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FREEDMAN/LEVY/ABRAMSON/ERLICH #unitedkingdom

monicamcmullin@mac.com
 

from the Kovno area to South Africa via Ireland.
On 29th Dec 1880 in DUBLIN, Ralf FRIEDMAN/FREDMAN
also known as; Phillip FRIEDMAN/FREDMAN/FREEDMAN
son of T. Friedman ('T' is probably Tobias)
Married Sarah née LEVY, daughter of David LEVY.
They are on the 1901 & 1911 Dublin census listed as:
Phillip & Sarah FREEMAN, with children;
Ellen b: abt 1883, Minnie b: abt 1885,
Lillian b: abt 1888, Eva b: abt 1891 and also
Esther b: abt 1904. The family lived at:
House 77. 1, Sevelle Place, North Dock, Dublin in 1901.
House 39, 1, Circular Road, Portobello, Dublin in 1911.
This family might have stayed in Dublin.
Ralf aka Phillip had a sister named Esther who married
Maurice ABRAMSON son of David in Dublin in 1887.
This family have a link to the ERLICH family & probably
stayed in Dublin with links to South Africa.
They also had a brother Louis FRIEDMAN who went to
Liverpool & another brother Isaac, Jacob FREEDMAN
who went to South Africa in 1892 where his eldest son
Maurice FREEMAN was Mayor of Johannesburg 1934-5.
Their parents were Tobias & Faiga FRIEDMAN/FREEDMAN
who remained in Dublin.

Any of these names ring any bells please contact me.

Monica McMullin
Liverpool UK
monicamcmullin@mac.com


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom FREEDMAN/LEVY/ABRAMSON/ERLICH #unitedkingdom

monicamcmullin@mac.com
 

from the Kovno area to South Africa via Ireland.
On 29th Dec 1880 in DUBLIN, Ralf FRIEDMAN/FREDMAN
also known as; Phillip FRIEDMAN/FREDMAN/FREEDMAN
son of T. Friedman ('T' is probably Tobias)
Married Sarah née LEVY, daughter of David LEVY.
They are on the 1901 & 1911 Dublin census listed as:
Phillip & Sarah FREEMAN, with children;
Ellen b: abt 1883, Minnie b: abt 1885,
Lillian b: abt 1888, Eva b: abt 1891 and also
Esther b: abt 1904. The family lived at:
House 77. 1, Sevelle Place, North Dock, Dublin in 1901.
House 39, 1, Circular Road, Portobello, Dublin in 1911.
This family might have stayed in Dublin.
Ralf aka Phillip had a sister named Esther who married
Maurice ABRAMSON son of David in Dublin in 1887.
This family have a link to the ERLICH family & probably
stayed in Dublin with links to South Africa.
They also had a brother Louis FRIEDMAN who went to
Liverpool & another brother Isaac, Jacob FREEDMAN
who went to South Africa in 1892 where his eldest son
Maurice FREEMAN was Mayor of Johannesburg 1934-5.
Their parents were Tobias & Faiga FRIEDMAN/FREEDMAN
who remained in Dublin.

Any of these names ring any bells please contact me.

Monica McMullin
Liverpool UK
monicamcmullin@mac.com


Re: Hirsch/Rabinovitch in Argentina #latinamerica

John Freeman
 

I was interested in the Moderator's comment to the message for assistance in
finding information about immigration to Argentina of specific families.

I had never heard of the CEMLA database/website, accessed it and was
pleasantly surprised. Are there other similar sites possibly for immigrants
to other Latin American countries? Specifically I am trying to find
information about the CONIA, ROTTMAN, EDELMAN, HIRSCH families >from Romania,
Hungary, Ukraine who emigrated to Peru in the 1920s to1940s.

Thank you,

Jack Freeman
Mississauga, Ontario, Canada

Researching: GOLDHAMER


Latin America #LatinAmerica Re: Hirsch/Rabinovitch in Argentina #latinamerica

John Freeman
 

I was interested in the Moderator's comment to the message for assistance in
finding information about immigration to Argentina of specific families.

I had never heard of the CEMLA database/website, accessed it and was
pleasantly surprised. Are there other similar sites possibly for immigrants
to other Latin American countries? Specifically I am trying to find
information about the CONIA, ROTTMAN, EDELMAN, HIRSCH families >from Romania,
Hungary, Ukraine who emigrated to Peru in the 1920s to1940s.

