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Birzai, Lithauania Internal Passport Records
#general
Howard Margol
I have just distributed, to qualified donors, another 456 Internal Passport
records for Birzai. There are additional records to be translated but the necessary funds are lacking. If you have any connection to Birzai, a minimum contribution of $100 would be appreciated so the remaining Birza Internal Passport records can be translated. You would not only receive these records but also the previously translated records and the records translated in the future as well. The information included in these records is simply amazing and can lead to further discoveries. One example is a record for Itsik Eliya TABACHNICK. He lived in Tel Aviv and had British Citizenship. The names of his father and mother are included. His marriage certificate issued in Birzai 14 January, 1932 is in the file. His wife's maiden name, REBYTE, her father's name and her mother's maiden name are also included. After the wedding, Itsik and his new wife went to Tel Aviv to live. Her father's Russian passport is also in the file and that probably contains additional information. Another important example is Yudel PASVALETSK - Born 23 September, 1874. On 27 May, 1938 he committed Suicide. He left a wife and two daughters. The Lithuanian archives contain hundreds of thousands of police and court records. However, they are not indexed and are filed only by date. In order for the archivist to find a police or court record, you must know the location, the event, and the exact date. With the information >from this Internal Passport record, the police report can probably be found as well as an autopsy report on the suicide. An article about the event probably still exists in an old issue of the Birzai newspaper. There may even be a court record if his assets were disposed of. For a full explanation of Internal Passports, and to view the various types of documents contained in the files, go to http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Lithuania/InternalPassports.htm To contribute to this project, please go to: http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/v_projectslist.asp?project_cat=17 Be sure and mention that your donation is for Internal Passports - Birzai. You can use your credit card as the site is secure. Howard Margol Coordinator - Internal Passport Project
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Birzai, Lithauania Internal Passport Records
#general
Howard Margol
I have just distributed, to qualified donors, another 456 Internal Passport
records for Birzai. There are additional records to be translated but the necessary funds are lacking. If you have any connection to Birzai, a minimum contribution of $100 would be appreciated so the remaining Birza Internal Passport records can be translated. You would not only receive these records but also the previously translated records and the records translated in the future as well. The information included in these records is simply amazing and can lead to further discoveries. One example is a record for Itsik Eliya TABACHNICK. He lived in Tel Aviv and had British Citizenship. The names of his father and mother are included. His marriage certificate issued in Birzai 14 January, 1932 is in the file. His wife's maiden name, REBYTE, her father's name and her mother's maiden name are also included. After the wedding, Itsik and his new wife went to Tel Aviv to live. Her father's Russian passport is also in the file and that probably contains additional information. Another important example is Yudel PASVALETSK - Born 23 September, 1874. On 27 May, 1938 he committed Suicide. He left a wife and two daughters. The Lithuanian archives contain hundreds of thousands of police and court records. However, they are not indexed and are filed only by date. In order for the archivist to find a police or court record, you must know the location, the event, and the exact date. With the information >from this Internal Passport record, the police report can probably be found as well as an autopsy report on the suicide. An article about the event probably still exists in an old issue of the Birzai newspaper. There may even be a court record if his assets were disposed of. For a full explanation of Internal Passports, and to view the various types of documents contained in the files, go to http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Lithuania/InternalPassports.htm To contribute to this project, please go to: http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/v_projectslist.asp?project_cat=17 Be sure and mention that your donation is for Internal Passports - Birzai. You can use your credit card as the site is secure. Howard Margol Coordinator - Internal Passport Project
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shtetl
#ukraine
jawdoc63@...
Happy New Year to you all. I found out recently that my GRICHEVSKY/GRITSHEVSKY/GORCHOVSKY is a name derived >from the small town of Gritsev. While there is some information on this shtetl, it is precious little. Does anyone on the site have any common ancestors >from there, or know anything about this small village? Thanks in advance.
David Nelson Grechevsky, Gorsky >from Elisavetgrad Lewin >from Riga Grinberg >from Elisavetgrad MODERATOR'S NOTE: JewishGen offers the JewishGen Family Finder (http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff), which can put you in touch with 39 other researchers for Gritsev. If you haven't done so already, add your family names to the JGFF and you will greatly increase the odds of finding extended family.
