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Disappearing RIJO site #germany

Elizabeth Levy <levyliz@...>
 

Dear Friends,

It is not disappearing magic or even a mystery.... If I remember correctly,
the site was taken off the web because, apparently, people were "using" the
information on the site for other purposes without asking permission,
without giving credit to where the information came >from and possibly for
other reasons as well.

It used to be on there with a message as to why we could no longer enter the
site. I guess they finally took off the site all together.

I suggest that anyone interested contact Gerhard Jochem about it. Gerhard is
at the archives in Nuernberg. It is indeed a great shame and a big loss not
to have that information available. The site was phenomenal.

Elizabeth Levy <levyliz@zahav.net.il>

MODERATOR NOTE: A message dated 2005.02.22 which is in our archives gives
more details. At that time Mr. Jochem reported to us that another website
was using the RIJO content for commercial purposes. Mr. Jochem is no longer
a GerSIG subscriber and the Archives don't contain an announcement >from him
that the RIJO site would be removed or restricted. Unfortunately, it seems that
this is the case.


German SIG #Germany Disappearing RIJO site #germany

Elizabeth Levy <levyliz@...>
 

Dear Friends,

It is not disappearing magic or even a mystery.... If I remember correctly,
the site was taken off the web because, apparently, people were "using" the
information on the site for other purposes without asking permission,
without giving credit to where the information came >from and possibly for
other reasons as well.

It used to be on there with a message as to why we could no longer enter the
site. I guess they finally took off the site all together.

I suggest that anyone interested contact Gerhard Jochem about it. Gerhard is
at the archives in Nuernberg. It is indeed a great shame and a big loss not
to have that information available. The site was phenomenal.

Elizabeth Levy <levyliz@zahav.net.il>

MODERATOR NOTE: A message dated 2005.02.22 which is in our archives gives
more details. At that time Mr. Jochem reported to us that another website
was using the RIJO content for commercial purposes. Mr. Jochem is no longer
a GerSIG subscriber and the Archives don't contain an announcement >from him
that the RIJO site would be removed or restricted. Unfortunately, it seems that
this is the case.


Re: looking for pictures #galicia

Pamela Weisberger <pweisberger@...>
 

A suggestion for Todd Brody who is looking for pictures of Galician and
Polish towns. Try Yivo's

"People of a Thousand Towns" - The Online Catalog of Photographs of Jewish
Life in Prewar Eastern Europe at:

http://yivo1000towns.cjh.org

The photographs in People of a Thousand Towns constitute a visual record of
thousands of pre-World War II Jewish communities in Poland, Lithuania,
Russia, Ukraine, Latvia, Estonia, Romania, Hungary, and Czechoslovakia. They
span the late 19th century to the early 1940s and document the lives of
large Jewish centers as well as many smaller towns and villages.

Although many of these are photographs of people, and you are looking for
town and village pictures, the database has that type of photograph as well,
and it is easy to search through.

Pamela Weisberger
Santa Monica, CA
pweisberger@hotmail.com


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia RE: looking for pictures #galicia

Pamela Weisberger <pweisberger@...>
 

A suggestion for Todd Brody who is looking for pictures of Galician and
Polish towns. Try Yivo's

"People of a Thousand Towns" - The Online Catalog of Photographs of Jewish
Life in Prewar Eastern Europe at:

http://yivo1000towns.cjh.org

The photographs in People of a Thousand Towns constitute a visual record of
thousands of pre-World War II Jewish communities in Poland, Lithuania,
Russia, Ukraine, Latvia, Estonia, Romania, Hungary, and Czechoslovakia. They
span the late 19th century to the early 1940s and document the lives of
large Jewish centers as well as many smaller towns and villages.

Although many of these are photographs of people, and you are looking for
town and village pictures, the database has that type of photograph as well,
and it is easy to search through.

Pamela Weisberger
Santa Monica, CA
pweisberger@hotmail.com


Re: Jewish Given Names - Wohamja? #galicia

HJB <hjb@...>
 

Many thanks to Peter and to the others who have all pointed me to
Nehemja as my Grandfather's given name. I do appreciate the
help.

Hazel Boon
Hamilton, ON, Canada

----- Original Message -----

While I am sure it is not Wohamja, I am pretty sure this is
Nehemja, a
Jewish name once used in Poland. If you look closely into the
document you
will likely recognize the spelling, unless of course a clerk
misspelled it.

