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Re: Hungarian Treasures #hungary

David & Diana Laufer
 

Sam Schleman wrote:

"One of the many virtues of helping to transcribe the Hungarian vital records
is the opportunity to come across records of historical value.

One such record is the birth register for Theodor Herzl, born in Budapest on
2-May-1860 to Jacob Herzl and Jeanette Diamant."

By coincidence, a couple of weeks ago while browsing Viennese records, I
came across that of Theodore HERZL's marriage to Julianna NASCHAUER on
25 June 1889 at a place named Reichenau. As well as naming his parents
and date of birth as above, it also mentioned:
- as a first name and title: Dr./Tivuday/Theodor
- occupation: Jurist
- residence right ("zustandig"): Pukersdorf, Nieder Oesterreich

As I am not related to Dr. Herzl I did not photocopy that record, but did write
the above notes >from LDS film number 1223420.


BTW, I have recently enrolled as a transcriber with Sam Schleman for one town in
Hungary.

Regards

David Laufer
Sydney, Australia


Re: Hebrew Date Question - ViewMate 12923 #hungary

tom
 

as far as i know, "adar" without qualification means adar 1, but i could be wrong.


........ tom klein, toronto

PACKARD40@... wrote:

I have posted on ViewMate an image of a tombstone bearing the Hebrew date
of passing of 8 Adar 5689, which is ambiguous, as the year 5689 contained
the months of Adar Aleph and Adar Bet.

How can one determine the correct date (Adar Aleph or Bet) of passing of
the deceased, given that neither month is clearly indicated? Any citations
or references would also be appreciated with a response.

<http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=12923> .

Thank you very much in advance,
Respectfully, Marshall Katz


Great Web Site for Town/Village Maps #hungary

vze2sv8z@...
 

http://www.hiszi-map.hu/catalog/index.php has detailed contemporary
maps for Hungary, Slovakia, and Romania, including small towns &
villages throughout these countries. The maps show geographic markers
(roads, bridges, streams, wooded areas) as well as inhabited areas and
cemetery locations (although in most cases the religious denomination
is not indicated, and I suspect dormant Jewish cemeteries may be
omitted).

Bob Friedman
Brooklyn, NY


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Hungarian Treasures #hungary

David & Diana Laufer
 

Sam Schleman wrote:

"One of the many virtues of helping to transcribe the Hungarian vital records
is the opportunity to come across records of historical value.

One such record is the birth register for Theodor Herzl, born in Budapest on
2-May-1860 to Jacob Herzl and Jeanette Diamant."

By coincidence, a couple of weeks ago while browsing Viennese records, I
came across that of Theodore HERZL's marriage to Julianna NASCHAUER on
25 June 1889 at a place named Reichenau. As well as naming his parents
and date of birth as above, it also mentioned:
- as a first name and title: Dr./Tivuday/Theodor
- occupation: Jurist
- residence right ("zustandig"): Pukersdorf, Nieder Oesterreich

As I am not related to Dr. Herzl I did not photocopy that record, but did write
the above notes >from LDS film number 1223420.


BTW, I have recently enrolled as a transcriber with Sam Schleman for one town in
Hungary.

Regards

David Laufer
Sydney, Australia


Hungary SIG #Hungary Re: Hebrew Date Question - ViewMate 12923 #hungary

tom
 

as far as i know, "adar" without qualification means adar 1, but i could be wrong.


........ tom klein, toronto

PACKARD40@... wrote:

I have posted on ViewMate an image of a tombstone bearing the Hebrew date
of passing of 8 Adar 5689, which is ambiguous, as the year 5689 contained
the months of Adar Aleph and Adar Bet.

How can one determine the correct date (Adar Aleph or Bet) of passing of
the deceased, given that neither month is clearly indicated? Any citations
or references would also be appreciated with a response.

<http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=12923> .

Thank you very much in advance,
Respectfully, Marshall Katz


Hungary SIG #Hungary Great Web Site for Town/Village Maps #hungary

vze2sv8z@...
 

http://www.hiszi-map.hu/catalog/index.php has detailed contemporary
maps for Hungary, Slovakia, and Romania, including small towns &
villages throughout these countries. The maps show geographic markers
(roads, bridges, streams, wooded areas) as well as inhabited areas and
cemetery locations (although in most cases the religious denomination
is not indicated, and I suspect dormant Jewish cemeteries may be
omitted).

Bob Friedman
Brooklyn, NY


Kazinczy synagogue #hungary

georges.graner@...
 

At 08:04 16/06/2009, you wrote:


I have received a phone call >from a researcher who is looking for a pre-war
photo of the Kazinczy Synagogue in Budapest.

