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Confiscated Art Heirs Search
#general
Thekla1
Olga Freund Hoppe and Berta Freund Sieben lived in Chicago in 1949
according to documents. Their addresses were **** Winthrop Avenue and **** West 28th Street. I have been told that these two women and/or their families could recover art work presently held in the Czech Republic; however, if these heirs are not found by the end of the year 2001, this art work will be nationalized. I have no personal interest in this effort. The reason that I am searching for them is because I have had so much help in my efforts to recover confiscated art belonging to my family and I have been successful; therefore, I feel a strong responsibility to assist others if I can. Please search your records and let me know if you could provide any useful information. Sincerely, Thekla Stein Nordwind
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Re: Holland America Line film
#general
Warren Blatt <wblatt@...>
"Mimi Katz" <geveretk@core.com> wrote:
I've searched the LDS online catalogue and can't find theThe Holland America Line (HAL) passenger registers and indexes are on over 1,000 microfiche. For the LDS catalog numbers of these microfiche, and detailed information about the Holland America Line passenger registers and indexes, see the JewishGen InfoFiles at: < http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/#Immigration >. Warren Warren Blatt Boston, MA <wblatt@jewishgen.org>
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Spanish translation assistance
#general
encore <encore@...>
I would appreciate assistance with a translation of a three line email
in Spanish regarding a posting in the JGFF. Please respond to privately to: encore@epconline.com Thanks. Neil Stein
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Confiscated Art Heirs Search
#general
Thekla1
Olga Freund Hoppe and Berta Freund Sieben lived in Chicago in 1949
according to documents. Their addresses were **** Winthrop Avenue and **** West 28th Street. I have been told that these two women and/or their families could recover art work presently held in the Czech Republic; however, if these heirs are not found by the end of the year 2001, this art work will be nationalized. I have no personal interest in this effort. The reason that I am searching for them is because I have had so much help in my efforts to recover confiscated art belonging to my family and I have been successful; therefore, I feel a strong responsibility to assist others if I can. Please search your records and let me know if you could provide any useful information. Sincerely, Thekla Stein Nordwind
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Holland America Line film
#general
Warren Blatt <wblatt@...>
"Mimi Katz" <geveretk@core.com> wrote:
I've searched the LDS online catalogue and can't find theThe Holland America Line (HAL) passenger registers and indexes are on over 1,000 microfiche. For the LDS catalog numbers of these microfiche, and detailed information about the Holland America Line passenger registers and indexes, see the JewishGen InfoFiles at: < http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/#Immigration >. Warren Warren Blatt Boston, MA <wblatt@jewishgen.org>
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Spanish translation assistance
#general
encore <encore@...>
I would appreciate assistance with a translation of a three line email
in Spanish regarding a posting in the JGFF. Please respond to privately to: encore@epconline.com Thanks. Neil Stein
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POEDEZARRAGA@...
Hi:
I am reading and reading and cannot believe my eyes, being a litwak myself and in addition to that a kurland I cannot see a single kurland in the mail only >from Riga which not Kurland or Courland it's Latvia and never was Kurland. I understand that it's good to be a Courlandian still Riga is outside the borders of Kurland and even now in Latvia this region is called Kurzeme which is in a sense in Latvian Kurland. Kurs never lived beyond the territory outlined beyond current Kurzeme and therefore it's Riga. So if someone feels that he is >from Kurland being born in Finland because it ends the same way he is probably has more rights since the Kurs and Finns are almost like brothers and sister. In 13 century German Teutonic Knights pouched all kurish tribes out of Kurland since it was very good area for German resorts and the rest is a history, similar way German Teutonic knights pushed out original Prussian tribes at the same time in history. So Kurzeme is a history and now you know why Kurland does not exist as independent state since the original people of that land do not live there anymore. They were related to Lithuanians and Latvians and made the same group of languages and before they were related to Finnish Uygur group of languages afterwards absorbing Lithuanian and Latvian similarities. Kurland is world famous for Amber and Courland Sound in Baltics renamed in honor of Kursk Battle in world war two as Kursk Sound is famous for it's ice free environment throughout the winter unlike Riga Sound. The main Russian oil terminal which is used for shipping Russian oil to foreign countries is located in the town of Ventspils were my grandmother Fiega Aronowitz was born in 1885 and lived until 