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Romsthal names #germany

Hillary Einziger
 

Thanks to help >from several people on the list, I was able to get a
translation of most of the writing on the inside covers of the books
that belonged to my ggg-grandfather, Meir Baer KULP, in Romsthal,
Hesse. The publication dates on the books range >from 1825 to the
1850s, and the handwritten dates range >from 1846 to 1872. Most of the
writing is just variations on "This book belongs to M. B. Kulp," but
there are a few other things.

In one of the books, his name is written as Meir Baer KULP ben
Eliezer. I'd been told that his father's name was Samuel -- I have a
pot that my grandmother said belonged to Meir Baer's father, and the
name "Shmuel" is engraved on it. (I think it's one of the pots meant
to be kept warm in the communal ovens during Shabbat, with the names
on them to identify the owners -- I saw one of nearly identical design
at the Jewish Museum several years ago.) It doesn't seem like Samuel
and Eliezer could have been interchangable names -- perhaps Samuel was
actually Eliezer's father?

Also, two of the books had short lists of names with numbers next to
them. The first one, written in German, was
Simon BLUMENTHAL 25
Louis KURZ (KUNZ?) 13
Maier KAUFFMAN 25

The second one, written in Hebrew characters, and a bit more smudged
so that I can't read all of it, was
Leib (?)
Izak HUBERT
Yacob (MUNTZ?)
? WEISSBECKER?

I found a Yad Vashem record of a Willi HUBERT, born in Romsthal in
1876 to Isaak and Mathilde. I'm not sure what the lists mean, or what
the numbers mean. Does anybody have a guess? Thank you,


Hillary Einziger Washington, DC <hillaryre@gmail.com>


German SIG #Germany Romsthal names #germany

Hillary Einziger
 

Thanks to help >from several people on the list, I was able to get a
translation of most of the writing on the inside covers of the books
that belonged to my ggg-grandfather, Meir Baer KULP, in Romsthal,
Hesse. The publication dates on the books range >from 1825 to the
1850s, and the handwritten dates range >from 1846 to 1872. Most of the
writing is just variations on "This book belongs to M. B. Kulp," but
there are a few other things.

In one of the books, his name is written as Meir Baer KULP ben
Eliezer. I'd been told that his father's name was Samuel -- I have a
pot that my grandmother said belonged to Meir Baer's father, and the
name "Shmuel" is engraved on it. (I think it's one of the pots meant
to be kept warm in the communal ovens during Shabbat, with the names
on them to identify the owners -- I saw one of nearly identical design
at the Jewish Museum several years ago.) It doesn't seem like Samuel
and Eliezer could have been interchangable names -- perhaps Samuel was
actually Eliezer's father?

Also, two of the books had short lists of names with numbers next to
them. The first one, written in German, was
Simon BLUMENTHAL 25
Louis KURZ (KUNZ?) 13
Maier KAUFFMAN 25

The second one, written in Hebrew characters, and a bit more smudged
so that I can't read all of it, was
Leib (?)
Izak HUBERT
Yacob (MUNTZ?)
? WEISSBECKER?

I found a Yad Vashem record of a Willi HUBERT, born in Romsthal in
1876 to Isaak and Mathilde. I'm not sure what the lists mean, or what
the numbers mean. Does anybody have a guess? Thank you,


Hillary Einziger Washington, DC <hillaryre@gmail.com>


Addresses in Poland/Galicia & Directories Online #galicia

Pamela Weisberger <pweisberger@...>
 

Re: Tuvia Palmer's request for suggestions on how to find addresses
for ancestors who once lived in Galicia:

I would advise going to Logan Kleinwaks's "Search Engine for Online
Historical Directories" at:

http://www.dbhd.org/search.php

This website searches text versions of scanned pre-WWII directories.
Logan also offers hints for making your searching more productive,
given the limitations of OCR (optical character recognition), so it
is important to read through his instructions and the FAQ link.

Be sure to scroll all the way down the page to view all the
directories available. The years span 1901 through 1930 and cover
all of "Galicia" (even when it became Poland) in several directories.
For those of you researching family that might have moved to Warsaw,
Danzig, Posen, Romania or Silesia, these directories are also
available.

Pamela Weisberger
Research Coordinator, Gesher Galicia
pweisberger@hotmail.com


How to set up memorial in Gnojnik, Poland #galicia

Nancy Fox <jessefox7@...>
 

Dear Genners, if any of you have ever placed a small memorial (even
wall plaque) in your family's shtetl in Poland, would you kindly
offer me some advice? Please correspond with me directly.

