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Re: test new topic

Ariel Parkansky
 

Hi Rachel,

I created the test topic by sending directly a mail to main@jewishgen.groups.io

Now I'm replying to the topic directly from the full digest by using the reply link.

Best,
Ariel 


Searching Goldstein #galicia

Stuart Kaufer
 

Just learned about a new to me family member.

Lillian Kaufer was a sister of my paternal GF Edward Kaufer and daughter
of Salomon and Rebecca Kaufer. She married Joseph Goldstein and they
had 3 children:

Mannie who died in LA, no spousal or other information
Gertrude Goldstein, no spousal or other information
Anna Goldstein Tenny who married Kenneth Tenny and lived at 5420 N
Sheridan Rd. Chicago.

Anyone know of the whereabouts of children of these folks? Thanks.

Stuart Kaufer


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Searching Goldstein #galicia

Stuart Kaufer
 

Just learned about a new to me family member.

Lillian Kaufer was a sister of my paternal GF Edward Kaufer and daughter
of Salomon and Rebecca Kaufer. She married Joseph Goldstein and they
had 3 children:

Mannie who died in LA, no spousal or other information
Gertrude Goldstein, no spousal or other information
Anna Goldstein Tenny who married Kenneth Tenny and lived at 5420 N
Sheridan Rd. Chicago.

Anyone know of the whereabouts of children of these folks? Thanks.

Stuart Kaufer


(US) National Archives Hosts Virtual Genealogy Fair October 23, 2019 Free and Online

Jan Meisels Allen
 

 

The (US) National Archives will host their 7th annual live virtual Genealogy Fair via a webcast on their YouTube Channel

(https://www.youtube.com/user/usnationalarchives).  This is their biggest genealogy event of the year!  This year there will be sessions on preserving personal collections; using records on immigration, World War l, soldiers and marines; Homestead Act and more.

 

Date and Time:  October 23, 2019  10 AM EDT  ( use  http://www.timezoneconverter.com/cgi-bin/tzc to convert to your local time)

In addition to the YouTube station (see URL above) you can visit the webpage https://www.archives.gov/calendar/genealogy-fair

For more information and handouts will be available on this page later this summer.

 

Participants can watch individual sessions, download materials, ask questions, and interact with presenters and other family historians. No need to register - just click and view! If you can’t make it on September 23 the videos and handouts will remain available after the event.

 

Jan Meisels Allen

Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

 

 

 


Offering Photos / Research at Mount Zion Cemetery, Maspeth , New York #general

A. E. Jordan
 

I am going to be heading back to Mt Zion Cemetery in Maspeth, Queens,
New York and am willing to take photos for people.

I am happy to look for graves and take photos provided you can ID the
appropriate person. Mount Zion has a database where you can start with
your research but be aware while the year is always correct, their
database defaults to the first day ofthe month when a date is not
specified or the first day of the year when a month is not specified.
So if they did not have complete data when they were entering the person
into the database you might see the date as the first or it as January 1
when your research says a different date >from the death certificate or
such. Also a lot of times the date differs >from the death certificate
because the database mostly has date of burial not date of death.

I am pretty good at finding my way around in Mount Zion but some spots
can allude even the best searcher. But still I try. Infants, babies and
children are the most difficult because a lot of times they did not have
as significant stones and they do not survive the years. Some areas of
Zion also unfortunately do not have maps.

Please be specific in your requests because I can not help you if you
write with a common name and say can you find for example Harry Cohen
.... you can guess how many there are in this cemetery. Mount Zion
Cemetery has more than 210,000 burials on its 78 acres.

If you know it is a child's grave please identify it as such when you
contact me.

I do appreciate but do not demand a few dollars in return to help offset
the cost of doing these search for everyone and to make it possible for
me to continue to offer this as a service to the community. As you can
understand the costs of these repeated searches add up on me.

I am also happy to offer advice online if you email me. As I said I have
been through Mount Zion enough to know what's possible and also some
tricks on how to locate people in the database.

