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Finding SHACTER #general

burton shacter <bshacter@...>
 

Summary: Harry came >from Grading Russian in about 1908 to Minneapolis
Minnesota. He had relatives in Grading whom we have
According to a cousin in the US she tried to meet with children of his
family about 25 years ago and wasn't allowed to see them.
She is now too old to remember of them. Does anyone know if Grading
still exists and where it is?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Finding SHACTER #general

burton shacter <bshacter@...>
 

Summary: Harry came >from Grading Russian in about 1908 to Minneapolis
Minnesota. He had relatives in Grading whom we have
According to a cousin in the US she tried to meet with children of his
family about 25 years ago and wasn't allowed to see them.
She is now too old to remember of them. Does anyone know if Grading
still exists and where it is?


Jewish Costume #general

Saul Issroff <saul@...>
 

A brief History of Jewish Dress. Ruth M. Green. London: Safira, 2001. isbn
09521141 2 7

A History of Jewish Costume. Alfred Rubens. New York: Crown. 1967, 1973.
isbn 0-517 503921.

There are also very good sections in the Universal Jewish Encyclopedia and
in Encyclopedia Judaica.

Saul Issroff (London)

<Books on costume
From: <elisal@...> Thu, 11 Aug 2005
... I am looking for a good historical book
on costume for 19th - early 20th century costume for Eastern Europeans and
immigrants to the US.

- Elisa Lewak>.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jewish Costume #general

Saul Issroff <saul@...>
 

A brief History of Jewish Dress. Ruth M. Green. London: Safira, 2001. isbn
09521141 2 7

A History of Jewish Costume. Alfred Rubens. New York: Crown. 1967, 1973.
isbn 0-517 503921.

There are also very good sections in the Universal Jewish Encyclopedia and
in Encyclopedia Judaica.

Saul Issroff (London)

<Books on costume
From: <elisal@...> Thu, 11 Aug 2005
... I am looking for a good historical book
on costume for 19th - early 20th century costume for Eastern Europeans and
immigrants to the US.

- Elisa Lewak>.


Re: An amazing website! Steven Spielberg! -- particularly interesting to Lithuania researchers #general

Todd Brody
 

There is an amazing home video of Lithuania t theis
website that is about ten minutes long. I was
wondering if anyone who is familiar with Lithuania can
identify the small shetyls in the beginning of the
film. I sent an email to the archives and they said
that the towns had not been identified in the film.
It looks like it could be Telz (based upon pictures I
have seen of Telz) but who knows.

In one of the scenes, there is a quick flash on what
appears to be either a yeshiva or a shul and you can
see the writing at the top (that presumably would
identify the building) but it is literally two seconds
long and when I tried to freeze that frame, I could
not get a good look at the writing.


--- "Beryl. B" <balden@...> wrote:
Something to look at when you have time to spare........
they are very interesting sites.

Great site. Click the link below and you'll have
Spielberg film archives on Israel at your disposal.
You'll see films on Israel >from 1911 onward.
http://www.spielbergfilmarchive.org.il/kv/5cat.html
Beryl Baleson
Israel.
balde@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: An amazing website! Steven Spielberg! -- particularly interesting to Lithuania researchers #general

Todd Brody
 

There is an amazing home video of Lithuania t theis
website that is about ten minutes long. I was
wondering if anyone who is familiar with Lithuania can
identify the small shetyls in the beginning of the
film. I sent an email to the archives and they said
that the towns had not been identified in the film.
It looks like it could be Telz (based upon pictures I
have seen of Telz) but who knows.

In one of the scenes, there is a quick flash on what
appears to be either a yeshiva or a shul and you can
see the writing at the top (that presumably would
identify the building) but it is literally two seconds
long and when I tried to freeze that frame, I could
not get a good look at the writing.


--- "Beryl. B" <balden@...> wrote:
Something to look at when you have time to spare........
they are very interesting sites.

Great site. Click the link below and you'll have
Spielberg film archives on Israel at your disposal.
You'll see films on Israel >from 1911 onward.
http://www.spielbergfilmarchive.org.il/kv/5cat.html
Beryl Baleson
Israel.
balde@...


Re: Publishing Genealogies #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 04:03:12 UTC, tome1111@... (TE) opined:

Rachel,
Rather than publish info about your ancestors, on the internet, you should
consider finding people who are researching your same town. Network with
them and come up with a way to get more information about your town and
family. Volunteer for town projects. This would be a much better use of
your time.
That is one avenue; publication is another. To say that the above is a
better use of time is both sweeping and unsubstantiated.

