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KATZ in Zvil [Novograd-Vollynsk] #ukraine

Robert W. Kraft <bobbyalice@...>
 

I am trying to find information concerning the maiden name of the
MOTHER of two sisters >from Zvil, [Novograd-Volynsk]. Her married name was
KATZ

Ths sisters names are:
1. Fanny Katz, b. (c) 1879, [married Wolfe Landa in Dnepropvesk Ukraine c.
1900 and they immigrated to Canada in 1904. Wolfe, [William], died in 1961
and Fanny at a date afterward, [unknown to me]. They are both buried in the
Jewish Cemetery in Saskatoon Canada which is administered by the Agudas
Israel Synagogue .The Synagogue has not answered my two letters and as yet
I haven't been able to find a death certificate for Fanny, [Fagie], Katz
Landa.

2. Dora Katz, b.1881, [married Nathan Posner in Winnipeg Canada]. I have
spoken with her daughter, [age 90] and two granddaughters but no one has the
answer. However, the 90 year old daughter knew her mother was born in Zvil.

Any information that would be of help will be most appreciated

I realize this is a stab in the dark but I have run out of ideas on
how to find this information which would connect families I am researching.)

Bob Kraft
bobbyalice@hotmail.com
Researching:
Temes, Thomas, Laschinofsky, Hockman, Firestein, Lesberg, Landa, Jampolsky,
Lipman, Katz and Posner in Ukraine;
Kraft, Kravchik, and Volanski in Belarus;
Segalsky, Rom, Rome, Wener, and Viner in Lithuania


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine KATZ in Zvil [Novograd-Vollynsk] #ukraine

Robert W. Kraft <bobbyalice@...>
 

I am trying to find information concerning the maiden name of the
MOTHER of two sisters >from Zvil, [Novograd-Volynsk]. Her married name was
KATZ

Ths sisters names are:
1. Fanny Katz, b. (c) 1879, [married Wolfe Landa in Dnepropvesk Ukraine c.
1900 and they immigrated to Canada in 1904. Wolfe, [William], died in 1961
and Fanny at a date afterward, [unknown to me]. They are both buried in the
Jewish Cemetery in Saskatoon Canada which is administered by the Agudas
Israel Synagogue .The Synagogue has not answered my two letters and as yet
I haven't been able to find a death certificate for Fanny, [Fagie], Katz
Landa.

2. Dora Katz, b.1881, [married Nathan Posner in Winnipeg Canada]. I have
spoken with her daughter, [age 90] and two granddaughters but no one has the
answer. However, the 90 year old daughter knew her mother was born in Zvil.

Any information that would be of help will be most appreciated

I realize this is a stab in the dark but I have run out of ideas on
how to find this information which would connect families I am researching.)

Bob Kraft
bobbyalice@hotmail.com
Researching:
Temes, Thomas, Laschinofsky, Hockman, Firestein, Lesberg, Landa, Jampolsky,
Lipman, Katz and Posner in Ukraine;
Kraft, Kravchik, and Volanski in Belarus;
Segalsky, Rom, Rome, Wener, and Viner in Lithuania


Re: Missing COHN family-Wreschen, Strzalkowo-Berlin?-Britain? #germany

Barb & Howard
 

Dear Jim,
Baron de HIRSH was responsible for many folks quietly migrating in the late
1800's to a colony he established in the vicinity of Moisesville, Argentina.

Howard Steinmetz
Boulder, Co.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Bennett [mailto:bennett@coral.co.il]
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 6:58 AM
To: JewishGen Discussion Group
Subject: Missing COHN family-Wreschen, Strzalkowo-Berlin?-Britain?


An entire family related to me has "gone missing" sometime about a century
ago. Marcus Moses COHN, born about 1835 in either Wreschen or Strzalkowo in Posen
Province, or maybe across the border in western Poland married Rosalie nee
KLECZEWSKI >from Pyzdry. They had four children born between 1871 and 1883,
all in Strzalkowo: Isaac,Leib, Jakob, and Sarah.

