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Re: site mentioning exact death dates in Auschwitz !!! #general

Rosanne Leeson <rdleeson@...>
 

Dear Andres,

This list has been created >from the listing in the Journal Officiel of
France, Legifrance. The listing was developed >from those who claimed
death certificates for their lost family members. So it would seem that
someone has made such a claim >from the French government for the family
members you have found. It has nothing to do with German lists, etc.

There is a Link to both the sites of Legifrance, and the reformatting of
Daniel Carouge and Patrick Cheylan on the web site of the FrenchSIG
www.jewishgen.org/french which explains this matter.

Rosanne Leeson
Co-Coordinator
FrenchSIG

Andres Carciente wrote:

I have found in the www.mortsdanslescamps.com
site the death dates of members of my family
deported >from France.

I tried to contact Mr. Patrick CHEYLAN who is in
charge with the page, but did not get any answer.

I wanted to ask what is his source?
Did the germans keep any records in Auschwitz ???
I am asking, because he is not only providing the
year, but also the month and the day of death!!!

I would appreciate any orientation!
Thanks,

Andres Carciente
Budapest


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: site mentioning exact death dates in Auschwitz !!! #general

Rosanne Leeson <rdleeson@...>
 

Dear Andres,

This list has been created >from the listing in the Journal Officiel of
France, Legifrance. The listing was developed >from those who claimed
death certificates for their lost family members. So it would seem that
someone has made such a claim >from the French government for the family
members you have found. It has nothing to do with German lists, etc.

There is a Link to both the sites of Legifrance, and the reformatting of
Daniel Carouge and Patrick Cheylan on the web site of the FrenchSIG
www.jewishgen.org/french which explains this matter.

Rosanne Leeson
Co-Coordinator
FrenchSIG

Andres Carciente wrote:

I have found in the www.mortsdanslescamps.com
site the death dates of members of my family
deported >from France.

I tried to contact Mr. Patrick CHEYLAN who is in
charge with the page, but did not get any answer.

I wanted to ask what is his source?
Did the germans keep any records in Auschwitz ???
I am asking, because he is not only providing the
year, but also the month and the day of death!!!

I would appreciate any orientation!
Thanks,

Andres Carciente
Budapest


JGS of Cleveland July meeting #general

C&V <proprius@...>
 

The July meeting of the JGS of Cleveland will be "Where Do I Go
from Here?". Gary Silverstein, Program Director, will present some new
data sources and guide us on our research paths. Maybe he will even be
able to break down some brick walls. If you need some ideas for your
next step, please write down your question and the sources you have
tried without success, and bring it to the meeting. Also, we will ask
each member to tell his/her favorite source for genealogical research.

When: 7:30 p.m., Wednesday, July 7
Where: Menorah Park Miller Boardroom (upstairs)
27100 Cedar Rd., Beachwood

Cynthia Spikell
1st V.P.


Re: Tomashpol #ukraine

NFatouros@...
 

On July 2, 04 Norman Simms asked about Tomashpol, which he believes was a
suburb of Odessa. So far as I know, it was not not a suburb of Odessa. Its
connection to Odessa was through a railroad which ran >from Vinnitsa in Podolia to
Odessa.

Chester G. Cohen's "Shtetl Finder Gazetteer" says that Tomashpol was north
of Odessa and south of Vinnitsa. He notes that in 1884 the newspaper
"Hamelitz"published an article by Mosha Baran which concerned the eviction of the Jews
from the nearby village of Verbka. Hamelitz also published writings by Moshe
Zlotkin a correspondent. Tomashpol was the birthplace of Alexander Portnoff
who became a sculptor and painter in Philadelphia

A description of Tomashpol can be found in an essay on Podolian Shtetl
architecture, by Alla Sokolova in Gennady Estraikh and Mikhail Krutikov, eds. "The
Shtetl: Image and Reality," Papers of the Second Mendel Friedman
International Conference on Yiddis, European Homanities Reseach Center, University of
Oxford.2000. This book can be purchased used or new online and should be
available in situ or through an interlibrary book loan program at any good University
or Public library.

According to the Sokolova essay, the town was bordered by a small stream to
the west, and by the river Ruzny on the south. It had three main streets
which went >from the small square near a bridge. Its large synagogue was built
during the late eighteenth century. Three synagogues buildings. destroyed during
WWII, were in the late nineteenth to early twentieth century were located in
the terraces of common houses. The Roman Catholic Church stood on a high
plateau.

Sokolova writes that she was told by a Tomashpol resident that there was a
tradition of celebrating the Sukkoth on the loggias on the pediments of houses
with two-pitch gable roofs.