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Susana Leistner Bloch
We are pleased to welcome the following webpages to JewishGen
ShtetLinks. We thank the owners and webmasters of these shtetlpages for creating fitting memorials to the Jewish Communities that once lived in those shtetlach and for providing a valuable resource for future generations of their descendants. Chabanivka (Bacsava, Bacovo, Batschive), Ukraine Created by Marshall Katz http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Ukraine.html ~~~ Daugavpils (Dvinsk, Denenburg), Latvia Created by Eilat Gordin Levitan and Kevin Lo http://shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/daugavplis/dvinsk.html ~~~ Domachevo (Domatcheva, Damacava), Belarus Created by Joyce Oshrin http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Domachevo/domachevo.html ~~~ Poroshkovo (Porosko, Poroshkovoye), Ukraine Created by Lynn Saul http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/poroshkovo/index.htm ~~~ Pogrebishche, ( Probishta, Pohrebyszcze), Ukraine Created by Joshua Skarf http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/pogrebishche/Pogrebishche.htm ~~~ Tarnow (Tarna,Tarnuv) (G), Poland Created by Molly Runds http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/tarnow/Tarnow%20Home%20Page.htm ~~~ Zawady (Zawada), Poland Created by Avigdor Ben-Dov and Wayne Frankel http://shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Zawady/ ~~~ Some of our shtetlpages were created by people who are no longer able to maintain them. We thank them for their past efforts and wish them luck on their future endeavors. We are happy to announce that two of these shtetlach were recently "adopted" : Berdichev, Ukraine Shtetlpage adopted by Jorge Spunberg http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/berdichev/berdichev1.html ~~~ L'vove ((L'vovo, Koloniya L'vovo), Ukraine Shtetlpage adopted by Dmitry Abramson http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/lvovo/ ~~~ If you wish to follow their example and create a ShtetLinks webpage for your ancestral shtetl or adopt an exiting "orphaned" shtetlpage please contact us at: < shtetl-help@... > ~~~ GOOD NEWS!! As a result for our appeal for HTML volunteers we now have a team of dedicated people who will help you create a webpage for your ancestral home. Please contact us if you would like help in creating a ShtetLinks webpage. May you and your families have a safe, healthy, and joyous new year! L'shanah tovah tikatevu v'techatemu! Gmar Hatima Tova - May you be inscribed in the Book of Life Susana Leistner Bloch, JewishGen VP, ShtetLinks Barbara Ellman, ShtetLinks Technical Coordinator
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine shtetl
#ukraine
jawdoc63@...
Happy New Year to you all. I found out recently that my GRICHEVSKY/GRITSHEVSKY/GORCHOVSKY is a name derived >from the small town of Gritsev. While there is some information on this shtetl, it is precious little. Does anyone on the site have any common ancestors >from there, or know anything about this small village? Thanks in advance.
David Nelson Grechevsky, Gorsky >from Elisavetgrad Lewin >from Riga Grinberg >from Elisavetgrad MODERATOR'S NOTE: JewishGen offers the JewishGen Family Finder (http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff), which can put you in touch with 39 other researchers for Gritsev. If you haven't done so already, add your family names to the JGFF and you will greatly increase the odds of finding extended family.
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Susana Leistner Bloch
We are pleased to welcome the following webpages to JewishGen
ShtetLinks. We thank the owners and webmasters of these shtetlpages for creating fitting memorials to the Jewish Communities that once lived in those shtetlach and for providing a valuable resource for future generations of their descendants. Chabanivka (Bacsava, Bacovo, Batschive), Ukraine Created by Marshall Katz http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Ukraine.html ~~~ Daugavpils (Dvinsk, Denenburg), Latvia Created by Eilat Gordin Levitan and Kevin Lo http://shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/daugavplis/dvinsk.html ~~~ Domachevo (Domatcheva, Damacava), Belarus Created by Joyce Oshrin http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Domachevo/domachevo.html ~~~ Poroshkovo (Porosko, Poroshkovoye), Ukraine Created by Lynn Saul http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/poroshkovo/index.htm ~~~ Pogrebishche, ( Probishta, Pohrebyszcze), Ukraine Created by Joshua Skarf http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/pogrebishche/Pogrebishche.htm ~~~ Tarnow (Tarna,Tarnuv) (G), Poland Created by Molly Runds http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/tarnow/Tarnow%20Home%20Page.htm ~~~ Zawady (Zawada), Poland Created by Avigdor Ben-Dov and Wayne Frankel http://shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Zawady/ ~~~ Some of our shtetlpages were created by people who are no longer able to maintain them. We thank them for their past efforts and wish them luck on their future endeavors. We are happy to announce that two of these shtetlach were recently "adopted" : Berdichev, Ukraine Shtetlpage adopted by Jorge Spunberg http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/berdichev/berdichev1.html ~~~ L'vove ((L'vovo, Koloniya L'vovo), Ukraine Shtetlpage adopted by Dmitry Abramson http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/lvovo/ ~~~ If you wish to follow their example and create a ShtetLinks webpage for your ancestral shtetl or adopt an exiting "orphaned" shtetlpage please contact us at: < shtetl-help@... > ~~~ GOOD NEWS!! As a result for our appeal for HTML volunteers we now have a team of dedicated people who will help you create a webpage for your ancestral home. Please contact us if you would like help in creating a ShtetLinks webpage. May you and your families have a safe, healthy, and joyous new year! L'shanah tovah tikatevu v'techatemu! Gmar Hatima Tova - May you be inscribed in the Book of Life Susana Leistner Bloch, JewishGen VP, ShtetLinks Barbara Ellman, ShtetLinks Technical Coordinator
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re death CERTIFICATE
#southafrica
DIGITAL PIX (Anne BREST) <digitalphoto@...>
Goeie Naand skatties.
