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Re: Jewish Encyclopedia #general

Jacob D. Goldstein <jake@...>
 

On 2002.08.28 Stan Goodman <sgoodman@hashkedim.com> wrote:

Somehow I am not getting full use of the alphabetical index. I can
choose an initial letter for a topic, say T; I then have access to
four pages of topics, alphabetically arranged. In the case of T,
this gets me down to #38, Tam, Jacob b. David. It is very hard for
me to believe that there are no entries beginning with e.g. "Te".
The same is true of other initial letters.
They do seem to have a few problems... This one you can solve by
clicking on the dropdown menu and picking >from it another set of
four pages.

Jake Goldstein
Boston Massachusetts
Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Re: Jewish Encyclopedia #rabbinic

Jacob D. Goldstein <jake@...>
 

On 2002.08.28 Stan Goodman <sgoodman@hashkedim.com> wrote:

Somehow I am not getting full use of the alphabetical index. I can
choose an initial letter for a topic, say T; I then have access to
four pages of topics, alphabetically arranged. In the case of T,
this gets me down to #38, Tam, Jacob b. David. It is very hard for
me to believe that there are no entries beginning with e.g. "Te".
The same is true of other initial letters.
They do seem to have a few problems... This one you can solve by
clicking on the dropdown menu and picking >from it another set of
four pages.

Jake Goldstein
Boston Massachusetts
Jewish Encyclopedia Problems #rabbinic

NFatouros@...
 

I have written today to the operator(s) of the Jewish Encyclopedia.
In a short time I received a reply >from "Josh" who said that some
bugs still had to be worked out.

I was prompted to write because I too had a little trouble but I
am sure that when the technical problems are solved, searches will
be much easier.

Still, because different people wrote the articles, the spellings
of names of towns and persons throughout the encyclopedia are not
uniform.

For instance, when I typed in "Berdichev" turned up nothing. But
typing in "Berditchev" and "Berditchew" turned up several "hits".
(Eventually, I'll add to the information given under the main
Berditchev heading by "starting a discussion" as we are invited to
do for each topic.)

So, when I decided to do a search for the town "Kremenchug," I knew
from my experience with Berdichev to try first "Krementchug," and
thus I got quite a few "hits." ("Kremenchug" turned up nothing.)

When I first tried "BELKOWSKY" I got only one answer, which
concerned the Kharkov conference which my grandfather's cousin,
Gregor Zvi BELKOWSKY, had attended, under the heading "Zionism."
Most Jewish encyclopedias have biographical information about Gregor
Zvi under the spelling BELKOWSKY. I don't know how his name is
spelled in Hebrew, but I do have translations of the biographical
information given in a couple of Hebrew references. So, curious why
more about him did not appear at the site, today I tried typing in
"Zionism," and on the second "page" found the encyclopedia's quite
good biography of "Gregoire Zvi BELKOVSKY. I was pleased to see a
list of articles he'd written, some of which I did not know about
before, and I expect to create a discussion group about him. My
first attempt to fill out the Encyclopedia's message form to set up
a BELKOVSKY-BELKOWSKY-BIELKOWSKY Discussion Group and to update the
biographical information the Encyclopedia provides for Gregor Zvi
failed when I pressed the "send" button, but Josh assured me that
this sort of failure will be remedied.

So no one should be disappointed at their first tries at exploring
the Encyclopeida. Instead, everyone should use his or hers
imagination and attempt all the possible variants of names of towns
and people. Also try searching under a subject matter heading.
Something of interest is bound to turn up!

As for the articles, there is for instance, a very good one on
Jewish agricutural colonies in Russia, which I turned up simply by
typing "Agriculture" in the search box.

Naomi Fatouros (nee Feldman)
Bloomington, Indiana
mailto:NFatouros@aol.com

Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa and Berdichev;
ROTHSTEIN, Kremenchug; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL,
Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse; SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT,
Tarnopol, Korostyshev; BEHAM, Salok and Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY,
Ostryna.
Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Jewish Encyclopedia Problems #rabbinic

NFatouros@...
 