Thank you,

Jack Freeman
Mississauga, Ontario, Canada

Researching: GOLDHAMER


FREEDMAN/LEVY/ABRAMSON/ERLICH #lithuania

monicamcmullin@mac.com
 

from the Kovno area to South Africa via Ireland.
On 29th Dec 1880 in DUBLIN, Ralf FRIEDMAN/FREDMAN
also known as; Phillip FRIEDMAN/FREDMAN/FREEDMAN
son of T. Friedman ('T' is probably Tobias)
Married Sarah nee LEVY, daughter of David LEVY.
They are on the 1901 & 1911 Dublin census listed as:
Phillip & Sarah FREEMAN, with children;
Ellen b: abt 1883, Minnie b: abt 1885,
Lillian b: abt 1888, Eva b: abt 1891 and also
Esther b: abt 1904. The family lived at:
House 77. 1, Sevelle Place, North Dock, Dublin in 1901.
House 39, 1, Circular Road, Portobello, Dublin in 1911.
This family might have stayed in Dublin.
Ralf aka Phillip had a sister named Esther who married
Maurice ABRAMSON son of David in Dublin in 1887.
This family have a link to the ERLICH family & probably
stayed in Dublin with links to South Africa.
They also had a brother Louis FRIEDMAN who went to
Liverpool & another brother Isaac, Jacob FREEDMAN
who went to South Africa in 1892 where his eldest son
Maurice FREEMAN was Mayor of Johannesburg 1934-5.
Their parents were Tobias & Faiga FRIEDMAN/FREEDMAN
who remained in Dublin.

Any of these names ring any bells please contact me.

Monica McMullin
Liverpool UK
monicamcmullin@mac.com

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately with family information.
Suggestions for research methods or resources may be shared with
the list.


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania FREEDMAN/LEVY/ABRAMSON/ERLICH #lithuania

monicamcmullin@mac.com
 

from the Kovno area to South Africa via Ireland.
On 29th Dec 1880 in DUBLIN, Ralf FRIEDMAN/FREDMAN
also known as; Phillip FRIEDMAN/FREDMAN/FREEDMAN
son of T. Friedman ('T' is probably Tobias)
Married Sarah nee LEVY, daughter of David LEVY.
They are on the 1901 & 1911 Dublin census listed as:
Phillip & Sarah FREEMAN, with children;
Ellen b: abt 1883, Minnie b: abt 1885,
Lillian b: abt 1888, Eva b: abt 1891 and also
Esther b: abt 1904. The family lived at:
House 77. 1, Sevelle Place, North Dock, Dublin in 1901.
House 39, 1, Circular Road, Portobello, Dublin in 1911.
This family might have stayed in Dublin.
Ralf aka Phillip had a sister named Esther who married
Maurice ABRAMSON son of David in Dublin in 1887.
This family have a link to the ERLICH family & probably
stayed in Dublin with links to South Africa.
They also had a brother Louis FRIEDMAN who went to
Liverpool & another brother Isaac, Jacob FREEDMAN
who went to South Africa in 1892 where his eldest son
Maurice FREEMAN was Mayor of Johannesburg 1934-5.
Their parents were Tobias & Faiga FRIEDMAN/FREEDMAN
who remained in Dublin.

Any of these names ring any bells please contact me.

Monica McMullin
Liverpool UK
monicamcmullin@mac.com

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately with family information.
Suggestions for research methods or resources may be shared with
the list.


Tavern Keeper as a Jewish Occupation #lithuania

William Yoffee
 

Whether or not tavern keeping was primarily a Jewish occupation, a fairly
common surname among Jews is KRETCHMER, which means tavern. This indicates
that somewhere in the family's past, possibly even before the adoption of
family surnames someone in the family was a tavern keeper.

The surname of my wife's paternal grandmother's family was KRETCHMER. I
interviewed her great uncle, Mendel KRETCHMER, at age 100. He described
his life in a small village outside Birzai in the Panevezys District called
Kirkilai (Yiddish: Kirchel), in which his father, Mordechai Joseph ben
Yahuda Leib KRETCHMER, was born about 1851. He was my wife's great
grandfather who came to America around 1914 and was the keeper
of the family tavern in Kirkilai, which Mendel described to me.
Her gggrandfather, Yahuda Leib KRETCHMER ben Abram was born around 1826.

When I visited the village of Kirkilai, I found one building built of brick
that served as a store which seemed to fit Mendel's description of the
tavern. Considering the size of the tree in front, the building seemed to
be quite old. I have a photograph taken in 2008, if anyone is interested.

