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Researching "LAUFER" #general

Mark Budman
 

Hello,

I am doing research on the family name "LAUFER". In particular, I am looking
for a branch of the family whose last known location was Netanya, Israel.

The name that I have was Saphir (Safir?) LAUFER who is more than likely deceased.
My branch of the LAUFER family was >from Hungary (and Austria before that).
Names that I have include: Bernard LAUFER, wife Aranka FARKAS, son Kornel (who
immigrated to Montreal in the late fifties).

The was also family in New York, who owned a diamond business.

Any information or assistance in locating LAUFER family would be greatly
appreciated.

Best Regards,
Mark
Mark Budman
mark@budman.ca


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Researching "LAUFER" #general

Mark Budman
 

Hello,

I am doing research on the family name "LAUFER". In particular, I am looking
for a branch of the family whose last known location was Netanya, Israel.

The name that I have was Saphir (Safir?) LAUFER who is more than likely deceased.
My branch of the LAUFER family was >from Hungary (and Austria before that).
Names that I have include: Bernard LAUFER, wife Aranka FARKAS, son Kornel (who
immigrated to Montreal in the late fifties).

The was also family in New York, who owned a diamond business.

Any information or assistance in locating LAUFER family would be greatly
appreciated.

Best Regards,
Mark
Mark Budman
mark@budman.ca


Re: Different first names in different sources #general

Ira Leviton
 

Dear Cousins,

Ellen Gottfried asked how to tell which is the correct first name for
her relative Aaron KENIG, whose grave father's name is Judah (I assume
she meant Yehuda) on his grave but Abram on his social security
application. His birth record is not available.

There are two approaches that I see. First, he probably did his own
social security application, but little likelihood that he designed his
own grave marker, so the social security record is more likely to be
correct. This still leaves a lot of uncertainty.

However, there could be other records that might mention his father's
name, such as his death certificate or immigration manifest, which
could serve as a tiebreaker. If neither of those can be found easily,
his father's name should also be on similar records of his siblings,
assuming he had at least one.

Regards,

Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Different first names in different sources #general

Ira Leviton
 

Dear Cousins,

Ellen Gottfried asked how to tell which is the correct first name for
her relative Aaron KENIG, whose grave father's name is Judah (I assume
she meant Yehuda) on his grave but Abram on his social security
application. His birth record is not available.

There are two approaches that I see. First, he probably did his own
social security application, but little likelihood that he designed his
own grave marker, so the social security record is more likely to be
correct. This still leaves a lot of uncertainty.

However, there could be other records that might mention his father's
name, such as his death certificate or immigration manifest, which
could serve as a tiebreaker. If neither of those can be found easily,
his father's name should also be on similar records of his siblings,
assuming he had at least one.

Regards,

Ira Leviton
New York, N.Y.


Romanian Jewish tours. #romania

Dennis Brown
 

Hi: We are planning a roots trip in 2019 to Romania.
My great,great,great,great grandfather,was born in Falticeni in 1806 and
migrated to Safed,Palestine in 1832.He was known as Rav Israel (Zusha )
GREENFELD or GRUENFELD. Does anyone know of tour guides (Jewish or non
Jewish ) who could help me in the towns of Falticeni or Suceava ? I
probably will need someone who can speak and read Hebrew and or Yiddish.
I would like to view old graveyards and visit any city hall looking for
old records.

Please email me any information or ideas.Thank you,
Dennis Brown
Houston,Texas.


Romania SIG #Romania Romanian Jewish tours. #romania

Dennis Brown
 

Hi: We are planning a roots trip in 2019 to Romania.
My great,great,great,great grandfather,was born in Falticeni in 1806 and
migrated to Safed,Palestine in 1832.He was known as Rav Israel (Zusha )
GREENFELD or GRUENFELD. Does anyone know of tour guides (Jewish or non
Jewish ) who could help me in the towns of Falticeni or Suceava ? I
probably will need someone who can speak and read Hebrew and or Yiddish.
I would like to view old graveyards and visit any city hall looking for
old records.