I have written today to the operator(s) of the Jewish Encyclopedia.
In a short time I received a reply >from "Josh" who said that some
bugs still had to be worked out.

I was prompted to write because I too had a little trouble but I
am sure that when the technical problems are solved, searches will
be much easier.

Still, because different people wrote the articles, the spellings
of names of towns and persons throughout the encyclopedia are not
uniform.

For instance, when I typed in "Berdichev" turned up nothing. But
typing in "Berditchev" and "Berditchew" turned up several "hits".
(Eventually, I'll add to the information given under the main
Berditchev heading by "starting a discussion" as we are invited to
do for each topic.)

So, when I decided to do a search for the town "Kremenchug," I knew
from my experience with Berdichev to try first "Krementchug," and
thus I got quite a few "hits." ("Kremenchug" turned up nothing.)

When I first tried "BELKOWSKY" I got only one answer, which
concerned the Kharkov conference which my grandfather's cousin,
Gregor Zvi BELKOWSKY, had attended, under the heading "Zionism."
Most Jewish encyclopedias have biographical information about Gregor
Zvi under the spelling BELKOWSKY. I don't know how his name is
spelled in Hebrew, but I do have translations of the biographical
information given in a couple of Hebrew references. So, curious why
more about him did not appear at the site, today I tried typing in
"Zionism," and on the second "page" found the encyclopedia's quite
good biography of "Gregoire Zvi BELKOVSKY. I was pleased to see a
list of articles he'd written, some of which I did not know about
before, and I expect to create a discussion group about him. My
first attempt to fill out the Encyclopedia's message form to set up
a BELKOVSKY-BELKOWSKY-BIELKOWSKY Discussion Group and to update the
biographical information the Encyclopedia provides for Gregor Zvi
failed when I pressed the "send" button, but Josh assured me that
this sort of failure will be remedied.

So no one should be disappointed at their first tries at exploring
the Encyclopeida. Instead, everyone should use his or hers
imagination and attempt all the possible variants of names of towns
and people. Also try searching under a subject matter heading.
Something of interest is bound to turn up!

As for the articles, there is for instance, a very good one on
Jewish agricutural colonies in Russia, which I turned up simply by
typing "Agriculture" in the search box.

Naomi Fatouros (nee Feldman)
Bloomington, Indiana
mailto:NFatouros@aol.com

Researching: BELKOWSKY and BIELKOWSKY, Odessa and Berdichev;
ROTHSTEIN, Kremenchug; FELDMAN, Pinsk; SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL,
Shcherets; LEVY, Mulhouse; SAS or SASS,Podwolochisk; RAPOPORT,
Tarnopol, Korostyshev; BEHAM, Salok and Kharkov; WOLPIANSKY,
Ostryna.
BINDER (CHASAN) - Bialystok to Brooklyn #belarus

Steve Gabai <sgabai@...>
 

I'm interested in Mary/Miriam Binder, most likely >from Bialystok. She was
born around 1863 and married Sol Chasan around 1880.

They had two children in Europe and immigrated to the US in the early 1890s.
They settled in Brooklyn where they had two more children.

Mary died around 1905 and Sol went on to marry two more times.

Respond privately.

Steve Gabai

Researching:

ABOUAF, ALGRANATI (ALGRANTI), BINDER, CARMONA, CHASAN (any
spelling, including SCHAEZEN), FINKELSTEIN (NYC), GABAI (GABBAI - GABAY),
GREENBAUM, GREENBERG, INSKY, MUSSAF (NJ), PERLSTEIN (PEARLSTEIN),
RATOVETSKY, ROUSSO (RUSSO), SCHIMSKY (SCHYMSKER - SCHETZENSKY), SCHRAPATZ
(SKROPOTICH), SHWARTZ, (SCHWARTZ), SILVER, SPECTOR & TARANTO
Belarus SIG #Belarus BINDER (CHASAN) - Bialystok to Brooklyn #belarus

Steve Gabai <sgabai@...>
 

I'm interested in Mary/Miriam Binder, most likely >from Bialystok. She was
born around 1863 and married Sol Chasan around 1880.

