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Yizkor Book Project Report-October and November 2006 #courland #latvia

Joyce Field
 

This is a combined report for October and November 2006. In October
(a short month as Lance Ackerfeld was away for two weeks) we added
one book, one new entry, and five updates. For November, we added
eight new books, seven new entries, and 14 updates.

New books:

-Kobryn, Belarus
-Lambrivka, Ukraine
-Pinkas Hakehillot, Netherlands (table of contents is now online)
-Pinkas HaKehillot, Libya and Tunisia (table of contents is now online)
-Pinkas HaKehillot, Germany , volumes I, II,and III (all tables of
contents are now online)
-Sala's Gift by Ann Kirschner:
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/salas_gift/salas_gift.html. This book
is about the secret collection of letters her mother received in
Nazi labor camps, then kept hidden for nearly 50 years. The book was
published in early November and the author and publisher have
generously allowed JewishGen to put excerpts online. Photographs will
be added soon.
-The Holocaust in 21 Lithuanian Towns-
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/lithuania3/lithuania3.html

New entries:

-Bielsk Podlaski, Poland: Pinkas HaKehillot Polin, vol. VIII
-Dukla, Poland: Pinkas HaKehillot Polin, vol. III
-Kosice, Slovakia: Pinkas HaKehillot Slovakia
-Osieciny, Poland: Pinkas HaKehillot, Polin, vol. IV
-Przeclaw, Poland: Pinkas HaKehillot. vol. III
-Ryglice, Poland: Pinkas HaKehillot, vol. III
-Vac, Hungary: Pinkas HaKehillot Hungary
-Zborow, Poland: Pinkas HaKehillot Polin, vol. II

Updates:

-Borszczow, Ukraine
-Brest, Lithuania
-Bukowina: History of the Jews in Bukowina, volume II, p. 176: "The
Youth Group, Betar"
-Dabrowa Gornicza,Poland
-Dusetos, Lithuania (updated in October and November)
-Holocaust in Belarus (Updated in October and November)
-Jonava, Lithuania
-Kamen Kashirskiy, Ukraine
-Kobryn, Belar
-Lanovtsy, Ukraine
-Oradea, Romania
-Pinkas HaKehillot Polin, vol. V, Foreward, p. IX
-Piotrkow Trybunalski, Poland
-Rozhnyatov, Ukraine
-Ryki, Poland (Polish)
-Slutsk, Belarus
-Zyradow, Poland

All additions have been flagged at the alphabetical index at
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/translations.html. You can check
whether a yizkor book for your town has been published at the Yizkor
Book Database at http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/database.html. You
can check whether there is an article on your town in a Pinkas
HaKehillot volume by consulting the table of contents for the
appropriate volume at the Index page at
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/translations.html under Regions. The
tables of contents for all 19 volumes of the Pinkasim have now been
translated and are online. Please consider translating an article
about your ancestral town (all are in Hebrew) or financially
supporting a translation. Contact me privately to discuss the
options. In December we will have online a good number of
translations >from the Pinkas HaKehillot Germany, due to the response
to the recent addition of the tables of contents >from these volumes.

Many thanks to the donors of translations and the donors of money to
the Yizkor Book Projects.

Joyce Field
JewishGen VP, Data Acquisition


Liverpool Records #unitedkingdom

Quest, Rebecca A <r.quest@...>
 

Hi,

I was looking for the searchable databases that used to be available via
the Liverpool Jewish Genealogical Service at www.ljgs.org. Does anybody
know if they are still accessible and if so where?

Thanks very much

MODERATOR NOTE: Please would contributors remember to sign their messages


Additions to Holocaust Database #southafrica

Joyce Field
 

We are pleased to announce additions to the Holocaust Database at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Holocaust/. With this update,
there are now 1,141,316 records in this collection of databases.

-The Dachau Concentration Camp records have been updated again. This
database now contains 157,960 records. The data entry concluded some
time ago, but the validation of the data entry by Peter Lande of
USHMM is ongoing. The end is near, however.

-The Lublin Ghetto Listings, April 1942, contains 4,587 records.

-World Jewish Congress Collection contains 72,899 records of
Holocaust survivors. The index of files at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Holocaust/0131_index.html should
be accessed to understand the contents of the database.

Our thanks to all the persons involved in preparing these databases
for their online presentation. Their names appear in the
introductions to the individual databases.

