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Lodz #general

Gayle Schlissel Riley <Key2pst@...>
 

Does anyone know if Lodz was ever owned by a magnate landowner?
response privately?
PS if so who.
Gayle Riley >from San Gabriel, Ca


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Lodz #general

Gayle Schlissel Riley <Key2pst@...>
 

Does anyone know if Lodz was ever owned by a magnate landowner?
response privately?
PS if so who.
Gayle Riley >from San Gabriel, Ca


Need Old Yiddish Script Translation #general

Thomas Lerman <Thomas_Lerman@...>
 

I have three old photos that each have a small amount of old handwritten
Yiddish script. They are >from the late 1800s to early 1900s and originate
from Berdichev area of Russia (now Ukraine). I am looking for two or three
people that are able to independently translate them for me.

Thank you for your time and help,
Thomas

MODERATOR NOTE: Offers to translate should be posted privately.
Please also note that the Viewmate project was established
just for this purpose; to facilitate translation of short
passages, identify photographs etc.
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Need Old Yiddish Script Translation #general

Thomas Lerman <Thomas_Lerman@...>
 

I have three old photos that each have a small amount of old handwritten
Yiddish script. They are >from the late 1800s to early 1900s and originate
from Berdichev area of Russia (now Ukraine). I am looking for two or three
people that are able to independently translate them for me.

Thank you for your time and help,
Thomas

MODERATOR NOTE: Offers to translate should be posted privately.
Please also note that the Viewmate project was established
just for this purpose; to facilitate translation of short
passages, identify photographs etc.
http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/


Bialystok at the Jerusalem Conference #poland

Bialystoker
 

The 2004 IAJGS Conference is only three weeks away.

For attendees with roots in the Bialystok area, the meeting of
BIALYGen, the Bialystok Region Jewish Genealogy Group, will take
place on Thursday morning July 8 >from 8:00 - 8:45 AM. This
meeting will be an informal way to meet other Bialystok area
researchers and discuss the future plans for the BIALYGen group.

For more information about BIALYGen, please see our JewishGen
Infofile at http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/BialystokRRG.htm.

BIALYGen is also planning a visit to Kiriat Bialystok (A
Neighborhood of Yehud, Israel) and the Hall of Bialystok on
Friday morning July 9. Kiryat Bialystok was founded in 1949 by
former residents of Bialystok. Members of the Israeli Bialystok
Landsmanschaft will welcome our group and talk to us about
Bialystok and the founding of their community. For more
information, see the Bialystok Memorial website at
http://www.zchor.org/bialystok/bialystok.htm and click on "Kiriat
Bialystok" in the menu at the top.

If you are interested in this July 9 visit to Kiriat Bialystok,
please contact me privately. We will arrange transportation from
the Conference Hotel and we will need to know the number of
people to accommodate. There will a nominal charge for
transportation.

Other programs of interest to Bialystokers at the Conference are:

Sunday Luncheon 12:30 -- 13:30: JRI-Poland Luncheon
Tuesday Afternoon 13:40 -- 18:05: Five presentations directed to
Polish Jewish research including updates >from JRI-Poland.
Wednesday Morning 09:50 -- 10:35: Suwalk - Lomza Bird of a
Feather Meeting

See you in Jerusalem.

Mark Halpern
BIALYGen Coordinator
bialystoker@comcast.net


JRI Poland #Poland Bialystok at the Jerusalem Conference #poland

Bialystoker
 

The 2004 IAJGS Conference is only three weeks away.

For attendees with roots in the Bialystok area, the meeting of
BIALYGen, the Bialystok Region Jewish Genealogy Group, will take
place on Thursday morning July 8 >from 8:00 - 8:45 AM. This
meeting will be an informal way to meet other Bialystok area
researchers and discuss the future plans for the BIALYGen group.

For more information about BIALYGen, please see our JewishGen
Infofile at http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/BialystokRRG.htm.

BIALYGen is also planning a visit to Kiriat Bialystok (A
Neighborhood of Yehud, Israel) and the Hall of Bialystok on
Friday morning July 9. Kiryat Bialystok was founded in 1949 by
former residents of Bialystok. Members of the Israeli Bialystok
Landsmanschaft will welcome our group and talk to us about
Bialystok and the founding of their community. For more
information, see the Bialystok Memorial website at
http://www.zchor.org/bialystok/bialystok.htm and click on "Kiriat
Bialystok" in the menu at the top.

If you are interested in this July 9 visit to Kiriat Bialystok,
please contact me privately. We will arrange transportation from
the Conference Hotel and we will need to know the number of
people to accommodate. There will a nominal charge for
transportation.

