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Trying to locate Josh Hurwitz #general

Sdehaaff@...
 

I've located some information connecting Jacob Eli Hurwitz to our family.
If you are Josh Hurwitz whose email address was formerly at Mindspring, please
contact us. That's the last email address we had for you.
Thanks,
Stuart de Haaff
Jewish Farming in Early 20th Century Connecticut #general

Shawn Weil
 

Jewish Genners-

PBS's "History Detectives" just had a fascinating segment on early
20th century Jewish farming in Connecticut. My wife's family, the
LIFSCHUTZ family, farmed in East Haddam, CT and then in
Uncasville/Montville, CT. They had the farm in Uncasville for decades
between 1905 and 1955.

My questions:

1. Can anyone point me to some good references about these farms?
2. Are there other Jewish Genners who's family settled in or passed
through these towns?
3. Are there current residents of these towns who know anything about
the Jewish farmers in the area?

Thank you

Shawn Weil
Melrose, MA

WEIL, WAHL, WOHL, ABRAMOWITZ >from Dzikow (Tarnebrzeg), Poland; NYC
TELLES, TELEFUS, FISHERMAN >from Khotin, Ukraine; Israel; NYC
BIRNBERG, >from Medzhibozh & Khotin, Ukraine; UK; Argentina; NYC
GOLDER, MOSKOWITZ, LIEBOWITZ, FIBISH >from Romania; Brazil; Israel; NYC
BROITMAN, DARISH >from Ukraine; NYC; GLANTZ, LAMPERT >from Phila., PA;
http://www.tangerinecrafts.com/Personal/genealogy.htm
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Trying to locate Josh Hurwitz #general

Sdehaaff@...
 

I've located some information connecting Jacob Eli Hurwitz to our family.
If you are Josh Hurwitz whose email address was formerly at Mindspring, please
contact us. That's the last email address we had for you.
Thanks,
Stuart de Haaff
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jewish Farming in Early 20th Century Connecticut #general

Shawn Weil
 

Jewish Genners-

PBS's "History Detectives" just had a fascinating segment on early
20th century Jewish farming in Connecticut. My wife's family, the
LIFSCHUTZ family, farmed in East Haddam, CT and then in
Uncasville/Montville, CT. They had the farm in Uncasville for decades
between 1905 and 1955.

My questions:

1. Can anyone point me to some good references about these farms?
2. Are there other Jewish Genners who's family settled in or passed
through these towns?
3. Are there current residents of these towns who know anything about
the Jewish farmers in the area?

Thank you

Shawn Weil
Melrose, MA

WEIL, WAHL, WOHL, ABRAMOWITZ >from Dzikow (Tarnebrzeg), Poland; NYC
TELLES, TELEFUS, FISHERMAN >from Khotin, Ukraine; Israel; NYC
BIRNBERG, >from Medzhibozh & Khotin, Ukraine; UK; Argentina; NYC
GOLDER, MOSKOWITZ, LIEBOWITZ, FIBISH >from Romania; Brazil; Israel; NYC
BROITMAN, DARISH >from Ukraine; NYC; GLANTZ, LAMPERT >from Phila., PA;
http://www.tangerinecrafts.com/Personal/genealogy.htm
Re: New member. "Am I Jewish?" Seeking truth of my heritage. #general

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

I am going to repeat something I have said a number of times before on this
subject and on this digest.

First and foremost, do not worry about finding what may be non-existent
Jewish roots. Research your Family. Get all the documents you can on the
oldest family members, interview family members, if you can, and generally
do your homework first.

There are many general on-line databases which have census records and other
pieces of information to help document your family. These include those of
JewishGen's new partner, Ancestry.com. Use these tools as that is what they
are there for.

In this particular case, where there are no particular stories or incidents
relating to someone being Jewish, my feeling is that the grandmother's
mental illness was what caused the split in the family and not her ethnic
origins which appear to be Germanic.