None of the perished in the Holocaust--Yad Vashem, Gedenkbuch, etc None
immigrated via Ellis Island >from 1893 onward. They don't show in U.S.censuses.
They likely emigrated, but to where? to England, South Africa, ??

Does anyone know this family?

Jim Bennett
Haifa


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Missing COHN family-Wreschen, Strzalkowo-Berlin?-Britain? #general

Barb & Howard
 

Dear Jim,
Baron de HIRSH was responsible for many folks quietly migrating in the late
1800's to a colony he established in the vicinity of Moisesville, Argentina.

Howard Steinmetz
Boulder, Co.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Bennett [mailto:bennett@coral.co.il]
Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 6:58 AM
To: JewishGen Discussion Group
Subject: Missing COHN family-Wreschen, Strzalkowo-Berlin?-Britain?


An entire family related to me has "gone missing" sometime about a century
ago. Marcus Moses COHN, born about 1835 in either Wreschen or Strzalkowo in Posen
Province, or maybe across the border in western Poland married Rosalie nee
KLECZEWSKI >from Pyzdry. They had four children born between 1871 and 1883,
all in Strzalkowo: Isaac,Leib, Jakob, and Sarah.

None of the perished in the Holocaust--Yad Vashem, Gedenkbuch, etc None
immigrated via Ellis Island >from 1893 onward. They don't show in U.S.censuses.
They likely emigrated, but to where? to England, South Africa, ??

Does anyone know this family?

Jim Bennett
Haifa


Re: Unusual Hebrew Name: Zadok #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 3/11/2007 10:15:15 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
hekenvin@bellsouth.net writes:

<< A gavestone of a family member shows his Hebrew name to be one that I never
have seen before. The Hebrew letters are tsadeh, daled, vuv, koph. >>

==I think we had a similar enquiry here a few weeks ago. The name is Zadok/Tzadok.
It was the name of a prominent Kohanic (priestly) line that officiated >from King
David (or King Saul) to the destruction of the First Temple, and again >from the
rebuilding of the Second Temple to its destruction by the Romans.

==The line gave its name to the group known as Sadducees, who were opposed
by the Pharisees. One Zadok, who survived the Second Destruction, was unique in
being both a an active kohen in the Temple service and a Tanna, a rabbi who
participated in the formulation of the Mishna and participated in the
71-member Sanhedrin, which combined the function of supreme legislature and supreme
court. This Tzadok survived the destruction of Jerusalem and was active in
setting up the Torah Academy in Yavneh.

==Zadok as a first name was relatively rare among Ashkenasim, much more
common among Sefardim.

Michael Bernet
_www.mem-Ber.net_ (http://www.mem-Ber.net)

Moderator note: For more information on this thread please check the JewishGen
Discussion Group archives at http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/archive.htm
It's a great repository of all the topics that have been discussed - there are
similar archives available for SIG discussions


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Unusual Hebrew Name: Zadok #general

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 3/11/2007 10:15:15 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
hekenvin@bellsouth.net writes:

<< A gavestone of a family member shows his Hebrew name to be one that I never
have seen before. The Hebrew letters are tsadeh, daled, vuv, koph. >>

==I think we had a similar enquiry here a few weeks ago. The name is Zadok/Tzadok.
It was the name of a prominent Kohanic (priestly) line that officiated >from King
David (or King Saul) to the destruction of the First Temple, and again >from the
rebuilding of the Second Temple to its destruction by the Romans.

==The line gave its name to the group known as Sadducees, who were opposed
by the Pharisees. One Zadok, who survived the Second Destruction, was unique in
being both a an active kohen in the Temple service and a Tanna, a rabbi who
participated in the formulation of the Mishna and participated in the
71-member Sanhedrin, which combined the function of supreme legislature and supreme
court. This Tzadok survived the destruction of Jerusalem and was active in
setting up the Torah Academy in Yavneh.

==Zadok as a first name was relatively rare among Ashkenasim, much more
common among Sefardim.