Other programs of interest to Bialystokers at the Conference are:

Sunday Luncheon 12:30 -- 13:30: JRI-Poland Luncheon
Tuesday Afternoon 13:40 -- 18:05: Five presentations directed to
Polish Jewish research including updates >from JRI-Poland.
Wednesday Morning 09:50 -- 10:35: Suwalk - Lomza Bird of a
Feather Meeting

See you in Jerusalem.

Mark Halpern
BIALYGen Coordinator
bialystoker@comcast.net


EPSTEIN/SADOWSKY #romania

Ivor <morway@...>
 

I have struck a dead-end in researching my family history. Does anyone have
any contacts in Tulcea?
History: My forebears, the EPSTEIN family left Tulcea via Galati in August
1882, aboard the Danubian riverboat, the "Thetis". Their destination was
Palestine as they were amongst the first "Biluim" and helped to found
Zichron Yaacov in the same year.
Prior to leaving Romania, for reasons unclear to me. they changed the family
name SADOWSKY to EPSTEIN. I suspect that the Sadowsky's ("Sadofsci" ?)
first arrived in Tulcea in 1878, >from where I do not know, and for reasons
unknown to me.
Can anyone help?

Kind regards,

Dr Ivor Epstein
(Sydney, Australia)


Romania SIG #Romania EPSTEIN/SADOWSKY #romania

Ivor <morway@...>
 

I have struck a dead-end in researching my family history. Does anyone have
any contacts in Tulcea?
History: My forebears, the EPSTEIN family left Tulcea via Galati in August
1882, aboard the Danubian riverboat, the "Thetis". Their destination was
Palestine as they were amongst the first "Biluim" and helped to found
Zichron Yaacov in the same year.
Prior to leaving Romania, for reasons unclear to me. they changed the family
name SADOWSKY to EPSTEIN. I suspect that the Sadowsky's ("Sadofsci" ?)
first arrived in Tulcea in 1878, >from where I do not know, and for reasons
unknown to me.
Can anyone help?

Kind regards,

Dr Ivor Epstein
(Sydney, Australia)


Re: American Sounding Names #belarus

werle <werle@...>
 

I have found American sounding names on documents for parents of people who
never left the Old Country and never changed their names. For example, one
of my father's aunts, whose mother was Feige Itte, referred to her mother's
name on her Social Security application as "Frances". I've seen people who
changed their surnames who give their parents' names (also in the Old
Country) as the anglicized name as well. My grandparents' wedding
invitation shows "Mr. and Mrs. Gordon" as the parents of the groom, even
though their name was SKUTELSKI!

So, it is possible that the people themselves changed their names IF they
immigrated, but if they didn't, their children may have changed the names
for them on official documents.

Marion Werle
<werle@linkline.com>
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Belarus SIG #Belarus Re: American Sounding Names #belarus

werle <werle@...>
 

I have found American sounding names on documents for parents of people who
never left the Old Country and never changed their names. For example, one
of my father's aunts, whose mother was Feige Itte, referred to her mother's
name on her Social Security application as "Frances". I've seen people who
changed their surnames who give their parents' names (also in the Old
Country) as the anglicized name as well. My grandparents' wedding
invitation shows "Mr. and Mrs. Gordon" as the parents of the groom, even
though their name was SKUTELSKI!

So, it is possible that the people themselves changed their names IF they
immigrated, but if they didn't, their children may have changed the names
for them on official documents.

Marion Werle
<werle@linkline.com>
MODERATOR NOTE: Please sign all messages with your location too!


R' Joshua FRUMOV / FRUMHOFF #rabbinic

Elaine Bush <erbush@...>
 

Seeking any reference to Rabbi Joshua FRUMOV / FRUMHOFF, born about
1850, son of Asher Nachum FRUMOV / FRUMHOFF of Belarus-- married to
Mary SHEININ / SHANIN. >from Minsk or Pinsk. Or possibly Mogilev
area. **Any** reference to this name would be welcome.

Elaine Bush
Pleasant Hill, CA

FRUMOV / FRUMHOFF
SHEININ / SHANIN
REST / RESHT, Plunge Lithuania / Riga Latvia / Chicago
BLUSHINSKY / BUSH, Nemencine and Vilnius, Lithuania / Chicago


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic R' Joshua FRUMOV / FRUMHOFF #rabbinic

Elaine Bush <erbush@...>
 

Seeking any reference to Rabbi Joshua FRUMOV / FRUMHOFF, born about
1850, son of Asher Nachum FRUMOV / FRUMHOFF of Belarus-- married to
Mary SHEININ / SHANIN. >from Minsk or Pinsk. Or possibly Mogilev
area. **Any** reference to this name would be welcome.