Allan Jordan


Offering Photos / Research at New Montefiore, West Babylon, New York #general

A. E. Jordan
 

I am going to try and make a visit to New Montefiore Cemetery in West
Babylon, NY in the coming weeks.

I am happy to look for graves and take photos provided you can ID the
appropriate person. New Montefiore has a database where you can start
with your research.

I am pretty good at finding my way around in New Montefiore as its
layout is logical if spread out. Infants, babies and children are the
most difficult because a lot of times they did not have as significant
stones and they do not survive the years.

Please be specific in your requests because I can not help you if you
write with a common name and say can you find for example Harry Cohen
.... you can guess how many there are in a cemetery as large as New
Montefiore. I will also double check the database but please be sure
to make it clear if the request is New Montefiore or Old Montefiore
because the two cemeteries are something like 30 miles apart.

If you know it is a child's grave please identify it as such when you
contact me.

I do appreciate but do not demand a few dollars in return to help offset
the cost of doing these search for everyone and to make it possible for
me to continue to offer this as a service to the community. As you can
understand the costs of these repeated searches add up on me.

I am also happy to offer advice online if you email me.

Allan Jordan


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Offering Photos / Research at Mount Zion Cemetery, Maspeth , New York #general

A. E. Jordan
 

I am going to be heading back to Mt Zion Cemetery in Maspeth, Queens,
New York and am willing to take photos for people.

I am happy to look for graves and take photos provided you can ID the
appropriate person. Mount Zion has a database where you can start with
your research but be aware while the year is always correct, their
database defaults to the first day ofthe month when a date is not
specified or the first day of the year when a month is not specified.
So if they did not have complete data when they were entering the person
into the database you might see the date as the first or it as January 1
when your research says a different date >from the death certificate or
such. Also a lot of times the date differs >from the death certificate
because the database mostly has date of burial not date of death.

I am pretty good at finding my way around in Mount Zion but some spots
can allude even the best searcher. But still I try. Infants, babies and
children are the most difficult because a lot of times they did not have
as significant stones and they do not survive the years. Some areas of
Zion also unfortunately do not have maps.

Please be specific in your requests because I can not help you if you
write with a common name and say can you find for example Harry Cohen
.... you can guess how many there are in this cemetery. Mount Zion
Cemetery has more than 210,000 burials on its 78 acres.

If you know it is a child's grave please identify it as such when you
contact me.

I do appreciate but do not demand a few dollars in return to help offset
the cost of doing these search for everyone and to make it possible for
me to continue to offer this as a service to the community. As you can
understand the costs of these repeated searches add up on me.

I am also happy to offer advice online if you email me. As I said I have
been through Mount Zion enough to know what's possible and also some
tricks on how to locate people in the database.

Allan Jordan


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Offering Photos / Research at New Montefiore, West Babylon, New York #general

A. E. Jordan
 

I am going to try and make a visit to New Montefiore Cemetery in West
Babylon, NY in the coming weeks.

I am happy to look for graves and take photos provided you can ID the
appropriate person. New Montefiore has a database where you can start
with your research.

I am pretty good at finding my way around in New Montefiore as its
layout is logical if spread out. Infants, babies and children are the
most difficult because a lot of times they did not have as significant
stones and they do not survive the years.

Please be specific in your requests because I can not help you if you
write with a common name and say can you find for example Harry Cohen
.... you can guess how many there are in a cemetery as large as New
Montefiore. I will also double check the database but please be sure
to make it clear if the request is New Montefiore or Old Montefiore
because the two cemeteries are something like 30 miles apart.

If you know it is a child's grave please identify it as such when you
contact me.

I do appreciate but do not demand a few dollars in return to help offset
the cost of doing these search for everyone and to make it possible for
me to continue to offer this as a service to the community. As you can
understand the costs of these repeated searches add up on me.

I am also happy to offer advice online if you email me.

