to share our simcha and spend an enlightening and wonderful
afternoon.

For any additional information, driving instructions or transportation,
please call 954 791-4701 or visit our website at www.jgsbroward.org. A
printable copy of the invitation is available on our website. Or, sent a
check for $20.00 per person indicating your choice of chicken or salmon to
BCJGS, P.O. Box 17251, Plantation, FL 33318.


Elaine L. Kaplan
Secretary
Coconut Creek, Florida


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGS Broward County, Florida 15th Anniversary Celebration #general

kasakaplan@...
 

JGS Broward County, Florida 15th Anniversary Celebration

Fifteen years and getting bigger and better. Our membership is at its
highest and growing, our programming has surpassed all expectations, our
library shelves are filled with some of the finest resources and
enthusiasm is at its peak.

On Sunday, December 14, 2003, at the Tropical Acres Restaurant in Davie we
will hold a celebration recognizing our 15 years of existence. We will be
honoring our founding President, Bernard Kouchel for all his work on
behalf of JGSBC and the IAJGS. Bernard is the creator of Viewmate,
whereby pictures can be scanned into a website, easily viewed and
questions about their contents answered.

A delicious luncheon will be served, followed by our outstanding keynote
speaker, Dr. Henry Abramson, associate professor of history and Judaic
studies at Florida Atlantic University. His topic, "Two Jews, Three
Opinions" will help you bring your ancestors to life and understand what
forces drove them to leave their homes and sail across the Atlantic to an
unknown land.

We welcome all former members, visitors to sunny Florida or anyone who
would like to share our simcha and spend an enlightening and wonderful
afternoon.

For any additional information, driving instructions or transportation,
please call 954 791-4701 or visit our website at www.jgsbroward.org. A
printable copy of the invitation is available on our website. Or, sent a
check for $20.00 per person indicating your choice of chicken or salmon to
BCJGS, P.O. Box 17251, Plantation, FL 33318.


Elaine L. Kaplan
Secretary
Coconut Creek, Florida


JGS Pittsburgh Nov. Meeting #general

Rae M. Barent <RaeBarent@...>
 

JGS Pittsburgh November Meeting
Date: Monday, Nov. 17, 2003
Time: 7:30 P.M.
Place: Holocaust Center
5738 Darlington Rd.
Pittsburgh, PA 15217

This promises to be a very special meeting. Abe Anouchi will be giving
a lecture and Power Point presentation on Sephardic Jewry in general and
his experiences in researching his family tree in particular. Beginning
with his family roots in Toledo, Spain in the 15th Century and ranging
through Toledo, Cordoba and other cities in Spain, his research took him
to Israel, France and Spain. Mr. Anouchi has written two books on the
subject of Sephardi tradition...one in Hebrew and one in English.

The formal meeting will start promptly at 7:30. As always, informal
networking begins at 7.

Rae Barent
Programming


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGS Pittsburgh Nov. Meeting #general

Rae M. Barent <RaeBarent@...>
 

JGS Pittsburgh November Meeting
Date: Monday, Nov. 17, 2003
Time: 7:30 P.M.
Place: Holocaust Center
5738 Darlington Rd.
Pittsburgh, PA 15217

This promises to be a very special meeting. Abe Anouchi will be giving
a lecture and Power Point presentation on Sephardic Jewry in general and
his experiences in researching his family tree in particular. Beginning
with his family roots in Toledo, Spain in the 15th Century and ranging
through Toledo, Cordoba and other cities in Spain, his research took him
to Israel, France and Spain. Mr. Anouchi has written two books on the
subject of Sephardi tradition...one in Hebrew and one in English.

The formal meeting will start promptly at 7:30. As always, informal
networking begins at 7.

Rae Barent
Programming


Re: Beth Haknesseth Anshe Alshan V'Anshe Iwie #lithuania

EilatGordn@...
 

In a message dated 11/6/03 4:10:40 PM Pacific Standard Time, Judith27@aol.com
writes:

After searching through the ALD and the Shtetls of Lithuania, the best
candidates for these two towns appear to be Alsenai and Ivie. If anyone has
any additional information about either of these two shtetls, or about this
NYC shul, please contact me.
Both Olshany and Ivye are found today in the western part of Belarus near the border with Lithuania. Before the first World war they were part of the Vilna gubernia and in 1920 together with Vilna (that was prior to that the capital city of Lithuania) became part of Poland. In 1939 the area was taken by the Soviet Union (Vilna was returned to Lithuania but shortly after Lithuania was annexed by the Soviet Union until June of 1941 when the Germans invaded the Soviet Union.

