Hello,
I have a question for my fellow researchers :
Apparently, my g-grandfather (Yoakhim) Benyamin VITKIND had a brother named
Volf (and both lived to adulthood) and since Volf is the kinnui of Benyamin
and both names are consequently very closely linked, I was wondering if it
was a frequent occurence to name 2 sons after the same combination of names
(Volf and Benyamin, Yehuda and Leyb etc ...)

If you say that it was never done, I may have to look into the matter more
closely ...

Thanks for your kind help, your combined experience always brings such a
wealth of tips and ideas!

Best regards,
Nathalie RIED (France)

Hello,
I have a question for my fellow researchers :
Apparently, my g-grandfather (Yoakhim) Benyamin VITKIND had a brother named
Volf (and both lived to adulthood) and since Volf is the kinnui of Benyamin
and both names are consequently very closely linked, I was wondering if it
was a frequent occurence to name 2 sons after the same combination of names
(Volf and Benyamin, Yehuda and Leyb etc ...)

If you say that it was never done, I may have to look into the matter more
closely ...

Thanks for your kind help, your combined experience always brings such a
wealth of tips and ideas!

Best regards,
Nathalie RIED (France)

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applied to your 2007 dues. If you meant this payment to be applied toward
2008 dues, please contact me directly.

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The ballots for the LitvakSIG 2008 election have been sent via email to
current Members (those who paid dues for 2008). If you did not receive
your ballot, please first check your spam folder and make sure your
mailbox is not full. If you are a 2008 member, and you did not receive
a ballot, please contact the Election Committee co-chair at
soniahoff1@aol.com.

If you are not a current member and would like to participate, you may
pay your dues at www.litvaksig.org until August 12th, and you will
receive a ballot. Email voting will continue until 9 a.m. EDT on August
17. You can also join the SIG and vote at the annual LitvakSIG membership
meeting during the IAJGS conference in Chicago on August 18 at 3:30 p.m.
if you have not voted by email.

The proposed revised Bylaws and the Statements submitted by the candidates
for the Board of Directors can be reviewed at www.litvaksig.org. There is
a link on the homepage.

If you are a member, you can also review the election information at the
member's only website, www.litvaksig.com. This information includes the
proposed Bylaws, the Nominating Committee report, the Candidates'
Statements, the election procedures, the current Bylaws, and other
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The LitvakSIG membership is based on the calendar year and runs >from January
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I think the question has been discussed before, and you should search the
JewishGen archives.

Obviously, "the naming rules" only matter if our ancestors followed them,
otherwise they need to be changed to reflect reality, and not the other way
around.

It's just interesting to note that your ggf was called "Yoakhim Benyamin" (if I
understood correctly), so it would seem that there are at least two significant
differences >from his brother "Volf". It's possible that the brothers were named
after two separate ancestors named "Zeev Vulf" or similar (a common name in some
families, and even more so after Theodore Herzl), and this was the parents'
attempt to name them something different. The proof would be to find the two
relatives that passed away shortly before, both named some variation of
Binyamin/Zeev/Vulf.

tom klein, toronto

nathalieried@free.fr wrote:
Apparently, my g-grandfather (Yoakhim) Benyamin VITKIND had a brother named Volf
(and both lived to adulthood) and since Volf is the kinnui of Benyamin and both
names are consequently very closely linked, I was wondering if it was a frequent
occurence to name 2 sons after the same combination of names (Volf and Benyamin,
Yehuda and Leyb etc ...)

MODERATOR NOTE: The JewishGen Discussion Group archives can be searched via
http://data.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.dll?jg~jgsys~archpop

I think the question has been discussed before, and you should search the
JewishGen archives.

Obviously, "the naming rules" only matter if our ancestors followed them,
otherwise they need to be changed to reflect reality, and not the other way
around.

It's just interesting to note that your ggf was called "Yoakhim Benyamin" (if I
understood correctly), so it would seem that there are at least two significant
differences >from his brother "Volf". It's possible that the brothers were named
after two separate ancestors named "Zeev Vulf" or similar (a common name in some
families, and even more so after Theodore Herzl), and this was the parents'
attempt to name them something different. The proof would be to find the two
relatives that passed away shortly before, both named some variation of
Binyamin/Zeev/Vulf.

tom klein, toronto

nathalieried@free.fr wrote:
Apparently, my g-grandfather (Yoakhim) Benyamin VITKIND had a brother named Volf
(and both lived to adulthood) and since Volf is the kinnui of Benyamin and both
names are consequently very closely linked, I was wondering if it was a frequent
occurence to name 2 sons after the same combination of names (Volf and Benyamin,
Yehuda and Leyb etc ...)

