Date   

Attn Arielle K. Masters (was Re: Galicia/Belarus/Minsk ancestry) #belarus

Jeanne Gold <twig@...>
 

Please contact me directly and let's see if I can then send it to you
again or we can try something different.


Jeanne Gold
Albany, OR, USA
JewishGen ID: 6106
http://www.digging4roots.com/


The Jewish Brigade of WWll #southafrica

Harold Stein <hal2202@...>
 

Per suggestion of Saul Issroff (see below) I am passing
on to the SIG membership my comments to him about my
brief contact in Italy with the Jewish Brigade from
British Mandate Palestine during World War II. If
there are any other WWII veterans out there who also
had some contact with the brigade--or who were members
of the brigade, I hope you will share your memories
with us. The activities of the brigade were important
elements in the eventual establishment of the State of
Israel.
Hal Stein

Dear Harold

Many thanks, why don't you put this on the
discussion
group?

Regards
Saul

Original Message:
-----------------
From: Harold Stein hal2202@sbcglobal.net
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 22:25:53 -0700 (PDT)
To: saul@shaul.homechoice.co.uk
Subject: Fwd: The Jewish Brigade of WWll


Saul: Re your message below: shortly after WWII
ended in May, 1945, my US army unit in Italy was
disbanded and I got myself assigned to the headquarters
company of the Rome Area Command. Our billet was a
small hotel on the main drag near the Fountain of
Trevi (Rough duty!). One day while walking
to my office nearby, I noticed a blue and white flag
with a Star of David flying >from the 2nd story
balcony of a building a block away. I was
naturally surprised and curious so I went into the
building to their office. Turns out it was the
headquarters of the Jewish Brigade, about which I
knew nothing. The personnel there wore British
uniforms and said they were Jews >from Palestine and
their unit had been assigned
to provide support to the British 8th Army in Italy.
I told them I was Jewish and I asked what they would
be doing now that the war was over. They
sort of hemmed and hawed and said they
would be getting ready to return to Palestine. That
was my only contact
with them, and in about a month the flag was gone. (I
felt a sense of wonderment and admiration, seeing that
flag each day on my way to work.)
It wasn't until many years
later did I learn that the Jewish Brigade had four
missions, of which three were kept secret >from the
British. The first, of course, was to assist the
British 8th army in
fighting the Germans. But Ben Gurion and his
cronies, after getting the
British to (reluctantly) give approval for creation
of the brigade, made
clear to the brigade officers that they had three
other vital, but covert
missions. 1) Provide the Jewish troops with
experience in combat strategy
and tactics so they could become the nucleus of a
Jewish army in Palestine
and train others, 2) make contacts with sources in
Europe for purchase of
arms and arrange for their shipment to Palestine and
3) establish a pipeline for bringing Holocaust
survivors >from the displacement camps to Palestine.
I'm going to try and see if I can obtain a copy of
the Norman Lourie film
about the brigade that you cite. Thanks for the
info.
Hal Stein
Sacramento, CA
Subject: SA films at The Steven Spielberg Jewish
Film Archive
From: Saul Issroff
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 14:06:54 +0100

The TELFED (SA Zionist Federation in Israel) online
site
http://www.telfed.org.il/showpage.php?pageid=359>
describes how the The
Steven Spielberg Jewish Film Archive at the Hebrew
University has
completed a major upgrade and expansion of its
“virtual cinema” project
< http://www.spielbergfilmarchive.org.il/kv/index.html>

There are many films of South African interest, and
of the South African
community in Israel. The Jacob Gitlin Library in
Cape Town sent the
Archive all its betamax cassettes now the Archive
has transferred these
to a digital format and they are on its new virtual
cinema site. This
includes films about South Africans in Efrat (1981),
Manof, the building
of Kochav Yair (1980). Blue and White Springboks
(1980s) depicts the
contribution ex South Africans have made to Israeli
sport, Aliyah and
the Health Professions (1988), deals with South
Africans in the health
professions. There are also a few films promoting
South African aliyah
in the 1980s.

Mirror of the Past (c1970) documents the history of
South African Jews
and includes rare footage of the shtetl in Ponevez,
Lithuania. The Torch
Rekindled (1953) highlights the participation of
South African athletes
in the 4th Maccabi Games.


South African Norman Lourie was an important
documentary film maker in
Israel in the 1940s and 1950s. There are 11 of his
movies available
online. including one that documents the Jewish
Brigade in Europe towards
the end of World War II.