Page 67 of this book has an indistinct plan of Tomashpol showing the
location of its houses, its oldest stone synagogue and of a mikvah. It also shows
the "newer" synagogues, Russian Orthodox Churches, the Jewish cemetery and the
Roman Catholic Church.

A "google" search turned up several URLs, one of the Weisenthal Center,
which describes Tomashpol's Holocaust experience and another which says that the
famous sugar magnates Brodsky had a factory in Tomashpol.

My old Columbia-Lippincott Gazetteer notes only that the town was noted for
sugar refining.

Miriam Weiner's "Jewish Roots in Ukraine and Moldova" says that some
Tomashpol army, census, death, marriage and notary records are located in Kamenetz
Podolsky warehoused archives. But she reported that parts of this archive
collection were damaged or lost during a fire in April 2003. What can be
restored and saved will be sent to the Khmelnitsky archives but, unless I am
mistaken, to date, Ms. Weiner has not learned and reported just what items were
salvaged nor when they will be available to look through.

(I wonder whether Norman Simms is the same Norman Simms of Waikato
University of New Zealand, with whom I correponded a couple of years ago.)

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
BELKOWSKY,BIELKOWSKY, BILKOWSKI, Odessa,St. Petersburg,Berdichev,
Kiev;ROTHSTEIN, Kremenchug;FRASCH,Kiev;LIBERMAN,Moscow;FELDMAN, Pinsk;
SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets;LEVY, WEIL, Mulhouse; SAS/SASS,Podwolochisk;
RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Podwolochisk, RADOMYSL?; BEHAM, Salok, Kharkov;
WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGS of Cleveland July meeting #general

C&V <proprius@...>
 

The July meeting of the JGS of Cleveland will be "Where Do I Go
from Here?". Gary Silverstein, Program Director, will present some new
data sources and guide us on our research paths. Maybe he will even be
able to break down some brick walls. If you need some ideas for your
next step, please write down your question and the sources you have
tried without success, and bring it to the meeting. Also, we will ask
each member to tell his/her favorite source for genealogical research.

When: 7:30 p.m., Wednesday, July 7
Where: Menorah Park Miller Boardroom (upstairs)
27100 Cedar Rd., Beachwood

Cynthia Spikell
1st V.P.


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Tomashpol #ukraine

NFatouros@...
 

On July 2, 04 Norman Simms asked about Tomashpol, which he believes was a
suburb of Odessa. So far as I know, it was not not a suburb of Odessa. Its
connection to Odessa was through a railroad which ran >from Vinnitsa in Podolia to
Odessa.

Chester G. Cohen's "Shtetl Finder Gazetteer" says that Tomashpol was north
of Odessa and south of Vinnitsa. He notes that in 1884 the newspaper
"Hamelitz"published an article by Mosha Baran which concerned the eviction of the Jews
from the nearby village of Verbka. Hamelitz also published writings by Moshe
Zlotkin a correspondent. Tomashpol was the birthplace of Alexander Portnoff
who became a sculptor and painter in Philadelphia

A description of Tomashpol can be found in an essay on Podolian Shtetl
architecture, by Alla Sokolova in Gennady Estraikh and Mikhail Krutikov, eds. "The
Shtetl: Image and Reality," Papers of the Second Mendel Friedman
International Conference on Yiddis, European Homanities Reseach Center, University of
Oxford.2000. This book can be purchased used or new online and should be
available in situ or through an interlibrary book loan program at any good University
or Public library.

According to the Sokolova essay, the town was bordered by a small stream to
the west, and by the river Ruzny on the south. It had three main streets
which went >from the small square near a bridge. Its large synagogue was built
during the late eighteenth century. Three synagogues buildings. destroyed during
WWII, were in the late nineteenth to early twentieth century were located in
the terraces of common houses. The Roman Catholic Church stood on a high
plateau.

Sokolova writes that she was told by a Tomashpol resident that there was a
tradition of celebrating the Sukkoth on the loggias on the pediments of houses
with two-pitch gable roofs.

Page 67 of this book has an indistinct plan of Tomashpol showing the
location of its houses, its oldest stone synagogue and of a mikvah. It also shows
the "newer" synagogues, Russian Orthodox Churches, the Jewish cemetery and the
Roman Catholic Church.

A "google" search turned up several URLs, one of the Weisenthal Center,
which describes Tomashpol's Holocaust experience and another which says that the
famous sugar magnates Brodsky had a factory in Tomashpol.

My old Columbia-Lippincott Gazetteer notes only that the town was noted for
sugar refining.

