Date   

Lithuania SIG #Lithuania RE: Kinnui for Zusman #lithuania

Jrbaston
 

While there may be "very few people named Zusman" in the All Lithuania
Database (ALD), if you search for the given name Zusel you will get more
than 2,200 search results.

Zusel was a common diminutive for Zusman. My father was born
Zusman Bastunski in Eisiskes (now Lithuania) in 1905. When he
came to the U.S. in 1922 (with papers listing him as Zusel Bastunski),
he changed his name to Alexander Sussman Baston.

The Alexander part of his American name reflects the connection
between the name Alexander and the given names Ziskind, Zuskind
and Zusman. In my father's certificate >from an electro-teknik
institute in Lida, his name was listed as Zusman Alexander
Bastunski.

Judy Baston
San Francisco, CA



Peter Cohen writes:

<< I have been trying to locate Zusman Rotkovitz of Mikhaliskis
Lithuania, born in the late 1830s or 1840s. The only thing I know
about him is that his name appears as the father of Hyman Rothkowitz
(1870 - 1942). i.e. Chaim Boruch ben Zusman.

Not only do I not see anyone named Zusman Rotkowitz in the ALD or any
of the Vilna area data, there are very few people named Zusman in the
ALD. This leads me to suspect that there is a kinnui for Zusman, and
if he appears in any of our databases,it is under some other name
than Zusman.

I have seen a reference that says Zelig can be a kinnui for Zusman.
Are there any other names that could be kinnuim for Zusman? >>


Re: Kinnui for Zusman #lithuania

Jrbaston
 

While there may be "very few people named Zusman" in the All Lithuania
Database (ALD), if you search for the given name Zusel you will get more
than 2,200 search results.

Zusel was a common diminutive for Zusman. My father was born
Zusman Bastunski in Eisiskes (now Lithuania) in 1905. When he
came to the U.S. in 1922 (with papers listing him as Zusel Bastunski),
he changed his name to Alexander Sussman Baston.

The Alexander part of his American name reflects the connection
between the name Alexander and the given names Ziskind, Zuskind
and Zusman. In my father's certificate >from an electro-teknik
institute in Lida, his name was listed as Zusman Alexander
Bastunski.

Judy Baston
San Francisco, CA



Peter Cohen writes:

<< I have been trying to locate Zusman Rotkovitz of Mikhaliskis
Lithuania, born in the late 1830s or 1840s. The only thing I know
about him is that his name appears as the father of Hyman Rothkowitz
(1870 - 1942). i.e. Chaim Boruch ben Zusman.

Not only do I not see anyone named Zusman Rotkowitz in the ALD or any
of the Vilna area data, there are very few people named Zusman in the
ALD. This leads me to suspect that there is a kinnui for Zusman, and
if he appears in any of our databases,it is under some other name
than Zusman.

I have seen a reference that says Zelig can be a kinnui for Zusman.
Are there any other names that could be kinnuim for Zusman? >>


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Re: Kinnui for Zusman #lithuania

Judith Singer
 

Check the JewishGEN Given Names Database (GNDB) for Zusman and you'll
see it has been used as a kinnui for Azreyl, Eliezer, Imanueyl,
Meshulam, Yekusieyl, and Yoeyl, and as a variant of Zisman. Each of
the root names has a number of variations, nicknames, and spellings,
as does Zusman itself (17, in fact, just for Zusman). The GNDB is an
invaluable resource provided for free to the public by JewishGEN at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/GivenNames/search.htm.

Judith Singer


Re: Kinnui for Zusman #lithuania

Judith Singer
 

Check the JewishGEN Given Names Database (GNDB) for Zusman and you'll
see it has been used as a kinnui for Azreyl, Eliezer, Imanueyl,
Meshulam, Yekusieyl, and Yoeyl, and as a variant of Zisman. Each of
the root names has a number of variations, nicknames, and spellings,
as does Zusman itself (17, in fact, just for Zusman). The GNDB is an
invaluable resource provided for free to the public by JewishGEN at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/GivenNames/search.htm.

Judith Singer


New research book on Amazon #hungary

alexpmiller@...
 

My book "Living Tree" is now available on Amazon.

It contains thirty years of research results in Northeast Hungary and
Transylvania.

Proceeds to H-SIG

Alex Miller, PA

Moderator: This is a one-time mention of a commercial project. Please contact Alex
if you have questions.


Hungary SIG #Hungary New research book on Amazon #hungary

alexpmiller@...
 

My book "Living Tree" is now available on Amazon.

It contains thirty years of research results in Northeast Hungary and
Transylvania.