Shabbat Shalom,
Bill Yoffee
Panevezys District Research Group Coordinator
kidsbks@verizon.net


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Tavern Keeper as a Jewish Occupation #lithuania

William Yoffee
 

Whether or not tavern keeping was primarily a Jewish occupation, a fairly
common surname among Jews is KRETCHMER, which means tavern. This indicates
that somewhere in the family's past, possibly even before the adoption of
family surnames someone in the family was a tavern keeper.

The surname of my wife's paternal grandmother's family was KRETCHMER. I
interviewed her great uncle, Mendel KRETCHMER, at age 100. He described
his life in a small village outside Birzai in the Panevezys District called
Kirkilai (Yiddish: Kirchel), in which his father, Mordechai Joseph ben
Yahuda Leib KRETCHMER, was born about 1851. He was my wife's great
grandfather who came to America around 1914 and was the keeper
of the family tavern in Kirkilai, which Mendel described to me.
Her gggrandfather, Yahuda Leib KRETCHMER ben Abram was born around 1826.

When I visited the village of Kirkilai, I found one building built of brick
that served as a store which seemed to fit Mendel's description of the
tavern. Considering the size of the tree in front, the building seemed to
be quite old. I have a photograph taken in 2008, if anyone is interested.

Shabbat Shalom,
Bill Yoffee
Panevezys District Research Group Coordinator
kidsbks@verizon.net


Re: Tavern Keepers #general

Ava Cohn <avatom@...>
 

"I would appreciate any comments about the fact there there were so many
tavern keepers..."

My SHENKMAN family were tavern keepers in Volyntsy, Vitebsk gubernia, now
Belarus, near the border of Dvinsk, Lithuania. My grandmother talked about
how non-Jews would frequent the tavern, get drunk and dance all night in
the tavern. Whether it was a bed and breakfast as Howard Margol has
suggested of taverns in Lithuania, I do not know. I can, however, attest to
antisemitism against the tavern keepers. A few years ago, Yuri Dorn sent me
a famous Byelorussian "fairytale" about Jewish tavern keepers, "Lantuch v
shenke" (Ghost in the Tavern). This antisemitic tale, by coincidence just
happens to be about the tavern keeper in Volyntsy, Vitebsk guberniya, my
SHENKMAN family. The tale centers around a ghost that inhabits a tavern
and causes such havoc that the tavern keeper is forced to turn over his
business to a Byelorussian. Lo and behold, once the Jewish entrepreneur
is gone, the ghost departs. As with every endeavor our ancestors were
involved in, antisemitism was never far >from the door. By the way, the
surname SHENKMAN is Yiddish for tavern owner.

Ava Cohn
Long Grove, IL


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania RE:Tavern Keepers #lithuania

Ava Cohn <avatom@...>
 

"I would appreciate any comments about the fact there there were so many
tavern keepers..."

My SHENKMAN family were tavern keepers in Volyntsy, Vitebsk gubernia, now
Belarus, near the border of Dvinsk, Lithuania. My grandmother talked about
how non-Jews would frequent the tavern, get drunk and dance all night in
the tavern. Whether it was a bed and breakfast as Howard Margol has
suggested of taverns in Lithuania, I do not know. I can, however, attest to
antisemitism against the tavern keepers. A few years ago, Yuri Dorn sent me
a famous Byelorussian "fairytale" about Jewish tavern keepers, "Lantuch v
shenke" (Ghost in the Tavern). This antisemitic tale, by coincidence just
happens to be about the tavern keeper in Volyntsy, Vitebsk guberniya, my
SHENKMAN family. The tale centers around a ghost that inhabits a tavern
and causes such havoc that the tavern keeper is forced to turn over his
business to a Byelorussian. Lo and behold, once the Jewish entrepreneur
is gone, the ghost departs. As with every endeavor our ancestors were
involved in, antisemitism was never far >from the door. By the way, the
surname SHENKMAN is Yiddish for tavern owner.

Ava Cohn
Long Grove, IL


Internal Passport Records Added to database #lithuania

Howard Margol
 

A total of 3,740 Internal Passport records, 1919-1940, have been
added to the database and are available to be searched.
The breakdown is as follows:

Marijampole - 2,694 records
Ukmerge - 785 records
Panevezys - 261 records

They can be found by searching the the LitvakSIG's "All Lithuania Database"
(ALD) as well as "JewishGen Lithuania Database". More information is at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Lithuania/InternalPassports.htm

Generally, the records include the place where the person was born
so you may find ancestors listed even though you do not think they
lived in one of the above towns. Some individuals listed were born
outside of Lithuania, particularly in Belarus and Poland.

Additional internal passport records for the above towns have been
translated but not added to the database because of an 18 month delay.
The Marijampole records can be found on the Suwalki District web site
and the Ukmerge records on the Ukmerge District web site.
Over 10,000 Panevezys internal passport records will be added to
the Panevezys District web site in the next several weeks.