Please email me any information or ideas.Thank you,
Dennis Brown
Houston,Texas.


Re: Keshmer, Roumania? #romania

David Osachy <osachy@...>
 

Hi Hilary,

My best guess off the top of my head is that this may be a village
that is today known as Caracusenii Vechi, which is located just on the
Moldova side of the current border with Romania. There were a few
Jewish families living there according to the 1897 Russian census, but
it was too small to have its own synagogue or official community. It
would make some sense that "Keshmer" was its Yiddish name, though the
Romanian name clearly has Turkish origins (which is not unusual for
that area), "kara" for example meaning black.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caracu%C8%99enii_Vechi

There are other possibilities as well, such as another very small
village with a similar name (though one that would be a bit less
likely to be known as "Keshmer" in Yiddish) that is in Moldova close
to the current Ukrainian border. There is also the much larger town
of Calarasi in Moldova, about 30 miles east of Iasi, where there
surely was a fair-sized Jewish community and synagogue, etc. I don't
know what that town was called in colloquial Yiddish. Could someone
from there have been known as a "Keshmer"? Maybe...
As the borders changed, it would help to know the year that your
ancestor said his birthplace was Romania (not his birth year) to see
if I am on track with these possibilities.

Good luck,

Rabbi David Osachy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caracu%C8%99enii_Vechi

On 12/24/18, Hilary Henkin hilary@mymishpocha.net
<rom-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org> wrote:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hi all!

I haven't been doing much research lately (Life has a way of intruding
on our hobbies, darn it), but I was checking for a cousin (the other
side of her family), and found 2 ancestors who were born in Keshmer,
Roumania.=C2=A0 Does anyone know of this town, and where it is/what it's
called now?

I've checked the JGen Town Finder, and the only results are in Poland,
west of Lublin, not near Roumania at all.

The two individuals were born in Keshmer in 1883 and 1884. The
information is on his Declaration of Intention (1920) and Petition for
Naturalization (1922), and the writing is very clear.
Their passenger list says their last residence was [what looks like]
"Rospopeny."

Any thoughts or suggestions?

Happy Holidays!
Hilary Henkin


Romania SIG #Romania Re: Keshmer, Roumania? #romania

David Osachy <osachy@...>
 

Hi Hilary,

My best guess off the top of my head is that this may be a village
that is today known as Caracusenii Vechi, which is located just on the
Moldova side of the current border with Romania. There were a few
Jewish families living there according to the 1897 Russian census, but
it was too small to have its own synagogue or official community. It
would make some sense that "Keshmer" was its Yiddish name, though the
Romanian name clearly has Turkish origins (which is not unusual for
that area), "kara" for example meaning black.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caracu%C8%99enii_Vechi

There are other possibilities as well, such as another very small
village with a similar name (though one that would be a bit less
likely to be known as "Keshmer" in Yiddish) that is in Moldova close
to the current Ukrainian border. There is also the much larger town
of Calarasi in Moldova, about 30 miles east of Iasi, where there
surely was a fair-sized Jewish community and synagogue, etc. I don't
know what that town was called in colloquial Yiddish. Could someone
from there have been known as a "Keshmer"? Maybe...
As the borders changed, it would help to know the year that your
ancestor said his birthplace was Romania (not his birth year) to see
if I am on track with these possibilities.

Good luck,

Rabbi David Osachy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caracu%C8%99enii_Vechi

On 12/24/18, Hilary Henkin hilary@mymishpocha.net
<rom-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org> wrote:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hi all!

I haven't been doing much research lately (Life has a way of intruding
on our hobbies, darn it), but I was checking for a cousin (the other
side of her family), and found 2 ancestors who were born in Keshmer,
Roumania.=C2=A0 Does anyone know of this town, and where it is/what it's
called now?

I've checked the JGen Town Finder, and the only results are in Poland,
west of Lublin, not near Roumania at all.

The two individuals were born in Keshmer in 1883 and 1884. The
information is on his Declaration of Intention (1920) and Petition for
Naturalization (1922), and the writing is very clear.
Their passenger list says their last residence was [what looks like]
"Rospopeny."