Peter


Re: looking for pictures #galicia

Alexander Sharon
 

From: "Todd Brody" <tbrody10@yahoo.com>

I am trying to find any pictures of the following
towns in Galicia (whether old or new):

Sieniawa
(historical photos)

http://www.sieniawa.pl/?site=o/historia.foto

Jaroslaw
(25 new photographs)
http://www.jaroslaw.pl/argcms_gallery/index.php?id=29

(and 46 old photos)

http://www.jaroslaw.pl/argcms_gallery/index.php?id=29&idgc=4

Przemysl
http://www.um.przemysl.pl/galeria/index.htm
http://www.um.przemysl.pl/kartki/index.php?katalog=Kartki_z_Twierdzy&name_to=&mail_to=
http://www.um.przemysl.pl/kartki/index.php?katalog=Przemysl&name_to=&mail_to=


I am also looking for pictures of the following towns
that are not in Galicia:

Sandomierz (close to Galicia)
http://www.sandomierz.pl/index.php?d=widokowka

and

Biezun
(English language URL- ask website creator for more photographs)
http://tinyurl.com/8o99q

Zuromin
http://tinyurl.com/apovz


Sierpc
http://www.sierpc.com.pl/galeria.php?start=1
Mlawa
English URL
http://www.mlawa.um.gov.pl/english.html

Zielun
Plock
English URL:

http://www.ump.pl/en/

All in the Northern part of Poland.

I am not looking for pictures of individuals. Rather,
I am looking for pictures of the towns themselves.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
Alexander Sharon <a.sharon@shaw.ca>


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Jewish Given Names - Wohamja? #galicia

HJB <hjb@...>
 

Many thanks to Peter and to the others who have all pointed me to
Nehemja as my Grandfather's given name. I do appreciate the
help.

Hazel Boon
Hamilton, ON, Canada

----- Original Message -----

While I am sure it is not Wohamja, I am pretty sure this is
Nehemja, a
Jewish name once used in Poland. If you look closely into the
document you
will likely recognize the spelling, unless of course a clerk
misspelled it.

Peter


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: looking for pictures #galicia

Alexander Sharon
 

From: "Todd Brody" <tbrody10@yahoo.com>

I am trying to find any pictures of the following
towns in Galicia (whether old or new):

Sieniawa
(historical photos)

http://www.sieniawa.pl/?site=o/historia.foto

Jaroslaw
(25 new photographs)
http://www.jaroslaw.pl/argcms_gallery/index.php?id=29

(and 46 old photos)

http://www.jaroslaw.pl/argcms_gallery/index.php?id=29&idgc=4

Przemysl
http://www.um.przemysl.pl/galeria/index.htm
http://www.um.przemysl.pl/kartki/index.php?katalog=Kartki_z_Twierdzy&name_to=&mail_to=
http://www.um.przemysl.pl/kartki/index.php?katalog=Przemysl&name_to=&mail_to=


I am also looking for pictures of the following towns
that are not in Galicia:

Sandomierz (close to Galicia)
http://www.sandomierz.pl/index.php?d=widokowka

and

Biezun
(English language URL- ask website creator for more photographs)
http://tinyurl.com/8o99q

Zuromin
http://tinyurl.com/apovz


Sierpc
http://www.sierpc.com.pl/galeria.php?start=1
Mlawa
English URL
http://www.mlawa.um.gov.pl/english.html

Zielun
Plock
English URL:

http://www.ump.pl/en/

All in the Northern part of Poland.

I am not looking for pictures of individuals. Rather,
I am looking for pictures of the towns themselves.
Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.
Alexander Sharon <a.sharon@shaw.ca>


Russians to the Western States #general

Barbara Heinrich
 

My cousin told me about this link which tells the story of how many Russian
Jews came to Kansas and other western states.

http://www.kancoll.org/books/harris/sodcontents.htm

Barb Heinrich
Barb Gibian Heinrich,
bghheinrich@comcast.net
Buffalo Grove, Illinois

researching:GIBIANSKI, ETTENSON >from Suwalki,Vilkaviskis and Leavenworth
Kansas. SHAEFFER >from Riga, Latvia HEINRICH, LOEWY, STERN >from Burgenland
SABAT(SABATH), NEUMANN >from Bohemia


CUKIERMAN, Siedlce Rabbi? #general

Isabel Cymerman
 

I'm trying to confirm that my gggfather, Pinkhes CUKIERMAN (circa
1840-1915) was a rabbi. He lived in Siedlce, Poland and surrounding
towns and may have used the surname "ZABAWNY" later in life. I've
checked the usual sources (the Wunder book) but have not been able to
document this.

Thank you.

