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Israeli Death Certificate #general

adam1gs@...
 

Please excuse the confusion on this posting, but I, and a number of others,
would greatly appreciate hearing >from someone who can tell us how to get an
Israeli Death Certificate on a relative that passed away in Israel.
Thank you very much for your help.

Fred Klein
adam1gs@adelphia.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Israeli Death Certificate #general

adam1gs@...
 

Please excuse the confusion on this posting, but I, and a number of others,
would greatly appreciate hearing >from someone who can tell us how to get an
Israeli Death Certificate on a relative that passed away in Israel.
Thank you very much for your help.

Fred Klein
adam1gs@adelphia.net


Re: NYC Death Certificates #general

Sally Bruckheimer
 

NY City Death Certificates are very complete - a
burial couldn't take place without one; even in the
1860's, there were death certificates.

So, why else wouldn't you find one. Perhaps wrong
name, like the one case where the cemetery record had
the wrong name, perhaps the death certificate had a
bad misspelling or the wrong name. Wrong place; have
you looked at all conceivable locations? Even if
someone lived and is buried in NYC, it is possible
that the person died in some other place - went to
Yonkers for the day and died there - went to a
hospital in NJ for some reason, etc. Wrong date;
perhaps you have the date wrong, or the stone is
wrong, or the cemetery record is wrong so you are
looking at the wrong time - maybe a year off or a
month.

If the person died long before or after the spouse,
the burial might have been in a different location in
the cemetery or even a different cemetery. With a
sudden death, the person might have been buried
somewhere, then, after many years, the spouse or
family might have decided on another place - perhaps
they couldn't afford 2 plots originally, or they
didn't like something about the cemetery, or whatever.

A suicide, unless of a famous person, probably
wouldn't make the NY Times, but there are lots of
other papers in NYC.

But how about a will or administration of estate? It
is easy to check; you don't need an exact date; and
you might get a lot of information.

Also, perhaps there was some legal matter which would
be recorded in the court records - this is a stab in
the dark, but again, pretty easy to check.

Sally Bruckheimer
Bridgewater, NJ


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: NYC Death Certificates #general

Sally Bruckheimer
 

NY City Death Certificates are very complete - a
burial couldn't take place without one; even in the
1860's, there were death certificates.

So, why else wouldn't you find one. Perhaps wrong
name, like the one case where the cemetery record had
the wrong name, perhaps the death certificate had a
bad misspelling or the wrong name. Wrong place; have
you looked at all conceivable locations? Even if
someone lived and is buried in NYC, it is possible
that the person died in some other place - went to
Yonkers for the day and died there - went to a
hospital in NJ for some reason, etc. Wrong date;
perhaps you have the date wrong, or the stone is
wrong, or the cemetery record is wrong so you are
looking at the wrong time - maybe a year off or a
month.

If the person died long before or after the spouse,
the burial might have been in a different location in
the cemetery or even a different cemetery. With a
sudden death, the person might have been buried
somewhere, then, after many years, the spouse or
family might have decided on another place - perhaps
they couldn't afford 2 plots originally, or they
didn't like something about the cemetery, or whatever.

A suicide, unless of a famous person, probably
wouldn't make the NY Times, but there are lots of
other papers in NYC.

But how about a will or administration of estate? It
is easy to check; you don't need an exact date; and
you might get a lot of information.

Also, perhaps there was some legal matter which would
be recorded in the court records - this is a stab in
the dark, but again, pretty easy to check.

Sally Bruckheimer
Bridgewater, NJ


Finding a NYC Death Certificate of a Suicide #general

Wendy Griswold <gris@...>
 

Hi, cousins.

For what it's worth:

1. >from my limited experience, it's been no more difficult for me to find
the death cert on a NYC 1947 suicide than it's been to find any other death
cert.

2. The reason it took me 2 years to find the correct information (not yet
the cert, but I have the exact date now) on the death of my aunt Fanny,
1925, is that her name was probably Ethel. Nobody ever called her anything
but Fanny, her headstone says Fanny, but when I backed into the marriage
certificate by using the groom's name, I found she was married under the
name of Ethel. Something tells me I'm going to find my uncle Wolf the same
way.

So don't exclude the possibility that the person went by another name.

Hope this helps,

Wendy Griswold
Arlington VA

Searching: BLITZ (near Lemburg), EINHORN (near Nowy Sacz), PFEIFFER/FIFER
(near Lemburg), DWASS/DAVIS (Ekaterinoslaw), WENZELBERG - every imaginable
spelling - (near Nowy Sacz),
SHIFULDREM (Near Nowy Sacz, spelling highly questionable)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Finding a NYC Death Certificate of a Suicide #general

Wendy Griswold <gris@...>
 

Hi, cousins.