Michael Bernet
_www.mem-Ber.net_ (http://www.mem-Ber.net)

Moderator note: For more information on this thread please check the JewishGen
Discussion Group archives at http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/archive.htm
It's a great repository of all the topics that have been discussed - there are
similar archives available for SIG discussions


Re Spoiled and Spoiled #general

Joel Weintraub
 

I just want to add another slant to the posting on using the Internet to do
genealogy.

I've been volunteering at NARA Laguna Niguel since 2001. When I first started to
volunteer, we would have 75 to 100 people visiting the archives a day, and when it
was open regularly on some nights and Saturdays each month, the place was a zoo.
Microfilm readers were assigned with half hour time limits. I think at that time
we had about 20 to 25 volunteers helping each week.

The situation today is that we are lucky to have 6 genealogy researchers come in on
a given day. In fact there have been 2 occasions recently when no one but the
volunteer(s) have shown up. We lost many of our volunteers to inactivity so today
we probably have only about 5 or less regulars. That lose of volunteer
genealogists is probably more important then the loss of researchers coming in as
far as the genealogy community should be concerned. (One plus for me is that I
always have things to do with the films, so I'm getting a lot of work done on
geographical finder aids as the call for my help has been reduced.)

One outcome of this problem is that NARA now has new strategic goals. Genealogists
probably used to be their number one "money maker" in terms of serving the public.
As far as my branch is concerned, that is no longer the case. Genealogy societies
can protest the cutback in hours at NARA and the increase in fees, but when you are
running an organization that depends on showing how many people you serve, I think
NARA has little choice. NARA gets, as far as I know, no kickbacks >from the
subscription companies for all the digitized NARA microfilm that is now available
online.

What are the new NARA goals? Also, as an aside, what should you expect if you come
into the NARA Laguna Niguel branch the next few months. Education of the general
public is now the major goal. The last year or two, school teachers have been
training to use the original records so that their classes can have projects
involving actual material. If school groups start to use such records, they need
space in a secure area. At my branch they have torn up the genealogy room the last
two weeks. Instead of 12 or more rows of microfilm readers they now have only 3
rows in the genealogy room. The soundex films for the census and other low use film
series have been moved into the back rooms to save space. An educational classroom
is being built in the space vacated by the microfilm cabinets. The remaining film
cabinets and tables and chairs are in the process of being moved towards the back
of the room. During the construction of this room the next few months, we may lose
our Internet connection in the genealogy room and thus access to subscriptions to
H.....Q...... and A......y.

That's the present and future at NARA. So one can say that the Internet has
spoiled us, but there is another area that has been "spoiled" as well.... and the
genealogy public should be aware of this tradeoff.

Joel Weintraub


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re Spoiled and Spoiled #general

Joel Weintraub
 

I just want to add another slant to the posting on using the Internet to do
genealogy.

I've been volunteering at NARA Laguna Niguel since 2001. When I first started to
volunteer, we would have 75 to 100 people visiting the archives a day, and when it
was open regularly on some nights and Saturdays each month, the place was a zoo.
Microfilm readers were assigned with half hour time limits. I think at that time
we had about 20 to 25 volunteers helping each week.

The situation today is that we are lucky to have 6 genealogy researchers come in on
a given day. In fact there have been 2 occasions recently when no one but the
volunteer(s) have shown up. We lost many of our volunteers to inactivity so today
we probably have only about 5 or less regulars. That lose of volunteer
genealogists is probably more important then the loss of researchers coming in as
far as the genealogy community should be concerned. (One plus for me is that I
always have things to do with the films, so I'm getting a lot of work done on
geographical finder aids as the call for my help has been reduced.)

One outcome of this problem is that NARA now has new strategic goals. Genealogists
probably used to be their number one "money maker" in terms of serving the public.
As far as my branch is concerned, that is no longer the case. Genealogy societies
can protest the cutback in hours at NARA and the increase in fees, but when you are
running an organization that depends on showing how many people you serve, I think
NARA has little choice. NARA gets, as far as I know, no kickbacks >from the
subscription companies for all the digitized NARA microfilm that is now available
online.