1896 for Vilna the birthplace of her father with her two sisters and mother and father. She lived in Vilna until 1906-07 when she met my grandfather in Minsk, Belarus and married there. She professionally worked in her business until Bolshevik revolution and later continued to work out of her house until World War Two. Living her eldest daughter with three grandsons and her husband behind she evacuated to Ufa, Urals during world war two and spent there all war. After the war she returned to Minsk with my mother and my brother she found out that all three grandchildren had been killed by Germans two in gas vans(gassed) and one shot by firing squad. My grandfather together with my aunt was killed in gas van(gassed).After this she lived in Minsk until I was born in 1952 after my birth she spent remaining years of her life educating me in Kurische traditions. I was named Boris after my late dead grandfather Berk Kaufman. So I feel being kurlandische not only by my roots but by my kurische education. Not to many people can claim this. That is why I know the difference being born in Riga or anywhere else including Poland. Same applies to everybody. Enjoy reading this material, Bye. *** Please sign messages. Thanks - Moderator ***
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POEDEZARRAGA@...
Hi:
I am reading and reading and cannot believe my eyes, being a litwak myself and in addition to that a kurland I cannot see a single kurland in the mail only >from Riga which not Kurland or Courland it's Latvia and never was Kurland. I understand that it's good to be a Courlandian still Riga is outside the borders of Kurland and even now in Latvia this region is called Kurzeme which is in a sense in Latvian Kurland. Kurs never lived beyond the territory outlined beyond current Kurzeme and therefore it's Riga. So if someone feels that he is >from Kurland being born in Finland because it ends the same way he is probably has more rights since the Kurs and Finns are almost like brothers and sister. In 13 century German Teutonic Knights pouched all kurish tribes out of Kurland since it was very good area for German resorts and the rest is a history, similar way German Teutonic knights pushed out original Prussian tribes at the same time in history. So Kurzeme is a history and now you know why Kurland does not exist as independent state since the original people of that land do not live there anymore. They were related to Lithuanians and Latvians and made the same group of languages and before they were related to Finnish Uygur group of languages afterwards absorbing Lithuanian and Latvian similarities. Kurland is world famous for Amber and Courland Sound in Baltics renamed in honor of Kursk Battle in world war two as Kursk Sound is famous for it's ice free environment throughout the winter unlike Riga Sound. The main Russian oil terminal which is used for shipping Russian oil to foreign countries is located in the town of Ventspils were my grandmother Fiega Aronowitz was born in 1885 and lived until 1896 for Vilna the birthplace of her father with her two sisters and mother and father. She lived in Vilna until 1906-07 when she met my grandfather in Minsk, Belarus and married there. She professionally worked in her business until Bolshevik revolution and later continued to work out of her house until World War Two. Living her eldest daughter with three grandsons and her husband behind she evacuated to Ufa, Urals during world war two and spent there all war. After the war she returned to Minsk with my mother and my brother she found out that all three grandchildren had been killed by Germans two in gas vans(gassed) and one shot by firing squad. My grandfather together with my aunt was killed in gas van(gassed).After this she lived in Minsk until I was born in 1952 after my birth she spent remaining years of her life educating me in Kurische traditions. I was named Boris after my late dead grandfather Berk Kaufman. So I feel being kurlandische not only by my roots but by my kurische education. Not to many people can claim this. That is why I know the difference being born in Riga or anywhere else including Poland. Same applies to everybody. Enjoy reading this material, Bye. *** Please sign messages. Thanks - Moderator ***
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Surname changess
#southafrica
Dr Saul Issroff <saul@...>
Subject: surnames
From: roseron <roseron@shani.net> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 The Lithuanian Names Project has stimulated my interest in Jewiish Lithuanian family surnames. . When processesing the project name submission forms, and also when reading Litvaksig, I have come accross numerous surname changes As we know, this occurs for a number of reasons ranging >from dodging the draft to immigration. I would like to put a call out asking for the following information - 1) town of origin, 2) original surname 3) surname change 4) place where the change took place eg. country, port of entry 5) approximate year 6) any other information regarding the name change Please could you put this call out for me. The information can be sent to me privately - Rose Lerer Cohen roseron@shani.net and I will enter the information onto a database which I will share with you in the future. Thank you very much for your help Looking forward to hearing >from you rose Rose Lerer Cohen Co-ordinator Lithuanian Names Project- -- Dr Saul Issroff London2001 - 21st International Conference on Jewish Genealogy 8-13 July 2001 www.jewishgen.org/london2001.htm info.london2001@talk21.com