Any thoughts or suggestions?

Happy Holidays!
Hilary Henkin


Re: Keshmer, Roumania? #romania

LucR <luc.radu@...>
 

Bessarabia now Republic of Moldova
See
https://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/R=C4=83spopeni,_=C8=98old=C4=83ne=C8=99ti

Luc Radu
Great Neck, NY
On 12/24/18, 9:07 AM, "Romania SIG on behalf of Hilary Henkin
hilary@mymishpocha.net" <rom-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org> wrote:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hi all!

I haven't been doing much research lately (Life has a way of intruding
on our hobbies, darn it), but I was checking for a cousin (the other
side of her family), and found 2 ancestors who were born in Keshmer,
Roumania.=EF=BF=BD Does anyone know of this town, and where it is/what it's
called now?

I've checked the JGen Town Finder, and the only results are in Poland,
west of Lublin, not near Roumania at all.

The two individuals were born in Keshmer in 1883 and 1884. The
information is on his Declaration of Intention (1920) and Petition for
Naturalization (1922), and the writing is very clear.
Their passenger list says their last residence was [what looks like]
"Rospopeny."

Any thoughts or suggestions?

Happy Holidays!
Hilary Henkin


Romania SIG #Romania Re: Keshmer, Roumania? #romania

LucR <luc.radu@...>
 

Bessarabia now Republic of Moldova
See
https://ro.wikipedia.org/wiki/R=C4=83spopeni,_=C8=98old=C4=83ne=C8=99ti

Luc Radu
Great Neck, NY
On 12/24/18, 9:07 AM, "Romania SIG on behalf of Hilary Henkin
hilary@mymishpocha.net" <rom-sig@lyris.jewishgen.org> wrote:

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Hi all!

I haven't been doing much research lately (Life has a way of intruding
on our hobbies, darn it), but I was checking for a cousin (the other
side of her family), and found 2 ancestors who were born in Keshmer,
Roumania.=EF=BF=BD Does anyone know of this town, and where it is/what it's
called now?

I've checked the JGen Town Finder, and the only results are in Poland,
west of Lublin, not near Roumania at all.

The two individuals were born in Keshmer in 1883 and 1884. The
information is on his Declaration of Intention (1920) and Petition for
Naturalization (1922), and the writing is very clear.
Their passenger list says their last residence was [what looks like]
"Rospopeny."

Any thoughts or suggestions?

Happy Holidays!
Hilary Henkin


Is there a restriction on taking photos of headstones (Metzevahs) in French Cemeteries? #france

Jan Meisels Allen
 

In response to a posting I did on JewishGen and IAJGS I was advised that
there is a restriction in France in taking photos of cemetery headstones
in French cemeteries. Can someone in France or someone who is aware of
the practice or prohibition please let me know. What I am trying to find
out is whether prior approval of next of kin or the cemetery is something
in France or an outright ban on taking photos with or without permission
in France.

Thank you

Below is the posting I did:

Genealogists are cemetery-goers. We all do it to record information
for our family histories and we take photographs of the headstones.
Recently, I learned about the problem which may be unique to Western
Australia,but I am not certain so I am asking if anyone, anywhere in
the world, other than Western Australia, is aware of a policy that
before photographing or videoing a cemetery headstone prior approval
by next of kin is required. If you know of such a practice please
let me know.

History
Recently, a posting on an Australian group for Australian Jewish
Genealogy told that the Western Australia Metropolitan Cemeteries
Board put up signs prohibiting photography of graves without consent
of next of kin. This applies to cemeteries in the Perth metro area.
This covers both Jewish cemetery areas in general cemeteries and
non-Jewish municipal cemeteries in Western Australia. While the
stones themselves are in the public domain,prohibiting photography
is a problem for genealogists. The Western Australia Metropolitan
Cemeteries Board charges for taking photographs, but I don't
know if that is what is behind their prohibition of obtaining next
of kin permission. What happens if there is no living next of kin?