Contact details are given on the website.

Saul Issroff


Belarus SIG #Belarus Attn Arielle K. Masters (was Re: Galicia/Belarus/Minsk ancestry) #belarus

Jeanne Gold <twig@...>
 

Please contact me directly and let's see if I can then send it to you
again or we can try something different.


Jeanne Gold
Albany, OR, USA
JewishGen ID: 6106
http://www.digging4roots.com/


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica The Jewish Brigade of WWll #southafrica

Harold Stein <hal2202@...>
 

Per suggestion of Saul Issroff (see below) I am passing
on to the SIG membership my comments to him about my
brief contact in Italy with the Jewish Brigade from
British Mandate Palestine during World War II. If
there are any other WWII veterans out there who also
had some contact with the brigade--or who were members
of the brigade, I hope you will share your memories
with us. The activities of the brigade were important
elements in the eventual establishment of the State of
Israel.
Hal Stein

Dear Harold

Many thanks, why don't you put this on the
discussion
group?

Regards
Saul

Original Message:
-----------------
From: Harold Stein hal2202@sbcglobal.net
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2007 22:25:53 -0700 (PDT)
To: saul@shaul.homechoice.co.uk
Subject: Fwd: The Jewish Brigade of WWll


Saul: Re your message below: shortly after WWII
ended in May, 1945, my US army unit in Italy was
disbanded and I got myself assigned to the headquarters
company of the Rome Area Command. Our billet was a
small hotel on the main drag near the Fountain of
Trevi (Rough duty!). One day while walking
to my office nearby, I noticed a blue and white flag
with a Star of David flying >from the 2nd story
balcony of a building a block away. I was
naturally surprised and curious so I went into the
building to their office. Turns out it was the
headquarters of the Jewish Brigade, about which I
knew nothing. The personnel there wore British
uniforms and said they were Jews >from Palestine and
their unit had been assigned
to provide support to the British 8th Army in Italy.
I told them I was Jewish and I asked what they would
be doing now that the war was over. They
sort of hemmed and hawed and said they
would be getting ready to return to Palestine. That
was my only contact
with them, and in about a month the flag was gone. (I
felt a sense of wonderment and admiration, seeing that
flag each day on my way to work.)
It wasn't until many years
later did I learn that the Jewish Brigade had four
missions, of which three were kept secret >from the
British. The first, of course, was to assist the
British 8th army in
fighting the Germans. But Ben Gurion and his
cronies, after getting the
British to (reluctantly) give approval for creation
of the brigade, made
clear to the brigade officers that they had three
other vital, but covert
missions. 1) Provide the Jewish troops with
experience in combat strategy
and tactics so they could become the nucleus of a
Jewish army in Palestine
and train others, 2) make contacts with sources in
Europe for purchase of
arms and arrange for their shipment to Palestine and
3) establish a pipeline for bringing Holocaust
survivors >from the displacement camps to Palestine.
I'm going to try and see if I can obtain a copy of
the Norman Lourie film
about the brigade that you cite. Thanks for the
info.
Hal Stein
Sacramento, CA
Subject: SA films at The Steven Spielberg Jewish
Film Archive
From: Saul Issroff
Date: Thu, 07 Jun 2007 14:06:54 +0100

The TELFED (SA Zionist Federation in Israel) online
site
http://www.telfed.org.il/showpage.php?pageid=359>
describes how the The
Steven Spielberg Jewish Film Archive at the Hebrew
University has
completed a major upgrade and expansion of its
“virtual cinema” project
< http://www.spielbergfilmarchive.org.il/kv/index.html>

There are many films of South African interest, and
of the South African
community in Israel. The Jacob Gitlin Library in
Cape Town sent the
Archive all its betamax cassettes now the Archive
has transferred these
to a digital format and they are on its new virtual
cinema site. This
includes films about South Africans in Efrat (1981),
Manof, the building
of Kochav Yair (1980). Blue and White Springboks
(1980s) depicts the
contribution ex South Africans have made to Israeli
sport, Aliyah and
the Health Professions (1988), deals with South
Africans in the health
professions. There are also a few films promoting
South African aliyah
in the 1980s.

Mirror of the Past (c1970) documents the history of
South African Jews
and includes rare footage of the shtetl in Ponevez,
Lithuania. The Torch
Rekindled (1953) highlights the participation of
South African athletes
in the 4th Maccabi Games.