Yohanan LOEFFLER
Melbourne Australia
Hello,
Try to find the book "Jewish Budapest, Monuments,
Rites, History" by Kinga Frojimovics, Geza
Komoroczy, Viktoria Pusztai and Andrea Strbik,
publisher Central European University Press, English Edition 1999.
In this book, on pages 148-153, one can see
pictures of the Kazinczy synagogue, ainly inside but also outside.

Yours,

Georges GRANER
georges.graner@...=20


Hungary SIG #Hungary Kazinczy synagogue #hungary

georges.graner@...
 

At 08:04 16/06/2009, you wrote:


I have received a phone call >from a researcher who is looking for a pre-war
photo of the Kazinczy Synagogue in Budapest.

Yohanan LOEFFLER
Melbourne Australia
Hello,
Try to find the book "Jewish Budapest, Monuments,
Rites, History" by Kinga Frojimovics, Geza
Komoroczy, Viktoria Pusztai and Andrea Strbik,
publisher Central European University Press, English Edition 1999.
In this book, on pages 148-153, one can see
pictures of the Kazinczy synagogue, ainly inside but also outside.

Yours,

Georges GRANER
georges.graner@...=20


Vitebsk cemetery #lithuania

Esther
 

Information about the Vitebsk Cemetery now appears on the Vitebsk
website:
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Vitsyebsk/

Esther Reches


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Vitebsk cemetery #lithuania

Esther
 

Information about the Vitebsk Cemetery now appears on the Vitebsk
website:
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Vitsyebsk/

Esther Reches


Re: Plunge #lithuania

Raymhill@...
 

Subject: Plunge
From: Elaine Bush <erbush@...>
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 10:30:38 -0700
X-Message-Number: 3
Here is another informative article on Plunge:
http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/Lita/Lit1589.html#Page1592
Someone once helped me date this piece to the 1950s using the
reference to the Great Fire. According to this writer, my REST family
had roots going back to the 17th century in Plunge. I'm still
working on those early years!
Elaine Bush
Pleasant Hill, CA
The article that Elaine Bush cites, although included in a book ("Lite")
published in 1951, dates not >from the 1950's but >from the late 1930's.
Only a tiny fraction of the Jews remaining in Plunge survived the
murderous pogrom perpetrated by Lithuanians after the Soviet retreat
in June 1941.

There is no way an article published after 1941 describing Jewish Plunge
could refer to as many as 2,000 Jewish inhabitants. There was a "great
fire" in Plunge sometime between 1930 (when my father left Plunge for
America) and 1936 (when he went back to visit his parents as a newlywed
with my American-born mother). During my father's absence, his original
family home was destroyed in the fire and was re-built, with financial
help >from American relatives.

Hillel Raymon
Highland Park, NJ


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Re: Plunge #lithuania

Raymhill@...
 

Subject: Plunge
From: Elaine Bush <erbush@...>
Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2009 10:30:38 -0700
X-Message-Number: 3
Here is another informative article on Plunge:
http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/Lita/Lit1589.html#Page1592
Someone once helped me date this piece to the 1950s using the
reference to the Great Fire. According to this writer, my REST family
had roots going back to the 17th century in Plunge. I'm still
working on those early years!
Elaine Bush
Pleasant Hill, CA
The article that Elaine Bush cites, although included in a book ("Lite")
published in 1951, dates not >from the 1950's but >from the late 1930's.
Only a tiny fraction of the Jews remaining in Plunge survived the
murderous pogrom perpetrated by Lithuanians after the Soviet retreat
in June 1941.

There is no way an article published after 1941 describing Jewish Plunge
could refer to as many as 2,000 Jewish inhabitants. There was a "great
fire" in Plunge sometime between 1930 (when my father left Plunge for
America) and 1936 (when he went back to visit his parents as a newlywed
with my American-born mother). During my father's absence, his original
family home was destroyed in the fire and was re-built, with financial
help >from American relatives.

Hillel Raymon
Highland Park, NJ


SILVERMAN, LEVY, LEDERER (from Chorzele to NYC) #poland

MandJMeyers <mandjmeyers@...>
 

I'm looking for family related to Kalman and Eva SILVERMAN of New York
City. Kalman came >from Chorzele (north of Warsaw), was born around 1855
and emigrated in 1873 (according to his US passport application). Eva
was born in NY.

The 1910 census shows them living on W.116th St in Manhattan, owning a
gown company, and living with a son Sydney (born c.1892).

