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Re: Responses from Romanian archives.. #romania

Rosanne Leeson <rdleeson@...>
 

Just a reminder to all that the responses, or lack of same, that you get
from the Romanian archives can vary >from locality to locality. One
cannot generalize. Some archivists are very willing to be helpful,
other not at all!

Rosanne Leeson
Co-Coodinator
ROM-SIG


Romania SIG #Romania RE: Responses from Romanian archives.. #romania

Rosanne Leeson <rdleeson@...>
 

Just a reminder to all that the responses, or lack of same, that you get
from the Romanian archives can vary >from locality to locality. One
cannot generalize. Some archivists are very willing to be helpful,
other not at all!

Rosanne Leeson
Co-Coodinator
ROM-SIG


Kolnagabarnah #lithuania

C&V <proprius@...>
 

It sure sounds like "something" Guberniya, and might even be
Kovno Guberniya. On a U.S. federal census, I found relatives listed as
coming >from "Cavanaugh". It is all in how the word is heard.
Cynthia Spikell


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Kolnagabarnah #lithuania

C&V <proprius@...>
 

It sure sounds like "something" Guberniya, and might even be
Kovno Guberniya. On a U.S. federal census, I found relatives listed as
coming >from "Cavanaugh". It is all in how the word is heard.
Cynthia Spikell


Re: Town Name #general

Meri-Jane Rochelson <rochelso@...>
 

Kolnagabarnah might be Kovno Goberniya.

Meri-Jane Rochelson
Miami, FL


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Re: Town Name #lithuania

Meri-Jane Rochelson <rochelso@...>
 

Kolnagabarnah might be Kovno Goberniya.

Meri-Jane Rochelson
Miami, FL


Re: Town Name #general

Micha Reisel
 

At 08:00 16-09-05, Fred Klein wrote:
>Would anyone have an educated guess, or idea, what the name of the
>following town might be: Kolnagabarnah (sp?). Any help would be greatly
>appreciated.

My vote goes to "Kovno Guberniya"
http://www.jewishgen.org/litvak/createkovno.htm

micha reisel


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Re: Town Name #lithuania

Micha Reisel
 

At 08:00 16-09-05, Fred Klein wrote:
>Would anyone have an educated guess, or idea, what the name of the
>following town might be: Kolnagabarnah (sp?). Any help would be greatly
>appreciated.

My vote goes to "Kovno Guberniya"
http://www.jewishgen.org/litvak/createkovno.htm

micha reisel


Rabbis in Bialystok #poland

Cal Weil <cweil2@...>
 

Family lore has it that my two great grandfathers were Rabbis in Bialystok
in the late 19th early 20th century. Although they had families in Bransk
they taught most of the year in Bialystok. One was Dovid Hirsh WALKOW, and
the other was Kalman Moishe SVEZNIK. (We are not sure of the spelling). He
may have been Chasidic.

Any information would be welcome. I have checked the Bialystok Yizkor Book
and found nothing.

Cal Weill


BialyGen: Bialystok Region #Bialystok #Poland Rabbis in Bialystok #poland

Cal Weil <cweil2@...>
 

Family lore has it that my two great grandfathers were Rabbis in Bialystok
in the late 19th early 20th century. Although they had families in Bransk
they taught most of the year in Bialystok. One was Dovid Hirsh WALKOW, and
the other was Kalman Moishe SVEZNIK. (We are not sure of the spelling). He
may have been Chasidic.

Any information would be welcome. I have checked the Bialystok Yizkor Book
and found nothing.

Cal Weill


Bialystok Rabbi #poland

Edward Lashen <eml24@...>
 

I also was told my great grandfather was a revered Rabbi in Bialystok
in the late 1880's and/or '90s, but I was unable to find him. His
name was Lieb Weberman. Do you have any evidence for this Rabbi. It's
important to me because it would establish exactly where in Bialystok
or neighboring areas my maternal grandparents (Gickfeld/Scheinhouse)
came from.

Thank you.
Ed Lashen


BialyGen: Bialystok Region #Bialystok #Poland Bialystok Rabbi #poland

Edward Lashen <eml24@...>
 

I also was told my great grandfather was a revered Rabbi in Bialystok
in the late 1880's and/or '90s, but I was unable to find him. His
name was Lieb Weberman. Do you have any evidence for this Rabbi. It's
important to me because it would establish exactly where in Bialystok
or neighboring areas my maternal grandparents (Gickfeld/Scheinhouse)
came from.