For what it's worth:

1. >from my limited experience, it's been no more difficult for me to find
the death cert on a NYC 1947 suicide than it's been to find any other death
cert.

2. The reason it took me 2 years to find the correct information (not yet
the cert, but I have the exact date now) on the death of my aunt Fanny,
1925, is that her name was probably Ethel. Nobody ever called her anything
but Fanny, her headstone says Fanny, but when I backed into the marriage
certificate by using the groom's name, I found she was married under the
name of Ethel. Something tells me I'm going to find my uncle Wolf the same
way.

So don't exclude the possibility that the person went by another name.

Hope this helps,

Wendy Griswold
Arlington VA

Searching: BLITZ (near Lemburg), EINHORN (near Nowy Sacz), PFEIFFER/FIFER
(near Lemburg), DWASS/DAVIS (Ekaterinoslaw), WENZELBERG - every imaginable
spelling - (near Nowy Sacz),
SHIFULDREM (Near Nowy Sacz, spelling highly questionable)


Searching SEGAL #general

Mark Budman <budman@...>
 

Hello,

I would like to thank everyone for all their suggestions and assistance.
Now my search has led me to California.

My search starts with Solomon SEGAL, son of Sender. There is a burial record
for him which matches my information at the Mount Zion Cemetery in Los
Angeles:

Solomon Segal, Shlomo son of Sender, born 1883, died April 5 1933 and buried
Mt Zion Cemetery in Los Angeles

In addition, the 1930 USA census show Annie Segal, and Mary Segal together
with Solomon living in Los Angeles at the time. I think there is a good
chance that this is the same family in LA in 1930 that was in Toronto,
Ontario Canada in 1911.

The release of the 1911 Canadian Census helped me determine Solomon's family
members:

Wife Annie (b 1889), daughter Mary (B Jan 1910),and son Alexander (B 1911)

I even have a picture of Solomin Segal to compare against.

Please contact me if you have any information or suggestions on how to go
about solving this mystery.

Best Regards,

Mark
Mark J. Budman
Toronto, Canada
Researching SEGAL
budman@generation.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching SEGAL #general

Mark Budman <budman@...>
 

Hello,

I would like to thank everyone for all their suggestions and assistance.
Now my search has led me to California.

My search starts with Solomon SEGAL, son of Sender. There is a burial record
for him which matches my information at the Mount Zion Cemetery in Los
Angeles:

Solomon Segal, Shlomo son of Sender, born 1883, died April 5 1933 and buried
Mt Zion Cemetery in Los Angeles

In addition, the 1930 USA census show Annie Segal, and Mary Segal together
with Solomon living in Los Angeles at the time. I think there is a good
chance that this is the same family in LA in 1930 that was in Toronto,
Ontario Canada in 1911.

The release of the 1911 Canadian Census helped me determine Solomon's family
members:

Wife Annie (b 1889), daughter Mary (B Jan 1910),and son Alexander (B 1911)

I even have a picture of Solomin Segal to compare against.

Please contact me if you have any information or suggestions on how to go
about solving this mystery.

Best Regards,

Mark
Mark J. Budman
Toronto, Canada
Researching SEGAL
budman@generation.net


Need Books/Articles w/ basics #dna

Danielle James <daniandw@...>
 

I had a Jewish father and Gentile mother. I believe that, being a
woman, I only inherit the DNA code >from my mother. That there would
be no evidence of my father's DNA.

However, on a recent TV program, a girl born through the IVF program
(her mother being the recipient of male donor sperm) traced her
father through a half-brother - different mother, but same father.
This was proven conclusively through a DNA test.

How would this be possible if the DNA line is only perpetuated from
mother to daughter, father to son.

I would appreciate information about this - even advice on books to
read.

Sincerely

Danielle James
daniandw@chariot.net.au

[Moderator's Note: You may want to check the resources cited at
the bottom of the webpage at http://www.ftdna.com/dna101.html ]


DNA Research #DNA Need Books/Articles w/ basics #dna

Danielle James <daniandw@...>
 

I had a Jewish father and Gentile mother. I believe that, being a
woman, I only inherit the DNA code >from my mother. That there would
be no evidence of my father's DNA.

However, on a recent TV program, a girl born through the IVF program
(her mother being the recipient of male donor sperm) traced her
father through a half-brother - different mother, but same father.
This was proven conclusively through a DNA test.