MODERATOR NOTE: The JewishGen Discussion Group archives can be searched via
http://data.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.dll?jg~jgsys~archpop

Greetings,

I have just placed online a very interesting interview I recently did with
the manager of Mt. Judah Cemetery in Ridgewood, New York. It was interesting
for me to do and I did learn a lot. Perhaps you will want to read it. I
don't recall anybody ever doing an in-depth interview with the manager of a
Jewish cemetery, so perhaps this is a first. The link is
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com/qna-cem-mgr.htm .

Most of you are unaware that my site has a rudimentary search engine. You
can use it to search for words or names that may appear on my many lists,
e.g. unique surnames, immigration, Postcard >from Home surnames and towns,
etc. I strongly suggest that you read the "search tips" first before
proceeding. Hopefully one day I will have a more precies search engine.
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com/search-tips.htm
This will make it easier to search my site when you are looking for the
surnames of your family who once lived in Poland and elsewhere.

Also this is the last call for information on active landsmanshaftn, as
I am trying to compile a list for all to see, with contact info, etc.
Please contact me to learn what information I need.

Best,
Steven Lasky
New York
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com
steve@museumoffamilyhistory.com

Greetings,

I have just placed online a very interesting interview I recently did with
the manager of Mt. Judah Cemetery in Ridgewood, New York. It was interesting
for me to do and I did learn a lot. Perhaps you will want to read it. I
don't recall anybody ever doing an in-depth interview with the manager of a
Jewish cemetery, so perhaps this is a first. The link is
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com/qna-cem-mgr.htm .

Most of you are unaware that my site has a rudimentary search engine. You
can use it to search for words or names that may appear on my many lists,
e.g. unique surnames, immigration, Postcard >from Home surnames and towns,
etc. I strongly suggest that you read the "search tips" first before
proceeding. Hopefully one day I will have a more precies search engine.
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com/search-tips.htm
This will make it easier to search my site when you are looking for the
surnames of your family who once lived in Poland and elsewhere.

Also this is the last call for information on active landsmanshaftn, as
I am trying to compile a list for all to see, with contact info, etc.
Please contact me to learn what information I need.

Best,
Steven Lasky
New York
www.museumoffamilyhistory.com
steve@museumoffamilyhistory.com

The annual conference is fast approaching, and we just wanted to let you
know about some presentations and meetings of interest to all of you
Litvaks.

Sunday, August 17
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

11:15 AM - Content and Location of Polish and Russian Language Documents in
Eastern European Archives presented by Jonathan Shea

Monday, August 18
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

8:15 AM - Town - Wide Research: Bringing Your Shtetl to Life, presented by
David Hoffman, board member and secretary of LitvakSIG and President of the
Jewish Family History Foundation. David will focus will be on Ariogola
using a wide array of documents to paint the picture of a typical Lithuanian
town >from 1765 - 1940.

11:15 AM - Litvak Migratory Decisions in the 19th Century and Their
Consequences, presented by Ruth Leiserowitz.

2:00 PM - Lithuanian Research - Updates, New Projects, etc., presented by
Howard Margo, President of LitvakSIG. In addition to the latest news on
Lithuanian and other archives, Howard will discuss his experiences during
his recent trip to Bad Arolsen to research in the ITS records.

3:30 PM - Litvak SIG Meeting - this is the annual general meeting of the
LitvakSIG which will include elections to the board of directors and great
networking opportunities for all in attendance. You need not be a member of
LitvakSIG to attend this meeting.

Wednesday, August 20
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

12:30 - LitvakSIG Luncheon
Ruth Leiserowitz will give a talk on The Memel (Klaipeda) Archive Records -
Where and What Are They?
This is new information on records not previously known to exist, and should
be of great interest to any researcher with a connection to Memel. Tickets
must be purchased in advance, through the conference registration website.
Attendees will only be allowed admission with a ticket, and no tickets to
hear the talk only are available.

7:00 PM - The Litvak - Galitzianer Wars: The Cultural Geography of East
European Jewry, presented by Zvi Gitelman.
Four of five American Jews trace their ancestry to Eastern Europe. But that
region was quite diverse in religious practices; Yiddish pronunciation,
foods, customs, dress and political ideologies. Some of this diversity
carried over to America, but over several generations it has faded. This
talk will explore the differences among East European Jews and the
stereotypes to which they gave rise, illustrating the richness and vitality
of a civilization which continues to inform Jewish life in Europe, the
Americas and Israel.