Miriam Weiner's "Jewish Roots in Ukraine and Moldova" says that some
Tomashpol army, census, death, marriage and notary records are located in Kamenetz
Podolsky warehoused archives. But she reported that parts of this archive
collection were damaged or lost during a fire in April 2003. What can be
restored and saved will be sent to the Khmelnitsky archives but, unless I am
mistaken, to date, Ms. Weiner has not learned and reported just what items were
salvaged nor when they will be available to look through.

(I wonder whether Norman Simms is the same Norman Simms of Waikato
University of New Zealand, with whom I correponded a couple of years ago.)

Naomi Fatouros (nee FELDMAN)
Bloomington, Indiana
NFatouros@aol.com
BELKOWSKY,BIELKOWSKY, BILKOWSKI, Odessa,St. Petersburg,Berdichev,
Kiev;ROTHSTEIN, Kremenchug;FRASCH,Kiev;LIBERMAN,Moscow;FELDMAN, Pinsk;
SCHUTZ, RETTIG, WAHL, Shcherets;LEVY, WEIL, Mulhouse; SAS/SASS,Podwolochisk;
RAPOPORT, Tarnopol, Podwolochisk, RADOMYSL?; BEHAM, Salok, Kharkov;
WOLPIANSKY, Ostryna.


Announcing: Lodz Ghetto Database #lodz #poland

Shirley Flaum <saraella2@...>
 

[MODERATOR NOTE: This message is reprinted >from the JewishGen Discussion Group.
Congratulations to everyone involved in making this extremely valuable database
available to the public online!]

From: Warren Blatt <wblatt@jewishgen.org>
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2004 11:21:39 -0700

JewishGen and Yad Vashem are pleased to announce the availability
of a major new resource -- the Lodz Ghetto Database, a record of
the 240,000 inhabitants of the Lodz Ghetto.

< http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Poland/LodzGhetto.html >.

Prior to World War II, one-third of the 665,000 inhabitants of
the Polish city of Lodz were Jewish. On September 8, 1939, the
city was captured by the Germans and renamed "Litzmannstadt".
In 1940, a ghetto was created and sealed off. Transports arrived
from many other towns in Poland and throughout Europe.
Population registry books were kept by the Judenrat (Jewish
council) of the Lodz ghetto, >from the time of establishment of the
Ghetto in February 1940 until just prior to its liquidation in
August 1944. The records were maintained by apartment address,
and were updated on a continuing basis. In addition to the names
of the residents in an apartment, these records sometimes include
the former addresses, dates of birth, occupation, and date of
deportation or death of the individual.

There are approximately 242,000 separate entries on the database,
which tracks the movement of individuals into, within, and out of
the ghetto.

Yad Vashem, with the assistance of the Organization of Former
Residents of Lodz in Israel, was able to purchase a copy of the
registers >from the Polish State Archives. The result was
published by the Organization of Former Residents of Lodz in Israel
in a five volume set: "Lodz-Names: List of the Ghetto Inhabitants,
1940-1944", and was later digitized by volunteers at Yad Vashem.

We gratefully acknowledge the generosity of the Organization of
Former Residents of Lodz in Israel (Tel Aviv); and Yad Vashem,
The Holocaust Martyrs and Heroes Remembrance Authority (Jerusalem),
for making this remarkable database available to JewishGen.


The new Lodz Ghetto Database can be found at
< http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Poland/LodzGhetto.html >,
and this data is also now included in the All Poland Database
and JewishGen's Holocaust Database:
< http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Poland > and
< http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Holocaust >.

Warren

Warren Blatt
JewishGen Editor-in-Chief
<wblatt@jewishgen.org>


Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland Announcing: Lodz Ghetto Database #lodz #poland

Shirley Flaum <saraella2@...>
 

[MODERATOR NOTE: This message is reprinted >from the JewishGen Discussion Group.
Congratulations to everyone involved in making this extremely valuable database
available to the public online!]

From: Warren Blatt <wblatt@jewishgen.org>
Date: Sat, 03 Jul 2004 11:21:39 -0700

JewishGen and Yad Vashem are pleased to announce the availability
of a major new resource -- the Lodz Ghetto Database, a record of
the 240,000 inhabitants of the Lodz Ghetto.

< http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Poland/LodzGhetto.html >.

