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Vital Records in Chernigov - SHAPIRO #general

David Goldman
 

Hello everyone.

I occasionally post this question because it is always
possible that new participants have new insights into this problem. A
number of years ago I researched the existence of vital records of my
SHAPIRO ancestors >from Surazh at the Chernigov archive. For some strange
reason there were no vital records for anyone at all - no birth records, no
death records, no marriage records. Only a few census records. I am
wondering why this could be. Any insights would be valuable!

Thanks,
David Goldman


Re: Searching for long lost relative #general

Bob Pachner <rjpachner@...>
 

I have very recently learned about my birth family, and about a very close
relative whom nobody had any trace of since his birth in New York on March
1, 1955. I know his birthname (first name Mark) which is probably not his
legal name today, since he was very likely adopted. I also know precisely
where he was born in New York.

So far I have been denied access to various records which might help me
trace him, due in part to my own adoption and the NY State laws re: sealed
records. I'm certain that my relative has no idea about any of this, nor
even that they might have another birth relative. And I can tell him the
facts and stories about his birth family.

If anyone with this knowledge was themselves adopted or might know of
someone with this profile (it is definitely the exact birth date) please
contact me privately. Thank you.

Bob Pachner
San Diego, CA

Researching TABACZNIK (Vienna & Moldova), GROSS (Galicia & Vienna)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Vital Records in Chernigov - SHAPIRO #general

David Goldman
 

Hello everyone.

I occasionally post this question because it is always
possible that new participants have new insights into this problem. A
number of years ago I researched the existence of vital records of my
SHAPIRO ancestors >from Surazh at the Chernigov archive. For some strange
reason there were no vital records for anyone at all - no birth records, no
death records, no marriage records. Only a few census records. I am
wondering why this could be. Any insights would be valuable!

Thanks,
David Goldman


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Searching for long lost relative #general

Bob Pachner <rjpachner@...>
 

I have very recently learned about my birth family, and about a very close
relative whom nobody had any trace of since his birth in New York on March
1, 1955. I know his birthname (first name Mark) which is probably not his
legal name today, since he was very likely adopted. I also know precisely
where he was born in New York.

So far I have been denied access to various records which might help me
trace him, due in part to my own adoption and the NY State laws re: sealed
records. I'm certain that my relative has no idea about any of this, nor
even that they might have another birth relative. And I can tell him the
facts and stories about his birth family.

If anyone with this knowledge was themselves adopted or might know of
someone with this profile (it is definitely the exact birth date) please
contact me privately. Thank you.

Bob Pachner
San Diego, CA

Researching TABACZNIK (Vienna & Moldova), GROSS (Galicia & Vienna)


Chaim-Labe BIEDKO (or BIEDAK?) #general

JrRothst@...
 

Would anyone know anything about a Chaim-Labe BIEDKO (or Biedak?) who was
born in Wysokie Mazowieckie, Poland on Jan.15, 1933? His father was Mordko
Biedko (b.Sokoly, Poland, 1896) and his mother was Chane (Bober) Biedko (b.
Wysokie Mazowieckie, Poland, 1898). Maybe there is someone who knows anything
about this family? Please send responses directly to me.

Jerald A. Rothstein #112162
JrRothst@aol.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Chaim-Labe BIEDKO (or BIEDAK?) #general

JrRothst@...
 

Would anyone know anything about a Chaim-Labe BIEDKO (or Biedak?) who was
born in Wysokie Mazowieckie, Poland on Jan.15, 1933? His father was Mordko
Biedko (b.Sokoly, Poland, 1896) and his mother was Chane (Bober) Biedko (b.
Wysokie Mazowieckie, Poland, 1898). Maybe there is someone who knows anything
about this family? Please send responses directly to me.

Jerald A. Rothstein #112162
JrRothst@aol.com


Hollander, Zilbiger & Wulkan family trees #galicia

Ami Elyasaf
 

I gathered all data on Galicia families: Hollander, Zilbiger and
Wulkan >from Yad Vashem, JRI and FTJP and built them in outline
descendant trees.