What are the new NARA goals? Also, as an aside, what should you expect if you come
into the NARA Laguna Niguel branch the next few months. Education of the general
public is now the major goal. The last year or two, school teachers have been
training to use the original records so that their classes can have projects
involving actual material. If school groups start to use such records, they need
space in a secure area. At my branch they have torn up the genealogy room the last
two weeks. Instead of 12 or more rows of microfilm readers they now have only 3
rows in the genealogy room. The soundex films for the census and other low use film
series have been moved into the back rooms to save space. An educational classroom
is being built in the space vacated by the microfilm cabinets. The remaining film
cabinets and tables and chairs are in the process of being moved towards the back
of the room. During the construction of this room the next few months, we may lose
our Internet connection in the genealogy room and thus access to subscriptions to
H.....Q...... and A......y.

That's the present and future at NARA. So one can say that the Internet has
spoiled us, but there is another area that has been "spoiled" as well.... and the
genealogy public should be aware of this tradeoff.

Joel Weintraub


Munkacs/Mukacheve town #ukraine

steve@...
 

Greetings,

I am working on a survivor's story. His siblings were born in a town about
20-25 km >from Munkacs/Mukacheve. He calls it Patakos(h). Half way between
there and Munkacs/Mukacheve is a town called Szeredne.
Is anyone familiar with a town called Patakosh? Is it now called by a
different name? What country is it in today? Have you the coordinates for
the town?
Thanks for your help.


Regards,
Steve Lasky
New York


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Munkacs/Mukacheve town #ukraine

steve@...
 

Greetings,

I am working on a survivor's story. His siblings were born in a town about
20-25 km >from Munkacs/Mukacheve. He calls it Patakos(h). Half way between
there and Munkacs/Mukacheve is a town called Szeredne.
Is anyone familiar with a town called Patakosh? Is it now called by a
different name? What country is it in today? Have you the coordinates for
the town?
Thanks for your help.


Regards,
Steve Lasky
New York


FABRIKANT #galicia

Mike Sturm <mikesturm@...>
 

Hello All:

Wondering if anyone is researching the FABRIKANT family (noted
diamond merchants). I was told that Max FABRIKANT's wife Gertrude
(1870-1939) used to refer to my HIRSCHHORN great grandparents as
uncle and aunt. I obtained her death certificate which showed her
to be the daughter of Joseph HIRSCHHORN and Pearl BLASBLAG (sic).

If her father Joseph is indeed a brother of my GGF, Moses HIRSCHHORN,
his name would be Yosef ben Yisroel Yechezkiel, probably of Zolynia
Galicia.

I'd appreciate any information about the extended family of Gertrude
HIRSCHHORN FABRIKANT. Warmest regards >from NYC.

--
Mike Sturm
Staten Island, NY
http://www.mikesturm.com

Researching:
STURM, LANGBANK, CHARYTAN Jaroslaw
HAUSER, PERLMUTTER, BRAND
Tarnobrzeg, Sobow
HIRSCHHORN, Zolynia
ROSENBLUTH Rozwadow
HOROWITZ, Oswiecim, Krakow


Jacob DRACH in Vienna #galicia

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Bruce Drake wrote:

<<...I haven't made much progress on my paternal grandfather, Samuel
DRACH who was born in 1884 in Wojnilow (now Voynilov) and came to New
York in 1904. I know only that his father was named Jacob and he listed
his mother as Helen (nee Shippar, although the handwriting wasn't
completely clear). I see listings for many DRACH in Wojnilow and its
environs in the census on JewishGen, but none that remotely correspond
to his parents' names. The only other thing I know, through a surviving
relative, was that his first mother died early and he left home at 13
because he didn't care for his stepmother. I don't know if the Helen
Shippar was his natural mother or stepmother.>>

I checked the Zentralfriedhof Vienna at
<http://friedhof.ikg-wien.at/search.asp?lang=en> and found two DRACH
who could fit as Bruce's gt-grandfather and his second wife. Katharina
would have been 23 when she married Jakob after Helene's death. [Samuel
was 13!]