According to the Western Australia Metropolitan Cemeteries website
(http://www.mcb.wa.gov.au/) ) they are responsible for 6 cemeteries,
several of which have Jewish sections.
This is the rule >from their bylaws as amended in 1996:

Recording on film or videotape
Substituted
19/1/96 80
(1) A person shall not, without the prior approval of the Board,record
on film or videotape any image or sound within a Cemetery.
(2) A person shall not record on film or videotape a funeral, headstone
or memorial within a Cemetery without the prior approval of the next
of kin of the deceased person whose funeral, headstone or memorial is
being recorded."


Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
janmallen@att.net


French SIG #France Is there a restriction on taking photos of headstones (Metzevahs) in French Cemeteries? #france

Jan Meisels Allen
 

In response to a posting I did on JewishGen and IAJGS I was advised that
there is a restriction in France in taking photos of cemetery headstones
in French cemeteries. Can someone in France or someone who is aware of
the practice or prohibition please let me know. What I am trying to find
out is whether prior approval of next of kin or the cemetery is something
in France or an outright ban on taking photos with or without permission
in France.

Thank you

Below is the posting I did:

Genealogists are cemetery-goers. We all do it to record information
for our family histories and we take photographs of the headstones.
Recently, I learned about the problem which may be unique to Western
Australia,but I am not certain so I am asking if anyone, anywhere in
the world, other than Western Australia, is aware of a policy that
before photographing or videoing a cemetery headstone prior approval
by next of kin is required. If you know of such a practice please
let me know.

History
Recently, a posting on an Australian group for Australian Jewish
Genealogy told that the Western Australia Metropolitan Cemeteries
Board put up signs prohibiting photography of graves without consent
of next of kin. This applies to cemeteries in the Perth metro area.
This covers both Jewish cemetery areas in general cemeteries and
non-Jewish municipal cemeteries in Western Australia. While the
stones themselves are in the public domain,prohibiting photography
is a problem for genealogists. The Western Australia Metropolitan
Cemeteries Board charges for taking photographs, but I don't
know if that is what is behind their prohibition of obtaining next
of kin permission. What happens if there is no living next of kin?

According to the Western Australia Metropolitan Cemeteries website
(http://www.mcb.wa.gov.au/) ) they are responsible for 6 cemeteries,
several of which have Jewish sections.
This is the rule >from their bylaws as amended in 1996:

Recording on film or videotape
Substituted
19/1/96 80
(1) A person shall not, without the prior approval of the Board,record
on film or videotape any image or sound within a Cemetery.
(2) A person shall not record on film or videotape a funeral, headstone
or memorial within a Cemetery without the prior approval of the next
of kin of the deceased person whose funeral, headstone or memorial is
being recorded."


Jan Meisels Allen
Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
janmallen@att.net


Re: Family name KATZOFF - meaning #general

Percy Mett
 

I do not know anything about the lumber trade, but a katzoff is a butcher

Perets Mett
London

On 25 Dec 2018,Yoni Ben-Ari wrote:

Researching the name KATZOFF - with a "kuf" and not a "kaf" we found
that it has to do with people in the lumber trade. Does anyone know of
any other meaning? Origins >from Brest-Litovsk (Brisk).


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Family name KATZOFF - meaning #general

Percy Mett
 

I do not know anything about the lumber trade, but a katzoff is a butcher

Perets Mett
London

On 25 Dec 2018,Yoni Ben-Ari wrote:

Researching the name KATZOFF - with a "kuf" and not a "kaf" we found
that it has to do with people in the lumber trade. Does anyone know of
any other meaning? Origins >from Brest-Litovsk (Brisk).


New and Updated Databases on IGRA's Website #general

Elena Bazes
 

The Israel Genealogy Research Association (IGRA) has just released new
and updated databases on its website. There are over 1,300,000 records
available in our databases. We want to thank the participating
archives and the many volunteers who have prepared these databases.
With each release we provide a variety of records to our collection.