Joyce Field
JewishGen VP, Data Acquisition


Yizkor Book Project Report-October and November 2006 #southafrica

Joyce Field
 

This is a combined report for October and November 2006. In October
(a short month as Lance Ackerfeld was away for two weeks) we added
one book, one new entry, and five updates. For November, we added
eight new books, seven new entries, and 14 updates.

New books:

-Kobryn, Belarus
-Lambrivka, Ukraine
-Pinkas Hakehillot, Netherlands (table of contents is now online)
-Pinkas HaKehillot, Libya and Tunisia (table of contents is now online)
-Pinkas HaKehillot, Germany , volumes I, II,and III (all tables of
contents are now online)
-Sala's Gift by Ann Kirschner:
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/salas_gift/salas_gift.html. This book
is about the secret collection of letters her mother received in
Nazi labor camps, then kept hidden for nearly 50 years. The book was
published in early November and the author and publisher have
generously allowed JewishGen to put excerpts online. Photographs will
be added soon.
-The Holocaust in 21 Lithuanian Towns-
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/lithuania3/lithuania3.html

New entries:

-Bielsk Podlaski, Poland: Pinkas HaKehillot Polin, vol. VIII
-Dukla, Poland: Pinkas HaKehillot Polin, vol. III
-Kosice, Slovakia: Pinkas HaKehillot Slovakia
-Osieciny, Poland: Pinkas HaKehillot, Polin, vol. IV
-Przeclaw, Poland: Pinkas HaKehillot. vol. III
-Ryglice, Poland: Pinkas HaKehillot, vol. III
-Vac, Hungary: Pinkas HaKehillot Hungary
-Zborow, Poland: Pinkas HaKehillot Polin, vol. II

Updates:

-Borszczow, Ukraine
-Brest, Lithuania
-Bukowina: History of the Jews in Bukowina, volume II, p. 176: "The
Youth Group, Betar"
-Dabrowa Gornicza,Poland
-Dusetos, Lithuania (updated in October and November)
-Holocaust in Belarus (Updated in October and November)
-Jonava, Lithuania
-Kamen Kashirskiy, Ukraine
-Kobryn, Belar
-Lanovtsy, Ukraine
-Oradea, Romania
-Pinkas HaKehillot Polin, vol. V, Foreward, p. IX
-Piotrkow Trybunalski, Poland
-Rozhnyatov, Ukraine
-Ryki, Poland (Polish)
-Slutsk, Belarus
-Zyradow, Poland

All additions have been flagged at the alphabetical index at
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/translations.html. You can check
whether a yizkor book for your town has been published at the Yizkor
Book Database at http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/database.html. You
can check whether there is an article on your town in a Pinkas
HaKehillot volume by consulting the table of contents for the
appropriate volume at the Index page at
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/translations.html under Regions. The
tables of contents for all 19 volumes of the Pinkasim have now been
translated and are online. Please consider translating an article
about your ancestral town (all are in Hebrew) or financially
supporting a translation. Contact me privately to discuss the
options. In December we will have online a good number of
translations >from the Pinkas HaKehillot Germany, due to the response
to the recent addition of the tables of contents >from these volumes.

Many thanks to the donors of translations and the donors of money to
the Yizkor Book Projects.

Joyce Field
JewishGen VP, Data Acquisition


Courland SIG #Courland #Latvia Yizkor Book Project Report-October and November 2006 #courland #latvia

Joyce Field
 

This is a combined report for October and November 2006. In October
(a short month as Lance Ackerfeld was away for two weeks) we added
one book, one new entry, and five updates. For November, we added
eight new books, seven new entries, and 14 updates.

New books:

-Kobryn, Belarus
-Lambrivka, Ukraine
-Pinkas Hakehillot, Netherlands (table of contents is now online)
-Pinkas HaKehillot, Libya and Tunisia (table of contents is now online)
-Pinkas HaKehillot, Germany , volumes I, II,and III (all tables of
contents are now online)
-Sala's Gift by Ann Kirschner:
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/salas_gift/salas_gift.html. This book
is about the secret collection of letters her mother received in
Nazi labor camps, then kept hidden for nearly 50 years. The book was
published in early November and the author and publisher have
generously allowed JewishGen to put excerpts online. Photographs will
be added soon.
-The Holocaust in 21 Lithuanian Towns-
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/lithuania3/lithuania3.html

New entries:

-Bielsk Podlaski, Poland: Pinkas HaKehillot Polin, vol. VIII
-Dukla, Poland: Pinkas HaKehillot Polin, vol. III
-Kosice, Slovakia: Pinkas HaKehillot Slovakia
-Osieciny, Poland: Pinkas HaKehillot, Polin, vol. IV
-Przeclaw, Poland: Pinkas HaKehillot. vol. III
-Ryglice, Poland: Pinkas HaKehillot, vol. III
-Vac, Hungary: Pinkas HaKehillot Hungary
-Zborow, Poland: Pinkas HaKehillot Polin, vol. II

Updates:

-Borszczow, Ukraine
-Brest, Lithuania
-Bukowina: History of the Jews in Bukowina, volume II, p. 176: "The
Youth Group, Betar"
-Dabrowa Gornicza,Poland
-Dusetos, Lithuania (updated in October and November)
-Holocaust in Belarus (Updated in October and November)
-Jonava, Lithuania
-Kamen Kashirskiy, Ukraine
-Kobryn, Belar
-Lanovtsy, Ukraine
-Oradea, Romania
-Pinkas HaKehillot Polin, vol. V, Foreward, p. IX
-Piotrkow Trybunalski, Poland
-Rozhnyatov, Ukraine
-Ryki, Poland (Polish)
-Slutsk, Belarus
-Zyradow, Poland

All additions have been flagged at the alphabetical index at
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/translations.html. You can check
whether a yizkor book for your town has been published at the Yizkor
Book Database at http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/database.html. You
can check whether there is an article on your town in a Pinkas
HaKehillot volume by consulting the table of contents for the
appropriate volume at the Index page at
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/translations.html under Regions. The
tables of contents for all 19 volumes of the Pinkasim have now been
translated and are online. Please consider translating an article
about your ancestral town (all are in Hebrew) or financially
supporting a translation. Contact me privately to discuss the
options. In December we will have online a good number of
translations >from the Pinkas HaKehillot Germany, due to the response
to the recent addition of the tables of contents >from these volumes.

Many thanks to the donors of translations and the donors of money to
the Yizkor Book Projects.

Joyce Field
JewishGen VP, Data Acquisition


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Liverpool Records #unitedkingdom

Quest, Rebecca A <r.quest@...>
 

Hi,

I was looking for the searchable databases that used to be available via
the Liverpool Jewish Genealogical Service at www.ljgs.org. Does anybody
know if they are still accessible and if so where?

Thanks very much

MODERATOR NOTE: Please would contributors remember to sign their messages


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Additions to Holocaust Database #southafrica

Joyce Field
 

We are pleased to announce additions to the Holocaust Database at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Holocaust/. With this update,
there are now 1,141,316 records in this collection of databases.

-The Dachau Concentration Camp records have been updated again. This
database now contains 157,960 records. The data entry concluded some
time ago, but the validation of the data entry by Peter Lande of
USHMM is ongoing. The end is near, however.

-The Lublin Ghetto Listings, April 1942, contains 4,587 records.

-World Jewish Congress Collection contains 72,899 records of
Holocaust survivors. The index of files at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Holocaust/0131_index.html should
be accessed to understand the contents of the database.

Our thanks to all the persons involved in preparing these databases
for their online presentation. Their names appear in the
introductions to the individual databases.

Joyce Field
JewishGen VP, Data Acquisition


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Yizkor Book Project Report-October and November 2006 #southafrica

Joyce Field
 

This is a combined report for October and November 2006. In October
(a short month as Lance Ackerfeld was away for two weeks) we added
one book, one new entry, and five updates. For November, we added
eight new books, seven new entries, and 14 updates.

New books:

-Kobryn, Belarus
-Lambrivka, Ukraine
-Pinkas Hakehillot, Netherlands (table of contents is now online)
-Pinkas HaKehillot, Libya and Tunisia (table of contents is now online)
-Pinkas HaKehillot, Germany , volumes I, II,and III (all tables of
contents are now online)
-Sala's Gift by Ann Kirschner:
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/salas_gift/salas_gift.html. This book
is about the secret collection of letters her mother received in
Nazi labor camps, then kept hidden for nearly 50 years. The book was
published in early November and the author and publisher have
generously allowed JewishGen to put excerpts online. Photographs will
be added soon.
-The Holocaust in 21 Lithuanian Towns-
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/lithuania3/lithuania3.html

New entries:

-Bielsk Podlaski, Poland: Pinkas HaKehillot Polin, vol. VIII
-Dukla, Poland: Pinkas HaKehillot Polin, vol. III
-Kosice, Slovakia: Pinkas HaKehillot Slovakia
-Osieciny, Poland: Pinkas HaKehillot, Polin, vol. IV
-Przeclaw, Poland: Pinkas HaKehillot. vol. III
-Ryglice, Poland: Pinkas HaKehillot, vol. III
-Vac, Hungary: Pinkas HaKehillot Hungary
-Zborow, Poland: Pinkas HaKehillot Polin, vol. II

Updates:

-Borszczow, Ukraine
-Brest, Lithuania
-Bukowina: History of the Jews in Bukowina, volume II, p. 176: "The
Youth Group, Betar"
-Dabrowa Gornicza,Poland
-Dusetos, Lithuania (updated in October and November)
-Holocaust in Belarus (Updated in October and November)
-Jonava, Lithuania
-Kamen Kashirskiy, Ukraine
-Kobryn, Belar
-Lanovtsy, Ukraine
-Oradea, Romania
-Pinkas HaKehillot Polin, vol. V, Foreward, p. IX
-Piotrkow Trybunalski, Poland
-Rozhnyatov, Ukraine
-Ryki, Poland (Polish)
-Slutsk, Belarus
-Zyradow, Poland

All additions have been flagged at the alphabetical index at
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/translations.html. You can check
whether a yizkor book for your town has been published at the Yizkor
Book Database at http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/database.html. You
can check whether there is an article on your town in a Pinkas
HaKehillot volume by consulting the table of contents for the
appropriate volume at the Index page at
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/translations.html under Regions. The
tables of contents for all 19 volumes of the Pinkasim have now been
translated and are online. Please consider translating an article
about your ancestral town (all are in Hebrew) or financially
supporting a translation. Contact me privately to discuss the
options. In December we will have online a good number of
translations >from the Pinkas HaKehillot Germany, due to the response
to the recent addition of the tables of contents >from these volumes.

Many thanks to the donors of translations and the donors of money to
the Yizkor Book Projects.

Joyce Field
JewishGen VP, Data Acquisition


Additions to Holocaust Database #courland #latvia

Joyce Field
 

We are pleased to announce additions to the Holocaust Database at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Holocaust/. With this update,
there are now 1,141,316 records in this collection of databases.

-The Dachau Concentration Camp records have been updated again. This
database now contains 157,960 records. The data entry concluded some
time ago, but the validation of the data entry by Peter Lande of
USHMM is ongoing. The end is near, however.

-The Lublin Ghetto Listings, April 1942, contains 4,587 records.

-World Jewish Congress Collection contains 72,899 records of
Holocaust survivors. The index of files at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Holocaust/0131_index.html should
be accessed to understand the contents of the database.

Our thanks to all the persons involved in preparing these databases
for their online presentation. Their names appear in the
introductions to the individual databases.

Joyce Field
JewishGen VP, Data Acquisition


Courland SIG #Courland #Latvia Additions to Holocaust Database #latvia #courland

Joyce Field
 

We are pleased to announce additions to the Holocaust Database at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Holocaust/. With this update,
there are now 1,141,316 records in this collection of databases.

-The Dachau Concentration Camp records have been updated again. This
database now contains 157,960 records. The data entry concluded some
time ago, but the validation of the data entry by Peter Lande of
USHMM is ongoing. The end is near, however.

-The Lublin Ghetto Listings, April 1942, contains 4,587 records.

-World Jewish Congress Collection contains 72,899 records of
Holocaust survivors. The index of files at
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Holocaust/0131_index.html should
be accessed to understand the contents of the database.

Our thanks to all the persons involved in preparing these databases
for their online presentation. Their names appear in the
introductions to the individual databases.

Joyce Field
JewishGen VP, Data Acquisition


Re: LOEBL #france

Eve Line Blum <eve.line.blum@...>
 

There are 5 LOEBL in the current French telephone directory, but none
of them living in Paris. Four of them are living in Alsace. I'll send
you the addresses in a private mail.

--
Eve Line Blum-Cherchevsky
Besancon (France)
and also
Cercle de Genealogie Juive (International JGS in Paris)
http://www.genealoj.org
---------------------

At 13:47 -0800 30/11/06, Juan Carlos Emden wrote:
I am looking to find descendants of the LOEBL family previously living
9 rue de l' Echelle in Paris.