LOUIS and ARLENE ZETLER. Yes, yes, I totally agree with everything you said about the Death "Notice" which is a wonderful and valuable piece of information which is available at 1, Hamilton Street, Pretoria at the National Archives. I was talking though, about the "Home Affairs Dept" in Pretoria, which houses the Death "Certificate" (yes, gives details of death, time, causes etc) and no family information on this document, but these are the documents which were requested I obtain. I have a woman there now, a wonderful contact, and she is going to do her utmost to find them for me, regardless of the ID number being there, or not. Isn't that "lekker"? Wishing all the South African Siggers a beautiful Succos/Succoth Alles van die Beste , almal. (not bad for an "uitlander") Anne Lapedus BREST (ex Dublin, Ireland) Sandton, South Africa RESEARCHING - LAPEDUS and KAHN (Vieksniai, Lithuania). MARCUS and FELDMAN (Ackmene, Lithuania), KLOPMAN/KLAPMAN,(Silmalas, Latvia). SHILLMAN, BENSON, SEIDER (Krustpils, Latvia ], MIRRELSON (Kurshan, Courland, Latvia) , BREST (Bauska, Latvia) , ORKIN (Zagere, Lithuania) CHAVIN and CHEIN (Zagare, Lithuania) GILINSKY (Daugavpils/Dvinsk, Latvia) and GAYER/GAER (near Chelm, Poland)
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Seeking Harry MISKIN
#southafrica
Roni Pelled
Shalom
I'm writing on behalf a friend; hope to help him make progress in his research about his father's cousin. I would appreciate your help in tracing Harry MISKIN, last address 240 Jeppe street Johannesburg South Africa. (50 years ago) Originally >from Poland, who emigrated to the SA >from Shanghai after WWII I have already found the following data Plot R 2627 Surname MISKIN First Names Harry Date of Birth c. 1894 Died Date 18-JAN-1980 Cemetery 'Westpark" Probably his predeceased spouse name Louise (Born BURROWS) Died 1969. I would greatly appreciate any info that would assist me in tracing him Thanks a lot Roni Pelled Israel
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South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica re death CERTIFICATE
#southafrica
DIGITAL PIX (Anne BREST) <digitalphoto@...>
Goeie Naand skatties.