The 1920 census shows them living on 7th Avenue with a step-daughter
Hattie Levy, a step-son Sydney LEDERER, a son-in-law Michael LEVY and
a grandson Joel LEVY. Kalman is listed as a manufacturer of dresses.

The 1930 census shows them living on Amsterdam living with son Sydney
LEDERER.
Also, in 1930 Michael and Hattie LEVY were living on West End Avenue
with their son Joel. Michael was the manager of a garage.

I have found that all the SILVERMAN/ZYLBERMAN >from Chorzele and
Przasnysz are related to me and have traced them back 12 generations.

If this is familiar, please contact me privately at
<MandJMeyers@...>

Marty Meyers
Montclair, NJ


JRI Poland #Poland SILVERMAN, LEVY, LEDERER (from Chorzele to NYC) #poland

MandJMeyers <mandjmeyers@...>
 

I'm looking for family related to Kalman and Eva SILVERMAN of New York
City. Kalman came >from Chorzele (north of Warsaw), was born around 1855
and emigrated in 1873 (according to his US passport application). Eva
was born in NY.

The 1910 census shows them living on W.116th St in Manhattan, owning a
gown company, and living with a son Sydney (born c.1892).

The 1920 census shows them living on 7th Avenue with a step-daughter
Hattie Levy, a step-son Sydney LEDERER, a son-in-law Michael LEVY and
a grandson Joel LEVY. Kalman is listed as a manufacturer of dresses.

The 1930 census shows them living on Amsterdam living with son Sydney
LEDERER.
Also, in 1930 Michael and Hattie LEVY were living on West End Avenue
with their son Joel. Michael was the manager of a garage.

I have found that all the SILVERMAN/ZYLBERMAN >from Chorzele and
Przasnysz are related to me and have traced them back 12 generations.

If this is familiar, please contact me privately at
<MandJMeyers@...>

Marty Meyers
Montclair, NJ


Re: Translation of 1819 Polish Death Certificate #poland

Fay Bussgang <fbussgang@...>
 

Goscinny is guest. Austerna may be an Inn or a town. He may have
been visiting and not a resident of Dzialoszyn when he was a witness
for his father's death.

Fay Bussgang
Lexington, MA


JRI Poland #Poland Re: Translation of 1819 Polish Death Certificate #poland

Fay Bussgang <fbussgang@...>
 

Goscinny is guest. Austerna may be an Inn or a town. He may have
been visiting and not a resident of Dzialoszyn when he was a witness
for his father's death.

Fay Bussgang
Lexington, MA


Advice on onsite research Lvov and Galicia #poland

Michael Goldrich <michaelg25@...>
 

My cousin will be visiting the Lvov region for research into our
ancestors >from Komarno and Rudki in the next few weeks

Any assistance with suggested sites to visit for research or
individuals to contact would be appreciated.

Also can anyone identify the shetls listed for the parent towns in a
record Koropuz, Rozatycze

Thanks,

Michael Goldrich

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JRI Poland #Poland Advice on onsite research Lvov and Galicia #poland

Michael Goldrich <michaelg25@...>
 

My cousin will be visiting the Lvov region for research into our
ancestors >from Komarno and Rudki in the next few weeks

Any assistance with suggested sites to visit for research or
individuals to contact would be appreciated.

Also can anyone identify the shetls listed for the parent towns in a
record Koropuz, Rozatycze

Thanks,

Michael Goldrich

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately with any suggestions for
private researchers. Any other information may be shared with the
list.


Bessie Deutelbaum, d. Nov 1969 - Obit look-up, please #poland

natrab@...
 

Having recieved a reply to my request for Rose Deutelbaum Kirschner's OBIT,
it states that her Mom, Bessie Deutelbaum was among her mourners.

I looked her up on the SSDI and discovered that she died in Nov. 1969,
in Last Residence: 10458 Bronx, New York

Now, I'd like to find out who was Bessie's husband (my Dad's cousin),
as he died prior to the first US Census of 1910, where Bessie & family
are listed....

Thanks, Rachel H Bernstein


JRI Poland #Poland Bessie Deutelbaum, d. Nov 1969 - Obit look-up, please #poland

natrab@...
 

Having recieved a reply to my request for Rose Deutelbaum Kirschner's OBIT,
it states that her Mom, Bessie Deutelbaum was among her mourners.

I looked her up on the SSDI and discovered that she died in Nov. 1969,
in Last Residence: 10458 Bronx, New York

Now, I'd like to find out who was Bessie's husband (my Dad's cousin),
as he died prior to the first US Census of 1910, where Bessie & family
are listed....

Thanks, Rachel H Bernstein