Proceeds to H-SIG

Alex Miller, PA

Moderator: This is a one-time mention of a commercial project. Please contact Alex
if you have questions.


Rabbi Benjamin Wolf Low of Verbo #hungary

lreich@...
 

Amit Naor recently inquired.....,

"........ that one of my
ancestors, Rabbi Baruch Bernat Lichtenstein of Nagy-Kosztolan (modern
dat Velke Kostolany, Slovakia, b.1812 d. 1890), was the son-in-law of
the aforementioned Rabbi Benjamin Wolf Low >from Verbo, the author of
"Shaare Torah".
I would like to try and locate the family tree of Rabbi Low, and
understand which daughter was it that married Rabbi Lichtenstein. What
was her name? When was she born? ........ If anyone could direct
me to records of the Lichtenstein family it would also be amazing, and
all kinds of general information about the Rabbi, which I have failed
to find. ............."

Some details about these rabbis can be found in the following (Hebrew)
books.

Chachmei Hungaria by YY Cohen published in 1997

Shem Hagdolim Lechacmei Hungaria by YY (Leopold0 Grunwald

Otzar Harabonim by Friedman - entries 3840 and 4114

There are probably more but these came up first in a quick search in my
library.

The daughter's name is not mentioned. The dates above, 1812-1890, seem
improbable as the sources state the R' Lichenstein died early in life
(B'dmay yomov)

Leslie Reich, Manchester


Corrections to JewishGen Hungary Database #hungary

Vivian Kahn
 

Tom raises a good point that should probably be addressed on the Support =
Center page
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen/Support.htm or in the instructions =
for submitting databases at=20
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/$description.html. =20

Because of the large number of records in the JewishGen database and the =
very limited number of
paid staff and technically-savvy volunteers, it=92s difficult to make =
individual corrections. When corrections are
warranted, it is usually necessary to replace the entire record set, =
which is a slow process.

Researchers should be aware, however, that in some cases what appears to =
be an error does, in fact, indicate what appears in
the actual record. The general rule for transcription is to keep the =
transcript as close to the original as possible.
When a clarification is needed, this information should be noted in the =
comments column. See the general
Transcription rules at =
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/$Transcription.html

If you find what you believe is an error in the Hungary Database, please =
contact me off-list and I will forward an inquiry to the=20
appropriate project coordinator in order to determine if a correction is =
needed and, if so, to take action.=20

Vivian Kahn, Oakland, California
JewishGen Hungarian SIG Coordinator

On Aug 18, 2014, at 11:04 PM, H-SIG digest <h-sig@...> =
wrote:

Subject: corrections to all-hungary database?
From: tomk@...
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 09:57:39 -0400
X-Message-Number: 2
=20
i came across a data error in the all-hungary database (my ggm's=20
maiden name is misspelled, in such a way that soundex completely=20
misses it, making it, almost, impossible to find), and so i would=20
like to fix it.
=20
but nowhere could i find instructions on how to submit corrections or=20=
even a contact link for whoever is in charge of it, or even anything=20=
like a faq or infofile.
=20
perhaps someone could add information on how to submit ocrrections?
=20
=20
....... tom klein, toronto


Hungary SIG #Hungary Rabbi Benjamin Wolf Low of Verbo #hungary

lreich@...
 

Amit Naor recently inquired.....,

"........ that one of my
ancestors, Rabbi Baruch Bernat Lichtenstein of Nagy-Kosztolan (modern
dat Velke Kostolany, Slovakia, b.1812 d. 1890), was the son-in-law of
the aforementioned Rabbi Benjamin Wolf Low >from Verbo, the author of
"Shaare Torah".
I would like to try and locate the family tree of Rabbi Low, and
understand which daughter was it that married Rabbi Lichtenstein. What
was her name? When was she born? ........ If anyone could direct
me to records of the Lichtenstein family it would also be amazing, and
all kinds of general information about the Rabbi, which I have failed
to find. ............."

Some details about these rabbis can be found in the following (Hebrew)
books.

Chachmei Hungaria by YY Cohen published in 1997

Shem Hagdolim Lechacmei Hungaria by YY (Leopold0 Grunwald

Otzar Harabonim by Friedman - entries 3840 and 4114

There are probably more but these came up first in a quick search in my
library.