Juan Carlos EMDEN in Valparaiso, Chile


French SIG #France Re: LOEBL #france

Eve Line Blum <eve.line.blum@...>
 

There are 5 LOEBL in the current French telephone directory, but none
of them living in Paris. Four of them are living in Alsace. I'll send
you the addresses in a private mail.

--
Eve Line Blum-Cherchevsky
Besancon (France)
and also
Cercle de Genealogie Juive (International JGS in Paris)
http://www.genealoj.org
---------------------

At 13:47 -0800 30/11/06, Juan Carlos Emden wrote:
I am looking to find descendants of the LOEBL family previously living
9 rue de l' Echelle in Paris.

Juan Carlos EMDEN in Valparaiso, Chile


J, J1, and J2 #dna

CherylSimani <cherylsimani@...>
 

Would anyone like to comment on a few questions:

1) Where do you stand on the controversy concerning which is older,
J1 or J2?

2) Please express in number-of-years the estimated time span
required for going >from J to J1 and/or J2. Usually data is given in
thousands and tens of thousands of years.

3) Could the time span be much shorter? For instance:
Abraham = J, Cohenim = J1, Ysraelim = J2. (Just a thought)

Cheryl Simani


DNA Research #DNA J, J1, and J2 #dna

CherylSimani <cherylsimani@...>
 

Would anyone like to comment on a few questions:

1) Where do you stand on the controversy concerning which is older,
J1 or J2?

2) Please express in number-of-years the estimated time span
required for going >from J to J1 and/or J2. Usually data is given in
thousands and tens of thousands of years.

3) Could the time span be much shorter? For instance:
Abraham = J, Cohenim = J1, Ysraelim = J2. (Just a thought)

Cheryl Simani


Relations among J1, J1*, and J* [was: Kohen gene questions] #dna

Bill Yoffee <kidsbks@...>
 

On 2006.11.21, Zalman Lachman <zalman@lachman.net> wrote:

According to Jewish traditional sources, the Kohanim emerged as a
sub-set of the Tribe of Levi. Aaron, the first Kohen was a
great-grandson of Levi and a great-great grandson of Yakov (Jacob).
Moses, Aaron's brother, who must have had similar genes, was a Levi.
My family has a Levite tradition. My DNA and SNP results have raised
some questions in my mind about our relationship to the Kohanim. I
have been determined to be in haplogroup J1 (M267) and all other J
subgroups have been excluded. This I believe makes me J1*, but how
am I related to J*. My genetic pattern compared to the Cohen Modal
Haplogroup (CMH) is as follows:

DSY# 19 388 390 391 392 393
-
CMH 14 16 23 10 l1 12
Me 15 16 25 10 13 12


I have read as much of the relevant literature I have been able to
find, and I have been unable to form any conclusions. I would
appreciate any light or wisdom anyone could shed on this issue.

William M (Bill) Yoffee


DNA Research #DNA Relations among J1, J1*, and J* [was: Kohen gene questions] #dna

Bill Yoffee <kidsbks@...>
 

On 2006.11.21, Zalman Lachman <zalman@lachman.net> wrote:

According to Jewish traditional sources, the Kohanim emerged as a
sub-set of the Tribe of Levi. Aaron, the first Kohen was a
great-grandson of Levi and a great-great grandson of Yakov (Jacob).
Moses, Aaron's brother, who must have had similar genes, was a Levi.
My family has a Levite tradition. My DNA and SNP results have raised
some questions in my mind about our relationship to the Kohanim. I
have been determined to be in haplogroup J1 (M267) and all other J
subgroups have been excluded. This I believe makes me J1*, but how
am I related to J*. My genetic pattern compared to the Cohen Modal
Haplogroup (CMH) is as follows:

DSY# 19 388 390 391 392 393
-
CMH 14 16 23 10 l1 12
Me 15 16 25 10 13 12


I have read as much of the relevant literature I have been able to
find, and I have been unable to form any conclusions. I would
appreciate any light or wisdom anyone could shed on this issue.

William M (Bill) Yoffee


Different surnames for 37Y exact match #dna

Joyce Oshrin <joshrin@...>
 

I have written to the 2 names that had a 37Y exact match to our
families' DNA. Neither has answered me as their surnames are
different and they probably think we are not related.. But that can
happen.

When indexing the records >from my town of Koden, Lublin,
Poland/Russia, I found a lot of surname changes.