Allan Jordan


Marriage, religious and civil #unitedkingdom

Pierre HAHN
 

Hi

I have the following information on a religious marriage in Paris France

On 26-Dec-1877 (20 Tevet 5638) at Nazareth Synagogue

Joseph ARBIB, born in Gibraltar and residing in London

Married

? FIELDER, born in London and residing in London.

Now the questions

In France one needs a civil marriage to be “married”, what is the law
in England?

No French civil record yet found. Is there a British civil record to be found?

Thanks for any help.

Pierre M HAHN, San Francisco, ID #: 61767


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Marriage, religious and civil #unitedkingdom

Pierre HAHN
 

Hi

I have the following information on a religious marriage in Paris France

On 26-Dec-1877 (20 Tevet 5638) at Nazareth Synagogue

Joseph ARBIB, born in Gibraltar and residing in London

Married

? FIELDER, born in London and residing in London.

Now the questions

In France one needs a civil marriage to be “married”, what is the law
in England?

No French civil record yet found. Is there a British civil record to be found?

Thanks for any help.

Pierre M HAHN, San Francisco, ID #: 61767


Re: finding address of resident who left in 1930s #lodz #poland

Regina Brooker <rbroo@...>
 

Have you tried the Lodz Registration cards that are on line? They are
from 1921. If you go to JRI Lodz and put in his last name you can see
if he has a registration card.

Regina Brooker Hudson

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Go to www.jri-poland.org, and click on Search,
then Search the Database at the top of the page. On the search
form, enter the surname, and then choose Town and enter Lodz.


Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland Re: finding address of resident who left in 1930s #lodz #poland

Regina Brooker <rbroo@...>
 

Have you tried the Lodz Registration cards that are on line? They are
from 1921. If you go to JRI Lodz and put in his last name you can see
if he has a registration card.

Regina Brooker Hudson

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Go to www.jri-poland.org, and click on Search,
then Search the Database at the top of the page. On the search
form, enter the surname, and then choose Town and enter Lodz.


Re: finding address of Lodz resident who left in 1930s #lodz #poland

Jean-Pierre Stroweis
 

Hello,

Gideon Miller asked how to find Lodz pre-war addresses.
There is a 1939 map of Lodz on YIVO encyclopedia web site at
http://www.yivoencyclopedia.org/maps.aspx

Jean-Pierre Stroweis
Jerusalem, Israel


Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland Re: finding address of Lodz resident who left in 1930s #lodz #poland

Jean-Pierre Stroweis
 

Hello,

Gideon Miller asked how to find Lodz pre-war addresses.
There is a 1939 map of Lodz on YIVO encyclopedia web site at
http://www.yivoencyclopedia.org/maps.aspx

Jean-Pierre Stroweis
Jerusalem, Israel


Re: Lodz addresses #lodz #poland

Fay Bussgang
 

Search the Lodz Registration Cards on JRI-Poland.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Subject: finding address of resident who left in 1930s
From: "Gideon Miller" <gideon@inmill.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 22:53:18 +0300
X-Message-Number: 1

Hello,

I am trying to help my father in law who left Lodz as a small child in
1935. He will be visiting Lodz next month and would like to find the
house he was born in.

We have his parents' names and the address of his grandparents.

Any advice for finding the address of someone >from the pre-war years?
Thanks very much for any ideas,

Gideon Miller


Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland Re: Lodz addresses #lodz #poland

Fay Bussgang
 

Search the Lodz Registration Cards on JRI-Poland.

----------------------------------------------------------------------
Subject: finding address of resident who left in 1930s
From: "Gideon Miller" <gideon@inmill.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Aug 2019 22:53:18 +0300
X-Message-Number: 1

Hello,

I am trying to help my father in law who left Lodz as a small child in
1935. He will be visiting Lodz next month and would like to find the
house he was born in.

We have his parents' names and the address of his grandparents.