By offering info about your relatives, freely, how will you discriminate
between people who are legitimate potential relatives, and thieves who just
want to know more about you. I think you are putting your privacy and that
of your relatives at great risk.

Personal information is no one else's business. Protect yourself against
identity theft. Don't publish genealogies.
Like most sweeping and unqualified statements and admonitions, this
one is open to debate. For example, there is nothing in the above
about what "publish" means. It would certainly be foolish and
impertinent to publish a genealogy with a lot of narrative about how
living persons have been spending their time since leaving school or
even before, with addresses and all the rest. On the other hand, a
tree containing no identifying material, no addresses, but only names
and at most dates/places of birth/marriage/death is pretty risk-free
-- especially when one recalls that virtually all identity theft is
done with information obtained through publicly available sources.
Harvesting identities >from published family trees is not the most
productive way for an identity thief to spend his time.

My ID card, containing only information of public record, contains my
parents' names. I have to show this card to various people fairly
frequently; is the Government putting me at risk? When I am called up
to the Torah, my father's name is announced in public; should I ask
the gabai to mumble inaudibly when he does that? There are countries
in which one's patronymic is a standard part of the way people are
addressed, so that the father's name is known to everyone within
earshot; is such a society playing with fire?

There is a large dose of paranoia in the claim that listing of such
information on the 'Net is dangerous. An admittedly extreme example:
In my database of about 3600 persons living and dead, one of the very
few protests (two) was >from a person whose surname (a typically
Anglo-Saxon one, not identifiably Jewish) is represented by tens of
thousands of men in the US alone, and no doubt a similar number in
the rest of the English-speaking world; his given name is borne by
many thousands of Welshman. There is no way that anyone could identify
him >from what is on my website -- even if anybody were looking for him
there. Is he at risk? Because his mother's name is also there, and
because he may be so foolish as to use his mother's name as a password
at the bank?

Use your head about what you publish. A properly limited publication
is no risk. If you want the narrative, keep it separate.

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the
URL is:
http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address
is not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the
URL above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form
there.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Publishing Genealogies #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

On Fri, 12 Aug 2005 04:03:12 UTC, tome1111@... (TE) opined:

Rachel,
Rather than publish info about your ancestors, on the internet, you should
consider finding people who are researching your same town. Network with
them and come up with a way to get more information about your town and
family. Volunteer for town projects. This would be a much better use of
your time.
That is one avenue; publication is another. To say that the above is a
better use of time is both sweeping and unsubstantiated.

By offering info about your relatives, freely, how will you discriminate
between people who are legitimate potential relatives, and thieves who just
want to know more about you. I think you are putting your privacy and that
of your relatives at great risk.

Personal information is no one else's business. Protect yourself against
identity theft. Don't publish genealogies.
Like most sweeping and unqualified statements and admonitions, this
one is open to debate. For example, there is nothing in the above
about what "publish" means. It would certainly be foolish and
impertinent to publish a genealogy with a lot of narrative about how
living persons have been spending their time since leaving school or
even before, with addresses and all the rest. On the other hand, a
tree containing no identifying material, no addresses, but only names
and at most dates/places of birth/marriage/death is pretty risk-free
-- especially when one recalls that virtually all identity theft is
done with information obtained through publicly available sources.
Harvesting identities >from published family trees is not the most
productive way for an identity thief to spend his time.

My ID card, containing only information of public record, contains my
parents' names. I have to show this card to various people fairly
frequently; is the Government putting me at risk? When I am called up
to the Torah, my father's name is announced in public; should I ask
the gabai to mumble inaudibly when he does that? There are countries
in which one's patronymic is a standard part of the way people are
addressed, so that the father's name is known to everyone within
earshot; is such a society playing with fire?

There is a large dose of paranoia in the claim that listing of such
information on the 'Net is dangerous. An admittedly extreme example:
In my database of about 3600 persons living and dead, one of the very
few protests (two) was >from a person whose surname (a typically
Anglo-Saxon one, not identifiably Jewish) is represented by tens of
thousands of men in the US alone, and no doubt a similar number in
the rest of the English-speaking world; his given name is borne by
many thousands of Welshman. There is no way that anyone could identify
him >from what is on my website -- even if anybody were looking for him
there. Is he at risk? Because his mother's name is also there, and
because he may be so foolish as to use his mother's name as a password
at the bank?

Use your head about what you publish. A properly limited publication
is no risk. If you want the narrative, keep it separate.