Dvora Helberg (first cousin of my mother in law) wrote a story about Olshany during the first World war, you could find it as well as pictures and maps of Olshany at
http://www.geocities.com/biography1915/e_olshan.html

You could find the translated Yizkor book of Ivye, Lida Uzed, Vilna gubernia at
http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/ivye/ivye.html

Eilat Gordin Levitan
Los Angeles


Re: Where is Breslev? #lithuania

Kovitz, Sonia <Sonia.Kovitz@...>
 

Breslau is the German name of the Polish town of Wroclaw.
Sonia

I have seen some 1845 Family list that shows the Town: Braslav, Uyezd:
Zarasai, Gubernia: Kaunas but I have not been able to find this using
the ShtetlSeeker. The closest I can get to is Braslav,
Belarus which is not far >from the Lithuanian, Latvian, Belarus border.


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Re: Beth Haknesseth Anshe Alshan V'Anshe Iwie #lithuania

EilatGordn@...
 

In a message dated 11/6/03 4:10:40 PM Pacific Standard Time, Judith27@aol.com
writes:

After searching through the ALD and the Shtetls of Lithuania, the best
candidates for these two towns appear to be Alsenai and Ivie. If anyone has
any additional information about either of these two shtetls, or about this
NYC shul, please contact me.
Both Olshany and Ivye are found today in the western part of Belarus near the border with Lithuania. Before the first World war they were part of the Vilna gubernia and in 1920 together with Vilna (that was prior to that the capital city of Lithuania) became part of Poland. In 1939 the area was taken by the Soviet Union (Vilna was returned to Lithuania but shortly after Lithuania was annexed by the Soviet Union until June of 1941 when the Germans invaded the Soviet Union.

Dvora Helberg (first cousin of my mother in law) wrote a story about Olshany during the first World war, you could find it as well as pictures and maps of Olshany at
http://www.geocities.com/biography1915/e_olshan.html

You could find the translated Yizkor book of Ivye, Lida Uzed, Vilna gubernia at
http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/ivye/ivye.html

Eilat Gordin Levitan
Los Angeles


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania RE: Where is Breslev? #lithuania

Kovitz, Sonia <Sonia.Kovitz@...>
 

Breslau is the German name of the Polish town of Wroclaw.
Sonia

I have seen some 1845 Family list that shows the Town: Braslav, Uyezd:
Zarasai, Gubernia: Kaunas but I have not been able to find this using
the ShtetlSeeker. The closest I can get to is Braslav,
Belarus which is not far >from the Lithuanian, Latvian, Belarus border.


Vasilishok #lithuania

Aryeh Lopiansky <alop@...>
 

I am looking for the exact whereabouts of Vasilishok, and info about it.
However, on the Shtetel list it records Vasilishok as being in the Uyezd
and Guberna of Kaunus, but when I search discussion groups it records
Vasilishok as being in the Uyezd of Lida and in Grodno Guberna. Where is my mistake?
Thanks.

Aryeh Lopiansky

Researching LOPIANSKY and KUNES, Slabodka.


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Vasilishok #lithuania

Aryeh Lopiansky <alop@...>
 

I am looking for the exact whereabouts of Vasilishok, and info about it.
However, on the Shtetel list it records Vasilishok as being in the Uyezd
and Guberna of Kaunus, but when I search discussion groups it records
Vasilishok as being in the Uyezd of Lida and in Grodno Guberna. Where is my mistake?
Thanks.

Aryeh Lopiansky

Researching LOPIANSKY and KUNES, Slabodka.


Finkelstein, Cohen, Lan from Ponevezys, Pumpian, Seta #lithuania

SingingTM@...
 

I have identified some exciting information about my FINKELSTEIN, COHEN, and LAN families >from Panevezys, Pumpenai, and Seta.
I am looking for information about descendants or about the families.

My COHEN family centers on Sadie COHEN, a cousin of Bertha (Bryna) LAN
Yudelowitz, my grandmother. Sadie lived in Philadelphia and was >from Ponevezh, now Panevezys. our LAN family was last in Pumpenai but records are primarily in the Ponevezh registers.

I now have more information about the COHEN family. Sadie's parents were
Rocha Malka LAN (daughter of David LAN, the father of our GGF Akiva LAN and son of the elder Akiva LAN) and Shmuel Ber (or Abel) KAGAN (COHEN) (son of Berel-Rubin KAGAN). Shmuel was on leave >from service in the Russian army as a private in the Ustug regiment when he and Rocha Malka were married on Jan 24 1875. Sadie (known as Sheina Leiah COHEN) was born in 1897, and was the older sister of Israel, born Oct 2 1902, and Ita-Leah born Jan 26, 1900.