Any advice for finding the address of someone >from the pre-war years?
Thanks very much for any ideas,

Gideon Miller


Re: Lodz addresses #lodz #poland

Miriam Bulwar David-Hay
 

Re: Lodz addresses

Posting publicly because this may help others too.

Gideon Miller asks for help finding his father-in-law's address in
prewar Lodz. I've done a lot of research in Lodz because most of my
family was >from there (& of those who remained during the war years
sadly nearly all of them perished). I was just there a few months ago
for the first time with my 83-year-old mother - her first visit back
in over 60 years! As you can imagine it was very emotional (and not
always easy).

So to answer your question: I assume you're familiar with records
in JRI-Poland's database, especially the Lodz address cards from
1916-1921. Margalit Ashira Ir and her team of volunteers did a
brilliant job indexing them. So if you haven't done so already,
search
those: https://jri-poland.org/psa/lodz-registration-card-scans.htm

If you're looking for addresses later than that period, are you
familiar with Genealogy Indexer https://genealogyindexer.org/ ?
Another fabulous site, run by Logan Kleinwaks. It has address
directories including for Lodz right up to just before the war.

If you're looking for addresses of relatives who,like many of mine,
were unfortunate enough to be trapped in the ghetto, JewishGen, Yad
Vashem and the U.S. Holocaust Museum all have databases of addresses
in the Lodz ghetto, based on the census-like address books of
residents in the ghetto. The records in these three sites do overlap
but each also has records the others don't, so I'd search all
of them.

Personally I find the USHMM's website best for finding addresses in
the ghetto as you can send an email to get a copy of the document
immediately. You may also find home addresses on other documents, e.g.
The addresses of people registered as prisoners in a concentration
camp were often noted on their camp registration card.
https://www.ushmm.org/online/hsv/person_advance_search.php

Yad Vashem also has Pages of Testimony, written by survivors,
relatives and others to commemorate those who were killed, which the
USHMM doesn't have. Sometimes people stated their families' addresses
on those pages: https://yvng.yadvashem.org/

Of course, after all that, you want to go to the addresses physically.
So first check JewishGen's Lodz streets database, which will tell you
whether and how the street names have changed over the years (and
whether the street itself still exists!):
https://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/lodz/streets.htm

You can also find maps and photos of old Lodz online to see how things
looked then as compared to now.

Finally, Lodz is not a large city and it's not difficult to cover the
central/downtown area, the old town (Stare Miasto) and Baluty areas,
the areas where most Jews lived, on foot. In our case, my mother has
difficulty walking so we took a taxi (called via the hotel) and
traveled around to all the addresses she remembered and that I had dug
up through research. Of course I had a map with a route plotted. Some
of the buildings we went to had been pulled down and and there were
either empty lots or ugly communist-era apartment blocks on the site,
others were derelict shells of prewar buildings either about to be
pulled down or perhaps renovated, and others were original and
inhabited by locals. We were in the taxi for around 2 hours, stopping
in many places and sometimes getting out for a few minutes, and it
cost only around 100 zlotys. (Throughout our visit to Poland, we
always called taxis via our hotel, not off the street, and the drivers
always put the meter on. We found the drivers to be very polite and
the taxis very reasonably priced.)

I hope all the above helps and wish you the best of luck for your
father-in-law's own trip!

All the best,
Miriam Bulwar David-Hay,
Raanana, Israel.


Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland RE: Lodz addresses #lodz #poland

Miriam Bulwar David-Hay
 

Re: Lodz addresses

Posting publicly because this may help others too.

Gideon Miller asks for help finding his father-in-law's address in
prewar Lodz. I've done a lot of research in Lodz because most of my
family was >from there (& of those who remained during the war years
sadly nearly all of them perished). I was just there a few months ago
for the first time with my 83-year-old mother - her first visit back
in over 60 years! As you can imagine it was very emotional (and not
always easy).