Prior to World War II, one-third of the 665,000 inhabitants of
the Polish city of Lodz were Jewish. On September 8, 1939, the
city was captured by the Germans and renamed "Litzmannstadt".
In 1940, a ghetto was created and sealed off. Transports arrived
from many other towns in Poland and throughout Europe.
Population registry books were kept by the Judenrat (Jewish
council) of the Lodz ghetto, >from the time of establishment of the
Ghetto in February 1940 until just prior to its liquidation in
August 1944. The records were maintained by apartment address,
and were updated on a continuing basis. In addition to the names
of the residents in an apartment, these records sometimes include
the former addresses, dates of birth, occupation, and date of
deportation or death of the individual.

There are approximately 242,000 separate entries on the database,
which tracks the movement of individuals into, within, and out of
the ghetto.

Yad Vashem, with the assistance of the Organization of Former
Residents of Lodz in Israel, was able to purchase a copy of the
registers >from the Polish State Archives. The result was
published by the Organization of Former Residents of Lodz in Israel
in a five volume set: "Lodz-Names: List of the Ghetto Inhabitants,
1940-1944", and was later digitized by volunteers at Yad Vashem.

We gratefully acknowledge the generosity of the Organization of
Former Residents of Lodz in Israel (Tel Aviv); and Yad Vashem,
The Holocaust Martyrs and Heroes Remembrance Authority (Jerusalem),
for making this remarkable database available to JewishGen.


The new Lodz Ghetto Database can be found at
< http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Poland/LodzGhetto.html >,
and this data is also now included in the All Poland Database
and JewishGen's Holocaust Database:
< http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Poland > and
< http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Holocaust >.

Warren

Warren Blatt
JewishGen Editor-in-Chief
<wblatt@jewishgen.org>


the 60th Anniversary of the Liquidation of the Litzmannstadt Ghetto in Lodz #lodz #poland

Shirley Flaum <saraella2@...>
 

[MODERATOR NOTE: This message is reprinted >from the JewishGen Discussion Group.]

Subject: the 60th Anniversary of the Liquidation of the Litzmannstadt Ghetto in Lodz
From: "Julia Maria Koszewska" <julia_koszewska@wp.pl>
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 16:52:58 +0200

from 18th August to the 2nd of September 2004:
In the seat of The Monumentum Iudaicum Foundation
(18, Pomorska street,Lodz, Poland) will be open an
information and contact point for people searching
their relatives and friends who were witnesses
of tragedy of the Litzmannstadt Ghetto.

this is a part of many events organised to commemorate
the 60th Anniversary of the Liquidation of the Litzmannstadt
Ghetto in Lodz.for more details, please visit
the official website:
http://www.ghetto.lodz.pl/ghetto/index2.php
and
http://www.lodzjews.org/en/indexen.htm


Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland the 60th Anniversary of the Liquidation of the Litzmannstadt Ghetto in Lodz #lodz #poland

Shirley Flaum <saraella2@...>
 

[MODERATOR NOTE: This message is reprinted >from the JewishGen Discussion Group.]

Subject: the 60th Anniversary of the Liquidation of the Litzmannstadt Ghetto in Lodz
From: "Julia Maria Koszewska" <julia_koszewska@wp.pl>
Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2004 16:52:58 +0200

from 18th August to the 2nd of September 2004:
In the seat of The Monumentum Iudaicum Foundation
(18, Pomorska street,Lodz, Poland) will be open an
information and contact point for people searching
their relatives and friends who were witnesses
of tragedy of the Litzmannstadt Ghetto.

this is a part of many events organised to commemorate
the 60th Anniversary of the Liquidation of the Litzmannstadt
Ghetto in Lodz.for more details, please visit
the official website:
http://www.ghetto.lodz.pl/ghetto/index2.php
and
http://www.lodzjews.org/en/indexen.htm


Lodz Area Research Group for FRANKENTAL-BAUMGARTEN Families #lodz #poland

Edna Hoover
 

I 've been trying to put together a family tree for our
FRANKENTAL-BAUMGARTEN branches >from the Lodz-Leczyca area. I've been working
entirely through Jewish Gen and have not gotten very far over the past 4
years. Perhaps you can help me locate more information:

1. I located JRI-Poland marriage records for Liebe Brane FRANKENTAL, b. 1878
Leczyca and Menahem BAUMGARTEN b. 1876 Leczyca:

Town: Lodz PSA BMD 1899,1900 Gubernia: Piotrkow / Province: Lodz
(records in Fond 1568 in Lodz Archive) Located at 51°45' 19°28' Last
updated June 2001
Surname Given name Year Type Akt
BAUMGARTEN Menachem 1900 M 414
FRANKENTAL Liba Brana 1900 M 414

2. I found 1942 deportation records for Leser Hirsch BAUMGARTEN, b.1905
Leczyca in the Belgian Jewish Museum. He's listed with his wife, Mariem
Hinde FUHRER REINHOLD and their 2 children, Nesanel Wolf and Anna.