If you would like to see the internal passport records for those
districts that have been translated, but not added to the database,
please go to the district web site.
You can see a list of district web sites at
http://www.litvaksig.org/districtresearch

If you have any questions, or need help in accessing the district
web sites, please contact me at < homargol@aol.com >. If you have
a success story involving the internal passport records, feel free
to post it on the digest.

Howard Margol
Founder - Coordinator - Internal Passport Project


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Internal Passport Records Added to database #lithuania

Howard Margol
 

A total of 3,740 Internal Passport records, 1919-1940, have been
added to the database and are available to be searched.
The breakdown is as follows:

Marijampole - 2,694 records
Ukmerge - 785 records
Panevezys - 261 records

They can be found by searching the the LitvakSIG's "All Lithuania Database"
(ALD) as well as "JewishGen Lithuania Database". More information is at:
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/Lithuania/InternalPassports.htm

Generally, the records include the place where the person was born
so you may find ancestors listed even though you do not think they
lived in one of the above towns. Some individuals listed were born
outside of Lithuania, particularly in Belarus and Poland.

Additional internal passport records for the above towns have been
translated but not added to the database because of an 18 month delay.
The Marijampole records can be found on the Suwalki District web site
and the Ukmerge records on the Ukmerge District web site.
Over 10,000 Panevezys internal passport records will be added to
the Panevezys District web site in the next several weeks.

If you would like to see the internal passport records for those
districts that have been translated, but not added to the database,
please go to the district web site.
You can see a list of district web sites at
http://www.litvaksig.org/districtresearch

If you have any questions, or need help in accessing the district
web sites, please contact me at < homargol@aol.com >. If you have
a success story involving the internal passport records, feel free
to post it on the digest.

Howard Margol
Founder - Coordinator - Internal Passport Project


Rabbi M. of Rotenburg and Boshoklia - Bessarabia? #bessarabia

J. Michael Burke <ichiro@...>
 

I have a letter >from my grandfather who was the Rabbi of Community of
Boshoklia in Bessarabia. It is dated 12 Kislev, 5681 (November 21,
1920). In the letter (I am working >from a translation) he mentions that
my father is the grandson of the Rabbi M. of Rotenburg and three
other righteous men. I believe he is referring not to the 13th
century Rabbi Meir of Rothenburg but to my father's maternal
grandfather.

I would appreciate any insight anyone might have about a Rabbi M. of
Rotenburg.

I would also appreciate any information about the Community of
Boshoklia mentioned in the letter. I have not been able to locate any
record of such a community in Bessarabia. I have discovered similar
names, listed below, but am not certain that any of these could be the
same town:

Bashkaliya
Bascalia
Beysogol
Beisagola
Bacicaul
Bocicul
Bocicoul (or Bocicoul Mare).

Thank you for considering my request.

Michael Burke
Portland, Oregon


Bessarabia SIG #Bessarabia Rabbi M. of Rotenburg and Boshoklia - Bessarabia? #bessarabia

J. Michael Burke <ichiro@...>
 

I have a letter >from my grandfather who was the Rabbi of Community of
Boshoklia in Bessarabia. It is dated 12 Kislev, 5681 (November 21,
1920). In the letter (I am working >from a translation) he mentions that
my father is the grandson of the Rabbi M. of Rotenburg and three
other righteous men. I believe he is referring not to the 13th
century Rabbi Meir of Rothenburg but to my father's maternal
grandfather.

I would appreciate any insight anyone might have about a Rabbi M. of
Rotenburg.

I would also appreciate any information about the Community of
Boshoklia mentioned in the letter. I have not been able to locate any
record of such a community in Bessarabia. I have discovered similar
names, listed below, but am not certain that any of these could be the
same town:

Bashkaliya
Bascalia
Beysogol
Beisagola
Bacicaul
Bocicul
Bocicoul (or Bocicoul Mare).

Thank you for considering my request.

Michael Burke
Portland, Oregon


Bacau Romania street plan 1933 #romania

marcelg@...
 

Bacau Romania street plan 1933
I have just received a copy of the municipal street plan for Bacau Romania
dated 1933.
This plan gives the old street names, which are not known today.
Those trying to identify streets given in old civil documents will find this
map invaluable.
If you are interested contact me.
Marcel Glaskie
Ra'anana Israel.


Romania SIG #Romania Bacau Romania street plan 1933 #romania

marcelg@...
 