The names you provided are generally non-Jewish Germanic names and you
should perhaps followup this lead, particularly with the Mormon Family
History Center records.

Good luck in your search!

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net
Census Dates and Census Headings #general

egrdn@...
 

In a message dated 9/10/2008 12:08:37 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, Allan
Jordan writes:

"In July 1920 his sister immigrates and she says she is going to her
brother in Detroit, Michigan but I did not find them in the 1920 Federal
Census."

My response:

The 1920 U.S. Census was taken in January, so his sister would not have been
in the U.S. at that time. There are several websites which show census
dates and census headings. Here are a few I have found useful:

For the U.S.:
http://www.eogen.com/USFederalCensusDates

For the U.K.:
http://www.familiesunearthed.com/census-dates.htm

Missing U.S. Censuses:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~troutt/~troutt/Miscellaneous
/MissingCensus.htm

U.S. Census Headings:
http://www.skpub.com/genie/headings/

Eleanor Gordon
California
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: New member. "Am I Jewish?" Seeking truth of my heritage. #general

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

I am going to repeat something I have said a number of times before on this
subject and on this digest.

First and foremost, do not worry about finding what may be non-existent
Jewish roots. Research your Family. Get all the documents you can on the
oldest family members, interview family members, if you can, and generally
do your homework first.

There are many general on-line databases which have census records and other
pieces of information to help document your family. These include those of
JewishGen's new partner, Ancestry.com. Use these tools as that is what they
are there for.

In this particular case, where there are no particular stories or incidents
relating to someone being Jewish, my feeling is that the grandmother's
mental illness was what caused the split in the family and not her ethnic
origins which appear to be Germanic.

The names you provided are generally non-Jewish Germanic names and you
should perhaps followup this lead, particularly with the Mormon Family
History Center records.

Good luck in your search!

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Census Dates and Census Headings #general

egrdn@...
 

In a message dated 9/10/2008 12:08:37 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, Allan
Jordan writes:

"In July 1920 his sister immigrates and she says she is going to her
brother in Detroit, Michigan but I did not find them in the 1920 Federal
Census."

My response:

The 1920 U.S. Census was taken in January, so his sister would not have been
in the U.S. at that time. There are several websites which show census
dates and census headings. Here are a few I have found useful:

For the U.S.:
http://www.eogen.com/USFederalCensusDates

For the U.K.:
http://www.familiesunearthed.com/census-dates.htm

Missing U.S. Censuses:
http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~troutt/~troutt/Miscellaneous
/MissingCensus.htm

U.S. Census Headings:
http://www.skpub.com/genie/headings/

Eleanor Gordon
California
Francis Louis BAMBERGER #germany

Bob & Lorraine Sidgwick <clipper811@...>
 

I am trying to trace my great great grandfather, known in England as Francis
Louis BAMBERGER. He was a German Jew who converted upon arrival in England .

from various census in England I have calculated his birth as 1825, probably
before April 7th of that year.
from his marriage certificate in England in 1855 his father's name is given
as Henerish (Heinrich) a merchant.
The other information that we have is that he was of a prominent banking family
The UK census of 1871 says he was born Silesia. This is the only census that
has a place. The others all say Germany. It may be the truth or not?
We do not believe he naturalized in England

I have found the family of Jakob BAMBERGER and August BAMBERGER of Mainz.
Did Jakob have a brother Henerish (Heinrich)?
I have also found the following information on Lemle Lob BAMBERGER and this
may be encouraging.

Does anyone have more information on these 2 families that may be of help to
me please? Thanks for the help!