They had two children in Europe and immigrated to the US in the early 1890s.
They settled in Brooklyn where they had two more children.

Mary died around 1905 and Sol went on to marry two more times.

Respond privately.

Steve Gabai

Researching:

ABOUAF, ALGRANATI (ALGRANTI), BINDER, CARMONA, CHASAN (any
spelling, including SCHAEZEN), FINKELSTEIN (NYC), GABAI (GABBAI - GABAY),
GREENBAUM, GREENBERG, INSKY, MUSSAF (NJ), PERLSTEIN (PEARLSTEIN),
RATOVETSKY, ROUSSO (RUSSO), SCHIMSKY (SCHYMSKER - SCHETZENSKY), SCHRAPATZ
(SKROPOTICH), SHWARTZ, (SCHWARTZ), SILVER, SPECTOR & TARANTO
ABRAHAM JACOBS INFO POSTED ON VIEWMATE. NEED HELP READING. #belarus

rlberliner@...
 

Please view at
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/source/vm1734/35.html

Two items are posted on Viewmate regarding Abraham Jacobs. On his Death
Certificate, help is needed reading the given name and middle initial of
Abraham's father and the maiden name of his mother.

The second item is Abraham's obituary which shows Mollie as his widow. Her
maiden name or any other information about her is unknown to us.

It is possible that Abraham was related to Chaim/Hyman Jacobs who may have
been married to Sarah. If they are related, they could be brothers or father
and son.

Thank you for your suggestions of the spellings of these names. Hopefully,
there will also be a connection on these documents to a genner's family
records?

Please reply privately.

TIA for your responses.

Sincerely,
Rachelle Leaf Berliner
Savannah, GA
rlberliner@comcast.net
Abraham Jacobs - Viewmate Correction #belarus

rlberliner@...
 

When posting the Viewmate address I combined the two items and it should
have read:

please view at: http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/source/vm1734.html

and

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/source/vm1735.html

I apologize for inconveniencing anyone, particularly those genners kind
enough to view these and offer their help.

Thank you,
Rachelle Leaf Berliner
Belarus SIG #Belarus ABRAHAM JACOBS INFO POSTED ON VIEWMATE. NEED HELP READING. #belarus

rlberliner@...
 

Please view at
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/source/vm1734/35.html

Two items are posted on Viewmate regarding Abraham Jacobs. On his Death
Certificate, help is needed reading the given name and middle initial of
Abraham's father and the maiden name of his mother.

The second item is Abraham's obituary which shows Mollie as his widow. Her
maiden name or any other information about her is unknown to us.

It is possible that Abraham was related to Chaim/Hyman Jacobs who may have
been married to Sarah. If they are related, they could be brothers or father
and son.

Thank you for your suggestions of the spellings of these names. Hopefully,
there will also be a connection on these documents to a genner's family
records?

Please reply privately.

TIA for your responses.

Sincerely,
Rachelle Leaf Berliner
Savannah, GA
rlberliner@comcast.net
Belarus SIG #Belarus Abraham Jacobs - Viewmate Correction #belarus

rlberliner@...
 

When posting the Viewmate address I combined the two items and it should
have read:

please view at: http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/source/vm1734.html

and

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/ALL/source/vm1735.html

I apologize for inconveniencing anyone, particularly those genners kind
enough to view these and offer their help.