Thank you.
Ed Lashen


Seek basic information about Mohel books #germany

Ralph Bloch <rablo07@...>
 

I am currently working through a mohel book >from a community in Southern
Germany. Mohel books are a valuable resource in genealogical research.

I am looking for general information about the history, the use of, the
prevalence, common usage patterns and customs involving mohel books. I have
been very unsuccessful in finding such information in the literature. I
would be grateful to any GerSiggers who can point me to appropriate sources.

Ralph Bloch Rablo07@cogeco.ca Dundas, Canada


German SIG #Germany Seek basic information about Mohel books #germany

Ralph Bloch <rablo07@...>
 

I am currently working through a mohel book >from a community in Southern
Germany. Mohel books are a valuable resource in genealogical research.

I am looking for general information about the history, the use of, the
prevalence, common usage patterns and customs involving mohel books. I have
been very unsuccessful in finding such information in the literature. I
would be grateful to any GerSiggers who can point me to appropriate sources.

Ralph Bloch Rablo07@cogeco.ca Dundas, Canada


Re: Ludwig PFANTZLER, Born 1714 #germany

pweinthal@...
 

MODERATOR NOTE: The following message states an opinion which is contrary to
general belief. The opinion is based on personal experience with one family.
The writer did not even provide us with the relevant family name(s).
No information is offered to explain the reason for this exception to the rule.

I am approving this message with mixed feelings. Perhaps a well-informed
member who knows how to cite authoritative sources will respond with solid
information either in support of Ms. Weinthal's opinion or contrary to same.
Citations of sources of specific data on the recording of Jewish surnames by
governments in "Germany" will be welcomed.

Please direct personal opinions to pweinthal@aol.com by private email.
Messages such as "I agree with Roger Lustig. None of my ancestors had last names
until 1810." will not be accepted. MOD 1 ================>

Dear Gersiggers,

With all due respect, the oft-repeated statement that very few Jews had
surnames before 1800 simply isn't the case in Germany. *All my
ancestors* - in both Bavaria to the south and in Hannover to the north
- had stable surnames dating back at least to the early 1700s and
mid-1600s. The various surname registration acts >from the late
1700s-early 1800s codified last names, but did not necessarily impose
them where none existed previously! German-Jewish children were given
the father's name as a middle name.

It is important to bring this out, because this assertion really jammed
me up when I first started researching my lineage. I took this claim as
fact and it greatly perplexed me as I went further and further back in
time and found that ancestor after ancestor in all branches had
surnames. My research would have progressed a lot faster, if I hadn't
accepted this erroneous claim that few Jews had surnames before the 1800s.

With respect to the Pennsylvanian Pfanzler family, I recommend
focusing on Pennsylvanian family history resources. Germans were so
numerous in pre-revolutionary war Pennsylvania that German was almost
declared a second official language in the colony. Early
German-American genealogy resources are exceptionally well-documented
and a specialty in itself. The place to start is with a reference
librarian who can locate the specialized guides to German-American
reference books. German-American colonial period researchers are
well-represented on the web, too. If any of your ancestors fought in
the war, you may find information in the Index to Revolutionary War
Pension Applications or in the records of the Daughters of the American
Revolution (DAR). At the National Genealogical Society's conference in
Pittsburgh, PA, German heritage groups and publishers were well-represented.

Pat Weinthal Boston, MA pweinthal@aol.com
------------------------
Thu, 15 Sep 2005 <trovato@verizon.net> Roger Lustig wrote:
Remember: very few Jews were referred to by surname before around 1800.
Jews were generally called by their given name and a patronym. What
documents give his name?


German SIG #Germany Re: Ludwig PFANTZLER, Born 1714 #germany

pweinthal@...
 

MODERATOR NOTE: The following message states an opinion which is contrary to
general belief. The opinion is based on personal experience with one family.
The writer did not even provide us with the relevant family name(s).
No information is offered to explain the reason for this exception to the rule.

I am approving this message with mixed feelings. Perhaps a well-informed
member who knows how to cite authoritative sources will respond with solid
information either in support of Ms. Weinthal's opinion or contrary to same.
Citations of sources of specific data on the recording of Jewish surnames by
governments in "Germany" will be welcomed.