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South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Surname changess
#southafrica
Dr Saul Issroff <saul@...>
Subject: surnames
From: roseron <roseron@shani.net> Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2000 The Lithuanian Names Project has stimulated my interest in Jewiish Lithuanian family surnames. . When processesing the project name submission forms, and also when reading Litvaksig, I have come accross numerous surname changes As we know, this occurs for a number of reasons ranging >from dodging the draft to immigration. I would like to put a call out asking for the following information - 1) town of origin, 2) original surname 3) surname change 4) place where the change took place eg. country, port of entry 5) approximate year 6) any other information regarding the name change Please could you put this call out for me. The information can be sent to me privately - Rose Lerer Cohen roseron@shani.net and I will enter the information onto a database which I will share with you in the future. Thank you very much for your help Looking forward to hearing >from you rose Rose Lerer Cohen Co-ordinator Lithuanian Names Project- -- Dr Saul Issroff London2001 - 21st International Conference on Jewish Genealogy 8-13 July 2001 www.jewishgen.org/london2001.htm info.london2001@talk21.com
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Settlers
#southafrica
Dr Saul Issroff <saul@...>
Hello all >from Sunny South Africa, I have started a club called
Settlers which deals with the Settlers >from different countries to South Africa >from the 1700s into the early 1900s. If anyone is interested, please send me questions and I will try my level best to find information at hand. I am lucky enough to work at the local university so I have free access to the libraries and have managed to collect a fair amount of research myself. I would also appreciate it if anyone who has information to share could send it through to my e-mail and I will be happy to pass it on and also include it on my Web page. Once I have settled down with the club, I will be sending out a newsletter every two weeks or so and would love to include snippets of information that we receive. Judging by the amount of queries I have had, it seems that this is exactly what we needed in this sunny country of ours. There are so many people who just need a slight nudge in the right direction and if I can be of any help, just say the word. Marlene Hoar rhoar@global.co.za PERMISSION TO REPRINT articles >from ROOTSWEB REVIEW is granted unless specifically stated otherwise, PROVIDED: (1) the reprint is used for non-commercial, educational purposes; and (2) the following notice appears at the end of the article: Written by [author's name, e-mail address, and URL, if given]. Previously published by RootsWeb.com, Inc., RootsWeb Review: RootsWeb's Genealogy News, Vol. 3, No. 43, 25 October 2000. RootsWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/ -- Dr Saul Issroff London2001 - 21st International Conference on Jewish Genealogy 8-13 July 2001 www.jewishgen.org/london2001.htm info.london2001@talk21.com
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South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Settlers
#southafrica
Dr Saul Issroff <saul@...>
Hello all >from Sunny South Africa, I have started a club called
Settlers which deals with the Settlers >from different countries to South Africa >from the 1700s into the early 1900s. If anyone is interested, please send me questions and I will try my level best to find information at hand. I am lucky enough to work at the local university so I have free access to the libraries and have managed to collect a fair amount of research myself. I would also appreciate it if anyone who has information to share could send it through to my e-mail and I will be happy to pass it on and also include it on my Web page. Once I have settled down with the club, I will be sending out a newsletter every two weeks or so and would love to include snippets of information that we receive. Judging by the amount of queries I have had, it seems that this is exactly what we needed in this sunny country of ours. There are so many people who just need a slight nudge in the right direction and if I can be of any help, just say the word. Marlene Hoar rhoar@global.co.za PERMISSION TO REPRINT articles >from ROOTSWEB REVIEW is granted unless specifically stated otherwise, PROVIDED: (1) the reprint is used for non-commercial, educational purposes; and (2) the following notice appears at the end of the article: Written by [author's name, e-mail address, and URL, if given]. Previously published by RootsWeb.com, Inc., RootsWeb Review: RootsWeb's Genealogy News, Vol. 3, No. 43, 25 October 2000. RootsWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/ -- Dr Saul Issroff London2001 - 21st International Conference on Jewish Genealogy 8-13 July 2001 www.jewishgen.org/london2001.htm info.london2001@talk21.com
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Fischer Family - Szatmar Hungary - Elizabeth, NJ
#hungary
TBanyai78@...