A preview of the databases is available at

https://www.slideshare.net/igra3/dec-2018-igrarelease

New Databases

Tel Aviv Census, Mahlul Neighborhood 1928 1,038 listings

Information available include family name, first name, name of father,
age, profession and address -- Hebrew. >from the Historical Municipal
Archives of Tel Aviv-Yafo (Images available)

Internees in Occupied Territories 1941-2 195 listings

The forms are in Latin characters and include the name, age, amount of
monthly relief received, the camp they were in, the last permanent
address of record and nearest relatives or friends of British Subjects
(Palestinian) interned in occupied France. >from the Israel State
Archives. (Images available)

Secret Fleet 275 listings

This is part of our Illegal Immigration collection. The names are in
English. The list comes >from "The Jews' Secret Fleet" by Murray S.
Greenfield and Joseph M. Hochstein, Gefen Publishing House Ltd, 2010-
"This is the dramatic story of the rescue of Jews >from Europe after
World War II by North American Jewish volunteers. These men and their
ships smashed through the British blockade and brought thousands of
refugees to safe haven in Palestine." (No images)

Altalena 1948 363 listings

These are lists of those who were immigrants on the Altalena. The
information available (in Latin characters) includes the name (first
and last), date of birth, city and country of birth. >from the
Jabotinsky Institute in Israel (Images available)

Egged Employees 1949 289 listings

Information available: family name, first name, address, sometimes a
signature. >from the Egged Bus Co. Historical Archive -- Hebrew (Images
available)

Updated Databases

Palestine Marriage/Divorce Certificates
2,618 listings

Additional marriage/divorce certificates have been added to this
impressive database. These certificates may be typed or handwritten
and include names of bride and groom, their residence, the community
they belong to, their age and their occupation. It also includes
information names of the parents, their occupation and where they
live. >from the Israel State Archives (Images available)

"Operation on Eagles Wings", January 1950 2,138 Listings

The names of the individuals participating in this extraordinary
Aliyah are available and there is information about where they came
from, the camp they were in, and some identifying information. There
is a link at the bottom of the page which will take you to the pages
with much more additional data. >from the JDC Archives (No images)

1963 Telephone Directory, Letters P-Q, second half of S 4,378 Listings

The phone book is in English and the available information includes
the name, address and phone number and possibly more. >from the Library
of Congress (Images available)

Voter List – Knesset Israel, Tel Aviv, (Appendix A, Letters tzadi - tuf)
1936 29,370 Listings

The data available includes the name of the father, the age of the
voter, sex of the individual, the community they were affiliated with
and where they lived at that time. This database is in Hebrew. From
the Historical Municipal Archives of Tel Aviv-Yaffo (Images
available.)

Please note, the IGRA databases are now searchable to all registrants.
The search results page is also available to all registrants.
Additional details regarding most databases are available only to paid
IGRA members. Certain exceptions exist due to requests of the specific
archives.

Before viewing the databases, please register for free on the IGRA website:

http://genealogy.org.il/

To view the databases, go to

https://genealogy.org.il/AID/

Elena Biegel Bazes
IGRA Publicity Chairperson


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen New and Updated Databases on IGRA's Website #general

Elena Bazes
 

The Israel Genealogy Research Association (IGRA) has just released new
and updated databases on its website. There are over 1,300,000 records
available in our databases. We want to thank the participating
archives and the many volunteers who have prepared these databases.
With each release we provide a variety of records to our collection.

A preview of the databases is available at

https://www.slideshare.net/igra3/dec-2018-igrarelease

New Databases

Tel Aviv Census, Mahlul Neighborhood 1928 1,038 listings

Information available include family name, first name, name of father,
age, profession and address -- Hebrew. >from the Historical Municipal
Archives of Tel Aviv-Yafo (Images available)

Internees in Occupied Territories 1941-2 195 listings

The forms are in Latin characters and include the name, age, amount of
monthly relief received, the camp they were in, the last permanent
address of record and nearest relatives or friends of British Subjects
(Palestinian) interned in occupied France. >from the Israel State
Archives. (Images available)