I have written a letter to my grandmother's town mayor for Gmina
Gnojnik in Brzesko Powiat/County/District, Poland (formerly
Galicia) to ask permission, but I have not sent the letter until I
know what is the best protocol or way of approaching the mayor
regarding this issue.

None of my immediate SILBERSPITZ family >from Gnojnik died in the
Holocaust as far as I know. One immediate relative of mine born in
Gnojnik and resided in Berlin escaped >from Germany in 1938. Everyone
else in my family living in Gnojnik died by 1937. My grandmother
died in the USA in 1923.

A few other Jewish families >from Gnojnik were victims of the
Holocaust and are listed on POT's on Yad Vashem's website...their
survivors may have left a memorial in Gnojnik already.

Thank you in advance for your advice.

Regards,
Nancy Fox
Franklin, Tennessee, USA
jessefox7@bellsouth.net
Searching: SILBERSPITZ >from Gnojnik, Poland


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Addresses in Poland/Galicia & Directories Online #galicia

Pamela Weisberger <pweisberger@...>
 

Re: Tuvia Palmer's request for suggestions on how to find addresses
for ancestors who once lived in Galicia:

I would advise going to Logan Kleinwaks's "Search Engine for Online
Historical Directories" at:

http://www.dbhd.org/search.php

This website searches text versions of scanned pre-WWII directories.
Logan also offers hints for making your searching more productive,
given the limitations of OCR (optical character recognition), so it
is important to read through his instructions and the FAQ link.

Be sure to scroll all the way down the page to view all the
directories available. The years span 1901 through 1930 and cover
all of "Galicia" (even when it became Poland) in several directories.
For those of you researching family that might have moved to Warsaw,
Danzig, Posen, Romania or Silesia, these directories are also
available.

Pamela Weisberger
Research Coordinator, Gesher Galicia
pweisberger@hotmail.com


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia How to set up memorial in Gnojnik, Poland #galicia

Nancy Fox <jessefox7@...>
 

Dear Genners, if any of you have ever placed a small memorial (even
wall plaque) in your family's shtetl in Poland, would you kindly
offer me some advice? Please correspond with me directly.

I have written a letter to my grandmother's town mayor for Gmina
Gnojnik in Brzesko Powiat/County/District, Poland (formerly
Galicia) to ask permission, but I have not sent the letter until I
know what is the best protocol or way of approaching the mayor
regarding this issue.

None of my immediate SILBERSPITZ family >from Gnojnik died in the
Holocaust as far as I know. One immediate relative of mine born in
Gnojnik and resided in Berlin escaped >from Germany in 1938. Everyone
else in my family living in Gnojnik died by 1937. My grandmother
died in the USA in 1923.

A few other Jewish families >from Gnojnik were victims of the
Holocaust and are listed on POT's on Yad Vashem's website...their
survivors may have left a memorial in Gnojnik already.

Thank you in advance for your advice.

Regards,
Nancy Fox
Franklin, Tennessee, USA
jessefox7@bellsouth.net
Searching: SILBERSPITZ >from Gnojnik, Poland


Re: Visiting Poland & need help to find where grandparents lived #galicia

Dave Lewak <dave@...>
 

I found a number of birth records for Czchow (near Brzesko) had the
addresses where the births occurred. How those addresses correspond
to the current town layouts, I have no idea.

Dave Lewak
Oakland, CA, USA

researching -- WINZELBERG, WERTHEIM(ER), SILBERSTEIN, STEINBERG
from Czchow; LIEBERMAN, FINKELSTEIN >from Balbieriskis, Lithuania;
MISHURIS, TOBERMAN, POLISHER, FLICKSTEIN >from Balta, Ukraine;
LEWAK, GOLDBERG, KIER, FLAKSMAN, DIVINSKY >from Drohiczyn, Kobrin
and Chomsk in Belarus.

Tuvia Palmer <tuvia82@gmail.com> wrote:

I am planning on visiting Poland, and I want to see & visit the
houses where my grandparents (& other family members) lived, but
I have no clue how to find out the exact address....
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Visiting Poland & need house address #galicia

Nancy Fox <jessefox7@...>
 

Tuvia Palmer wrote: "I am planning on visiting Poland [Brzesko,
etc.], and I want to see & visit the houses where my grandparents
(& other family members) lived, but I have no clue how to find out
the exact address."

My grandmother's house address is listed on her birth certificate
dated 1895, which was accessed >from the Brzesko archives in 1914.
Just in case Tuvia has any family birth certificates, she may want
to look at them, also.

Regards,
Nancy Fox
Franklin, Tennessee, USA
jessefox7@bellsouth.net


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Visiting Poland & need help to find where grandparents lived #galicia

Dave Lewak <dave@...>
 

I found a number of birth records for Czchow (near Brzesko) had the
addresses where the births occurred. How those addresses correspond
to the current town layouts, I have no idea.