I now have a new COHEN name and another surname to add to the mix. When
Benjamin (Berl) Lane (brother of Bertha) arrived in New York as a single young man of age 17 in May 1904, he indicated that he had a cousin Abram FINKELSTEIN living on Monroe Street in Manhattan. Previously, I had been stymied in researching this cousin because there were 2-3 dozen Abe/Abram/Abraham FINKELSTEINs living in New York at the time.

However, with persistence, I found our guy in the 1905 New York State Census at the correct address, 161/63 Monroe Street, Manhattan. I found him with a wife, Lena, and nine children!! His children were Louis, Sam, Annie, Molly, Isaac, Celia, Jacob, Rosie, and Ida.

I also found that the family had moved to Brooklyn by the time of the 1910
U.S. Census. They lived at 1857 Park Place, and reported that they had
originally had ten children (!!) and eight were surviving at the time of the Census, seven living with the family at the Brooklyn address. The wife was listed as Lenah, and children as Sam, Louis, Israel, Jake, Ida, Mollie, and Celia. Abraham was a presser.

I found that Abraham died in 1914. On his death certificate were listed his parents' names, Isaac and Zissel COHEN FINKELSTEIN, hence the Cohen connection, presumably to Sadie's family.

Exciting news, leaving lots of room for further investigation.

Jeff Miller
Brookeville, Maryland
SingingTM@aol.com

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Anyone with matching family information, please respond privately.


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Finkelstein, Cohen, Lan from Ponevezys, Pumpian, Seta #lithuania

SingingTM@...
 

I have identified some exciting information about my FINKELSTEIN, COHEN, and LAN families >from Panevezys, Pumpenai, and Seta.
I am looking for information about descendants or about the families.

My COHEN family centers on Sadie COHEN, a cousin of Bertha (Bryna) LAN
Yudelowitz, my grandmother. Sadie lived in Philadelphia and was >from Ponevezh, now Panevezys. our LAN family was last in Pumpenai but records are primarily in the Ponevezh registers.

I now have more information about the COHEN family. Sadie's parents were
Rocha Malka LAN (daughter of David LAN, the father of our GGF Akiva LAN and son of the elder Akiva LAN) and Shmuel Ber (or Abel) KAGAN (COHEN) (son of Berel-Rubin KAGAN). Shmuel was on leave >from service in the Russian army as a private in the Ustug regiment when he and Rocha Malka were married on Jan 24 1875. Sadie (known as Sheina Leiah COHEN) was born in 1897, and was the older sister of Israel, born Oct 2 1902, and Ita-Leah born Jan 26, 1900.

I now have a new COHEN name and another surname to add to the mix. When
Benjamin (Berl) Lane (brother of Bertha) arrived in New York as a single young man of age 17 in May 1904, he indicated that he had a cousin Abram FINKELSTEIN living on Monroe Street in Manhattan. Previously, I had been stymied in researching this cousin because there were 2-3 dozen Abe/Abram/Abraham FINKELSTEINs living in New York at the time.

However, with persistence, I found our guy in the 1905 New York State Census at the correct address, 161/63 Monroe Street, Manhattan. I found him with a wife, Lena, and nine children!! His children were Louis, Sam, Annie, Molly, Isaac, Celia, Jacob, Rosie, and Ida.

I also found that the family had moved to Brooklyn by the time of the 1910
U.S. Census. They lived at 1857 Park Place, and reported that they had
originally had ten children (!!) and eight were surviving at the time of the Census, seven living with the family at the Brooklyn address. The wife was listed as Lenah, and children as Sam, Louis, Israel, Jake, Ida, Mollie, and Celia. Abraham was a presser.

I found that Abraham died in 1914. On his death certificate were listed his parents' names, Isaac and Zissel COHEN FINKELSTEIN, hence the Cohen connection, presumably to Sadie's family.

Exciting news, leaving lots of room for further investigation.

Jeff Miller
Brookeville, Maryland
SingingTM@aol.com

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Anyone with matching family information, please respond privately.


Lafayette, Indiana #usa

Jerry Zeisler <jzeisler@...>
 

My great-grandfather, Rabbi Joseph ZEISLER, was a rabbi at Ahvas Achim (now
Temple Israel) in Lafayette, Indiana in the mid 1880s probably 1884/1885.
Would anyone have any information regarding this congregation or can point
me in the right direction? The AJA has some material but not much during
this time period. Thank you.

Jerry Zeisler
Leesburg, Virginia


Early American SIG #USA Lafayette, Indiana #usa

Jerry Zeisler <jzeisler@...>
 

My great-grandfather, Rabbi Joseph ZEISLER, was a rabbi at Ahvas Achim (now
Temple Israel) in Lafayette, Indiana in the mid 1880s probably 1884/1885.
Would anyone have any information regarding this congregation or can point
me in the right direction? The AJA has some material but not much during
this time period. Thank you.

Jerry Zeisler
Leesburg, Virginia