--
Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: >from Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: >from Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: >from Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: >from Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the
URL is:
http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address
is not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the
URL above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email form
there.


Zamler family #poland

Elaine Farran <simplynanny@...>
 

My grandfather's name surname was Zamler. He came to the US via NY in
1904 but was sent back because he had some eye problem. He returned in
1910 or 1911, entering through the port of Philadelphia, using his wife's
family name, Gorenstein. He then went on to live in NY. There are no
immigration records that I could find for his entry into NY or
Philadelphia.

I have not been able to find anyone with the Zamler last name. I do know
the following:

He had a brother Avram Mendel Zamler (?) who had a son Joseph and a
daughter Phyllis or Felice. I have lost track of that family, but I
know Joseph died some years ago.I don't know Phyllis' last name.
One of the witnesses to his first papers was someone named Minnie
Semler, who lived nearby his residence in East Harlem. I assume she
was a relative, but cannot find anyone of that name.

Does anyone know of people by that name?

Any suggestions on how I can proceed to find family members or more
information about my grandfather? I have his original passport,
discharge >from the army, his first papers and naturalization papers.
His place of birth and his name changes >from one document to the next!

Thanks
Elaine Farran
Researching: ZAMLER, GORENSTEIN - Warsaw, possibly Lublin or Ukraine

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Make sure you search -- and register your surnames
with -- the JewishGen Family Finder at www.jewishgen.org/jgff


JRI Poland #Poland Zamler family #poland

Elaine Farran <simplynanny@...>
 

My grandfather's name surname was Zamler. He came to the US via NY in
1904 but was sent back because he had some eye problem. He returned in
1910 or 1911, entering through the port of Philadelphia, using his wife's
family name, Gorenstein. He then went on to live in NY. There are no
immigration records that I could find for his entry into NY or
Philadelphia.

I have not been able to find anyone with the Zamler last name. I do know
the following:

He had a brother Avram Mendel Zamler (?) who had a son Joseph and a
daughter Phyllis or Felice. I have lost track of that family, but I
know Joseph died some years ago.I don't know Phyllis' last name.
One of the witnesses to his first papers was someone named Minnie
Semler, who lived nearby his residence in East Harlem. I assume she
was a relative, but cannot find anyone of that name.

Does anyone know of people by that name?

Any suggestions on how I can proceed to find family members or more
information about my grandfather? I have his original passport,
discharge >from the army, his first papers and naturalization papers.
His place of birth and his name changes >from one document to the next!

Thanks
Elaine Farran
Researching: ZAMLER, GORENSTEIN - Warsaw, possibly Lublin or Ukraine

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Make sure you search -- and register your surnames
with -- the JewishGen Family Finder at www.jewishgen.org/jgff


Re: Can't Find the Right Town #poland

Susana Leistner Bloch
 

Hi Judith,

The town you are looking for is:
Skaryszew : 51°19' 21°15'
10.4 miles N of Ilza
8.1 miles SSE of Radom

You can find it in ShtetlSeekers by typing: "Skaryszew"
and searching by "Precise Spelling".

Hope this helps.

Susana Leistner Bloch

Judith GOLDSTEIN wrote:

I have been looking for records under Skarszewy - this is where we were
told the family was from. However, we know that it was south of Radom
and near Ilza, and the coordinates for Skarszewy are all wrong - that
town is near Gdansk rather than near Radom.

We have a postcard sent to Canada years ago postmarked "Skaryszow"
which town I am having trouble finding. Note that the spelling in the
middle of the word is quite different.

I have answered an archived request in which the lady is searching
for Skarszewy too and she has a website showing pictures of many members
of her family >from the town. My husband and family have confirmed that
they knew all of these people here in Canada so she and I must have been
concentrating our search on the wrong town entirely.

Yet on Mapquest I have seen a town named Skarszewy in exactly the right
place that I thought it would be, but I can't find anything corresponding
on ShtetlSeeker.

Anyone have any information? I would very much appreciate help.


JRI Poland #Poland Re: Can't Find the Right Town #poland

Susana Leistner Bloch
 

Hi Judith,

The town you are looking for is:
Skaryszew : 51°19' 21°15'
10.4 miles N of Ilza
8.1 miles SSE of Radom

You can find it in ShtetlSeekers by typing: "Skaryszew"
and searching by "Precise Spelling".

Hope this helps.

Susana Leistner Bloch

Judith GOLDSTEIN wrote:

I have been looking for records under Skarszewy - this is where we were
told the family was from. However, we know that it was south of Radom
and near Ilza, and the coordinates for Skarszewy are all wrong - that
town is near Gdansk rather than near Radom.