Isabel Cymerman
isabelcym@aol.com


Searching for Sufonka #general

WALTER SPECTOR
 

Dear Genners,

Wolf STEINBERG came >from Sufonke in 1901

Where is Sufonke, Russia?

Walter Spector
Philadelphia
educonser@comcast.net

MODERATOR NOTE: Try the ShtetlSeeker database to help
find Sufonke. The town search is available at
< http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/loctown.htm >.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Russians to the Western States #general

Barbara Heinrich
 

My cousin told me about this link which tells the story of how many Russian
Jews came to Kansas and other western states.

http://www.kancoll.org/books/harris/sodcontents.htm

Barb Heinrich
Barb Gibian Heinrich,
bghheinrich@comcast.net
Buffalo Grove, Illinois

researching:GIBIANSKI, ETTENSON >from Suwalki,Vilkaviskis and Leavenworth
Kansas. SHAEFFER >from Riga, Latvia HEINRICH, LOEWY, STERN >from Burgenland
SABAT(SABATH), NEUMANN >from Bohemia


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen CUKIERMAN, Siedlce Rabbi? #general

Isabel Cymerman
 

I'm trying to confirm that my gggfather, Pinkhes CUKIERMAN (circa
1840-1915) was a rabbi. He lived in Siedlce, Poland and surrounding
towns and may have used the surname "ZABAWNY" later in life. I've
checked the usual sources (the Wunder book) but have not been able to
document this.

Thank you.

Isabel Cymerman
isabelcym@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching for Sufonka #general

WALTER SPECTOR
 

Dear Genners,

Wolf STEINBERG came >from Sufonke in 1901

Where is Sufonke, Russia?

Walter Spector
Philadelphia
educonser@comcast.net

MODERATOR NOTE: Try the ShtetlSeeker database to help
find Sufonke. The town search is available at
< http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/loctown.htm >.


Request for GerSIG news from Las Vegas #germany

gersig@...
 

To all GerSIG members attending the IAJGS Conference in Las Vegas:

Unfortunately I will not be attending the annual Conference. I would
appreciate those GerSIG members who do attend to help your fellow
members be informed of events of special interest to our group as
an organization and to our members' research.

If one or more of you would send reports back to me personally please
do so to gersig@aol.com.
Such private emails can be * very informal * but all items of interest
will be read with appreciation.

As Moderator I'll consider posting any messages sent to the Forum
<gersig@lyris.jewishgen.org> but, as always, those emails should conform
to list standards of conventional English grammar etc. and avoid
"argumentative" and excessively personal opinions regarding Conference events.

According to the Conference Planner at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/LV2005/planner.htm

the GerSIG Luncheon will be Monday 7/11 >from 12:30 - 2 p.m. This
conflicts with the Hungarian and Litvak SIG luncheons. A good report of
the GerSIG event will be much appreciated. Do we have a volunteer to provide that?

I'd like to call attention to Dr. Steven Baird's session on "Genealogy and Genetic
Diseases", Monday morning 8:15 - 9:30. Grandpa Steve is a special friend of GerSIG
and always an entertaining speaker.

*Wednesday* will bring several sessions not marked "GR" but of
potential interest to GerSIGgers who are also Early American SIG members:
"Jews of the West" 2 - 4:45 p.m.;
"State Archives and How to Use them" at 5 - 6:15 p.m. which conflicts with
"Family History on Deposit" 19th and early 20th Century Bank Records in
the same time slot.

GerSIG Coordinator Karen Franklin will offer several presentations in
Las Vegas and former "Stammbaum" Editor Carol Baird is another member-speaker.

Looking ahead, Wednesday at 8:15 a.m. will offer a preview of the 2006
Conference in New York City.

Please send us your impressions of the Las Vegas event and your
suggestions for NYC 2006.

Las Vegas has a slogan: "what happens here stays here" but I hope many of you
will take exception to the slimy slogan and send:

Personal comments - informal reports to <gersig@aol.com>

Formal reports of Conference events of special interest to GerSIG
<gersig@lyris.jewishgen.org>

John Paul Lowens, Suburban NYC, GerSIG Coordinator and Moderator "MOD1"
<gersig@aol.com>


German SIG #Germany Request for GerSIG news from Las Vegas #germany

gersig@...
 

To all GerSIG members attending the IAJGS Conference in Las Vegas:

Unfortunately I will not be attending the annual Conference. I would
appreciate those GerSIG members who do attend to help your fellow
members be informed of events of special interest to our group as
an organization and to our members' research.

If one or more of you would send reports back to me personally please
do so to gersig@aol.com.
Such private emails can be * very informal * but all items of interest
will be read with appreciation.