How would this be possible if the DNA line is only perpetuated from
mother to daughter, father to son.

I would appreciate information about this - even advice on books to
read.

Sincerely

Danielle James
daniandw@chariot.net.au

[Moderator's Note: You may want to check the resources cited at
the bottom of the webpage at http://www.ftdna.com/dna101.html ]


COHNs of Krotoszyn & Berlin #rabbinic

David Behrendt <dkbehr@...>
 

Greetings.

My name is David Behrendt. I have a practical genealogical inquiry
that I'm hoping someone might help me with.

I am a "Kohen" (priest) who, because I decided to look into/verify
my lineage, have cast my status as a Kohen in doubt, and I have been
living in "Kohen limbo" for some time. The only way to resolve the
issue is if I can come up with one more piece of evidence. And that
is where I am in need of assistance.

I need to locate a record of a paternal relative that explicitly
identifies the person as a priest (e.g. says "ha'Kohen"). The best
bets would probably be:

1. Birth/Bris records (Jewish communal)
2. Marriage records (Ketubah)
3. Headstones (depicting the priestly "hands")
4. Relatives (identifying new people in my family tree)

My family name (father's side) is COHN. The COHNs lived in/near the
town of Krotoszyn (Krotoschin) in Posen, at least as far back as my
gr. gr. grandfather. Some time before 1894, my gr. grandfather
moved to Berlin. This was the birthplace of my grandfather and my
father.

Here is what I have as far as names, events, and approximate
dates/locations.

Peter COHN (my father); b. April 20, 1927, Berlin.
Esther COHN (aunt/Peter's sister); b. December 24, 1920, Berlin.
Berthold Friedrich COHN (grandfather); b. June 20, 1894, Berlin.
Erna COHN (grandmother, nee Unger); m. 1919-1920, Berlin; d. ~1933,
Berlin.
Hans COHN (great uncle/Berthold's brother); b. ~1896-1900, Berlin;
d. WW1 German Army.
Max/Mannheim COHN (gr. grandfather); b. March 25, 1859, Krotoszyn;
d. around/before 1930, Berlin.
Ida COHN (gr. grandmother, nee Danziger) m. August 1, 1893 Berlin
or Krotoszyn; d. ~1939-43, Berlin.
Mathias COHN (gr. gr. grandfather); b. ~1827-37, Krotoszyn; d. date
unknown, Krotoszyn or Berlin
Johanna COHN (gr. gr. grandmother, nee Auerbach); m. ~1848-58,
Krotoszyn or Berlin; d. unknown date, Berlin or Krotoszyn.

I have been through the JewishGen and JRI-Poland archives with
little success. If anyone would like to lend some assistance or
advice, I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks so much,
David Behrendt


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic COHNs of Krotoszyn & Berlin #rabbinic

David Behrendt <dkbehr@...>
 

Greetings.

My name is David Behrendt. I have a practical genealogical inquiry
that I'm hoping someone might help me with.

I am a "Kohen" (priest) who, because I decided to look into/verify
my lineage, have cast my status as a Kohen in doubt, and I have been
living in "Kohen limbo" for some time. The only way to resolve the
issue is if I can come up with one more piece of evidence. And that
is where I am in need of assistance.

I need to locate a record of a paternal relative that explicitly
identifies the person as a priest (e.g. says "ha'Kohen"). The best
bets would probably be:

1. Birth/Bris records (Jewish communal)
2. Marriage records (Ketubah)
3. Headstones (depicting the priestly "hands")
4. Relatives (identifying new people in my family tree)

My family name (father's side) is COHN. The COHNs lived in/near the
town of Krotoszyn (Krotoschin) in Posen, at least as far back as my
gr. gr. grandfather. Some time before 1894, my gr. grandfather
moved to Berlin. This was the birthplace of my grandfather and my
father.

Here is what I have as far as names, events, and approximate
dates/locations.

Peter COHN (my father); b. April 20, 1927, Berlin.
Esther COHN (aunt/Peter's sister); b. December 24, 1920, Berlin.
Berthold Friedrich COHN (grandfather); b. June 20, 1894, Berlin.
Erna COHN (grandmother, nee Unger); m. 1919-1920, Berlin; d. ~1933,
Berlin.
Hans COHN (great uncle/Berthold's brother); b. ~1896-1900, Berlin;
d. WW1 German Army.
Max/Mannheim COHN (gr. grandfather); b. March 25, 1859, Krotoszyn;
d. around/before 1930, Berlin.
Ida COHN (gr. grandmother, nee Danziger) m. August 1, 1893 Berlin
or Krotoszyn; d. ~1939-43, Berlin.
Mathias COHN (gr. gr. grandfather); b. ~1827-37, Krotoszyn; d. date
unknown, Krotoszyn or Berlin
Johanna COHN (gr. gr. grandmother, nee Auerbach); m. ~1848-58,
Krotoszyn or Berlin; d. unknown date, Berlin or Krotoszyn.