As there are quite a few DRACH in Vienna, this may be pure coincidence
but it is worth checking out. Jacob would have been only 22 when Samuel
was born. Jacob may have been a refugee >from Galicia in WW1. This is a
hypothesis waiting to be demolished, but one must not leave any stones
unturned!

Zentralfriedhof Vienna Gate IV. Group 11 Row 13 grave 24
DRACH Jakob age 61 died 13.04.1923 buried 15.04.1923
DRACH Katharina age 54 died 28.04.1928 buried 30.04.1928

Celia Male [U.K.]

PS: If I have time, I will investigate on my forthcoming trip to Vienna.


JGS Sacramento Meeting March 18, 2007 Steve Morse #general

Bob Wascou <robertw252@...>
 

Jewish Genealogical Society of Sacramento meeting

When: Sunday, March 18, 2007 at 10 a.m.

Where: Albert Einstein Residence Center
1935 Wright St., Sacramento, CA

Topic: The Jewish Calendar Demystified

Speaker: Steve Morse

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Sacramento is honored once again to have
genealogist extraordinaire Steve Morse speak to us. Steve hosts the "must-see"
Web site for genealogists of all levels -- www.stevemorse.org -- and has pioneered
the "one-step" search mechanism for many sites and databases.

Steve's talk in March will focus on the Jewish calendar, important to genealogists
because Jewish vital records use the Jewish dates. This includes not only birth,
marriage and death certificates, but tombstone engravings as well.

Steve's talk will kick off Jewish Genealogy Month,March 20- April 18 (Nisan 5767).

Bob Wascou


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia FABRIKANT #galicia

Mike Sturm <mikesturm@...>
 

Hello All:

Wondering if anyone is researching the FABRIKANT family (noted
diamond merchants). I was told that Max FABRIKANT's wife Gertrude
(1870-1939) used to refer to my HIRSCHHORN great grandparents as
uncle and aunt. I obtained her death certificate which showed her
to be the daughter of Joseph HIRSCHHORN and Pearl BLASBLAG (sic).

If her father Joseph is indeed a brother of my GGF, Moses HIRSCHHORN,
his name would be Yosef ben Yisroel Yechezkiel, probably of Zolynia
Galicia.

I'd appreciate any information about the extended family of Gertrude
HIRSCHHORN FABRIKANT. Warmest regards >from NYC.

--
Mike Sturm
Staten Island, NY
http://www.mikesturm.com

Researching:
STURM, LANGBANK, CHARYTAN Jaroslaw
HAUSER, PERLMUTTER, BRAND
Tarnobrzeg, Sobow
HIRSCHHORN, Zolynia
ROSENBLUTH Rozwadow
HOROWITZ, Oswiecim, Krakow


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Jacob DRACH in Vienna #galicia

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Bruce Drake wrote:

<<...I haven't made much progress on my paternal grandfather, Samuel
DRACH who was born in 1884 in Wojnilow (now Voynilov) and came to New
York in 1904. I know only that his father was named Jacob and he listed
his mother as Helen (nee Shippar, although the handwriting wasn't
completely clear). I see listings for many DRACH in Wojnilow and its
environs in the census on JewishGen, but none that remotely correspond
to his parents' names. The only other thing I know, through a surviving
relative, was that his first mother died early and he left home at 13
because he didn't care for his stepmother. I don't know if the Helen
Shippar was his natural mother or stepmother.>>

I checked the Zentralfriedhof Vienna at
<http://friedhof.ikg-wien.at/search.asp?lang=en> and found two DRACH
who could fit as Bruce's gt-grandfather and his second wife. Katharina
would have been 23 when she married Jakob after Helene's death. [Samuel
was 13!]

As there are quite a few DRACH in Vienna, this may be pure coincidence
but it is worth checking out. Jacob would have been only 22 when Samuel
was born. Jacob may have been a refugee >from Galicia in WW1. This is a
hypothesis waiting to be demolished, but one must not leave any stones
unturned!