1. In the early 1810/22 years when the people finally took a
surname, one family. had a surname ( I'll say it was SEGAL).. A few
years later, the three brothers all had different surnames, ( SEGAL,
KAUFMAN, BITNER - I'm making up these names). That's the names they
permanently kept. If your last name was Kaufman today, you'd get
hits on the Segal name and probably wonder why.

2. Two different women had illegitimate babies. Their fathers came
to the clerk and registered the babies and the father's name. The
fathers in each case were married to other women. The babies were
given their mother's surname.

3. In my case, the ancestry might go back before Jews had surnames.
My farthest ancestor, Mordecai Szeyderman ( 1773-abt 1830) had
Itzek. Itzek changed his surname to Szeynersznayder. There are
Szeydermans in Koden. Are they related? Did Mordecai have brothers
who picked different surnames? Were any of their descendents those
who were picked up by DNA in my brother's DNA match? I'll never know
unless the men with our 37Y match answer me and let me know where
their families originated?

4. The father of one woman came to the clerk, twice in 3 years to
register the birth of child. Each time he gave his daughter's name
and said the name of the father was unknown. The 2 boys were given
her maiden name as she was unmarried. It could be that she was
married to a Christian and the clerk deliberately left off this
information and the name. I have no idea why this was done or
recorded in this manner. Anyone tracing a DNA descendant of these
boys would have problems.

This is just a suggestion why a DNA surname search may not come up
with your surname.

Joyce Oshrin
joshrin@Att.net


DNA Research #DNA Different surnames for 37Y exact match #dna

Joyce Oshrin <joshrin@...>
 

I have written to the 2 names that had a 37Y exact match to our
families' DNA. Neither has answered me as their surnames are
different and they probably think we are not related.. But that can
happen.

When indexing the records >from my town of Koden, Lublin,
Poland/Russia, I found a lot of surname changes.

1. In the early 1810/22 years when the people finally took a
surname, one family. had a surname ( I'll say it was SEGAL).. A few
years later, the three brothers all had different surnames, ( SEGAL,
KAUFMAN, BITNER - I'm making up these names). That's the names they
permanently kept. If your last name was Kaufman today, you'd get
hits on the Segal name and probably wonder why.

2. Two different women had illegitimate babies. Their fathers came
to the clerk and registered the babies and the father's name. The
fathers in each case were married to other women. The babies were
given their mother's surname.

3. In my case, the ancestry might go back before Jews had surnames.
My farthest ancestor, Mordecai Szeyderman ( 1773-abt 1830) had
Itzek. Itzek changed his surname to Szeynersznayder. There are
Szeydermans in Koden. Are they related? Did Mordecai have brothers
who picked different surnames? Were any of their descendents those
who were picked up by DNA in my brother's DNA match? I'll never know
unless the men with our 37Y match answer me and let me know where
their families originated?

4. The father of one woman came to the clerk, twice in 3 years to
register the birth of child. Each time he gave his daughter's name
and said the name of the father was unknown. The 2 boys were given
her maiden name as she was unmarried. It could be that she was
married to a Christian and the clerk deliberately left off this
information and the name. I have no idea why this was done or
recorded in this manner. Anyone tracing a DNA descendant of these
boys would have problems.

This is just a suggestion why a DNA surname search may not come up
with your surname.

Joyce Oshrin
joshrin@Att.net


R' Michel APOTISHKER #rabbinic

Shoshana L. Boublil
 

I am trying to find biographical and geneological information on
R' Michel APOTISHKER (sp?) who was a Talmid Chaver of the Ba'al
HaTanya.

Any information would be welcome, especially his connection with the
SEGAL family tree.

Shoshana L. Boublil

Researching:
KORB; SKAIST; RABIN; RUBNICH; EPSTEIN; SHERESHEVSKY; OSHEROVITZ;
JOFFE; SEGAL; LEVINE; SHAPIRO; BOUBLIL; ARBIB(ARBIV); KISH.


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic R' Michel APOTISHKER #rabbinic

Shoshana L. Boublil
 

I am trying to find biographical and geneological information on
R' Michel APOTISHKER (sp?) who was a Talmid Chaver of the Ba'al
HaTanya.

Any information would be welcome, especially his connection with the
SEGAL family tree.

Shoshana L. Boublil

Researching:
KORB; SKAIST; RABIN; RUBNICH; EPSTEIN; SHERESHEVSKY; OSHEROVITZ;
JOFFE; SEGAL; LEVINE; SHAPIRO; BOUBLIL; ARBIB(ARBIV); KISH.