The daughter's name is not mentioned. The dates above, 1812-1890, seem
improbable as the sources state the R' Lichenstein died early in life
(B'dmay yomov)

Leslie Reich, Manchester


Hungary SIG #Hungary Corrections to JewishGen Hungary Database #hungary

Vivian Kahn
 

Tom raises a good point that should probably be addressed on the Support =
Center page
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen/Support.htm or in the instructions =
for submitting databases at=20
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/$description.html. =20

Because of the large number of records in the JewishGen database and the =
very limited number of
paid staff and technically-savvy volunteers, it=92s difficult to make =
individual corrections. When corrections are
warranted, it is usually necessary to replace the entire record set, =
which is a slow process.

Researchers should be aware, however, that in some cases what appears to =
be an error does, in fact, indicate what appears in
the actual record. The general rule for transcription is to keep the =
transcript as close to the original as possible.
When a clarification is needed, this information should be noted in the =
comments column. See the general
Transcription rules at =
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/$Transcription.html

If you find what you believe is an error in the Hungary Database, please =
contact me off-list and I will forward an inquiry to the=20
appropriate project coordinator in order to determine if a correction is =
needed and, if so, to take action.=20

Vivian Kahn, Oakland, California
JewishGen Hungarian SIG Coordinator

On Aug 18, 2014, at 11:04 PM, H-SIG digest <h-sig@...> =
wrote:

Subject: corrections to all-hungary database?
From: tomk@...
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 09:57:39 -0400
X-Message-Number: 2
=20
i came across a data error in the all-hungary database (my ggm's=20
maiden name is misspelled, in such a way that soundex completely=20
misses it, making it, almost, impossible to find), and so i would=20
like to fix it.
=20
but nowhere could i find instructions on how to submit corrections or=20=
even a contact link for whoever is in charge of it, or even anything=20=
like a faq or infofile.
=20
perhaps someone could add information on how to submit ocrrections?
=20
=20
....... tom klein, toronto


Re: translation to English #hungary

smartlines@...
 

It's a "haszonbérlõ" with proper accents (if they go through at all).
Leaseholder in English. In those years Jews were not allowed to buy land but
they could rent it out.
There's another profession, often causing headache to researchers: the
"regálé-bérlõ". When Hungary was a Kingdom, people could buy a concession to
collect "royal" revenues (e.g. sale of salt, mining, etc.) on behalf of the
Treasury or various taxes on behalf of the local landowner. Sort of a tax
collector. In England it might not be a widespread practise as the English
is using a French world "Droit de regale" for that. More on
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Droit_de_r%C3%A9gale

András Hirschler
Budapest



Subject: translation to english
From: klarmann@...
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 21:43:09 -0400
X-Message-Number: 3

Dear Genners,

I would appreciate some help in understanding a hungarian word I found
describing the job of a member of my family in Poklostelke, Hungary
(Transylvania) around 1850, listed as " HASSZAUBERL" in a record of that
time.

Thanks in advance

Mario Klarmann
Santiago, Chile


RESEARCHING:
KLARMANN and APFELBAUM (both Transylvania)


Hungary SIG #Hungary RE: translation to English #hungary

smartlines@...
 

It's a "haszonbérlõ" with proper accents (if they go through at all).
Leaseholder in English. In those years Jews were not allowed to buy land but
they could rent it out.
There's another profession, often causing headache to researchers: the
"regálé-bérlõ". When Hungary was a Kingdom, people could buy a concession to
collect "royal" revenues (e.g. sale of salt, mining, etc.) on behalf of the
Treasury or various taxes on behalf of the local landowner. Sort of a tax
collector. In England it might not be a widespread practise as the English
is using a French world "Droit de regale" for that. More on
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Droit_de_r%C3%A9gale

András Hirschler
Budapest



Subject: translation to english
From: klarmann@...
Date: Sat, 16 Aug 2014 21:43:09 -0400
X-Message-Number: 3

Dear Genners,

I would appreciate some help in understanding a hungarian word I found
describing the job of a member of my family in Poklostelke, Hungary
(Transylvania) around 1850, listed as " HASSZAUBERL" in a record of that
time.

Thanks in advance

Mario Klarmann
Santiago, Chile


RESEARCHING:
KLARMANN and APFELBAUM (both Transylvania)


OCJGS Meeting August 24th: IAJGS Meeting Summary #general

Joel Weintraub
 

We're back >from Salt Lake City >from the IAJGS Conference and we have lots of
stories, experiences, new information and research tips to share with you.
Included is a slide show of the experience, just like you were there with
us. Please join us for an open talk and share your story with us. Sunday,
August 24th, 1:30 pm to 3:00 pm, Temple Bat Yahm, 1011 Camelback St, Newport
Beach 92660. Orange County (Ca) Jewish Genealogical Society.