Thank you,
Rachelle Leaf Berliner
SAKIN,MENDELSON,PIVOVAR,BERLIN,ZOLOTAROV,DREKSLER,KAGAN,SINOVSKY, #belarus

Schelly Dardashti <dardasht@...>
 

Respectfully, we have always been told that each name should be in its
own header. This will enable those reading the headers to ascertain
whether that message is of interest or not. Only SAKIN and PIVOVAR have
been sent in the header. That means that those NOT interested in Sakin
or Pivovar, but possibly in the others, will NEVER read the list of new
names discovered. Only those interested in Sakin or Pivovar will see the
entire list of names. We are continually told to be specific in our
headings, therefore a separate header is required for each name to reach
the proper people.

Therefore I respectfully request that each name below be listed in its
own header in a separate message, which I will be pleased to send again,
perhaps only with a short message "Contact me if this name is of
interest." Is this a better way to do it?

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
Tel Aviv
dardasht@barak-online.net

New names discovered: SAKIN, MENDELSON, PIVOVAR, BERLIN, ZOLOTAROV,
DREKSLER, KAGAN, SINOVSKY, PINSKY, MOTKIN, RUBINOV, BELOSTOCK, SOSKIN,
OSINOVSKY, DOLKARG/T, PLOTKIN/PLOSKIN, BROIDA, ABERSON,
BRYKHBINDER/BRUKHBINDER, YOFFE/YAFFE.

MODERATOR NOTE: Since all of the names are at the end of this message,
it is not necessary to repeat this message ad ifinitum.
Belarus SIG #Belarus SAKIN,MENDELSON,PIVOVAR,BERLIN,ZOLOTAROV,DREKSLER,KAGAN,SINOVSKY, #belarus

Schelly Dardashti <dardasht@...>
 

Respectfully, we have always been told that each name should be in its
own header. This will enable those reading the headers to ascertain
whether that message is of interest or not. Only SAKIN and PIVOVAR have
been sent in the header. That means that those NOT interested in Sakin
or Pivovar, but possibly in the others, will NEVER read the list of new
names discovered. Only those interested in Sakin or Pivovar will see the
entire list of names. We are continually told to be specific in our
headings, therefore a separate header is required for each name to reach
the proper people.

Therefore I respectfully request that each name below be listed in its
own header in a separate message, which I will be pleased to send again,
perhaps only with a short message "Contact me if this name is of
interest." Is this a better way to do it?

Schelly Talalay Dardashti
Tel Aviv
dardasht@barak-online.net

New names discovered: SAKIN, MENDELSON, PIVOVAR, BERLIN, ZOLOTAROV,
DREKSLER, KAGAN, SINOVSKY, PINSKY, MOTKIN, RUBINOV, BELOSTOCK, SOSKIN,
OSINOVSKY, DOLKARG/T, PLOTKIN/PLOSKIN, BROIDA, ABERSON,
BRYKHBINDER/BRUKHBINDER, YOFFE/YAFFE.

MODERATOR NOTE: Since all of the names are at the end of this message,
it is not necessary to repeat this message ad ifinitum.
Surname TSEITLIN, with LIVSHITS & SHAPIRO #belarus

Michelle Frager <lulu_brooks@...>
 

DEAR LIST:

Are any of these individuals, or the linkage of the surnames, known
to any researchers?

These names related to my family show up in one of JG's databases -
Marriages in Minsk - but I don't know any of them (yet):
= Braine bat Girsh TSEITLIN, of Glussk.
= She is marrying Khaim ben Lezer LIVSHITS, also of Glussk.
= Witness for the bride is surname SHAPIRO.

Her given name, and the groom's and witness's surnames all show up in
our family oral traditions, so I am assuming this entry deserves
closer study. (The groom's witness is one MINKOV, unknown to me.)

Can anyone shed the beginnings of light?

Thanks,
Michelle Frager/NYC

Belarus: WOLFSON, FRAKT, LIFSHITZ, SHAPIRO, DINABURSKY
Belarus SIG #Belarus Surname TSEITLIN, with LIVSHITS & SHAPIRO #belarus

Michelle Frager <lulu_brooks@...>
 

DEAR LIST:

Are any of these individuals, or the linkage of the surnames, known
to any researchers?