I have been through the JewishGen and JRI-Poland archives with
little success. If anyone would like to lend some assistance or
advice, I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks so much,
David Behrendt


Surnmes POLACSEK, BRAND, SCHAFFER #general

norma schaffer <schaffernorma@...>
 

My maternal g-father Otto POLACSEK was born in
Weener Germany-he moved to Vienna Austria but I don't know
when. My maternal g-mother, Helene POLACSEK nee BRAND
was born in Krakow Poland. Otto left Vienna to avoid
the nazis who as my mother told me, were just
"taking the men". I am not familiar with the timetable. My
mother Edith SCHAFFER nee POLACSEK along with her
mother Helene BRAND POLACSEK left for Belgium after
Otto-I do not know how much time elapsed between my
g-father and my mother and her mother leaving Vienna
for Belgium. Otto POLACSEK was in Holland--Westerbork
is where he was before being transported to
Auschwitz.
My g-mother Helene BRAND POLACSEK was arrested in
Belgium-do not know te city, but my mother
was watching a movie a a local cinema, se came home to discover
her mother had been taken by the nazis. My mother was
saved by a Cathoic family-Geadin(spelling) living
with them for several years until she was arrested (local
nazi "snitch") in 1944 and sent to Auschwitz.

Norma Schaffer Los Angeles Ca USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Surnmes POLACSEK, BRAND, SCHAFFER #general

norma schaffer <schaffernorma@...>
 

My maternal g-father Otto POLACSEK was born in
Weener Germany-he moved to Vienna Austria but I don't know
when. My maternal g-mother, Helene POLACSEK nee BRAND
was born in Krakow Poland. Otto left Vienna to avoid
the nazis who as my mother told me, were just
"taking the men". I am not familiar with the timetable. My
mother Edith SCHAFFER nee POLACSEK along with her
mother Helene BRAND POLACSEK left for Belgium after
Otto-I do not know how much time elapsed between my
g-father and my mother and her mother leaving Vienna
for Belgium. Otto POLACSEK was in Holland--Westerbork
is where he was before being transported to
Auschwitz.
My g-mother Helene BRAND POLACSEK was arrested in
Belgium-do not know te city, but my mother
was watching a movie a a local cinema, se came home to discover
her mother had been taken by the nazis. My mother was
saved by a Cathoic family-Geadin(spelling) living
with them for several years until she was arrested (local
nazi "snitch") in 1944 and sent to Auschwitz.

Norma Schaffer Los Angeles Ca USA


VM7062-3: marriage of Bayla Kurczak #general

Catherine Youngren
 

For the last nine years I have been trying to find information on my great
great Aunt Bayla Kurczak - the only one of six brothers and sisters who
remained in Poland while the others emigrated to the UK. All I knew was that
she married a Zyskind Klinkowstein.
This July, while doing a regular check of the JRI-Poland website, I was
delighted to find the index for her marriage in the town of Bielsk had
recently been posted. I just received a copy of the register entry on Friday
from the Plock Archives. It is in Cyrillic Russian and I am unable to
translate it.
It is on two pages, which I have posted as Viewmate VM7062 and VM7063. If
someone could give me a complete translation of the document I would be most
grateful, as I am sure it will contain references to other members of my
family.
Thanking you in advance.

Catherine Youngren
Vancouver, Canada


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen VM7062-3: marriage of Bayla Kurczak #general

Catherine Youngren
 

For the last nine years I have been trying to find information on my great
great Aunt Bayla Kurczak - the only one of six brothers and sisters who
remained in Poland while the others emigrated to the UK. All I knew was that
she married a Zyskind Klinkowstein.
This July, while doing a regular check of the JRI-Poland website, I was
delighted to find the index for her marriage in the town of Bielsk had
recently been posted. I just received a copy of the register entry on Friday
from the Plock Archives. It is in Cyrillic Russian and I am unable to
translate it.
It is on two pages, which I have posted as Viewmate VM7062 and VM7063. If
someone could give me a complete translation of the document I would be most
grateful, as I am sure it will contain references to other members of my
family.
Thanking you in advance.