Joel Weintraub
Dana Point, CA
census1950@...
https://sites.google.com/site/census1950/


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen OCJGS Meeting August 24th: IAJGS Meeting Summary #general

Joel Weintraub
 

We're back >from Salt Lake City >from the IAJGS Conference and we have lots of
stories, experiences, new information and research tips to share with you.
Included is a slide show of the experience, just like you were there with
us. Please join us for an open talk and share your story with us. Sunday,
August 24th, 1:30 pm to 3:00 pm, Temple Bat Yahm, 1011 Camelback St, Newport
Beach 92660. Orange County (Ca) Jewish Genealogical Society.

Joel Weintraub
Dana Point, CA
census1950@...
https://sites.google.com/site/census1950/


Re: 20 Dec 2010: Searching for family of origin-ABZUG?-& Death of Jennie SEYMOUR #general

Sal & Ellen Barbieri <elsal@...>
 

Sadly, I must inform you that Jennie SEYMOUR of NY, NY died on 17 Aug 2014 after a
3 month illness. She was just 2 months short of her 88th birthday. I answered her
posting below and offered to help as I am a New Yorker & do a lot of NY research.
We have remained in touch ever since. I met Jennie & David Priever 2 years ago to
brainstorm. Jennie was a petite, feisty lady with a lot of determination & energy.
She was convinced that since she started her life at Bellevue & I am a Bellevue
nurse that it was a good omen & meant to be. Many people helped her enormously
over her 60 year search. I don't know everyone's names but wish to acknowledge &
thank the ones she often mentioned to me. They are: Jim Yarin, Gary Mokotoff,
David Saunders, Eileen Gilbert, Barbara Zimmer, Guy Haber, David Priever, Gaye
Tannenbaum, many members of NYJGS, Joyce, Carla & Carol Barbieri >from JCCA. She
was assisted by the staff at various libraries & organizations & had an endearing
way of soliciting their help. No service planned per her daughter in FL.
Jennie died knowing her birth name.
Ellen Barbieri
Researcher #8682
San Diego, CA

Hello- I was a foundling. In 1926, left at 57 E. 100 St. by young unidentified girl
about 18 with a Mrs. Jennie SHULMAN. She failed to return & Nov 4th policeman
brought me to Bellevue Hospital where I remained for 3 weeks. My photo appeared on
front page of NY Daily Mirror. I was then transferred to Hebrew Home for Infants in
Bronx for a month. I first learned of name Jennie ABZUG when I obtained my Bellevue
discharge card but do not know if name was assigned. I have been searching records
my entire adult life & would like to know the truth about my identity.

Adopted at age 3. I have searched at NYPL, Municipal Archives, American-Jewish
Historical Society, John Jay College of Medicine police records, Jewish Child
Care Assoc, Louise Wise Adoption Agency. I know this info may not be of interest
to most people, but I need to get it out in the hope that someone may know
something meaningful, anything.
My sincere thanks. Jennie Seymour


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: 20 Dec 2010: Searching for family of origin-ABZUG?-& Death of Jennie SEYMOUR #general

Sal & Ellen Barbieri <elsal@...>
 

Sadly, I must inform you that Jennie SEYMOUR of NY, NY died on 17 Aug 2014 after a
3 month illness. She was just 2 months short of her 88th birthday. I answered her
posting below and offered to help as I am a New Yorker & do a lot of NY research.
We have remained in touch ever since. I met Jennie & David Priever 2 years ago to
brainstorm. Jennie was a petite, feisty lady with a lot of determination & energy.
She was convinced that since she started her life at Bellevue & I am a Bellevue
nurse that it was a good omen & meant to be. Many people helped her enormously
over her 60 year search. I don't know everyone's names but wish to acknowledge &
thank the ones she often mentioned to me. They are: Jim Yarin, Gary Mokotoff,
David Saunders, Eileen Gilbert, Barbara Zimmer, Guy Haber, David Priever, Gaye
Tannenbaum, many members of NYJGS, Joyce, Carla & Carol Barbieri >from JCCA. She
was assisted by the staff at various libraries & organizations & had an endearing
way of soliciting their help. No service planned per her daughter in FL.
Jennie died knowing her birth name.
Ellen Barbieri
Researcher #8682
San Diego, CA

Hello- I was a foundling. In 1926, left at 57 E. 100 St. by young unidentified girl
about 18 with a Mrs. Jennie SHULMAN. She failed to return & Nov 4th policeman
brought me to Bellevue Hospital where I remained for 3 weeks. My photo appeared on
front page of NY Daily Mirror. I was then transferred to Hebrew Home for Infants in
Bronx for a month. I first learned of name Jennie ABZUG when I obtained my Bellevue
discharge card but do not know if name was assigned. I have been searching records
my entire adult life & would like to know the truth about my identity.