LOUIS and ARLENE ZETLER. Yes, yes, I totally agree with everything you said about the Death "Notice" which is a wonderful and valuable piece of information which is available at 1, Hamilton Street, Pretoria at the National Archives. I was talking though, about the "Home Affairs Dept" in Pretoria, which houses the Death "Certificate" (yes, gives details of death, time, causes etc) and no family information on this document, but these are the documents which were requested I obtain. I have a woman there now, a wonderful contact, and she is going to do her utmost to find them for me, regardless of the ID number being there, or not. Isn't that "lekker"? Wishing all the South African Siggers a beautiful Succos/Succoth Alles van die Beste , almal. (not bad for an "uitlander") Anne Lapedus BREST (ex Dublin, Ireland) Sandton, South Africa RESEARCHING - LAPEDUS and KAHN (Vieksniai, Lithuania). MARCUS and FELDMAN (Ackmene, Lithuania), KLOPMAN/KLAPMAN,(Silmalas, Latvia). SHILLMAN, BENSON, SEIDER (Krustpils, Latvia ], MIRRELSON (Kurshan, Courland, Latvia) , BREST (Bauska, Latvia) , ORKIN (Zagere, Lithuania) CHAVIN and CHEIN (Zagare, Lithuania) GILINSKY (Daugavpils/Dvinsk, Latvia) and GAYER/GAER (near Chelm, Poland)
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South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Seeking Harry MISKIN
#southafrica
Roni Pelled
Shalom
I'm writing on behalf a friend; hope to help him make progress in his research about his father's cousin. I would appreciate your help in tracing Harry MISKIN, last address 240 Jeppe street Johannesburg South Africa. (50 years ago) Originally >from Poland, who emigrated to the SA >from Shanghai after WWII I have already found the following data Plot R 2627 Surname MISKIN First Names Harry Date of Birth c. 1894 Died Date 18-JAN-1980 Cemetery 'Westpark" Probably his predeceased spouse name Louise (Born BURROWS) Died 1969. I would greatly appreciate any info that would assist me in tracing him Thanks a lot Roni Pelled Israel
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Country Communities Vols 2 and 3
#southafrica
Saul Issroff <saul@...>
I have received a small supply of Jewish Life in the Country Communities, vols. 2
and vol 3. These are published by the SA friends of Beth Hatefusot country communities Project, which ahs been going for close on 15 eyars. The books are very heavy but could be couriered in the UK for around £10. However, best to order as follows and collect >from me. I should be at the annual seminar of JGSGB on Oct 26. I have order forms >from the group and can email these (ask me privately, not on this discussion group). This si the procedure they would prefer to follow: Thank you for your email and assistance with our books. We would appreciate it if the following procedure with regard to purchases would be instituted. 1. An order form (which I have attached) is to be completed by the person wishing to purchase the book. 2. Credit card payments are preferred and the completed form should be either scanned and emailed or faxed to our offices - Fax: 011-640-1325; E-mail: museum@... <mailto:museum@...> Once the credit card payment has gone through, we will inform you and the person may receive his/her order 3. If the person prefers to made a direct deposit this is also in order. Once payment is received the book may be collected >from you. Saul Issroff
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South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Country Communities Vols 2 and 3
#southafrica
Saul Issroff <saul@...>
I have received a small supply of Jewish Life in the Country Communities, vols. 2
and vol 3. These are published by the SA friends of Beth Hatefusot country communities Project, which ahs been going for close on 15 eyars. The books are very heavy but could be couriered in the UK for around £10. However, best to order as follows and collect >from me. I should be at the annual seminar of JGSGB on Oct 26. I have order forms >from the group and can email these (ask me privately, not on this discussion group). This si the procedure they would prefer to follow: Thank you for your email and assistance with our books. We would appreciate it if the following procedure with regard to purchases would be instituted. 1. An order form (which I have attached) is to be completed by the person wishing to purchase the book. 2. Credit card payments are preferred and the completed form should be either scanned and emailed or faxed to our offices - Fax: 011-640-1325; E-mail: museum@... <mailto:museum@...> Once the credit card payment has gone through, we will inform you and the person may receive his/her order 3. If the person prefers to made a direct deposit this is also in order. Once payment is received the book may be collected >from you. Saul Issroff
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WEISSBLOOM & ELOVITZ Dynasty
#rabbinic
Ami Elyasaf
I am searching for the missing link between Saul ELOVITZ b. abt. 1850
and R. Pinchas Elimelech ELOVITZ - R. Elimelech of Lyzansk g.son Ami Elyasaf
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Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic WEISSBLOOM & ELOVITZ Dynasty
#rabbinic
Ami Elyasaf
I am searching for the missing link between Saul ELOVITZ b. abt. 1850
and R. Pinchas Elimelech ELOVITZ - R. Elimelech of Lyzansk g.son Ami Elyasaf
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Use of umlaut and other international accents and letters in email to this list
#germany
JewishGen German Research Division Coordinator
Our list system does not recognize some international accent marks
(like the two dots over some vowels in German) and some letters that are not used in USA English. If you use these when you write to this and other JewishGen lists some of your most important words may be garbled. Many readers will be confused and frustrated. ** When you write to GerSIG you must ** remove ** letters with the umlaut accent on a vowel. Replace that accented letter with the same letter with no accent and add an e after it. ** Note the examples below. If you want to be sure that your message can be found by people who search our archive for the names of people or towns in your email ** please ** take the time to write certain words this way: LOWENSTEIN (o umlaut ) / LOEWENSTEIN STRAUS (esszet) / STRAUSS Koln (o umlaut) / Koeln. Your extra effort will insure the maximum success when you use this forum. MOD 1
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German SIG #Germany Use of umlaut and other international accents and letters in email to this list
#germany
JewishGen German Research Division Coordinator
Our list system does not recognize some international accent marks
(like the two dots over some vowels in German) and some letters that are not used in USA English. If you use these when you write to this and other JewishGen lists some of your most important words may be garbled. Many readers will be confused and frustrated. ** When you write to GerSIG you must ** remove ** letters with the umlaut accent on a vowel. Replace that accented letter with the same letter with no accent and add an e after it. ** Note the examples below. If you want to be sure that your message can be found by people who search our archive for the names of people or towns in your email ** please ** take the time to write certain words this way: LOWENSTEIN (o umlaut ) / LOEWENSTEIN STRAUS (esszet) / STRAUSS Koln (o umlaut) / Koeln. Your extra effort will insure the maximum success when you use this forum. MOD 1
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Re: Baden Gestapo List - Thanks!