Bacau Romania street plan 1933
I have just received a copy of the municipal street plan for Bacau Romania
dated 1933.
This plan gives the old street names, which are not known today.
Those trying to identify streets given in old civil documents will find this
map invaluable.
If you are interested contact me.
Marcel Glaskie
Ra'anana Israel.


Tavern Keepers #general

Ann Rabinowitz
 

One can find that there were recorded tavern keepers as far back
as the 1700's in the Grand Dutchy of Lithuania Census data. Not
only that, many families carried on the tradition of this occupation
amongst all the sons of a generation such as was found in Kupiskis,
Lithuania, where one family had five sons, all of whom were set up
in taverns in different surrounding villages.

In addition, when daughters married, if the father were able to, he
might provide the leasehold for a tavern as a dowery for the couple.
One such couple in Kupiskis were the lucky recipients of such a gift
which was a tavern at a major crossroads outside Vilna. It provided
a good living for the family until they later migrated to America.
There were also those families who handled the wholesale distribution
of liquor or beer which they obtained >from larger towns nearby such
as Rokiskis. They then delivered these supplies by horse-drawn
wagon or cart to taverns and other businesses in their district.

Tavern-keeping was not only a way of life in the Russian Empire, but
there were many Jews who carried on this occupation in America, the UK
and other places and one can find them listed as such in the Census
data of the time. They formed the commercial backbone of many
existing and emerging communities. One such tavern-keeper in Colonial
America was Abram Simon of Georgia who used to flood the post road
outside his tavern in order to encourage travellers to stop there
. . . and, there were many others, both male and female alike.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Tavern Keepers #general

Ann Rabinowitz
 

One can find that there were recorded tavern keepers as far back
as the 1700's in the Grand Dutchy of Lithuania Census data. Not
only that, many families carried on the tradition of this occupation
amongst all the sons of a generation such as was found in Kupiskis,
Lithuania, where one family had five sons, all of whom were set up
in taverns in different surrounding villages.

In addition, when daughters married, if the father were able to, he
might provide the leasehold for a tavern as a dowery for the couple.
One such couple in Kupiskis were the lucky recipients of such a gift
which was a tavern at a major crossroads outside Vilna. It provided
a good living for the family until they later migrated to America.
There were also those families who handled the wholesale distribution
of liquor or beer which they obtained >from larger towns nearby such
as Rokiskis. They then delivered these supplies by horse-drawn
wagon or cart to taverns and other businesses in their district.

Tavern-keeping was not only a way of life in the Russian Empire, but
there were many Jews who carried on this occupation in America, the UK
and other places and one can find them listed as such in the Census
data of the time. They formed the commercial backbone of many
existing and emerging communities. One such tavern-keeper in Colonial
America was Abram Simon of Georgia who used to flood the post road
outside his tavern in order to encourage travellers to stop there
. . . and, there were many others, both male and female alike.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net


(USA) Kentucky SB 54 Introduced- Restricts Access to Records and Established Waiting Period For Marriage Records #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

Kentucky SB 54 was introduced on January 3, 2012 by Senator Dennis Parrett
(D). If enacted the bill would restrict access to marriage and divorce
records if the marriage or divorce occurred within the past 70 years.
Currently, there are no restrictions on access to marriage and divorce
records. SB 54 also limits who may access vital records.

To see the bill go to: http://www.lrc.ky.gov/record/12RS/SB54.htm and click
on SB 54 on left. The bill was referred to the Senate Health and Welfare
Committee. No hearings have been set at the time of this notice.

Kentucky SN 54 has been added to the IAJGS Legislative Alert on the IAJGS
website: www.iajgs.org and click on left hand button "legislation" and then
click on "latest alert"

Jan Meisels Allen
IAJGS Vice President
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen (USA) Kentucky SB 54 Introduced- Restricts Access to Records and Established Waiting Period For Marriage Records #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

Kentucky SB 54 was introduced on January 3, 2012 by Senator Dennis Parrett
(D). If enacted the bill would restrict access to marriage and divorce
records if the marriage or divorce occurred within the past 70 years.
Currently, there are no restrictions on access to marriage and divorce
records. SB 54 also limits who may access vital records.

To see the bill go to: http://www.lrc.ky.gov/record/12RS/SB54.htm and click
on SB 54 on left. The bill was referred to the Senate Health and Welfare
Committee. No hearings have been set at the time of this notice.

Kentucky SN 54 has been added to the IAJGS Legislative Alert on the IAJGS
website: www.iajgs.org and click on left hand button "legislation" and then
click on "latest alert"

Jan Meisels Allen
IAJGS Vice President
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee

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