Secret Fleet 275 listings

This is part of our Illegal Immigration collection. The names are in
English. The list comes >from "The Jews' Secret Fleet" by Murray S.
Greenfield and Joseph M. Hochstein, Gefen Publishing House Ltd, 2010-
"This is the dramatic story of the rescue of Jews >from Europe after
World War II by North American Jewish volunteers. These men and their
ships smashed through the British blockade and brought thousands of
refugees to safe haven in Palestine." (No images)

Altalena 1948 363 listings

These are lists of those who were immigrants on the Altalena. The
information available (in Latin characters) includes the name (first
and last), date of birth, city and country of birth. >from the
Jabotinsky Institute in Israel (Images available)

Egged Employees 1949 289 listings

Information available: family name, first name, address, sometimes a
signature. >from the Egged Bus Co. Historical Archive -- Hebrew (Images
available)

Updated Databases

Palestine Marriage/Divorce Certificates
2,618 listings

Additional marriage/divorce certificates have been added to this
impressive database. These certificates may be typed or handwritten
and include names of bride and groom, their residence, the community
they belong to, their age and their occupation. It also includes
information names of the parents, their occupation and where they
live. >from the Israel State Archives (Images available)

"Operation on Eagles Wings", January 1950 2,138 Listings

The names of the individuals participating in this extraordinary
Aliyah are available and there is information about where they came
from, the camp they were in, and some identifying information. There
is a link at the bottom of the page which will take you to the pages
with much more additional data. >from the JDC Archives (No images)

1963 Telephone Directory, Letters P-Q, second half of S 4,378 Listings

The phone book is in English and the available information includes
the name, address and phone number and possibly more. >from the Library
of Congress (Images available)

Voter List – Knesset Israel, Tel Aviv, (Appendix A, Letters tzadi - tuf)
1936 29,370 Listings

The data available includes the name of the father, the age of the
voter, sex of the individual, the community they were affiliated with
and where they lived at that time. This database is in Hebrew. From
the Historical Municipal Archives of Tel Aviv-Yaffo (Images
available.)

Please note, the IGRA databases are now searchable to all registrants.
The search results page is also available to all registrants.
Additional details regarding most databases are available only to paid
IGRA members. Certain exceptions exist due to requests of the specific
archives.

Before viewing the databases, please register for free on the IGRA website:

http://genealogy.org.il/

To view the databases, go to

https://genealogy.org.il/AID/

Elena Biegel Bazes
IGRA Publicity Chairperson


Bavarian anti-Semitism #germany

Diana da Costa
 

Over the years I heard it said that
a) Bavaria, even prior to the Nazification of Germany, had been for a long
time one of the most systemically anti-Semitic parts of what was, under
Bismarck, to become Germany.
b) As a consequence, partly through Streicher's activities in Nuremberg, the
Nuremberg rallies, the murder/assassination of Dr. Rudolf Benario in April
1933 - Jews >from Bavaria, were perhaps better forewarned, left earlier than
Jews in other parts of Germany and proportionately less perished.

Is this true or myth? I should be most grateful to hear GerSIG views.

With all good wishes for 2019,

Diana (Mohr) Gomes da Costa, Kent UK - formerly >from London -
Researcher number: 166938 email: dianadacosta@btinternet.com

Researches include ARNSTEIN, BACH, BASS, BERLIN, COHN, DITTMANN, FLACHFELD,
GUETERMANN, HAHN, HELLMANN, HIRSCHMANN, KOHN, KRAILSHEIMER, KUGLER, LOEWI,
MANES, MARX, MENDEL, MORGENTHAU, MOHR, ROSENFELD, ROSENWALD, UHLMANN,
WEIKERSHEIMER and ZIRNDORFER - all originally >from Bavaria, mainly Furth,
Nurnberg and Bamberg as listed in the JGFF database.