3. Leser Hirsch was the brother of our grandfather, Sucher Mordkhe-Max
BAUMGARTEN, b.1903 Leczyca, escaped Vienna, Austria ca. 1938. His maternal
grandparents are listed as Shabse FRANKENTAL and Sarah HAMBURGER. His
paternal grandparents are listed as Yehudah Leib BAUMGARTEN and Anna Taube
IZBUTSKY.

4. HEYMANN's genealogy website www.heymannfamily.com has a listing for a
Yoel FRANKENTAL, b. 1922, living in Bnei Brak, Israel, who may be a cousin
of our grandfather. The names of his descendants match our family names-
Yissachar, Mordechai, Menachem and Yehudah.

4. There are 2 holocaust records for Sucher and Sucher Mordkhe FRANKENTAL
from Lodz. He was born in 1918 and is listed as a Dachau survivor-
Pinkas HaNitzolim I - Register of Jewish Survivors
Searching for Surname FRANKENTAL (D-M code 796563) Number of hits: 7

Name (Maiden Name) Age / Year Born Place Former Residence/ Birth Place List
Name Page Comments

FRANKENTAL, Sucher Year Born: 18 Lodz

Polish Jews Liberated >from the Dachau Camp - 9 103 Lodz Ghetto List
Searching for Surname FRANKENTAL (D-M code 796563) Number of hits: 37

Name Maiden/ Other Surnames Marital Status Born/ Age Gender Residence
Address
Ghetto Street House Next Address Date Reg Type Deported/ Type
Transport/ Destination Died Place Notes Occupation

FRANKENTAL, Sucher Mordka 1918 M Lodz, Poland Sud 29
Pfauen Strasse 18 Flat 3 27/04/1941 / AG
Strumpfarb

5. Our grandfather also said that his family was related to the KOENIG and
HAMBURGER families in the same town. Years ago, I found references to both
families in Itzhak Yedidiah FRENKEL's "Sefer Linshits" Yizkor Book, Tel Aviv
1953, but I was not able to ascertain the relationships-

P. 200 states that the family of Getsel-Goetzl KEINIG-KOENIG, the Mohel, and
his daughters Priba, Fraide, Hindel, Liebe Braineh, Manya, Kriysa, and all
their families were killed in the Holocaust. KOENIG, Hayyim Simha and his
wife Rahel... KOENIG, Leibel and his children... KOENIG, Freida and Beila
Hindel... Later on, he mentions Goetzel KOENIG, p. 205 and Leibel KOENIG, p.
204.
Re'uven HAMBURGER, or HAMBURGER, the Grocer, and his family are also
mentioned.

Any leads would be greatly appreciated...

Edna Hoover
JGFF Researcher # 66736


Lodz Area Research Group #Lodz #Poland Lodz Area Research Group for FRANKENTAL-BAUMGARTEN Families #lodz #poland

Edna Hoover
 

I 've been trying to put together a family tree for our
FRANKENTAL-BAUMGARTEN branches >from the Lodz-Leczyca area. I've been working
entirely through Jewish Gen and have not gotten very far over the past 4
years. Perhaps you can help me locate more information:

1. I located JRI-Poland marriage records for Liebe Brane FRANKENTAL, b. 1878
Leczyca and Menahem BAUMGARTEN b. 1876 Leczyca:

Town: Lodz PSA BMD 1899,1900 Gubernia: Piotrkow / Province: Lodz
(records in Fond 1568 in Lodz Archive) Located at 51°45' 19°28' Last
updated June 2001
Surname Given name Year Type Akt
BAUMGARTEN Menachem 1900 M 414
FRANKENTAL Liba Brana 1900 M 414

2. I found 1942 deportation records for Leser Hirsch BAUMGARTEN, b.1905
Leczyca in the Belgian Jewish Museum. He's listed with his wife, Mariem
Hinde FUHRER REINHOLD and their 2 children, Nesanel Wolf and Anna.

3. Leser Hirsch was the brother of our grandfather, Sucher Mordkhe-Max
BAUMGARTEN, b.1903 Leczyca, escaped Vienna, Austria ca. 1938. His maternal
grandparents are listed as Shabse FRANKENTAL and Sarah HAMBURGER. His
paternal grandparents are listed as Yehudah Leib BAUMGARTEN and Anna Taube
IZBUTSKY.