Adopted at age 3. I have searched at NYPL, Municipal Archives, American-Jewish
Historical Society, John Jay College of Medicine police records, Jewish Child
Care Assoc, Louise Wise Adoption Agency. I know this info may not be of interest
to most people, but I need to get it out in the hope that someone may know
something meaningful, anything.
My sincere thanks. Jennie Seymour


Reminder. Next Sunday's BALLS POND RD N1 cemetery visit. #unitedkingdom

Raymond Montanjees
 

Dear interested Members,

I will be at the Balls Pond Rd cemetery - which is actually located in
Kingsbury Rd off the BPR (Dalston Junction end) - next Sunday the 24th at 1pm.
Please RSVP if you wish to come along. Thank you.

Our chairlady Doreen Berger wrote an excellent article for SHEMOT in 2002
about the history of and the internees within. (Vol 10 no.3). Doreen will
be making a guest appearance to give us a guided tour on the day.

I will have to lock the gate behind us as we trek around - so here is my
mobile number should we be at the back of the cemetery.
07940520589
Regards,

Raymond Montanjees
Researching.

Paternal:
MONTANHES _ MONTANJEES/VAN PRAAG(H)/KURTZ/PIZER/TOF(F)LER_TAF(F)LER

Maternal:
ISAACS/JESSEL/LEVY


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Reminder. Next Sunday's BALLS POND RD N1 cemetery visit. #unitedkingdom

Raymond Montanjees
 

Dear interested Members,

I will be at the Balls Pond Rd cemetery - which is actually located in
Kingsbury Rd off the BPR (Dalston Junction end) - next Sunday the 24th at 1pm.
Please RSVP if you wish to come along. Thank you.

Our chairlady Doreen Berger wrote an excellent article for SHEMOT in 2002
about the history of and the internees within. (Vol 10 no.3). Doreen will
be making a guest appearance to give us a guided tour on the day.

I will have to lock the gate behind us as we trek around - so here is my
mobile number should we be at the back of the cemetery.
07940520589
Regards,

Raymond Montanjees
Researching.

Paternal:
MONTANHES _ MONTANJEES/VAN PRAAG(H)/KURTZ/PIZER/TOF(F)LER_TAF(F)LER

Maternal:
ISAACS/JESSEL/LEVY


Ancestry.com to keep My Canvas--Transferring it to Alexander's #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

In June, Ancestry.com announced it was "retiring" several of its products
effective this September including MyCanvas. As a result of the many customers
who expressed a desire to retain MyCanvas, Ancestry has announced MyCanvas is not
going to go away-rather it will have a new home-Alexander's. Alexander's is a
Utah-based printing production company that has been the long-term printer of
MyCanvas products including its genealogy books, calendars, and other printed
products. In addition, MyCanvas will continue to be available >from the
Ancestry.com website. The transition of MyCanvas will take about six months. But in
the meantime, all MyCanvas projects will remain accessible on Ancestry.com until it
moves over to Alexander's next year.

MyCanvas is Ancestry's product for publishing one's family history books
,posters, calendars and photobooks.

To read more about this go to:
http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2014/08/19/mycanvas-is-sticking-around/

I have no affiliation with Ancestry.com and am posting this for the
information of the reader.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

MODERATOR NOTE: Like all the other messages >from the IAJGS Public Records Access
Monitoring Committee, this message is for informational purposes only.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Ancestry.com to keep My Canvas--Transferring it to Alexander's #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

In June, Ancestry.com announced it was "retiring" several of its products
effective this September including MyCanvas. As a result of the many customers
who expressed a desire to retain MyCanvas, Ancestry has announced MyCanvas is not
going to go away-rather it will have a new home-Alexander's. Alexander's is a
Utah-based printing production company that has been the long-term printer of
MyCanvas products including its genealogy books, calendars, and other printed
products. In addition, MyCanvas will continue to be available >from the
Ancestry.com website. The transition of MyCanvas will take about six months. But in
the meantime, all MyCanvas projects will remain accessible on Ancestry.com until it
moves over to Alexander's next year.

MyCanvas is Ancestry's product for publishing one's family history books
,posters, calendars and photobooks.

To read more about this go to:
http://blogs.ancestry.com/ancestry/2014/08/19/mycanvas-is-sticking-around/

I have no affiliation with Ancestry.com and am posting this for the
information of the reader.

Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

MODERATOR NOTE: Like all the other messages >from the IAJGS Public Records Access
Monitoring Committee, this message is for informational purposes only.

119361 - 119380 of 672003