Whoever is interested and have the information how to continue
merge the trees, is welcome to send me his/her data.
<http://www.geocities DOT com/amielyasaf/galician_families/index.htm>

Ami Elyasaf


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Hollander, Zilbiger & Wulkan family trees #galicia

Ami Elyasaf
 

I gathered all data on Galicia families: Hollander, Zilbiger and
Wulkan >from Yad Vashem, JRI and FTJP and built them in outline
descendant trees.

Whoever is interested and have the information how to continue
merge the trees, is welcome to send me his/her data.
<http://www.geocities DOT com/amielyasaf/galician_families/index.htm>

Ami Elyasaf


From Alsace to Prague ? #austria-czech

Micheline GUTMANN
 

To all who have done interesting answers about the name HECKER:
nobody thought about the possibility of an Alsatian family to go to Prague.
And I know that some did.
For instance, I recently studied the genealogy of the great tragedian
Rachel FELIX and I got her parents' marriage certificate.
A very interesting (not yet published) one which cannot be completely
reliable or proved, but it could be interesting to try to verify something
in Prague.

This origin of this family is in Alsace, upper-Rhine.
In that certificate, it is written that Rachel's maternal grand parents
went to Prague and died there: Alexandre FELIX died in 1818 and his wife
Jeannette SALOMON in 1819.

Micheline GUTMANN, Paris, France


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech From Alsace to Prague ? #austria-czech

Micheline GUTMANN
 

To all who have done interesting answers about the name HECKER:
nobody thought about the possibility of an Alsatian family to go to Prague.
And I know that some did.
For instance, I recently studied the genealogy of the great tragedian
Rachel FELIX and I got her parents' marriage certificate.
A very interesting (not yet published) one which cannot be completely
reliable or proved, but it could be interesting to try to verify something
in Prague.

This origin of this family is in Alsace, upper-Rhine.
In that certificate, it is written that Rachel's maternal grand parents
went to Prague and died there: Alexandre FELIX died in 1818 and his wife
Jeannette SALOMON in 1819.

Micheline GUTMANN, Paris, France


FW: Name HECKER #austria-czech

יוסי <yosi47@...>
 

In the book "The Architecture of Hecker-Yellin(1920-1945"(in Hebrew),I find
Wilhelm Ze'ev)Hecker 1876-1945).He was born in Krakov, moved to Vienna and
then to Hamburg. He learned architecture in Darmstadt.Immigrated to Israel
(Ottoman Empire)in 1913.He died in Jerusalem. He had a wife,Heddi,and a
brother, Max (mordechai)

Ora Kuris

MODERATOR NOTE: Please include your city after your name.


Re: Records of Prag #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Chayim Fried of NY wrote: "Does anyone know where I can see an index of records
in Prag?"

This is a complex and too general a question to answer precisely. As a first
step, please study our own website:

http://www.jewishgen.org/austriaczech/

and read this: "Getting Started With Czech-Jewish Genealogy" - by E. Randol
Schoenberg and Julius Mueller and then continue with this article
"The Jewish Museum of Prague" by Henry Wellisch:
http://www.jewishgen.org/austriaczech/pragmusm.html

On the website you will read about the Familianten records stored in Prague
where there are also many BMD records.

Now we have also have the Prague Konskripce (1850 - 1914) ie Konskriptions
[Melde] Zettel on the internet, but they are only partially scanned:
http://digi.nacr.cz/prihlasky/

The 1793 census of Bohemia has been published and there is a volume on Prague -
Vol V1/1. This would have to be accessed at a library, but few stock it.

It really depends on what you are looking for.

Celia Male [U.K.]


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech FW: Name HECKER #austria-czech

יוסי <yosi47@...>
 

In the book "The Architecture of Hecker-Yellin(1920-1945"(in Hebrew),I find
Wilhelm Ze'ev)Hecker 1876-1945).He was born in Krakov, moved to Vienna and
then to Hamburg. He learned architecture in Darmstadt.Immigrated to Israel
(Ottoman Empire)in 1913.He died in Jerusalem. He had a wife,Heddi,and a
brother, Max (mordechai)

Ora Kuris

MODERATOR NOTE: Please include your city after your name.


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: Records of Prag #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Chayim Fried of NY wrote: "Does anyone know where I can see an index of records
in Prag?"