As Moderator I'll consider posting any messages sent to the Forum
<gersig@lyris.jewishgen.org> but, as always, those emails should conform
to list standards of conventional English grammar etc. and avoid
"argumentative" and excessively personal opinions regarding Conference events.

According to the Conference Planner at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/LV2005/planner.htm

the GerSIG Luncheon will be Monday 7/11 >from 12:30 - 2 p.m. This
conflicts with the Hungarian and Litvak SIG luncheons. A good report of
the GerSIG event will be much appreciated. Do we have a volunteer to provide that?

I'd like to call attention to Dr. Steven Baird's session on "Genealogy and Genetic
Diseases", Monday morning 8:15 - 9:30. Grandpa Steve is a special friend of GerSIG
and always an entertaining speaker.

*Wednesday* will bring several sessions not marked "GR" but of
potential interest to GerSIGgers who are also Early American SIG members:
"Jews of the West" 2 - 4:45 p.m.;
"State Archives and How to Use them" at 5 - 6:15 p.m. which conflicts with
"Family History on Deposit" 19th and early 20th Century Bank Records in
the same time slot.

GerSIG Coordinator Karen Franklin will offer several presentations in
Las Vegas and former "Stammbaum" Editor Carol Baird is another member-speaker.

Looking ahead, Wednesday at 8:15 a.m. will offer a preview of the 2006
Conference in New York City.

Please send us your impressions of the Las Vegas event and your
suggestions for NYC 2006.

Las Vegas has a slogan: "what happens here stays here" but I hope many of you
will take exception to the slimy slogan and send:

Personal comments - informal reports to <gersig@aol.com>

Formal reports of Conference events of special interest to GerSIG
<gersig@lyris.jewishgen.org>

John Paul Lowens, Suburban NYC, GerSIG Coordinator and Moderator "MOD1"
<gersig@aol.com>


CUKIERMAN, Siedlce Rabbi? #rabbinic

Isabel Cymerman
 

Can anyone confirm that my gggf Pinkhus CUKIERMAN (circa 1840-1915)
was a rabbi? He lived in Siedlce, Poland and surrounding towns and
may have used the surname "ZABAWNY" later in life. I've checked the
usual sources (the Wunder book) but have not found any confirmation.

Please reply privately.

Isabel Cymerman
isabelcym@aol.com


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic CUKIERMAN, Siedlce Rabbi? #rabbinic

Isabel Cymerman
 

Can anyone confirm that my gggf Pinkhus CUKIERMAN (circa 1840-1915)
was a rabbi? He lived in Siedlce, Poland and surrounding towns and
may have used the surname "ZABAWNY" later in life. I've checked the
usual sources (the Wunder book) but have not found any confirmation.

Please reply privately.

Isabel Cymerman
isabelcym@aol.com


Re: Broken Branches #general

jeremy frankel
 

Stan Goodman noted:

A broken branch is an obvious symbol for a truncated life. One sees in
Christian cemeteries monuments in the form of a cut-off treetrunk, which
convey a similar feeling. If by "significance" you mean religious meaning,
there is none.
And Ann Citron wrote:

This type of monuments are common in Jewish cemeteries (at least in the US)
as well.
If Jews ever thought that this was a "Christian symbol" that might
explain why in some London Jewish cemeteries, instead of a broken
branch, one sees a broken column (as in an architectural style
column).

I have a cousin who died at age 26 in 1918. His gravestone features a
square four-sided block (four feet high) surmounted with five feet
tall column. The column also has a "wreath" slid over it.

If anyone is really interested I can email them a photograph of this example.

Jeremy G Frankel
ex-London, England
Berkeley, California, USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen re: Broken Branches #general

jeremy frankel
 

Stan Goodman noted:

A broken branch is an obvious symbol for a truncated life. One sees in
Christian cemeteries monuments in the form of a cut-off treetrunk, which
convey a similar feeling. If by "significance" you mean religious meaning,
there is none.
And Ann Citron wrote:

This type of monuments are common in Jewish cemeteries (at least in the US)
as well.
If Jews ever thought that this was a "Christian symbol" that might
explain why in some London Jewish cemeteries, instead of a broken
branch, one sees a broken column (as in an architectural style
column).

I have a cousin who died at age 26 in 1918. His gravestone features a
square four-sided block (four feet high) surmounted with five feet
tall column. The column also has a "wreath" slid over it.

If anyone is really interested I can email them a photograph of this example.

Jeremy G Frankel
ex-London, England
Berkeley, California, USA