These names related to my family show up in one of JG's databases -
Marriages in Minsk - but I don't know any of them (yet):
= Braine bat Girsh TSEITLIN, of Glussk.
= She is marrying Khaim ben Lezer LIVSHITS, also of Glussk.
= Witness for the bride is surname SHAPIRO.

Her given name, and the groom's and witness's surnames all show up in
our family oral traditions, so I am assuming this entry deserves
closer study. (The groom's witness is one MINKOV, unknown to me.)

Can anyone shed the beginnings of light?

Thanks,
Michelle Frager/NYC

Belarus: WOLFSON, FRAKT, LIFSHITZ, SHAPIRO, DINABURSKY
Statute of GDL 1588 #belarus

Dmitriy Levit <levitlit@...>
 

I translated and put on my web page: http://litvaki.cjb.net an article >from
the "Statute of Great Dukedom of Lithuania 1588". "About the rights and
responsibilities of the Jews."
Also there: a photocopy of an original text and an adapted text(original
text written with modern letters.
Dmitriy (Chaim) Levit
Belarus SIG #Belarus Statute of GDL 1588 #belarus

Dmitriy Levit <levitlit@...>
 

I translated and put on my web page: http://litvaki.cjb.net an article >from
the "Statute of Great Dukedom of Lithuania 1588". "About the rights and
responsibilities of the Jews."
Also there: a photocopy of an original text and an adapted text(original
text written with modern letters.
Dmitriy (Chaim) Levit
Re: Czaple, near Lviv? #general

Mark Halpern <willie46@...>
 

Yaacov:

Yes, there was a place called Czaple near Lemberg (Lviv) during Austrian
rule. The town today is called Chapli and located at coordinates 4931
2302, about 75 KM SW of Lviv.

During the Austrian period and up through WWII, vital events for Czaple
were registered in the nearby town of Sambor. Sambor is one of the 86
Administrative towns in east Galicia whose vital records are part of the
Jewish Records Indexing - Poland AGAD Archives project. Sambor records
have already been indexed and can be searched online at
http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/jriplweb.htm. The Sambor records
indexed are:

Births: 1862-1883, 1885-1892, 1895-1899
Marriages: 1877-1897
Deaths: 1868-1883, 1887-1898

Mark Halpern
AGAD Archives Coordinator
JRI-Poland

----- Original Message -----
Dear Genners,
Is there any place called *Czaple* near Lviv?
I was told by two different sources, in relation to a centain
person I'm researching:

- Was born in a place called Czaple, in the Galitzia area, Poland.
- Was born in a town close to Lviv, Ukraine.
The closest Czaple I found is not even close to Ukraine.
Can someone shed some light on this puzzle?

Thanks,
Yaacov Slizak
Ennis, Co.Clare, Ireland
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Czaple, near Lviv? #general

Mark Halpern <willie46@...>
 

Yaacov:

Yes, there was a place called Czaple near Lemberg (Lviv) during Austrian
rule. The town today is called Chapli and located at coordinates 4931
2302, about 75 KM SW of Lviv.

During the Austrian period and up through WWII, vital events for Czaple
were registered in the nearby town of Sambor. Sambor is one of the 86
Administrative towns in east Galicia whose vital records are part of the
Jewish Records Indexing - Poland AGAD Archives project. Sambor records
have already been indexed and can be searched online at
http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/jriplweb.htm. The Sambor records
indexed are:

Births: 1862-1883, 1885-1892, 1895-1899
Marriages: 1877-1897
Deaths: 1868-1883, 1887-1898

Mark Halpern
AGAD Archives Coordinator
JRI-Poland

----- Original Message -----
Dear Genners,
Is there any place called *Czaple* near Lviv?
I was told by two different sources, in relation to a centain
person I'm researching:

- Was born in a place called Czaple, in the Galitzia area, Poland.
- Was born in a town close to Lviv, Ukraine.
The closest Czaple I found is not even close to Ukraine.
Can someone shed some light on this puzzle?