South African Norman Lourie was an important
documentary film maker in
Israel in the 1940s and 1950s. There are 11 of his
movies available
online. including one that documents the Jewish
Brigade in Europe towards
the end of World War II.

Contact details are given on the website.

Saul Issroff


Re: Steven Spielberg Jewish film archive #southafrica

Archie Taina <archt2245@...>
 

re: Steven Spielberg Jewish film archive

I use Windows and also could'nt view the movies as well,
--
Archie



On 6/10/07, South Africa SIG digest <safrica@lyris.jewishgen.org> wrote:


----------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: re: Steven Spielberg Jewish film archive
From: Martha LEV-ZION <martha@bgu.ac.il>
Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 16:12:27 +0300

It may be because I use a Mac, but there was no way to get anywhere
near viewing a film on that site.

Martha Lev-Zion
Israel


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Re: Steven Spielberg Jewish film archive #southafrica

Archie Taina <archt2245@...>
 

re: Steven Spielberg Jewish film archive

I use Windows and also could'nt view the movies as well,
--
Archie



On 6/10/07, South Africa SIG digest <safrica@lyris.jewishgen.org> wrote:


----------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: re: Steven Spielberg Jewish film archive
From: Martha LEV-ZION <martha@bgu.ac.il>
Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2007 16:12:27 +0300

It may be because I use a Mac, but there was no way to get anywhere
near viewing a film on that site.

Martha Lev-Zion
Israel


Re: Galicians in Austro-Hungarian army? #galicia

Eleanor Platt QC <axvq70@...>
 

My father-in-law was in the Austro-Hungarian army in the first world
war having been born in 1897 in that part of Austro Hungary which is
Galicia (south of Dolina).

There was an excellent address at the New York Conference in the
1990's by an Austrian researcher (not Jewish) and I regret that I
cannot recall his name, about Jews in the German army in WW1. Hope
this is useful.

Eleanor Lind
London


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Galicians in Austro-Hungarian army? #galicia

Eleanor Platt QC <axvq70@...>
 

My father-in-law was in the Austro-Hungarian army in the first world
war having been born in 1897 in that part of Austro Hungary which is
Galicia (south of Dolina).

There was an excellent address at the New York Conference in the
1990's by an Austrian researcher (not Jewish) and I regret that I
cannot recall his name, about Jews in the German army in WW1. Hope
this is useful.

Eleanor Lind
London


Re: Galicians in the Austro-Hungarian army #galicia

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

First of all, thanks to all who have written to me. I need to
clarify:

1. Here we are not talking about regiments, generals, protocol,
rules, deployment, uniforms, battles, supplies, horses, equipment,
costs, salaries etc. These will be very-well documented in the
Vienna archives. We are talking about individual soldier's records.

2. I have been very successful in finding military records in
Vienna. I received a really enormous dossier on my Viennese
great-uncle [born in the 1860s] including exact measurement of his
short sight, his swimming and cycling abilities, character,
enthusiasm, absence, punctuality, sicknesses etc etc etc, so I know
exactly what these dossiers look like. But I am talking here of
*Viennese*-born family. In about 2004, I also retrieved the data at
no cost.

The reason I have not asked for more records for my enormous
Viennese family [not Galician!] is that shortly after this, the cost
of obtaining records became prohibitive. And they are unlikely to
tell me much, genealogically, I do not know except for
eyesight/sickness details!

3. Cost: it is now very expensive to obtain any data. Even a search
which reveals *nothing* is expensive - probably 60-80 dollars!

4. I have no known Galician forebears, but I have been asked many
times before about "individual" Galician records. I had long
discussions in Vienna at the Kriegsarchiv and *everytime* I have
been told exactly the same thing.

After WW1, when the Habsburg Empire collapsed, according to the
conditions of the peace treaties, the *individual* Galician records
were repatriated. Similarly, the military records of the individual
Bohemian, Moravian and Hungarian soldiers were repatriated. That is
what I was writing about.

Read this re the resultant confusion:

http://iabsi.com/gen/public/military_records_in_upper_hungar.htm

5. There are official annual books [housed at the Kriegsarchiv and
other reference libraries] which contain much information about
individual regiments nand list the names of their officers. I do not
think the ordinary soldiers are listed. These are known as
"Schematismus" (army lists). See
http://www.austro-hungarian-army.co.uk/

6. Vienna records are *not* misfiled. My great-uncle was an ordinary
reservist >from Vienna and his records appeared in a few hours!