Thursday, August 21
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

11:15 AM - Using 18th Century Grand Duchy Records for Belarus and Lithuania,
presented by Sonia Hoffman.
The Grand Duchy of Lithuania was home to the ancestors of 80% of the Jews
alive in the world today. During this "golden age" before this area became
part of the Russian Empire, Jews enjoyed a great deal of self-government and
economic security. The GDL project is translating thousands of pages of poll
tax-census records >from the late 18th century for territory that later
became Belarus and Lithuania for a patronymic database. The information in
these records, as well as their historical context will be described, and
methods for finding families in records without surnames will be illustrated

11:15 AM - Kupiskis - Rokiskis SIG Meeting
Don't miss this meeting if your family came >from either town or the villages
surrounding them in northeastern Lithuania, near the Latvian border.

11:15 AM - Reading and Interpreting Cyrillic Documents, presented by Matthew
Bielawa.

12:30 PM - Suwalki-Lomza BOF Meeting
Don't miss this if your Litvak ancestors had a connection to Suwalki
Gubernia.

2:00 PM - Hands - on Approach to Learning the Cyrillic Alphabets and
Reading, presented by Matthew Bielawa.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Films With Litvak Themes:

"The World Was Ours" (about Vilna) - Monday, 12:30 - 2 PM

"Unlikely Heroes" (which features Leon Kahn, a Lithuanian partisan and
first cousin once removed to our Moderator, Judy Baston) - Wednesday,
8:30 PM - 10:30 PM

"World Travels-Lithuania-Digging Up Roots" - Thursday, 10:15 AM - 10:45 AM

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

There are many other presentations which will be of interest to Litvak
researchers so check the printed program carefully.

Among these are Computer Training Workshops, Eastern Europe and Central
European Research, Israel pre and post 1948,Genetics and DNA Research,
Holocaust Research, Jewish History and Sociology, Latin American Research,
Methodology, Migration and Naturalization, Rabbinic Research, Research in
Other Area, Technology and Internet Research, United States Research and
Western European Research.

Some of the always popular presenters are Steven Morse, Ron Arons, Gary
Mokotoff, Mike Karsen, David Kleiman, Nick Evans, Kahlile Mehr, Alex Beider.

And don't overlook the evening programs such as:

Opening Session and Reception on Sunday >from 7:30 - 10:00 PM

One Step Webpages by Steve Morse on Monday >from 8:00 - 10:00 PM

The Jewish Collection at Ancestry.com on Tuesday >from 8:00 - 10:00 PM

JewishGen:Setting Chicago on Fire on Wednesday >from 8:30 - 9:30 PM

Don't forget about the Banquet on Thursday evening. It is a great way to
relax after 5 days of 8 AM to 10 PM activities. Tickets must be purchased
in advance through the conference website. The annual IAJGS awards are
presented.

Looking forward to meeting many of you in Chicago in two weeks.

Eden Joachim
For the Board of LitvakSIG

The annual conference is fast approaching, and we just wanted to let you
know about some presentations and meetings of interest to all of you
Litvaks.

Sunday, August 17
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

11:15 AM - Content and Location of Polish and Russian Language Documents in
Eastern European Archives presented by Jonathan Shea

Monday, August 18
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

8:15 AM - Town - Wide Research: Bringing Your Shtetl to Life, presented by
David Hoffman, board member and secretary of LitvakSIG and President of the
Jewish Family History Foundation. David will focus will be on Ariogola
using a wide array of documents to paint the picture of a typical Lithuanian
town >from 1765 - 1940.

11:15 AM - Litvak Migratory Decisions in the 19th Century and Their
Consequences, presented by Ruth Leiserowitz.

2:00 PM - Lithuanian Research - Updates, New Projects, etc., presented by
Howard Margo, President of LitvakSIG. In addition to the latest news on
Lithuanian and other archives, Howard will discuss his experiences during
his recent trip to Bad Arolsen to research in the ITS records.

3:30 PM - Litvak SIG Meeting - this is the annual general meeting of the
LitvakSIG which will include elections to the board of directors and great
networking opportunities for all in attendance. You need not be a member of
LitvakSIG to attend this meeting.

Wednesday, August 20
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

12:30 - LitvakSIG Luncheon
Ruth Leiserowitz will give a talk on The Memel (Klaipeda) Archive Records -
Where and What Are They?
This is new information on records not previously known to exist, and should
be of great interest to any researcher with a connection to Memel. Tickets
must be purchased in advance, through the conference registration website.
Attendees will only be allowed admission with a ticket, and no tickets to
hear the talk only are available.