We have a postcard sent to Canada years ago postmarked "Skaryszow"
which town I am having trouble finding. Note that the spelling in the
middle of the word is quite different.

I have answered an archived request in which the lady is searching
for Skarszewy too and she has a website showing pictures of many members
of her family >from the town. My husband and family have confirmed that
they knew all of these people here in Canada so she and I must have been
concentrating our search on the wrong town entirely.

Yet on Mapquest I have seen a town named Skarszewy in exactly the right
place that I thought it would be, but I can't find anything corresponding
on ShtetlSeeker.

Anyone have any information? I would very much appreciate help.


searching: LUSTIG #austria-czech

yael <yael.g@...>
 

Dear Siggers
I am trying to find out what has happened to a friend of my mother.
called Erika Lustig >from Vienna. born in 1921 or 1922. Used to live in
Stiegergasse (15 bezirk), had a sister called Ilse (unfortunately found her
in the victims list) same with her mother Lustig Selma and grandparents
Gottlieb. Erika's parents separated and the father took Erika to Brno and
later to Prague. my mother has no idea if there was anyone left >from this
family. I found a microfilm of a newspaper where the name Erika Lustig
appeared as a surviver >from Theresienstadt (which is logical if she was in
Prague), but I could not find anything else.

Maybe one of the experts in this group can assist ? your help will be very
much appreciated. thanks.

Yael Goetzler.
Yael.g@...


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech searching: LUSTIG #austria-czech

yael <yael.g@...>
 

Dear Siggers
I am trying to find out what has happened to a friend of my mother.
called Erika Lustig >from Vienna. born in 1921 or 1922. Used to live in
Stiegergasse (15 bezirk), had a sister called Ilse (unfortunately found her
in the victims list) same with her mother Lustig Selma and grandparents
Gottlieb. Erika's parents separated and the father took Erika to Brno and
later to Prague. my mother has no idea if there was anyone left >from this
family. I found a microfilm of a newspaper where the name Erika Lustig
appeared as a surviver >from Theresienstadt (which is logical if she was in
Prague), but I could not find anything else.

Maybe one of the experts in this group can assist ? your help will be very
much appreciated. thanks.

Yael Goetzler.
Yael.g@...


finding the SHACTER familly #general

burton shacter <bshacter@...>
 

I'm trying to find descendents of Harry (Zvi) Shacter

He lived in Grading Russia

Burton Shacter Minneapolis Minnesota


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen finding the SHACTER familly #general

burton shacter <bshacter@...>
 

I'm trying to find descendents of Harry (Zvi) Shacter

He lived in Grading Russia

Burton Shacter Minneapolis Minnesota


Researching: Ester SIMOM #general

Leonardo Futuro <leonardo.futuro@...>
 

Hi,

Im researching the family name Simom, Esther Simom imigrated from
France to Brasil on the late 1800's. I'm trying to determine a Jewish
origin. thanks for your help

Leonardo Futuro

Researching Futuro and Simom families....


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Researching: Ester SIMOM #general

Leonardo Futuro <leonardo.futuro@...>
 

Hi,

Im researching the family name Simom, Esther Simom imigrated from
France to Brasil on the late 1800's. I'm trying to determine a Jewish
origin. thanks for your help

Leonardo Futuro

Researching Futuro and Simom families....


Urgent Message for Mogilev Researchers #belarus

David M. Fox <davefox73@...>
 

To All Mogilev Researchers,

There are no funds left in the Mogilev JewishGenerosity account.
Translations of Mogilev records have been halted until sufficient donations
are made to the Mogilev account on JewishGenerosity:
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/v_projectslist.asp?project_cat=1

Please make generous donations so we can continue to translate more Mogilev
records.

Dave
--
David Fox
Mail to: davefox73@...
Belarus SIG Founder and Past Coordinator
Arnold, MD USA
http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus


Belarus SIG #Belarus Urgent Message for Mogilev Researchers #belarus

David M. Fox <davefox73@...>
 

To All Mogilev Researchers,

There are no funds left in the Mogilev JewishGenerosity account.
Translations of Mogilev records have been halted until sufficient donations
are made to the Mogilev account on JewishGenerosity:
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/v_projectslist.asp?project_cat=1

Please make generous donations so we can continue to translate more Mogilev
records.

Dave
--
David Fox
Mail to: davefox73@...
Belarus SIG Founder and Past Coordinator
Arnold, MD USA
http://www.jewishgen.org/belarus