Please direct personal opinions to pweinthal@aol.com by private email.
Messages such as "I agree with Roger Lustig. None of my ancestors had last names
until 1810." will not be accepted. MOD 1 ================>

Dear Gersiggers,

With all due respect, the oft-repeated statement that very few Jews had
surnames before 1800 simply isn't the case in Germany. *All my
ancestors* - in both Bavaria to the south and in Hannover to the north
- had stable surnames dating back at least to the early 1700s and
mid-1600s. The various surname registration acts >from the late
1700s-early 1800s codified last names, but did not necessarily impose
them where none existed previously! German-Jewish children were given
the father's name as a middle name.

It is important to bring this out, because this assertion really jammed
me up when I first started researching my lineage. I took this claim as
fact and it greatly perplexed me as I went further and further back in
time and found that ancestor after ancestor in all branches had
surnames. My research would have progressed a lot faster, if I hadn't
accepted this erroneous claim that few Jews had surnames before the 1800s.

With respect to the Pennsylvanian Pfanzler family, I recommend
focusing on Pennsylvanian family history resources. Germans were so
numerous in pre-revolutionary war Pennsylvania that German was almost
declared a second official language in the colony. Early
German-American genealogy resources are exceptionally well-documented
and a specialty in itself. The place to start is with a reference
librarian who can locate the specialized guides to German-American
reference books. German-American colonial period researchers are
well-represented on the web, too. If any of your ancestors fought in
the war, you may find information in the Index to Revolutionary War
Pension Applications or in the records of the Daughters of the American
Revolution (DAR). At the National Genealogical Society's conference in
Pittsburgh, PA, German heritage groups and publishers were well-represented.

Pat Weinthal Boston, MA pweinthal@aol.com
------------------------
Thu, 15 Sep 2005 <trovato@verizon.net> Roger Lustig wrote:
Remember: very few Jews were referred to by surname before around 1800.
Jews were generally called by their given name and a patronym. What
documents give his name?


Re: Romanian Natl Archives #romania

Gert Lord <gitty1@...>
 

Sir I had a very positive experience. Early this year. I wrote to them
in English asking for BMD records for the town of Moenesti (about 30
miles >from Galati) which are now kept in Bacau. I specifically named my
ggf,gf and gm. In about 2 months they confirmed receipt and sent my
request on to Bacau. Bacau wrote me in Romanian(there is a Romanian
family nearby who translated for me.) that they found a marriage record
of my gm and gf , my gf referred to as son of one Croitoru. Everything
else was correct except the name. My Israeli cousin told me after
months of wondering that the name means tailor. But the archives also
knew the family name. They had no problem locating the correct family.
I was instructed to send a check for $21 to the Bank of
Romania(complete with address and acct. #. In short order, I received
it in the mail. Gert Lord Yellow Springs Ohio


Romania SIG #Romania Re:Romanian Natl Archives #romania

Gert Lord <gitty1@...>
 

Sir I had a very positive experience. Early this year. I wrote to them
in English asking for BMD records for the town of Moenesti (about 30
miles >from Galati) which are now kept in Bacau. I specifically named my
ggf,gf and gm. In about 2 months they confirmed receipt and sent my
request on to Bacau. Bacau wrote me in Romanian(there is a Romanian
family nearby who translated for me.) that they found a marriage record
of my gm and gf , my gf referred to as son of one Croitoru. Everything
else was correct except the name. My Israeli cousin told me after
months of wondering that the name means tailor. But the archives also
knew the family name. They had no problem locating the correct family.
I was instructed to send a check for $21 to the Bank of
Romania(complete with address and acct. #. In short order, I received
it in the mail. Gert Lord Yellow Springs Ohio


THANK YOU Re: German documents - translation required #germany

Tamar Amit <tamar.amit@...>
 

I received the translations I required and wanted to than the SIG for
the quick replies. Images VM6854 and VM6855 have been removed. Thanks again,

Tamar Amit, Israel <tamar.amit@gmail.com>

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German SIG #Germany THANK YOU Re: German documents - translation required #germany

Tamar Amit <tamar.amit@...>
 

I received the translations I required and wanted to than the SIG for
the quick replies. Images VM6854 and VM6855 have been removed. Thanks again,

Tamar Amit, Israel <tamar.amit@gmail.com>

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sent translations to you.

At the same time you can help JewishGen and GerSIG continue to offer this
Forum and the ViewMate service. A fine example appears now at:
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