It is that these records of other Habsburg nationals are just not
there, except in unusual circumstances. The reason Fay's Polish
records were in Vienna was probably that this man was a high-ranking
officer and perhaps had served in Austria itself, and also won some
medals and awards!

Similarly, Galicians who came to Vienna in WW1 and served there
would probably have their records in Vienna.

But for the vast majority [99%?] of Habsburg Jewish soldiers this
was not the case, so these records will not be in Vienna!

7. Eleanor mentioned a man who lectured at the NY conference. I am
not sure who this was. Christoph Tepperberg is one of the leading
experts on the military archives in Vienna and here is one of his
papers: The Austrian War Archives in Vienna (Kriegsarchiv Wien) and
its Records Pertaining to Personnel. In: East European Genealogical
Society 8 (2000), S. 9-24

Dr Tepperberg is/was? Director of the Kriegsarchiv. He will confirm
what I have written above. I believe the above paper discusses the
records which were repatriated. This is what he wrote on July 4,
2000. See: http://hwk.best.vwh.net/gottscheebb/messages/993.html

Apart >from this, for starting genealogical research in Austrian War
Archives in Wien you have to know place and year of birth of the
person in question, and/or the military unit in which he was on duty.
Without this initial data no research can be started.

8. The Kriegsarchiv, Vienna is indeed one of the largest military
archives in the world. It contains a wealth of information. If you
look at this reference you can see the type of data that can be
retrieved: See Table 2: Size of horses in the Habsburg Military -
and also Fig 2: Size of horses and height of soldiers in the Habsburg
Monarchy [1765- 1805]

http://www.vwl.uni-muenchen.de/ls_komlos/horses.pdf

But if you are looking for the dossier on say Simon Pollak, a
reservist serving in a Lemberg cavalry regiment, you will have no
luck. The size of the horses in this regiment may however have been
documented as well as the cost of their upkeep - and this data may
indeed still be in Vienna!

Celia Male [U.K.]


Re: Steven Spielberg Jewish film archive #southafrica

Beryl. B <balden@...>
 

I have just gone through it - so it is online.
The films are beautiful and very heartwarming.
Why would Mac. not have it?

Beryl Baleson
Israel.
----------------------------------------

From: "Martha LEV-ZION" <martha@bgu.ac.il>
Subject: re:[safrica] Steven Spielberg Jewish film archive


It may be because I use a Mac, but there was no way to get anywhere
near viewing a film on that site.

Martha Lev-Zion
Israel


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Galicians in the Austro-Hungarian army #galicia

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

First of all, thanks to all who have written to me. I need to
clarify:

1. Here we are not talking about regiments, generals, protocol,
rules, deployment, uniforms, battles, supplies, horses, equipment,
costs, salaries etc. These will be very-well documented in the
Vienna archives. We are talking about individual soldier's records.

2. I have been very successful in finding military records in
Vienna. I received a really enormous dossier on my Viennese
great-uncle [born in the 1860s] including exact measurement of his
short sight, his swimming and cycling abilities, character,
enthusiasm, absence, punctuality, sicknesses etc etc etc, so I know
exactly what these dossiers look like. But I am talking here of
*Viennese*-born family. In about 2004, I also retrieved the data at
no cost.

The reason I have not asked for more records for my enormous
Viennese family [not Galician!] is that shortly after this, the cost
of obtaining records became prohibitive. And they are unlikely to
tell me much, genealogically, I do not know except for
eyesight/sickness details!

3. Cost: it is now very expensive to obtain any data. Even a search
which reveals *nothing* is expensive - probably 60-80 dollars!

4. I have no known Galician forebears, but I have been asked many
times before about "individual" Galician records. I had long
discussions in Vienna at the Kriegsarchiv and *everytime* I have
been told exactly the same thing.

After WW1, when the Habsburg Empire collapsed, according to the
conditions of the peace treaties, the *individual* Galician records
were repatriated. Similarly, the military records of the individual
Bohemian, Moravian and Hungarian soldiers were repatriated. That is
what I was writing about.

Read this re the resultant confusion:

http://iabsi.com/gen/public/military_records_in_upper_hungar.htm

5. There are official annual books [housed at the Kriegsarchiv and
other reference libraries] which contain much information about
individual regiments nand list the names of their officers. I do not
think the ordinary soldiers are listed. These are known as
"Schematismus" (army lists). See
http://www.austro-hungarian-army.co.uk/

6. Vienna records are *not* misfiled. My great-uncle was an ordinary
reservist >from Vienna and his records appeared in a few hours!