Catherine Youngren
Vancouver, Canada


News about the Lodz Area Research Group (LARG) #general

Roni S. Liebowitz
 

I am so pleased to announce that Joe Ross agreed to serve as
Town Leader for Lodz at Jewish Record Indexing-Poland as well
as Lodz Area Research Group's Town Contact person for Lodz. Joe
has been assuming much of the responsibilities of Town Leader for
Lodz over the past several years. Now he will be official! As a new
Archive Coordinator, I am very grateful to be working with Joe. In
addition to his duties as Town Leader for Lodz, he wears the
hat as LARG's Town Contact for Szczercow, Zgierz, and just agreed to
be the contact for Lodz.

Welcome to another volunteer, Leon Weintraub of Sweden, who has
agreed to serve as the Town Contact person for Dobra. Leon has been
working hard over the past several years to create a Memorial for the
Jews of Dobra which is near Turek. The Municipality of Dobra expressed
a desire to establish such a monument commemorating the Jewish history
in Dobra. After long negotiations, Leon was finally able to sign an
agreement October 3, that enables the memorial to be constructed. It will
be erected on part of the site of the former Dobra synagogue,
which was destroyed by the Nazis. To learn more about this
project, contact Leon at Leonweintraub@comhem.se.

The Town Contacts for the towns in LARG can be found at:
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Lodz/LARGtown.htm We have
several "orphan" towns that need volunteers as contacts.
Please consider volunteering for this position. The Town Contact
is most often someone with a personal interest in the town who
can be contacted to answer questions about what is available on
JewishGen's website for the town, how to research the town, and
share information about the town especially with beginning researchers.

All the best,
Roni

(Mrs. Roni Seibel Liebowitz)
Scarsdale, New York
Lodz ShtetLinks http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Lodz/index.htm
Lodz Area Research Group (LARG)
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Lodz/LARG.htm
Jewish Records Indexing- Poland, http://www.jri-Poland.org/
26th IAJGS International Conference on Jewish Genealogy
http://www.jgsny2006.org/


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen News about the Lodz Area Research Group (LARG) #general

Roni S. Liebowitz
 

I am so pleased to announce that Joe Ross agreed to serve as
Town Leader for Lodz at Jewish Record Indexing-Poland as well
as Lodz Area Research Group's Town Contact person for Lodz. Joe
has been assuming much of the responsibilities of Town Leader for
Lodz over the past several years. Now he will be official! As a new
Archive Coordinator, I am very grateful to be working with Joe. In
addition to his duties as Town Leader for Lodz, he wears the
hat as LARG's Town Contact for Szczercow, Zgierz, and just agreed to
be the contact for Lodz.

Welcome to another volunteer, Leon Weintraub of Sweden, who has
agreed to serve as the Town Contact person for Dobra. Leon has been
working hard over the past several years to create a Memorial for the
Jews of Dobra which is near Turek. The Municipality of Dobra expressed
a desire to establish such a monument commemorating the Jewish history
in Dobra. After long negotiations, Leon was finally able to sign an
agreement October 3, that enables the memorial to be constructed. It will
be erected on part of the site of the former Dobra synagogue,
which was destroyed by the Nazis. To learn more about this
project, contact Leon at Leonweintraub@comhem.se.

The Town Contacts for the towns in LARG can be found at:
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Lodz/LARGtown.htm We have
several "orphan" towns that need volunteers as contacts.
Please consider volunteering for this position. The Town Contact
is most often someone with a personal interest in the town who
can be contacted to answer questions about what is available on
JewishGen's website for the town, how to research the town, and
share information about the town especially with beginning researchers.

All the best,
Roni

(Mrs. Roni Seibel Liebowitz)
Scarsdale, New York
Lodz ShtetLinks http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Lodz/index.htm
Lodz Area Research Group (LARG)
http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Lodz/LARG.htm
Jewish Records Indexing- Poland, http://www.jri-Poland.org/
26th IAJGS International Conference on Jewish Genealogy
http://www.jgsny2006.org/


NEWMAN #general

Pam Kosky <p.kosky@...>
 

Hi
Does anyone have the family surname Newman who arrived in England in
Liverpool in the 19th century?
Liz.

MODERATOR NOTE: You may also find it useful to check the information
available via the JCR-UK website and post a message to that SIG.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen NEWMAN #general

Pam Kosky <p.kosky@...>
 

Hi
Does anyone have the family surname Newman who arrived in England in
Liverpool in the 19th century?
Liz.

MODERATOR NOTE: You may also find it useful to check the information
available via the JCR-UK website and post a message to that SIG.