4. HEYMANN's genealogy website www.heymannfamily.com has a listing for a
Yoel FRANKENTAL, b. 1922, living in Bnei Brak, Israel, who may be a cousin
of our grandfather. The names of his descendants match our family names-
Yissachar, Mordechai, Menachem and Yehudah.

4. There are 2 holocaust records for Sucher and Sucher Mordkhe FRANKENTAL
from Lodz. He was born in 1918 and is listed as a Dachau survivor-
Pinkas HaNitzolim I - Register of Jewish Survivors
Searching for Surname FRANKENTAL (D-M code 796563) Number of hits: 7

Name (Maiden Name) Age / Year Born Place Former Residence/ Birth Place List
Name Page Comments

FRANKENTAL, Sucher Year Born: 18 Lodz

Polish Jews Liberated >from the Dachau Camp - 9 103 Lodz Ghetto List
Searching for Surname FRANKENTAL (D-M code 796563) Number of hits: 37

Name Maiden/ Other Surnames Marital Status Born/ Age Gender Residence
Address
Ghetto Street House Next Address Date Reg Type Deported/ Type
Transport/ Destination Died Place Notes Occupation

FRANKENTAL, Sucher Mordka 1918 M Lodz, Poland Sud 29
Pfauen Strasse 18 Flat 3 27/04/1941 / AG
Strumpfarb

5. Our grandfather also said that his family was related to the KOENIG and
HAMBURGER families in the same town. Years ago, I found references to both
families in Itzhak Yedidiah FRENKEL's "Sefer Linshits" Yizkor Book, Tel Aviv
1953, but I was not able to ascertain the relationships-

P. 200 states that the family of Getsel-Goetzl KEINIG-KOENIG, the Mohel, and
his daughters Priba, Fraide, Hindel, Liebe Braineh, Manya, Kriysa, and all
their families were killed in the Holocaust. KOENIG, Hayyim Simha and his
wife Rahel... KOENIG, Leibel and his children... KOENIG, Freida and Beila
Hindel... Later on, he mentions Goetzel KOENIG, p. 205 and Leibel KOENIG, p.
204.
Re'uven HAMBURGER, or HAMBURGER, the Grocer, and his family are also
mentioned.

Any leads would be greatly appreciated...

Edna Hoover
JGFF Researcher # 66736


Rav Shaul Rafael of Predborz #rabbinic

Michael Rosenberg <mjrsnbrg@...>
 

I would very much appreciate if anybody has any information on Rav
Shaul Rafael LANDAU of Predborz. Apparently there were quite a few
Shaul Rafaels who stemmed >from the same family. The first one I have
notice of goes back to the second half of the 1700s.

Thank you very much,

Stephanie Rosenberg


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Rav Shaul Rafael of Predborz #rabbinic

Michael Rosenberg <mjrsnbrg@...>
 

I would very much appreciate if anybody has any information on Rav
Shaul Rafael LANDAU of Predborz. Apparently there were quite a few
Shaul Rafaels who stemmed >from the same family. The first one I have
notice of goes back to the second half of the 1700s.

Thank you very much,

Stephanie Rosenberg


Surname website #unitedkingdom

Derek & Rosemary Wenzerul <dandr@...>
 

The following message was shown on JewishGenDiscussion List: It is an
excellent web-site. I found details of my great-grandmother. As it says,
there are choices of all the countries including the UK.


Dear Genners:
Great site for checking Surnames. Even though it says Russia once you
get there you have other country choices.When you type in a name,
different web sites pop up with the name you've requested and
then you have links to the names that show up.

http://www.rat.de/kuijsten/navigator/russia/index.html

Rosemary Wenzerul
dandr@wenzeds.freeserve.co.uk


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Surname website #unitedkingdom

Derek & Rosemary Wenzerul <dandr@...>
 

The following message was shown on JewishGenDiscussion List: It is an
excellent web-site. I found details of my great-grandmother. As it says,
there are choices of all the countries including the UK.


Dear Genners:
Great site for checking Surnames. Even though it says Russia once you
get there you have other country choices.When you type in a name,
different web sites pop up with the name you've requested and
then you have links to the names that show up.

http://www.rat.de/kuijsten/navigator/russia/index.html

Rosemary Wenzerul
dandr@wenzeds.freeserve.co.uk


Re: The female name Sprintz - RESOURCE CITATION #germany

Christof Eberstadt <CPA-Eberstadt@...>
 

In my family there was a Sprinz in Worms-Hessen, who adopted the first
name "Franziska" in 1808 when, due to a Napoleonic law, Jews had to
choose new names. I quite often found this transformation
Sprinz-Franziska in other families, while I did not had Sprinz-Sofie
before.