So to answer your question: I assume you're familiar with records
in JRI-Poland's database, especially the Lodz address cards from
1916-1921. Margalit Ashira Ir and her team of volunteers did a
brilliant job indexing them. So if you haven't done so already,
search
those: https://jri-poland.org/psa/lodz-registration-card-scans.htm

If you're looking for addresses later than that period, are you
familiar with Genealogy Indexer https://genealogyindexer.org/ ?
Another fabulous site, run by Logan Kleinwaks. It has address
directories including for Lodz right up to just before the war.

If you're looking for addresses of relatives who,like many of mine,
were unfortunate enough to be trapped in the ghetto, JewishGen, Yad
Vashem and the U.S. Holocaust Museum all have databases of addresses
in the Lodz ghetto, based on the census-like address books of
residents in the ghetto. The records in these three sites do overlap
but each also has records the others don't, so I'd search all
of them.

Personally I find the USHMM's website best for finding addresses in
the ghetto as you can send an email to get a copy of the document
immediately. You may also find home addresses on other documents, e.g.
The addresses of people registered as prisoners in a concentration
camp were often noted on their camp registration card.
https://www.ushmm.org/online/hsv/person_advance_search.php

Yad Vashem also has Pages of Testimony, written by survivors,
relatives and others to commemorate those who were killed, which the
USHMM doesn't have. Sometimes people stated their families' addresses
on those pages: https://yvng.yadvashem.org/

Of course, after all that, you want to go to the addresses physically.
So first check JewishGen's Lodz streets database, which will tell you
whether and how the street names have changed over the years (and
whether the street itself still exists!):
https://kehilalinks.jewishgen.org/lodz/streets.htm

You can also find maps and photos of old Lodz online to see how things
looked then as compared to now.

Finally, Lodz is not a large city and it's not difficult to cover the
central/downtown area, the old town (Stare Miasto) and Baluty areas,
the areas where most Jews lived, on foot. In our case, my mother has
difficulty walking so we took a taxi (called via the hotel) and
traveled around to all the addresses she remembered and that I had dug
up through research. Of course I had a map with a route plotted. Some
of the buildings we went to had been pulled down and and there were
either empty lots or ugly communist-era apartment blocks on the site,
others were derelict shells of prewar buildings either about to be
pulled down or perhaps renovated, and others were original and
inhabited by locals. We were in the taxi for around 2 hours, stopping
in many places and sometimes getting out for a few minutes, and it
cost only around 100 zlotys. (Throughout our visit to Poland, we
always called taxis via our hotel, not off the street, and the drivers
always put the meter on. We found the drivers to be very polite and
the taxis very reasonably priced.)

I hope all the above helps and wish you the best of luck for your
father-in-law's own trip!

All the best,
Miriam Bulwar David-Hay,
Raanana, Israel.


ViewMate translation request - Russian_ #poland

Sonny Putter <sonny_putter@...>
 

I would appreciate an English translation of the Russian text for the
following four birth and marriage records. I would like a translation of
all the genealogically significant information.

They are on ViewMate at the following addresses:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM74724
PUTER-SZTUDEN 1899 marriage

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM74728
Moszko PUTER 1900 birth

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM74731
?Sonia PUTER 1904 birth

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM74725
Beniamin EJLBAUM 1899 birth


Please respond using the online ViewMate form.
Thank you very much.

Sinai (Sonny) PUTTER
Bellevue, Washington U.S.A.
sonny_putter@prodigy.net


JRI Poland #Poland ViewMate translation request - Russian_ #poland

Sonny Putter <sonny_putter@...>
 

I would appreciate an English translation of the Russian text for the
following four birth and marriage records. I would like a translation of
all the genealogically significant information.

They are on ViewMate at the following addresses:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM74724
PUTER-SZTUDEN 1899 marriage

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM74728
Moszko PUTER 1900 birth

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM74731
?Sonia PUTER 1904 birth

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM74725
Beniamin EJLBAUM 1899 birth


Please respond using the online ViewMate form.
Thank you very much.

Sinai (Sonny) PUTTER
Bellevue, Washington U.S.A.
sonny_putter@prodigy.net

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