It is that these records of other Habsburg nationals are just not
there, except in unusual circumstances. The reason Fay's Polish
records were in Vienna was probably that this man was a high-ranking
officer and perhaps had served in Austria itself, and also won some
medals and awards!

Similarly, Galicians who came to Vienna in WW1 and served there
would probably have their records in Vienna.

But for the vast majority [99%?] of Habsburg Jewish soldiers this
was not the case, so these records will not be in Vienna!

7. Eleanor mentioned a man who lectured at the NY conference. I am
not sure who this was. Christoph Tepperberg is one of the leading
experts on the military archives in Vienna and here is one of his
papers: The Austrian War Archives in Vienna (Kriegsarchiv Wien) and
its Records Pertaining to Personnel. In: East European Genealogical
Society 8 (2000), S. 9-24

Dr Tepperberg is/was? Director of the Kriegsarchiv. He will confirm
what I have written above. I believe the above paper discusses the
records which were repatriated. This is what he wrote on July 4,
2000. See: http://hwk.best.vwh.net/gottscheebb/messages/993.html

Apart >from this, for starting genealogical research in Austrian War
Archives in Wien you have to know place and year of birth of the
person in question, and/or the military unit in which he was on duty.
Without this initial data no research can be started.

8. The Kriegsarchiv, Vienna is indeed one of the largest military
archives in the world. It contains a wealth of information. If you
look at this reference you can see the type of data that can be
retrieved: See Table 2: Size of horses in the Habsburg Military -
and also Fig 2: Size of horses and height of soldiers in the Habsburg
Monarchy [1765- 1805]

http://www.vwl.uni-muenchen.de/ls_komlos/horses.pdf

But if you are looking for the dossier on say Simon Pollak, a
reservist serving in a Lemberg cavalry regiment, you will have no
luck. The size of the horses in this regiment may however have been
documented as well as the cost of their upkeep - and this data may
indeed still be in Vienna!

Celia Male [U.K.]


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Re: re:Steven Spielberg Jewish film archive #southafrica

Beryl. B <balden@...>
 

I have just gone through it - so it is online.
The films are beautiful and very heartwarming.
Why would Mac. not have it?

Beryl Baleson
Israel.
----------------------------------------

From: "Martha LEV-ZION" <martha@bgu.ac.il>
Subject: re:[safrica] Steven Spielberg Jewish film archive


It may be because I use a Mac, but there was no way to get anywhere
near viewing a film on that site.

Martha Lev-Zion
Israel


Translate Documents on Viewmate #poland

Chayim Fried
 

Can anyone help me translate these documents that I got >from Beth
Hatefutsoth, they are records >from the town of Ciechanow
Here is the address link
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html

File - VM10099
File - VM10098
file - VM10097
file - VM10096
thank you in advance

Chayim Fried
NY

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


JRI Poland #Poland Translate Documents on Viewmate #poland

Chayim Fried
 

Can anyone help me translate these documents that I got >from Beth
Hatefutsoth, they are records >from the town of Ciechanow
Here is the address link
http://data.jewishgen.org/viewmate/toview.html

File - VM10099
File - VM10098
file - VM10097
file - VM10096
thank you in advance

Chayim Fried
NY

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LitvakSIG Luncheon and Banquet tickets available for SLC2007 conference #lithuania

Roy Ogus
 

I will not be able to attend this year's IAJGS conference in Salt Lake City,
and have a LitvakSIG Luncheon ticket and a Banquet ticket available to
anyone who would like to take these over >from me. Please contact me if
you're interested. Thanks.

Roy Ogus
Palo Alto, California
r_ogus at hotmail.com

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Lithuania SIG #Lithuania LitvakSIG Luncheon and Banquet tickets available for SLC2007 conference #lithuania

Roy Ogus
 

I will not be able to attend this year's IAJGS conference in Salt Lake City,
and have a LitvakSIG Luncheon ticket and a Banquet ticket available to
anyone who would like to take these over >from me. Please contact me if
you're interested. Thanks.

Roy Ogus
Palo Alto, California
r_ogus at hotmail.com

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


Re: Galicians in Austro-Hungarian Army #galicia

Eleanor Platt QC <axvq70@...>
 

About 20 years ago I wrote to the Austrian Embassy in London
requesting information about my father-in-law's medals and career
in the Austrian Army in the first world war. We knew he had been
serving in Italy. They were extremely helpful and produced as much
information as they had.