Lorraine Sidgwick Sydney, Australia <clipper811@bigpond.com>


Lemle Lob Bamberger arrived in Frankfurt >from Furth in 1762. He was a =
banker
with an extensive money changing business. During the 4 years 1763-1766 =
he,
together with Moses Oppenheimer, made a total of 245,327 guilders. In =
1773
he and Isaac Buchsbaum launched a company dealing in chintz and calico.
In March 1776 the Royal and Imperial Supreme Command Commissariat =
contracted
with him to supply bread to the Imperial recruits. Originally the =
contract
was for one year, but it was renewed over many years and he became both
supplier and banker to the Imperial recruiting officers in Frankfurt. He
married Fradche, a daughter of Samuel Henle Schuster, and died in 1794.
=A0
2 SONS: (at his death)
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Heinrich Ludwig Bamberger (1772-1820) was =
an exchange broker. He
married Amalie Haas after 1796.=A0=20

=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 SONS:=20
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Theodor (fl 1830) was an exchange broker =
in the Langenstrasse who
died in 1850=20
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=20
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Leopold (fl1866) was also an exchange =
broker in the Langenstrasse
=A0
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Anton Ludwig Bamberger (fl 1808)
German SIG #Germany Francis Louis BAMBERGER #germany

Bob & Lorraine Sidgwick <clipper811@...>
 

I am trying to trace my great great grandfather, known in England as Francis
Louis BAMBERGER. He was a German Jew who converted upon arrival in England .

from various census in England I have calculated his birth as 1825, probably
before April 7th of that year.
from his marriage certificate in England in 1855 his father's name is given
as Henerish (Heinrich) a merchant.
The other information that we have is that he was of a prominent banking family
The UK census of 1871 says he was born Silesia. This is the only census that
has a place. The others all say Germany. It may be the truth or not?
We do not believe he naturalized in England

I have found the family of Jakob BAMBERGER and August BAMBERGER of Mainz.
Did Jakob have a brother Henerish (Heinrich)?
I have also found the following information on Lemle Lob BAMBERGER and this
may be encouraging.

Does anyone have more information on these 2 families that may be of help to
me please? Thanks for the help!

Lorraine Sidgwick Sydney, Australia <clipper811@bigpond.com>


Lemle Lob Bamberger arrived in Frankfurt >from Furth in 1762. He was a =
banker
with an extensive money changing business. During the 4 years 1763-1766 =
he,
together with Moses Oppenheimer, made a total of 245,327 guilders. In =
1773
he and Isaac Buchsbaum launched a company dealing in chintz and calico.
In March 1776 the Royal and Imperial Supreme Command Commissariat =
contracted
with him to supply bread to the Imperial recruits. Originally the =
contract
was for one year, but it was renewed over many years and he became both
supplier and banker to the Imperial recruiting officers in Frankfurt. He
married Fradche, a daughter of Samuel Henle Schuster, and died in 1794.
=A0
2 SONS: (at his death)
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Heinrich Ludwig Bamberger (1772-1820) was =
an exchange broker. He
married Amalie Haas after 1796.=A0=20

=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 SONS:=20
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Theodor (fl 1830) was an exchange broker =
in the Langenstrasse who
died in 1850=20
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=20
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 Leopold (fl1866) was also an exchange =
broker in the Langenstrasse
=A0
=A0=A0=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0=A0=A0Anton Ludwig Bamberger (fl 1808)
Mt Hebron headstone photo #general

Bobby Furst <bobby1st@...>
 

If you are going to Mt Hebron cemetery (LI, NY) in the near future and
can take a photo of 2 headstones (same plot) please contact me off list.

Thanks in advance,
Bobby Furst
bobby1st@gmail.com
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Mt Hebron headstone photo #general

Bobby Furst <bobby1st@...>
 

If you are going to Mt Hebron cemetery (LI, NY) in the near future and
can take a photo of 2 headstones (same plot) please contact me off list.