7:00 PM - The Litvak - Galitzianer Wars: The Cultural Geography of East
European Jewry, presented by Zvi Gitelman.
Four of five American Jews trace their ancestry to Eastern Europe. But that
region was quite diverse in religious practices; Yiddish pronunciation,
foods, customs, dress and political ideologies. Some of this diversity
carried over to America, but over several generations it has faded. This
talk will explore the differences among East European Jews and the
stereotypes to which they gave rise, illustrating the richness and vitality
of a civilization which continues to inform Jewish life in Europe, the
Americas and Israel.

Thursday, August 21
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

11:15 AM - Using 18th Century Grand Duchy Records for Belarus and Lithuania,
presented by Sonia Hoffman.
The Grand Duchy of Lithuania was home to the ancestors of 80% of the Jews
alive in the world today. During this "golden age" before this area became
part of the Russian Empire, Jews enjoyed a great deal of self-government and
economic security. The GDL project is translating thousands of pages of poll
tax-census records >from the late 18th century for territory that later
became Belarus and Lithuania for a patronymic database. The information in
these records, as well as their historical context will be described, and
methods for finding families in records without surnames will be illustrated

11:15 AM - Kupiskis - Rokiskis SIG Meeting
Don't miss this meeting if your family came >from either town or the villages
surrounding them in northeastern Lithuania, near the Latvian border.

11:15 AM - Reading and Interpreting Cyrillic Documents, presented by Matthew
Bielawa.

12:30 PM - Suwalki-Lomza BOF Meeting
Don't miss this if your Litvak ancestors had a connection to Suwalki
Gubernia.

2:00 PM - Hands - on Approach to Learning the Cyrillic Alphabets and
Reading, presented by Matthew Bielawa.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Films With Litvak Themes:

"The World Was Ours" (about Vilna) - Monday, 12:30 - 2 PM

"Unlikely Heroes" (which features Leon Kahn, a Lithuanian partisan and
first cousin once removed to our Moderator, Judy Baston) - Wednesday,
8:30 PM - 10:30 PM

"World Travels-Lithuania-Digging Up Roots" - Thursday, 10:15 AM - 10:45 AM

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

There are many other presentations which will be of interest to Litvak
researchers so check the printed program carefully.

Among these are Computer Training Workshops, Eastern Europe and Central
European Research, Israel pre and post 1948,Genetics and DNA Research,
Holocaust Research, Jewish History and Sociology, Latin American Research,
Methodology, Migration and Naturalization, Rabbinic Research, Research in
Other Area, Technology and Internet Research, United States Research and
Western European Research.

Some of the always popular presenters are Steven Morse, Ron Arons, Gary
Mokotoff, Mike Karsen, David Kleiman, Nick Evans, Kahlile Mehr, Alex Beider.

And don't overlook the evening programs such as:

Opening Session and Reception on Sunday >from 7:30 - 10:00 PM

One Step Webpages by Steve Morse on Monday >from 8:00 - 10:00 PM

The Jewish Collection at Ancestry.com on Tuesday >from 8:00 - 10:00 PM

JewishGen:Setting Chicago on Fire on Wednesday >from 8:30 - 9:30 PM

Don't forget about the Banquet on Thursday evening. It is a great way to
relax after 5 days of 8 AM to 10 PM activities. Tickets must be purchased
in advance through the conference website. The annual IAJGS awards are
presented.

Looking forward to meeting many of you in Chicago in two weeks.

Eden Joachim
For the Board of LitvakSIG

The entire Index to Jewish Vital Records is now available on the
LitvakSIG.com Members Only web site,
http://www.litvaksig.com/forum/phpBB3/
You must log in to the web site to see the index.

Instructions for logging in:
1) If you have never registered for this site, click on REGISTER and
follow the prompts. You will not be able to log in until your
registration is activated. You must have paid your dues for calendar year
2008 to be activated.

2) If you have registered,
log in,
scroll down to the LitvakSIG Research Library, then
click on INDEX OF JEWISH VITAL RECORDS IN LVIA.

3) When you click on this forum, you will see two topics. You can read
the Introduction by clicking on it (it contains a good deal of
information explaining the index), or you can go right to the Index.
(Click on the topic, then the link inside the topic. >from this page,
choose the letter that begins the name of the geographic area you are
researching.)

Peggy Mosinger Freedman
Webmaster
LitvakSIG Members Message Board

The entire Index to Jewish Vital Records is now available on the
LitvakSIG.com Members Only web site,
http://www.litvaksig.com/forum/phpBB3/
You must log in to the web site to see the index.