Eleanor Lind
London


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Galicians in Austro-Hungarian Army #galicia

Eleanor Platt QC <axvq70@...>
 

About 20 years ago I wrote to the Austrian Embassy in London
requesting information about my father-in-law's medals and career
in the Austrian Army in the first world war. We knew he had been
serving in Italy. They were extremely helpful and produced as much
information as they had.

Eleanor Lind
London


Re: Galicians in Austro-Hungarian army? #galicia

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

After much correspondence with Austrian military sources (before the
Internet) and the assistance of a military researcher, I learned
that after the dissolution of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, the
military records of its constituent parts were sent to the
respective countries, i.e., Poland, etc.

Unfortunately, I never was able to locate records for my grandfather
either as an officer or ordinary soldier. However, I do remember
individuals who were able to locate the military files of their
relatives.

There appear to be more resources on the Internet now regarding
military history and records since the time when I was first doing
research. In regard to the Jewish participation in Austro-Hungarian
military affairs, for instance, there were found to be
approximately 10,000 - 20,000 Jews who served between 1859-1866 in
the Habsburg army.

Further, the Joint Army in 1872 had 12,471 Jewish enlisted men in
the reserve/active duty and by 1902 there were 59,784. The rank and
file in comparison declined by 1911 which may be accounted for by
mass emigration to America and other places.

The Austro-Hungarian Army had a one-year volunteer service and when
statistics were first kept in 1897, it was found that there were
1,993 Jewish reserve officers and 680 Jewish reserve military
officials. So, in 1897, this meant that every 5th reserve officer
and every 4th reserve military official was Jewish.

These fascinating statistics and more can be found in "Beyond
Nationalism: a social and political history of the Habsburg Officer
Corps 1848-1918" by Istvan Deak which can be found by Googling it
on the Internet.

Another book which can be Googled on the Internet is entitled:

"Jews and Other Ethnic Groups in a Multi-Ethnic World" edited by
Ezra Mendelsohn, et al. One of the chapters by Erwin A. Schmidl of
the Austrian Army Museum, Vienna, discusses Jews in the
Austro-Hungarian Armed Forces, 1867-1918. It is a fascinating look
at the part played by Jewish soldiers in the Empire.

It is a wonderful asset to now be able to actually read many of
these resources directly on the Internet which are in English.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Search for these books at http://books.google.com/.
Both are offered in "Limited Preview," so all pages are not available
online.


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Galicians in Austro-Hungarian army? #galicia

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

After much correspondence with Austrian military sources (before the
Internet) and the assistance of a military researcher, I learned
that after the dissolution of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, the
military records of its constituent parts were sent to the
respective countries, i.e., Poland, etc.

Unfortunately, I never was able to locate records for my grandfather
either as an officer or ordinary soldier. However, I do remember
individuals who were able to locate the military files of their
relatives.

There appear to be more resources on the Internet now regarding
military history and records since the time when I was first doing
research. In regard to the Jewish participation in Austro-Hungarian
military affairs, for instance, there were found to be
approximately 10,000 - 20,000 Jews who served between 1859-1866 in
the Habsburg army.

Further, the Joint Army in 1872 had 12,471 Jewish enlisted men in
the reserve/active duty and by 1902 there were 59,784. The rank and
file in comparison declined by 1911 which may be accounted for by
mass emigration to America and other places.

The Austro-Hungarian Army had a one-year volunteer service and when
statistics were first kept in 1897, it was found that there were
1,993 Jewish reserve officers and 680 Jewish reserve military
officials. So, in 1897, this meant that every 5th reserve officer
and every 4th reserve military official was Jewish.

These fascinating statistics and more can be found in "Beyond
Nationalism: a social and political history of the Habsburg Officer
Corps 1848-1918" by Istvan Deak which can be found by Googling it
on the Internet.

Another book which can be Googled on the Internet is entitled:

"Jews and Other Ethnic Groups in a Multi-Ethnic World" edited by
Ezra Mendelsohn, et al. One of the chapters by Erwin A. Schmidl of
the Austrian Army Museum, Vienna, discusses Jews in the
Austro-Hungarian Armed Forces, 1867-1918. It is a fascinating look
at the part played by Jewish soldiers in the Empire.

It is a wonderful asset to now be able to actually read many of
these resources directly on the Internet which are in English.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net

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