German SIG #Germany Bavarian anti-Semitism #germany

Diana da Costa
 

Over the years I heard it said that
a) Bavaria, even prior to the Nazification of Germany, had been for a long
time one of the most systemically anti-Semitic parts of what was, under
Bismarck, to become Germany.
b) As a consequence, partly through Streicher's activities in Nuremberg, the
Nuremberg rallies, the murder/assassination of Dr. Rudolf Benario in April
1933 - Jews >from Bavaria, were perhaps better forewarned, left earlier than
Jews in other parts of Germany and proportionately less perished.

Is this true or myth? I should be most grateful to hear GerSIG views.

With all good wishes for 2019,

Diana (Mohr) Gomes da Costa, Kent UK - formerly >from London -
Researcher number: 166938 email: dianadacosta@btinternet.com

Researches include ARNSTEIN, BACH, BASS, BERLIN, COHN, DITTMANN, FLACHFELD,
GUETERMANN, HAHN, HELLMANN, HIRSCHMANN, KOHN, KRAILSHEIMER, KUGLER, LOEWI,
MANES, MARX, MENDEL, MORGENTHAU, MOHR, ROSENFELD, ROSENWALD, UHLMANN,
WEIKERSHEIMER and ZIRNDORFER - all originally >from Bavaria, mainly Furth,
Nurnberg and Bamberg as listed in the JGFF database.


Missing documents from Posen #germany

Jeremy Lichtman <jeremy@...>
 

I've been trying to trace what happened to the Jewish
birth/marriage/death aktas (documents) >from an area of (today) western
Poland for some time. The Kreis (district) of Turek, which is a little
to the east of Kalisz, has few documents of this nature remaining.

I recently discovered a WW2 era document, written in German, in the
Polish archives. It details the existing records for several towns in
the district (Dobra, Tuliszkow, Turek, Uniejow, Wladyslawow) as of 1943.

There are several letters >from 1942/1943 also attached. One acknowledges
receipt in the town of Posen of the registers. Two more >from 1943 (I
think >from the district court, but not sure where that was) ask why
three boxes containing the listed records had not been shipped yet, and
then in response various excuses. A scan of the entire thing can be
found here:
https://searcharchives.pl/53/801/0/14.38/280/str/1/1/15#tabSkany

My question is thus: assuming that those documents were ultimately
shipped somewhere, what would have happened to them? Were they
destroyed? Misplaced? Sitting in a back room of the Berlin archives? How
would I go about tracing them, assuming they're still extant (and given
that this document appears to list specific inventory numbers for the
boxes)?

Finding them would be a major genealogical breakthrough for potentially
thousands of families originating in that area.

Regards, Jeremy Lichtman, Toronto, Canada

Researching WARTSKI and COHEN >from Turek and eastern Posen


German SIG #Germany Missing documents from Posen #germany

Jeremy Lichtman <jeremy@...>
 

I've been trying to trace what happened to the Jewish
birth/marriage/death aktas (documents) >from an area of (today) western
Poland for some time. The Kreis (district) of Turek, which is a little
to the east of Kalisz, has few documents of this nature remaining.

I recently discovered a WW2 era document, written in German, in the
Polish archives. It details the existing records for several towns in
the district (Dobra, Tuliszkow, Turek, Uniejow, Wladyslawow) as of 1943.

There are several letters >from 1942/1943 also attached. One acknowledges
receipt in the town of Posen of the registers. Two more >from 1943 (I
think >from the district court, but not sure where that was) ask why
three boxes containing the listed records had not been shipped yet, and
then in response various excuses. A scan of the entire thing can be
found here:
https://searcharchives.pl/53/801/0/14.38/280/str/1/1/15#tabSkany

My question is thus: assuming that those documents were ultimately
shipped somewhere, what would have happened to them? Were they
destroyed? Misplaced? Sitting in a back room of the Berlin archives? How
would I go about tracing them, assuming they're still extant (and given
that this document appears to list specific inventory numbers for the
boxes)?

Finding them would be a major genealogical breakthrough for potentially
thousands of families originating in that area.

Regards, Jeremy Lichtman, Toronto, Canada

Researching WARTSKI and COHEN >from Turek and eastern Posen

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