This is a complex and too general a question to answer precisely. As a first
step, please study our own website:

http://www.jewishgen.org/austriaczech/

and read this: "Getting Started With Czech-Jewish Genealogy" - by E. Randol
Schoenberg and Julius Mueller and then continue with this article
"The Jewish Museum of Prague" by Henry Wellisch:
http://www.jewishgen.org/austriaczech/pragmusm.html

On the website you will read about the Familianten records stored in Prague
where there are also many BMD records.

Now we have also have the Prague Konskripce (1850 - 1914) ie Konskriptions
[Melde] Zettel on the internet, but they are only partially scanned:
http://digi.nacr.cz/prihlasky/

The 1793 census of Bohemia has been published and there is a volume on Prague -
Vol V1/1. This would have to be accessed at a library, but few stock it.

It really depends on what you are looking for.

Celia Male [U.K.]


HECKER in Prague, 1909 -1913 #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

There was a woman nee HECKER living in Prague in the era 1909 - 1913:

http://digi.nacr.cz/prihlasky.

HORNOF Karl [born 1884] married to HORNOF (nee HECKER} Marie - born 1886

Children HORNOF Karl [dob 1910] and HORNOF Blazena [dob 1912]

I do not think they were Jewish. The date of marriage is given on the
Meldezettel 7 Feb. 1909 in Stresovic: http://tinyurl.com/34mfgu

They should be checked-out further.

Celia Male [U.K.]


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech HECKER in Prague, 1909 -1913 #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

There was a woman nee HECKER living in Prague in the era 1909 - 1913:

http://digi.nacr.cz/prihlasky.

HORNOF Karl [born 1884] married to HORNOF (nee HECKER} Marie - born 1886

Children HORNOF Karl [dob 1910] and HORNOF Blazena [dob 1912]

I do not think they were Jewish. The date of marriage is given on the
Meldezettel 7 Feb. 1909 in Stresovic: http://tinyurl.com/34mfgu

They should be checked-out further.

Celia Male [U.K.]


KERSHMAN and DUGOLENSKY #ciechanow #poland

Joan Naimark
 

My maternal grandparents were Samuel Joseph KERSHMAN and Sarah DUGOLENSKY.
They were both born in or near Ciechanow in the mid-1880s. They married in
1905 and emigrated to London, England, where they had 5 children and stayed
until they came to Montreal, Canada, in 1922. Sarah's sister Helene
DUGOLENSKY was known to be in Berlin in the mid-1930s.

I would appreciate hearing >from researchers who have come across these names
in their families or in their own genealogical investigations.

Joan Naimark
Montreal, Quebec, Canada
joan.naimark@sympatico.ca
KERSHMAN, DUGOLENSKY Ciechanow, Poland
NAIMARK, KOPLEWICZ, JAGODA, FROIMOWICZ Wyszkow, Poland


#Ciechanow #Poland KERSHMAN and DUGOLENSKY #ciechanow #poland

Joan Naimark
 

My maternal grandparents were Samuel Joseph KERSHMAN and Sarah DUGOLENSKY.
They were both born in or near Ciechanow in the mid-1880s. They married in
1905 and emigrated to London, England, where they had 5 children and stayed
until they came to Montreal, Canada, in 1922. Sarah's sister Helene
DUGOLENSKY was known to be in Berlin in the mid-1930s.

I would appreciate hearing >from researchers who have come across these names
in their families or in their own genealogical investigations.

Joan Naimark
Montreal, Quebec, Canada
joan.naimark@sympatico.ca
KERSHMAN, DUGOLENSKY Ciechanow, Poland
NAIMARK, KOPLEWICZ, JAGODA, FROIMOWICZ Wyszkow, Poland


Re: Record researcher wanted #ciechanow #poland

MICHAEL WILKS <michael.wilks2@...>
 

No - but I'd be interested if you find someone!
Michael Wilks,
8, New Hall Road, SALFORD, M7 4EL, UK
0161 792 6339

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#Ciechanow #Poland RE: Record researcher wanted #ciechanow #poland

MICHAEL WILKS <michael.wilks2@...>
 

No - but I'd be interested if you find someone!
Michael Wilks,
8, New Hall Road, SALFORD, M7 4EL, UK
0161 792 6339

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Sent: 11 July 2007 19:17
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NY/USA


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