Dave Lewak
Oakland, CA, USA

researching -- WINZELBERG, WERTHEIM(ER), SILBERSTEIN, STEINBERG
from Czchow; LIEBERMAN, FINKELSTEIN >from Balbieriskis, Lithuania;
MISHURIS, TOBERMAN, POLISHER, FLICKSTEIN >from Balta, Ukraine;
LEWAK, GOLDBERG, KIER, FLAKSMAN, DIVINSKY >from Drohiczyn, Kobrin
and Chomsk in Belarus.

Tuvia Palmer <tuvia82@gmail.com> wrote:

I am planning on visiting Poland, and I want to see & visit the
houses where my grandparents (& other family members) lived, but
I have no clue how to find out the exact address....
MODERATOR'S NOTE: When responding to a message, please don't hit
reply and include all that appears on your screen. Please take the
time to quote minimally >from the original message you are answering
and to delete all other text.


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Visiting Poland & need house address #galicia

Nancy Fox <jessefox7@...>
 

Tuvia Palmer wrote: "I am planning on visiting Poland [Brzesko,
etc.], and I want to see & visit the houses where my grandparents
(& other family members) lived, but I have no clue how to find out
the exact address."

My grandmother's house address is listed on her birth certificate
dated 1895, which was accessed >from the Brzesko archives in 1914.
Just in case Tuvia has any family birth certificates, she may want
to look at them, also.

Regards,
Nancy Fox
Franklin, Tennessee, USA
jessefox7@bellsouth.net


Looking for information on neighborhoods in Oradea #hungary

Leslie Weinberg <lbw50@...>
 

My researcher in Romania sent me the birth records for my
grandmother and eleven of her siblings. To start with, I was amazed
at the number of births, since I know of only six children
altogether. Most of the others died at the age of a month, or
slightly older. Was this common?
I also noticed that the family seemed to move >from one residence to
another, with practically every birth. There are at least eight
different addresses, with one of them repeating ( Kolosvari),
appearing with the third, eighth, and eleventh birth.
Can anyone tell me where these streets are, what kind of
neighborhood they were in? They are Nagy Magyar St., Pecze St.,
Kolazsvari St., Szent Janos St., Nagy Hid St., Gyar St., Malom St.,
and Suto St.

Thank you, Leslie Weinberg
lbw50@optonline.net
Searching Eisen - Tyczyn, Poland, Oradea, Romania, Paris France.
Blumenberg - Tyczyn, Poland. Reisz (Reiss, Reis) - Oradea, Romania,
Hungary (all). November - Oradea, Galos Petri, Szalard Romania,
Hungary. Goldstein - Oradea. Iram - Tyczyn and all of Poland. Grin -
Hungary. Danskoy - (Danskoi, Donskoy) Nezhin, Ukraine. Weinberg,
Sominsky, Mischinsky - Valdemarpils, all of Latvia.
Moderator: Please include city or country of residence with your signature.


Hungary SIG #Hungary Looking for information on neighborhoods in Oradea #hungary

Leslie Weinberg <lbw50@...>
 

My researcher in Romania sent me the birth records for my
grandmother and eleven of her siblings. To start with, I was amazed
at the number of births, since I know of only six children
altogether. Most of the others died at the age of a month, or
slightly older. Was this common?
I also noticed that the family seemed to move >from one residence to
another, with practically every birth. There are at least eight
different addresses, with one of them repeating ( Kolosvari),
appearing with the third, eighth, and eleventh birth.
Can anyone tell me where these streets are, what kind of
neighborhood they were in? They are Nagy Magyar St., Pecze St.,
Kolazsvari St., Szent Janos St., Nagy Hid St., Gyar St., Malom St.,
and Suto St.

Thank you, Leslie Weinberg
lbw50@optonline.net
Searching Eisen - Tyczyn, Poland, Oradea, Romania, Paris France.
Blumenberg - Tyczyn, Poland. Reisz (Reiss, Reis) - Oradea, Romania,
Hungary (all). November - Oradea, Galos Petri, Szalard Romania,
Hungary. Goldstein - Oradea. Iram - Tyczyn and all of Poland. Grin -
Hungary. Danskoy - (Danskoi, Donskoy) Nezhin, Ukraine. Weinberg,
Sominsky, Mischinsky - Valdemarpils, all of Latvia.
Moderator: Please include city or country of residence with your signature.