Zentralfriedhof Vienna Gate IV. Group 11 Row 13 grave 24
DRACH Jakob age 61 died 13.04.1923 buried 15.04.1923
DRACH Katharina age 54 died 28.04.1928 buried 30.04.1928

Celia Male [U.K.]

PS: If I have time, I will investigate on my forthcoming trip to Vienna.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGS Sacramento Meeting March 18, 2007 Steve Morse #general

Bob Wascou <robertw252@...>
 

Jewish Genealogical Society of Sacramento meeting

When: Sunday, March 18, 2007 at 10 a.m.

Where: Albert Einstein Residence Center
1935 Wright St., Sacramento, CA

Topic: The Jewish Calendar Demystified

Speaker: Steve Morse

The Jewish Genealogical Society of Sacramento is honored once again to have
genealogist extraordinaire Steve Morse speak to us. Steve hosts the "must-see"
Web site for genealogists of all levels -- www.stevemorse.org -- and has pioneered
the "one-step" search mechanism for many sites and databases.

Steve's talk in March will focus on the Jewish calendar, important to genealogists
because Jewish vital records use the Jewish dates. This includes not only birth,
marriage and death certificates, but tombstone engravings as well.

Steve's talk will kick off Jewish Genealogy Month,March 20- April 18 (Nisan 5767).

Bob Wascou


SAMUEL family, Southwark, London, UK #unitedkingdom

Zoe McQuillin <zoemcquillin@...>
 

I am trying to trace the Samuel family, who lived in the Southwark area in
London (Newington, Walworth, Borough).

I have traced back to Isaac Samuel, born 1796/7, who married Deborah. His
son Joseph, was born in 1835-36, and married Sarah Fox in 1857.

I am now stuck! I do not know if they attended a synagogue. Any searches
on the Jewishgen databases have drawn a blank. I think they were quite
poor - Isaac and Joseph were both General Dealers - so I do not know if they
would have been buried in a Jewish cemetery. I don't know where to go from
here.

If anyone can provide any advice, or information, I would be very very
grateful.

Many thanks

Zoe McQuillin, London, United Kingdom


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom SAMUEL family, Southwark, London, UK #unitedkingdom

Zoe McQuillin <zoemcquillin@...>
 

I am trying to trace the Samuel family, who lived in the Southwark area in
London (Newington, Walworth, Borough).

I have traced back to Isaac Samuel, born 1796/7, who married Deborah. His
son Joseph, was born in 1835-36, and married Sarah Fox in 1857.

I am now stuck! I do not know if they attended a synagogue. Any searches
on the Jewishgen databases have drawn a blank. I think they were quite
poor - Isaac and Joseph were both General Dealers - so I do not know if they
would have been buried in a Jewish cemetery. I don't know where to go from
here.

If anyone can provide any advice, or information, I would be very very
grateful.

Many thanks

Zoe McQuillin, London, United Kingdom


Unusual Hebrew Name #general

hekenvin@...
 

A gavestone of a family member shows his Hebrew name to be one that I never have
seen before, so I would be grateful if someone can tell me what it is.

The Hebrew letters are tsadeh, daled, vuv, koph. If it is of any consequence, the
man's name in English was Charles.

Your input would be valued.

Helene Kenvin

USA
Researching: WIESENTHAL (Skala); SCHWARTZ, WEISS, BALAJTI (Miskolc), JACOBS,
ROTHOLZ (Hamburg, 19th century NY, Richmond VA, Kansas City KS), EINBINDER, WAXMAN,
COHEN (Kalarash), COHEN (GNESEN, 19th century NYC and Richmond VA), WEISSMAN
(Trembovla).


Batya Untersschatz has a new e-mail address #general

Gary Mokotoff: <mokotoff@...>
 

For those of you that have dealings with Batya Unterschatz, she has informed
me that she has a new e-mail address: BATYAL2@012.NET.IL

Gary Mokotoff