Thanks in advance,
Bobby Furst
bobby1st@gmail.com
ShtetlSchleppers trips to Latvia #latvia

Howard Margol
 

<<From: Mr John Wilton <johnwilton@yahoo.co.uk>
I was hoping to make a trip to Latvia next year with the ShtetlSchleppers
organisation. However, for the last few months searching for them on the
JewishGen website just produces a message saying:
"The ShtetlSchleppers site is under contruction."
Does anyone know if they are still functioning or how I can get in touch
with them?>>

It is my understanding that Jewishgen is no longer offering ShtetlSchleppers
trips.

Howard Margol
Atlanta, Georgia, USA





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Latvia SIG #Latvia ShtetlSchleppers trips to Latvia #latvia

Howard Margol
 

<<From: Mr John Wilton <johnwilton@yahoo.co.uk>
I was hoping to make a trip to Latvia next year with the ShtetlSchleppers
organisation. However, for the last few months searching for them on the
JewishGen website just produces a message saying:
"The ShtetlSchleppers site is under contruction."
Does anyone know if they are still functioning or how I can get in touch
with them?>>

It is my understanding that Jewishgen is no longer offering ShtetlSchleppers
trips.

Howard Margol
Atlanta, Georgia, USA





**************Psssst...Have you heard the news? There's a new fashion blog,
plus the latest fall trends and hair styles at StyleList.com.
(http://www.stylelist.com/trends?ncid=aolsty00050000000014)
Grodno Voters List 1912, Qualifications to Vote? #belarus

Yefim Briskman <efimbriskman@...>
 

If I'm not mistaken, only people who owned any kind of property(houses,
apartments, business, or land) could vote.

Yefim Briskman
Russia



"I found my great great grandfather, Aaron STARINSKY, in the Grodno Gubernia
1912 Voters List. At the time, he was living in Pruzhany, Belarus. I am
trying to find out what qualified him to be able to vote. My family
believes that he was some kind of captain in the Russian Navy. Would this
qualify him to be able to vote?"

Blake FLEISHER
Belarus SIG #Belarus Grodno Voters List 1912, Qualifications to Vote? #belarus

Yefim Briskman <efimbriskman@...>
 

If I'm not mistaken, only people who owned any kind of property(houses,
apartments, business, or land) could vote.

Yefim Briskman
Russia



"I found my great great grandfather, Aaron STARINSKY, in the Grodno Gubernia
1912 Voters List. At the time, he was living in Pruzhany, Belarus. I am
trying to find out what qualified him to be able to vote. My family
believes that he was some kind of captain in the Russian Navy. Would this
qualify him to be able to vote?"

Blake FLEISHER
Re: Noga and possible origin #unitedkingdom

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 9/10/2008 5:13:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
_slevy@jalcomputer.com.au_ (mailto:slevy@jalcomputer.com.au) writes:

To answer your questions about my name query, I forgot to mention that my
mother had told me her father changed his name because he didn't like the
connotation of 'foot'. But it's a pleasant thought that it also means a
shining light. I never knew him - he died suddenly in his early 60s, a year
before my parents met.

==Noga is a fairly popular name for women in Israel. Its contemporary
(and historical) meaning is Venus (the planet). The glimmer/glitter
meaning is rarely seen outside of prayerbooks or hi-faluting poetry.

It is always a good idea to search jewishgen's shtettel database. I looked
up NOGA as a word beginner for locations in Eastern Europe. There are 24
entries, starting with:

Nogachevka, Ukraine;
Nogaevo/ Nagaâ??yeva, Russia;
Nogaisk/Primorskoye, Ukraine;
Nogale, Croatia
Nogale/Myza Nogale, Latvia

Each of these locations has a variety of spellings and variant names. I've
listed just two of each, separated by a dash.. Geographic sources are
among the most popular for Jewish surnames. When someone new
arrived in a town or village, he was soon known as Chaim Wiener,
Moshe Radom or Hanna Wiener, i.e. after his/her hometown.

That does not suggest that your grandfather was >from Venus.

Michael Bernet, New York
mbernet@aol.com
JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Re: Noga and possible origin #unitedkingdom

MBernet@...
 