In Worms, 513 Jews are counted in the 1808-act and most of them
presented by their old an their new name. Often the new name was
identical with the old one. I have the complete list, in copy of the
handwritten act, and typed, sorted by number, family name, and first
name. I have also a list comparing the 1808 list with the list of 1801,
when birth dates and places were given. If someone's interested in
information, she and he can contact me directly.

Christof Eberstadt Searching Worms famlies Erlangen, Germany


German SIG #Germany Re: The female name Sprintz - RESOURCE CITATION #germany

Christof Eberstadt <CPA-Eberstadt@...>
 

In my family there was a Sprinz in Worms-Hessen, who adopted the first
name "Franziska" in 1808 when, due to a Napoleonic law, Jews had to
choose new names. I quite often found this transformation
Sprinz-Franziska in other families, while I did not had Sprinz-Sofie
before.

In Worms, 513 Jews are counted in the 1808-act and most of them
presented by their old an their new name. Often the new name was
identical with the old one. I have the complete list, in copy of the
handwritten act, and typed, sorted by number, family name, and first
name. I have also a list comparing the 1808 list with the list of 1801,
when birth dates and places were given. If someone's interested in
information, she and he can contact me directly.

Christof Eberstadt Searching Worms famlies Erlangen, Germany


INTRO - Researching: BINENBAUM, FORMAN, WUBACK, ABRAM-ICKOWNA, GERSHKOVNA #germany

Larry Schenker <lpsca@...>
 

I am a new member, Larry Schenker, >from Los Angeles, California, United
States and I want to thank you for allowing me to join this SIG. [See note below.]

I am writing to introduce myself and my research to the other
subscribers. By posting this information to this SIG, I would hope to
get any help and/or information that might be known about my ancestry
Surnames.

Below is information about the Surnames or any possible derivation of
the Surnames that I am searching for:
. BINENBAUM or any derivation of this Surname
. FORMAN or any derivation of this Surname
. WUBACK or any derivation of this Surname
. ABRAHAM-ITSKOVA or any derivation of this Surname
. GERSHKOVNA or any derivation of this Surname

The details follow:
BINENBAUM, Abram Beniaminowich born 1783 in Russian Poland. According to
the 1809 Russian Census he was living in Brest-Litovsk.
UNKNOWN MAIDEN NAME, Doba born 1777 in Russian Poland. According to the
1809 Russian Census she was living in Brest-Litovsk. Abram & Doba
married circa 1803 in possibly Brest-Litovsk.

FORMAN, Louis born circa 1830 in Russian Poland
WUBACK, Dora born circa 1830 in Russian Poland
Dora & Louis married circa 1850 in Russian Poland

FORMAN, Pesse daughter of Dora & Louis born May 25, 1852 in Russian
Poland
BINENBAUM, Israel Leon born circa 1860 in Russian Poland
Pesse & Israel married circa 1880 in Russian Poland

BINENBAUM, Anshel son of Pesse & Israel born August 15, 1881 in Brisk,
Russia
ABRAHAM-ITSKOVA or possibly GERSHKOVNA, Tsiva or Ciwze born circa 1881
in Russian Poland
Tsiva or Ciwze & Anshel married circa 1902 in possible Brest-Litovsk,
Russia

BINENBAUM, Jackal (my father) first son of Tsiva or Ciwze & Anshel born
June 8, 1904 in Brest-Litovsk, Russia. He might have had a twin sibling
who died at birth or shortly after birth.

BINENBAUM, Gutman (Gimann) second son of Tsiva or Ciwze & Anshel born
March 1, 1906 in Brest-Litovsk, Russia.

BINENBAUM, Anshel left his wife (Tsiva or Ciwze), young sons (Jackal)
and (Gimann) and mother (Pesse) in Brest-Litovsk, Russia in March or
April 1906 and traveled to Germany, then onto a port city in either
France, Belgium or The Netherlands. Then Anshel traveled to Liverpool
England (stopping for at least one night in Sheffield - where he had an
older brother living). Then on May 18, 1906 he boarded the vessel S/S
Haverford and arrived in Philadelphia, PA USA on May 28, 1906. Shortly
thereafter he traveled to New York City and in 1910 we find him living
at 29 Ridge Street, New York City, NY USA. This was on the Lower East
Side. Sometime after his arrival in the United States he assumed the
name of Jacob SCHENKER.