Elaine Bush
Pleasant Hill, CA

FRUMOV / FRUMHOFF
SHEININ / SHANIN
REST / RESHT, Plunge Lithuania / Riga Latvia / Chicago
BLUSHINSKY / BUSH, Nemencine and Vilnius, Lithuania / Chicago


Rabbi Wolf Alexander TRAUBE & Rabbi Jacob WEIL #rabbinic

Alan Ehrlich
 

Rabbi Wolf Alexander TRAUBE (also spelled Wolff, respectively TRAUB
and TROIB) was born in Frankfurt am Main abt 1600. The tombstone
inscriptions for several of his children claim Rabbi Jacob WEIL as
their earlier ancestor (born 1380-1390 in Weil-der-Stadt, near
Stuttgart in what today is Wuerttemberg).

I have read Werner Frank's very interesting publication at the RavSIG
Web site about the WEIL rabbinical family; however, it does not
include the lines that I am searching for.

I would greatly appreciate any information or leads to help me fill in
my family tree between Rabbi Wolf Alexander TRAUBE back to Rabbi Jacob
WEIL.

Thank you.

Friendly regards,
Alan (Ehrlich)
Geneva, Switzerland


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Rabbi Wolf Alexander TRAUBE & Rabbi Jacob WEIL #rabbinic

Alan Ehrlich
 

Rabbi Wolf Alexander TRAUBE (also spelled Wolff, respectively TRAUB
and TROIB) was born in Frankfurt am Main abt 1600. The tombstone
inscriptions for several of his children claim Rabbi Jacob WEIL as
their earlier ancestor (born 1380-1390 in Weil-der-Stadt, near
Stuttgart in what today is Wuerttemberg).

I have read Werner Frank's very interesting publication at the RavSIG
Web site about the WEIL rabbinical family; however, it does not
include the lines that I am searching for.

I would greatly appreciate any information or leads to help me fill in
my family tree between Rabbi Wolf Alexander TRAUBE back to Rabbi Jacob
WEIL.

Thank you.

Friendly regards,
Alan (Ehrlich)
Geneva, Switzerland


Re: official errors #unitedkingdom

jeremy frankel
 

There may well be a policy of accepting corrections for errors, but I
don't know how these corrections would made available to the public
at large? Particularly with the 1881 census, which Miriam Margolyes
was reporting on. When one considers how many duplicate microfilms
and fiche have now been made and circulated around the world, I think
it will be very tough if not almost impossible to find out who has
what and get a corrigenda to the various libraries and
institutions. Of course the corrigenda will always be out of date as
people keep finding more and more errors.

One also has to be careful as to what constitutes an error. If a
person didn't know his own date of birth and repeatedly kept giving the
wrong age, if we are none the wiser then what would be the "correct"
age, especially if there is more or less than ten years for the ages
given on consecutive censuses.

One the one hand, it is "to err is human" so hopefully we have become
more knowledgeable about the possibility of such errors and a mark of
a good researcher is to always be skeptical and to at least
double-check all the evidence.

Jeremy G Frankel
ex-London, England
Berkeley, California, USA


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Re: official errors #unitedkingdom

jeremy frankel
 

There may well be a policy of accepting corrections for errors, but I
don't know how these corrections would made available to the public
at large? Particularly with the 1881 census, which Miriam Margolyes
was reporting on. When one considers how many duplicate microfilms
and fiche have now been made and circulated around the world, I think
it will be very tough if not almost impossible to find out who has
what and get a corrigenda to the various libraries and
institutions. Of course the corrigenda will always be out of date as
people keep finding more and more errors.

One also has to be careful as to what constitutes an error. If a
person didn't know his own date of birth and repeatedly kept giving the
wrong age, if we are none the wiser then what would be the "correct"
age, especially if there is more or less than ten years for the ages
given on consecutive censuses.

One the one hand, it is "to err is human" so hopefully we have become
more knowledgeable about the possibility of such errors and a mark of
a good researcher is to always be skeptical and to at least
double-check all the evidence.

Jeremy G Frankel
ex-London, England
Berkeley, California, USA


WOLFSHAUTs anywhere, but of particular interest right now in London #unitedkingdom

Arielle K. Masters
 

WOLFSHAUT is one of my main family lines.