In a message dated 9/10/2008 5:13:59 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
_slevy@jalcomputer.com.au_ (mailto:slevy@jalcomputer.com.au) writes:

To answer your questions about my name query, I forgot to mention that my
mother had told me her father changed his name because he didn't like the
connotation of 'foot'. But it's a pleasant thought that it also means a
shining light. I never knew him - he died suddenly in his early 60s, a year
before my parents met.

==Noga is a fairly popular name for women in Israel. Its contemporary
(and historical) meaning is Venus (the planet). The glimmer/glitter
meaning is rarely seen outside of prayerbooks or hi-faluting poetry.

It is always a good idea to search jewishgen's shtettel database. I looked
up NOGA as a word beginner for locations in Eastern Europe. There are 24
entries, starting with:

Nogachevka, Ukraine;
Nogaevo/ Nagaâ??yeva, Russia;
Nogaisk/Primorskoye, Ukraine;
Nogale, Croatia
Nogale/Myza Nogale, Latvia

Each of these locations has a variety of spellings and variant names. I've
listed just two of each, separated by a dash.. Geographic sources are
among the most popular for Jewish surnames. When someone new
arrived in a town or village, he was soon known as Chaim Wiener,
Moshe Radom or Hanna Wiener, i.e. after his/her hometown.

That does not suggest that your grandfather was >from Venus.

Michael Bernet, New York
mbernet@aol.com
Researching FUCHSBALG and Other Spellings of that Surname #galicia

Milton Goldsamt
 

Might I suggest your also checking a similar name, in my wife's
family; FUCHSBERG? Or to put it more broadly, you might need to
check more than just the exact spelling of FUCHSBALG (if that's
what you've been doing).

Best of luck,

Milton Goldsamt, Silver Spring, MD
miltrgold@comcast.net
Oliver Bryk <oliverbryk@comcast.net> wrote:

My great-great-grandmother's maiden name was Rosalia FUCHSBALG; she
was born in Rzeszow, Galicia. FUCHSBALG is not a common name. I have
not had any success in researching her ancestry....
Polish and Galitizianer Jews Who Settled in Providence, RI in the Late 1800s #galicia

Linda Shefler
 

According to a story told to me many years ago by an elderly
relative, my gg grandfather Haim Naftali (Henry) ROSENBLATT was
responsible for bringing many of the first Chassidic Jews to
Providence, RI. >from an historical perspective I would be curious
to find out who some of these families might have been and if they
were actually relatives of Henry's.

Henry initially settled in Pittsburgh, PA in 1871 where his brother
had settled several years earlier. Sometime between 1883-1885 he
moved to Providence.

In 1889 Henry's first wife died and he went back to Europe for a new
wife. His second wife died in 1893 and he went back to Europe again
for another new wife. According to what I was told, the women in
America weren't religious enough for him.

Henry also had a problem with the merchants in Providence. As I
understand it, none of them were up to his standards of kosher, so
on his trips back to Europe, he encouraged various merchants to
immigrate to Providence. According to my relative, when she was
young her mother would point out the butcher shop and say;
"Grandfather Henry brought that family to America to be his butcher".
The same was true with many other merchants.

I did manage to find one manifest for Yekhiel (Chil) GLICKSTEIN who
immigrated in 1901 and listed his destination as his cousin Henry
ROSENBLATT in Providence. Yekhiel was >from Olkusz, the town of
Henry's mother's family.

I would be interested in hearing >from others whose families were
Chassidic and settled in Providence anytime >from the mid 1880s until
the early turn-of-the-century. I am not exactly sure what towns they
would have been from; some possibilities include: Olkusz, Checiny,
Bedzin, Sosnowiec, Sobkow, Czestochowa and vicinity.

Thanks for your time.

Linda Silverman Shefler
Formerly of Cary, NC
Presently of Moshav Mishmeret
linda.shefler@gmail.com
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