Thanks,
Yaacov Slizak
Ennis, Co.Clare, Ireland
FW: Transylvanian Jewish Records 1900-1940 #romania

Arik Solomon <Arik@...>
 

Dear SIGers,

I'm forwarding the reply I got >from the distinguished Prof. Gyemant of
the Cluj-Napoca University.
The question was regarding available vital records in Transylvania >from
1900-1940.

Enjoy,

Arik Solomon
Petah Tikva
Israel
ariksolo@zahav.net.il

Researching:
SOLOMON (SALAMON,SALOMON), >from TURT (TURCZ)
NEUFELD, >from VAMA (VAMFALU)
GRUN, >from SATU MARE (SZATMAR)
FEIG, >from RUSCOVA (VISOOROSZI)

-----Original Message-----
From: Gyemant Laszlo [mailto:gyemant@zortec.ro]
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 6:01 PM
To: Arik Solomon
Subject: Re: Transylvanian Jewish Records 1900-1940

Dear Mr. Solomon,
I confirm the receipt of your message. For the mentioned places are
available the following resources:
- for the period before 1895 there are rabinical registers of births,
deaths and marriages preserved in the State Archives >from Satu Mare.
They
begin around 1850 and are preserved better for Satu Mare, and with large
gaps for the villages because in the Holocaust period many of them were
destroyed.
- beginning with 1895 there are state registers which include the
inhabitants of all religious denomination. These registers of births,
deaths and marriages are preserved in the Registry Offices of the
respective towns. If you would like to research in the State Archives
you need the written approval of the General Direction of the National
Archives >from Bucharest. For the Registry Offices of the towns
it is possible to obtain so-called extracts if you visit the
respective places [i.e. in person - MOD]. There are preserved
too Jewish cemeteries especially in Satu Mare.

Hoping that these informations will be helpful, I remain with the best
wishes

Ladislau Gyemant
Romania SIG #Romania FW: Transylvanian Jewish Records 1900-1940 #romania

Arik Solomon <Arik@...>
 

Dear SIGers,

I'm forwarding the reply I got >from the distinguished Prof. Gyemant of
the Cluj-Napoca University.
The question was regarding available vital records in Transylvania >from
1900-1940.

Enjoy,

Arik Solomon
Petah Tikva
Israel
ariksolo@zahav.net.il

Researching:
SOLOMON (SALAMON,SALOMON), >from TURT (TURCZ)
NEUFELD, >from VAMA (VAMFALU)
GRUN, >from SATU MARE (SZATMAR)
FEIG, >from RUSCOVA (VISOOROSZI)

-----Original Message-----
From: Gyemant Laszlo [mailto:gyemant@zortec.ro]
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 6:01 PM
To: Arik Solomon
Subject: Re: Transylvanian Jewish Records 1900-1940

Dear Mr. Solomon,
I confirm the receipt of your message. For the mentioned places are
available the following resources:
- for the period before 1895 there are rabinical registers of births,
deaths and marriages preserved in the State Archives >from Satu Mare.
They
begin around 1850 and are preserved better for Satu Mare, and with large
gaps for the villages because in the Holocaust period many of them were
destroyed.
- beginning with 1895 there are state registers which include the
inhabitants of all religious denomination. These registers of births,
deaths and marriages are preserved in the Registry Offices of the
respective towns. If you would like to research in the State Archives
you need the written approval of the General Direction of the National
Archives >from Bucharest. For the Registry Offices of the towns
it is possible to obtain so-called extracts if you visit the
respective places [i.e. in person - MOD]. There are preserved
too Jewish cemeteries especially in Satu Mare.

Hoping that these informations will be helpful, I remain with the best
wishes

Ladislau Gyemant
468041 - 468060 of 657897