Instructions for logging in:
1) If you have never registered for this site, click on REGISTER and
follow the prompts. You will not be able to log in until your
registration is activated. You must have paid your dues for calendar year
2008 to be activated.

2) If you have registered,
log in,
scroll down to the LitvakSIG Research Library, then
click on INDEX OF JEWISH VITAL RECORDS IN LVIA.

3) When you click on this forum, you will see two topics. You can read
the Introduction by clicking on it (it contains a good deal of
information explaining the index), or you can go right to the Index.
(Click on the topic, then the link inside the topic. >from this page,
choose the letter that begins the name of the geographic area you are
researching.)

Peggy Mosinger Freedman
Webmaster
LitvakSIG Members Message Board

It is with great sadness that we have just learned that Richard Winer,
Coordinator of the LitvakSIG Ukmerge District Research Group, passed away
July 17th as a result of a fall and subsequent stroke.

Richard spent many happy years researching his family, helping Ukmerge
contributors, attending local genealogy meetings in Boston and the annual
IAJGS conferences and spending time with the many people he met through his
dedication to LitvakSIG.

We will all miss his ever cheerful disposition, his understanding and his
friendship. He was truly a gentle man.

Donations in his memory may be sent to the Jewish Historical Society of the
North Shore, 1 Community Road, Marblehead, MA 01945.

Carol Coplin Baker
Olga Zabludoff
Davida Noyek Handler

MODERATOR'S NOTE: May his memory be for a blessing.

It is with great sadness that we have just learned that Richard Winer,
Coordinator of the LitvakSIG Ukmerge District Research Group, passed away
July 17th as a result of a fall and subsequent stroke.

Richard spent many happy years researching his family, helping Ukmerge
contributors, attending local genealogy meetings in Boston and the annual
IAJGS conferences and spending time with the many people he met through his
dedication to LitvakSIG.

We will all miss his ever cheerful disposition, his understanding and his
friendship. He was truly a gentle man.

Donations in his memory may be sent to the Jewish Historical Society of the
North Shore, 1 Community Road, Marblehead, MA 01945.

Carol Coplin Baker
Olga Zabludoff
Davida Noyek Handler

MODERATOR'S NOTE: May his memory be for a blessing.

You can check in the JewishGen Given Names Database - that's its purpose in life.
The major variations listed include Srul and Iser.
tom klein, toronto

"Saul Goldstone" <saul@goldino.net> wrote:>
I am researching an ancestor with the first name "Israel".

MODERATOR NOTE: The JewishGEN Given Names Database can be found at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/GivenNames/

You can check in the JewishGen Given Names Database - that's its purpose in life.
The major variations listed include Srul and Iser.
tom klein, toronto

"Saul Goldstone" <saul@goldino.net> wrote:>
I am researching an ancestor with the first name "Israel".

MODERATOR NOTE: The JewishGEN Given Names Database can be found at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/GivenNames/

Alex Woodle asked for help locating a specific address in Chicago.
Although I responded to him privately with respect to his particular
question, I thought many more might be interested in this website.
The Encyclopedia Of Chicago has dozens of maps covering all kinds of
information >from the 17th century through the 2000s. You may want to
look at the site,
http://www.encyclopedia.chicagohistory.org/pages/700011.html
For detailed maps of the heart of the city, the best choice is probably
Robinson's Atlas of the City of Chicago >from 1886. It is in four
volumes and they are all scanned. Good luck!

David Gordon
tiganeasca@gmail.com
Chicago, IL
Searching:
HORWITZ: Smolevichi, Lapichi, Bobruisk?, GORDON: Butrimonys
GEBALOVITCH: Borisov, LEVIN: Butrimonys, DRAZIN: Bobruisk
BENENSON: Borisov, HURWITZ: Gomel

Alex Woodle asked for help locating a specific address in Chicago.
Although I responded to him privately with respect to his particular
question, I thought many more might be interested in this website.
The Encyclopedia Of Chicago has dozens of maps covering all kinds of
information >from the 17th century through the 2000s. You may want to
look at the site,
http://www.encyclopedia.chicagohistory.org/pages/700011.html
For detailed maps of the heart of the city, the best choice is probably
Robinson's Atlas of the City of Chicago >from 1886. It is in four
volumes and they are all scanned. Good luck!

David Gordon
tiganeasca@gmail.com
Chicago, IL
Searching:
HORWITZ: Smolevichi, Lapichi, Bobruisk?, GORDON: Butrimonys
GEBALOVITCH: Borisov, LEVIN: Butrimonys, DRAZIN: Bobruisk
BENENSON: Borisov, HURWITZ: Gomel