In 1911, Tsiva or Ciwze, Jackal, Gimann & Pesse traveled >from Brest-
Litvosk to Antwerp to board the Lapland (Red Star Line) and sailed to
New York City. They arrived on December 12, 1911 and immediately went to
join Anshel BINENBAUM (now called Jacob SCHENKER) at either 32 Attorney Street
or 220 Madison Street, both on the Lower East Side, New York City, NY USA.

Larry Schenker (Binenbaum) OWNER/MODERATOR Yahoo! brest_belarus Group
Los Angeles, CA, USA E-mail: lpsca@earthlink.net

MODERATOR NOTE: You are welcome in GerSig as is anyone. However, as this Forum
is **only** for discussion of **German speaking ancestry** research you should
restrict further messages to questions and comments regarding your research on
ancestors in Germany or German-speaking areas.


German SIG #Germany INTRO - Researching: BINENBAUM, FORMAN, WUBACK, ABRAM-ICKOWNA, GERSHKOVNA #germany

Larry Schenker <lpsca@...>
 

I am a new member, Larry Schenker, >from Los Angeles, California, United
States and I want to thank you for allowing me to join this SIG. [See note below.]

I am writing to introduce myself and my research to the other
subscribers. By posting this information to this SIG, I would hope to
get any help and/or information that might be known about my ancestry
Surnames.

Below is information about the Surnames or any possible derivation of
the Surnames that I am searching for:
. BINENBAUM or any derivation of this Surname
. FORMAN or any derivation of this Surname
. WUBACK or any derivation of this Surname
. ABRAHAM-ITSKOVA or any derivation of this Surname
. GERSHKOVNA or any derivation of this Surname

The details follow:
BINENBAUM, Abram Beniaminowich born 1783 in Russian Poland. According to
the 1809 Russian Census he was living in Brest-Litovsk.
UNKNOWN MAIDEN NAME, Doba born 1777 in Russian Poland. According to the
1809 Russian Census she was living in Brest-Litovsk. Abram & Doba
married circa 1803 in possibly Brest-Litovsk.

FORMAN, Louis born circa 1830 in Russian Poland
WUBACK, Dora born circa 1830 in Russian Poland
Dora & Louis married circa 1850 in Russian Poland

FORMAN, Pesse daughter of Dora & Louis born May 25, 1852 in Russian
Poland
BINENBAUM, Israel Leon born circa 1860 in Russian Poland
Pesse & Israel married circa 1880 in Russian Poland

BINENBAUM, Anshel son of Pesse & Israel born August 15, 1881 in Brisk,
Russia
ABRAHAM-ITSKOVA or possibly GERSHKOVNA, Tsiva or Ciwze born circa 1881
in Russian Poland
Tsiva or Ciwze & Anshel married circa 1902 in possible Brest-Litovsk,
Russia

BINENBAUM, Jackal (my father) first son of Tsiva or Ciwze & Anshel born
June 8, 1904 in Brest-Litovsk, Russia. He might have had a twin sibling
who died at birth or shortly after birth.

BINENBAUM, Gutman (Gimann) second son of Tsiva or Ciwze & Anshel born
March 1, 1906 in Brest-Litovsk, Russia.

BINENBAUM, Anshel left his wife (Tsiva or Ciwze), young sons (Jackal)
and (Gimann) and mother (Pesse) in Brest-Litovsk, Russia in March or
April 1906 and traveled to Germany, then onto a port city in either
France, Belgium or The Netherlands. Then Anshel traveled to Liverpool
England (stopping for at least one night in Sheffield - where he had an
older brother living). Then on May 18, 1906 he boarded the vessel S/S
Haverford and arrived in Philadelphia, PA USA on May 28, 1906. Shortly
thereafter he traveled to New York City and in 1910 we find him living
at 29 Ridge Street, New York City, NY USA. This was on the Lower East
Side. Sometime after his arrival in the United States he assumed the
name of Jacob SCHENKER.

In 1911, Tsiva or Ciwze, Jackal, Gimann & Pesse traveled >from Brest-
Litvosk to Antwerp to board the Lapland (Red Star Line) and sailed to
New York City. They arrived on December 12, 1911 and immediately went to
join Anshel BINENBAUM (now called Jacob SCHENKER) at either 32 Attorney Street
or 220 Madison Street, both on the Lower East Side, New York City, NY USA.

Larry Schenker (Binenbaum) OWNER/MODERATOR Yahoo! brest_belarus Group
Los Angeles, CA, USA E-mail: lpsca@earthlink.net

MODERATOR NOTE: You are welcome in GerSig as is anyone. However, as this Forum
is **only** for discussion of **German speaking ancestry** research you should
restrict further messages to questions and comments regarding your research on
ancestors in Germany or German-speaking areas.