Hungarian Names and nicknames #hungary

alex miller <alexpmiller@...>
 

I recommend this site for Hungarian names and nicknames(becenev) cross-reference

I found even Jetti!

http://www.origo.hu/utonevtar/index/index.html

PS is there a Yiddish name/nincname ref on Jewishgen?

alex miller Gencap, PA


Hungary SIG #Hungary Hungarian Names and nicknames #hungary

alex miller <alexpmiller@...>
 

I recommend this site for Hungarian names and nicknames(becenev) cross-reference

I found even Jetti!

http://www.origo.hu/utonevtar/index/index.html

PS is there a Yiddish name/nincname ref on Jewishgen?

alex miller Gencap, PA


misdirected message #galicia

Moderator <ggsigmod@...>
 

My message to Karyn Michaels was meant to be sent privately.
I apologize for accidentally sending it to all.

Moderator
Gesher Galicia Mailing List
GGSIGMod@gmail.com


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia misdirected message #galicia

Moderator <ggsigmod@...>
 

My message to Karyn Michaels was meant to be sent privately.
I apologize for accidentally sending it to all.

Moderator
Gesher Galicia Mailing List
GGSIGMod@gmail.com


addresses in Poland #galicia

Suzan & Ron Wynne <srwynne@...>
 

Tuvia Palmer has raised an interesting issue about finding
addresses for family. I would imagine that everyone traveling to
towns in what was Galicia, have confronted this problem. This is
a complicated question.

There were maps of property prepared by the government for the
purposes of taxation. Although they are marvelous, they are
difficult to access at this point and identifying an address could
involve much time and expense.

There were directories for the purposes of advertising. JewishGen
has some of them online but without the addresses. Most of them are
on microfilm and can be accessed through archival and library
resources in the United States but I couldn't say if Israel's
National Library has acquired them. The Central Archives for the
History of the Jewish People might have them.

There were also city based directories, some of which are on
microfilm and some that may be available in city libraries in Poland
and Ukraine. I have seen phone directories in Poland, published in
the 1930s but each directory covered all of Poland and only included
the phone number, not the home address.

I found my great grandfather's address in Przemysl on his 1898 death
record. By then, Przemysl had discontinued its practice of numbering
the buildings, which must have led to much confusion. I was also
fortunate in finding some correspondence still in envelopes with
addresses. When I went in 1986, there were still people alive in the
smaller towns who knew where families lived but, in the larger
communities, particularly where there was war damage, that would be
an unlikely resource.

Happy hunting!

Suzan Wynne
Kensington, MD


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia addresses in Poland #galicia

Suzan & Ron Wynne <srwynne@...>
 

Tuvia Palmer has raised an interesting issue about finding
addresses for family. I would imagine that everyone traveling to
towns in what was Galicia, have confronted this problem. This is
a complicated question.

There were maps of property prepared by the government for the
purposes of taxation. Although they are marvelous, they are
difficult to access at this point and identifying an address could
involve much time and expense.

There were directories for the purposes of advertising. JewishGen
has some of them online but without the addresses. Most of them are
on microfilm and can be accessed through archival and library
resources in the United States but I couldn't say if Israel's
National Library has acquired them. The Central Archives for the
History of the Jewish People might have them.

There were also city based directories, some of which are on
microfilm and some that may be available in city libraries in Poland
and Ukraine. I have seen phone directories in Poland, published in
the 1930s but each directory covered all of Poland and only included
the phone number, not the home address.

I found my great grandfather's address in Przemysl on his 1898 death
record. By then, Przemysl had discontinued its practice of numbering
the buildings, which must have led to much confusion. I was also
fortunate in finding some correspondence still in envelopes with
addresses. When I went in 1986, there were still people alive in the
smaller towns who knew where families lived but, in the larger
communities, particularly where there was war damage, that would be
an unlikely resource.

Happy hunting!

Suzan Wynne
Kensington, MD


Re: Visiting Poland & need help to find where grandparents lived #galicia

Simon Barak
 

I would try first of all the 1929 Polish Business Directory
Project (http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/bizdir/start.htm).

Dr Shimon Barak

Tuvia Palmer <tuvia82@gmail.com> wrote:

... I want to see & visit the houses where my grandparents
(& other family members) lived, but I have no clue how to find out
the exact address.... visiting Krakow, Tarnow, Gorlicia, Brzesko.


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Re: Visiting Poland & need help to find where grandparents lived #galicia

Simon Barak
 

I would try first of all the 1929 Polish Business Directory
Project (http://www.jewishgen.org/jri-pl/bizdir/start.htm).

Dr Shimon Barak

Tuvia Palmer <tuvia82@gmail.com> wrote:

... I want to see & visit the houses where my grandparents
(& other family members) lived, but I have no clue how to find out
the exact address.... visiting Krakow, Tarnow, Gorlicia, Brzesko.