Ours were >from Galicia and came to NYC, mostly between 1905-1915 or
thereabouts. For the longest time, I didn't know of anyone else with
this name in their family. In the past few years - with the spread of
Internet mailing lists and search engines, primarily - I have come
across a few other people researching this surname, but we have yet to
connect our line with theirs. WOLFSHAUTs keep popping up in records
for/mentioning Zolochev/Zlutchif/Zloczow, Sasov/Sassow/Saczow and Belyi
Kamen/Belyi Kamien/Bialykamin/Pilkyman (all now in Ukraine), and
Przemysl/Pchemychl/Premisl (now in Poland). Not too many years back, I
got in contact with a whole WOLFSHAUT clan or two in Romania.

A few years ago I found a death record for a WOLFSHAUT in London (Jenny
Woolf (Wolfshaut), d. 3/1/1997, 2 children) as well as a supposedly live
WOLFSHAUT in the London phone book. Just last night I found two London
births (Freda, recorded Dec. 1905; Joseph, recorded June 1907 - who were
their parents? What happened to them?) and a burial (Sophie, d.
11/17/1940, buried in plot Q-38 at Edmonton Federation - who is she
buried with/near?), which makes me think there may still be WOLFSHAUTs
in the London area. AFAIK, none of the other WOLFSHAUT researchers that
I've been in touch with over the years is related to the London family
unless the Freda birth is one of ours, although one line of WOLFSHAUTs
did live in England in the early-mid 1900s and we supposedly had a Tilly
or Tillie born in England.

I'm posting to this forum in the hopes of finding anyone who knows or is
related to any of the above WOLFSHAUTs or to other WOLFSHAUTs anywhere.
Thanks very much!

Arielle Masters
Oak Hill, NoVA, USA
http://genealogy.imstumped.com/wolfshaut.shtml

MODERATOR NOTE: Ongoing discussion via this group should be limited to any London
connection please.


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom WOLFSHAUTs anywhere, but of particular interest right now in London #unitedkingdom

Arielle K. Masters
 

WOLFSHAUT is one of my main family lines.

Ours were >from Galicia and came to NYC, mostly between 1905-1915 or
thereabouts. For the longest time, I didn't know of anyone else with
this name in their family. In the past few years - with the spread of
Internet mailing lists and search engines, primarily - I have come
across a few other people researching this surname, but we have yet to
connect our line with theirs. WOLFSHAUTs keep popping up in records
for/mentioning Zolochev/Zlutchif/Zloczow, Sasov/Sassow/Saczow and Belyi
Kamen/Belyi Kamien/Bialykamin/Pilkyman (all now in Ukraine), and
Przemysl/Pchemychl/Premisl (now in Poland). Not too many years back, I
got in contact with a whole WOLFSHAUT clan or two in Romania.

A few years ago I found a death record for a WOLFSHAUT in London (Jenny
Woolf (Wolfshaut), d. 3/1/1997, 2 children) as well as a supposedly live
WOLFSHAUT in the London phone book. Just last night I found two London
births (Freda, recorded Dec. 1905; Joseph, recorded June 1907 - who were
their parents? What happened to them?) and a burial (Sophie, d.
11/17/1940, buried in plot Q-38 at Edmonton Federation - who is she
buried with/near?), which makes me think there may still be WOLFSHAUTs
in the London area. AFAIK, none of the other WOLFSHAUT researchers that
I've been in touch with over the years is related to the London family
unless the Freda birth is one of ours, although one line of WOLFSHAUTs
did live in England in the early-mid 1900s and we supposedly had a Tilly
or Tillie born in England.

I'm posting to this forum in the hopes of finding anyone who knows or is
related to any of the above WOLFSHAUTs or to other WOLFSHAUTs anywhere.
Thanks very much!

Arielle Masters
Oak Hill, NoVA, USA
http://genealogy.imstumped.com/wolfshaut.shtml

MODERATOR NOTE: Ongoing discussion via this group should be limited to any London
connection please.


The NYPL (New York Public Library) digital collection #general

martha <martha@...>
 

Thanks to David Priever for posting the URL for the digital
collection. I think they have a few glitches to work out.
I searched for BACHRACH and wound up with a picture of
Bishop John Foley instead! Wrong tribe!

Martha
--
Martha Levinson Lev-Zion, Ph.D.
The 24th IAJGS International Conference on Jewish Genealogy
Jerusalem, July 4-9, 2004
http://www.jewishgen.org/jerusalem2004


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen The NYPL (New York Public Library) digital collection #general

martha <martha@...>
 

Thanks to David Priever for posting the URL for the digital
collection. I think they have a few glitches to work out.
I searched for BACHRACH and wound up with a picture of
Bishop John Foley instead! Wrong tribe!

Martha
--
Martha Levinson Lev-Zion, Ph.D.
The 24th IAJGS International Conference on Jewish Genealogy
Jerusalem, July 4-9, 2004
http://www.jewishgen.org/jerusalem2004