#germany
Lande
Thanks to all who replied. I have more volunteers than needed. This only
proves two things which I have long known --people read Gersig and they are generous with their offers to help. I remain happy to answer questions regarding particular families in the Baden towns I listed and could check them against various sources available at the USHMM, where I work as a volunteer. Peter Lande Washington, D.C, <pdlande@...>
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German SIG #Germany Re: Baden Gestapo List - Thanks!
#germany
Lande
Thanks to all who replied. I have more volunteers than needed. This only
proves two things which I have long known --people read Gersig and they are generous with their offers to help. I remain happy to answer questions regarding particular families in the Baden towns I listed and could check them against various sources available at the USHMM, where I work as a volunteer. Peter Lande Washington, D.C, <pdlande@...>
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Re: Kristallnacht burials - speculative answer
#austria-czech
Ron Bower <ruebin7@...>
Hi Listers,
I found out only 2 years ago about my Uncle's burial. He was murdered on Kristallnacht in Innsbruck. Actually there is a very interesting website started to commemorate those killed. This is the site http://novemberpogrom1938.at/ I had known that my Uncle died that night, and as my Aunt, Father and Grandmother, who all Lived in Innsbruck at the time, I assumed that my Uncle was buried in the Innsbruck Jewish Cemetery. WE visited there 2 years ago, and had a researcher with me >from the Local University,who was helping me with other matters.AS I could not find Uncle Wilhelm's grave I asked him where he was buried. He said to me" don't you know?", and went on to tell me that the Nazi's took his Body immediately to Munich, was given an autopsy to determine cause of death, and then was cremated. He did not know what had happen to the ashes, but doubt they were ever returned to the family. I know both my Father and Grandmother were both badly beaten up that night, and it was such a sore point , he was loath to speak about it. Three men died that night and in the mid 1990's the authorities in Innsbruck did erect a memorial to those 3 men.... For those interested in reading more about this horrific event. I am currently reading a book "Kristallnachit, ,Prelude to Destruction" , by Martin Gilbert. AS I mentioned to the author, Innsbruck is not mentioned in the book, and there it was as bad as it was anywhere else. Ron Bower Melbourne, Australia
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Re: Routine Burial and Kristallnacht
#austria-czech
Paul King
Celia Male (Routine Burial - Kristallnacht of 11 Oct 2008) asks what I meant
by "a more routine burial procedure" and goes on to state that it was routine for 2 or more family members to be buried in the same plot. I pointed out that the times and the conditions for burial procedure were far from routine immediately following Kristallnacht. Moreover, and I standcorrected, the burial for the murdered Oskar Fischer in his mother's burial plot, reads 2.L. which Celia has affirmed in a personal correspondence and Christoph Libisch has stated in personal correspondence in a more ambiguous form means that the "grave is for two bodies (or that two are buried there)." Now it is crucial to know whether 2.L. means that the plot is for two bodies only or whether 2.L. indicates that there are two bodies enterred at that site and that its burial capacity may well be beyond that number. Family custom and family financial circumstances may also be determining factors in joint burial arrangements. The grandparents of Oskar Fischer were buried together. A daughter and a son of the grandmother, who died within a decade or so of their mother's decease in 1912, were each buried in separate, individual plots. Neither had a spouse. But I would still like to see some additional empirical evidence for Kristallnacht burials before arriving at a judgment of burial procedures in those very dark times. Paul King Jerusalem Paul King
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