Dear JewishGenners,
Here is part of my family tree: William (a/k/a Willie/Bill) m. Helen Goldfield 1929 (dec'd. @41 yrs.) m. Elvira Ehrenkranz (dec'd. @91 yrs. in NM) Son: Martin Fischer (recently found ) Here are the branches of the tree I'm searching for (they are William Fischer's siblings): Irene (Fischer) Duchin - Children: Eugene, Les and Millicent Erna (Fischer) Friedman - Children: Jerry and Carole Louis Fischer - Children: Janet (divorced and remarried) and Marilyn (Fischer) Savarin) Alex Fischer - Children: Blanche and Evelyn I am also looking for a Leonard Goodman, last address Santa Ana, CA who is/was an engineer and his sister Judy, last address NY (surname unknown). Please reply privately. Thank you. Jayne Cartier Kew Gardens Hills, NY
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Hungary SIG #Hungary Fischer Family - Szatmar Hungary - Elizabeth, NJ
#hungary
TBanyai78@...
Dear JewishGenners,
Here is part of my family tree: William (a/k/a Willie/Bill) m. Helen Goldfield 1929 (dec'd. @41 yrs.) m. Elvira Ehrenkranz (dec'd. @91 yrs. in NM) Son: Martin Fischer (recently found ) Here are the branches of the tree I'm searching for (they are William Fischer's siblings): Irene (Fischer) Duchin - Children: Eugene, Les and Millicent Erna (Fischer) Friedman - Children: Jerry and Carole Louis Fischer - Children: Janet (divorced and remarried) and Marilyn (Fischer) Savarin) Alex Fischer - Children: Blanche and Evelyn I am also looking for a Leonard Goodman, last address Santa Ana, CA who is/was an engineer and his sister Judy, last address NY (surname unknown). Please reply privately. Thank you. Jayne Cartier Kew Gardens Hills, NY
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Cincinnati Newspapers Circa 1908-10
#general
Jackye Sullins <jackye@...>
Can anyone tell me if there were other newspapers in Cincinnati around 1910
besides the Inquirer? I'm trying to find an obituary for my great great uncle, Sigmond RAGOWSKY. I have one >from the Inquirer and am trying to find one with more genealogical information. Thank you. Jackye Sullins
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Cincinnati Newspapers Circa 1908-10
#general
Jackye Sullins <jackye@...>
Can anyone tell me if there were other newspapers in Cincinnati around 1910
besides the Inquirer? I'm trying to find an obituary for my great great uncle, Sigmond RAGOWSKY. I have one >from the Inquirer and am trying to find one with more genealogical information. Thank you. Jackye Sullins
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Defunct Synagogue Records
#general
Hafcjf@...
Hi! Perhaps someone can help with a sticky situation. My friend is
engaged to a man who comes >from an Orthodox family. His family claims that she's not Jewish. Rather than have him stand up to his family and create a controversy, she'd like to see if it's possible to find records to document her mother's conversion. Here's the situation. My friend's mother (now deceased) converted when she married a Jewish man, back in the early 1930s. Later, when he turned out to be infertile, he couldn't handle it and began running around and they were divorced. (I don't know if this included a religious divorce.) My friend's mother later remarried a non-religious, non-Jewish man. My friend was raised as a Christian. She discovered a photo of her mother's first husband and his family wearing tallis and yamalkes (sp?) and was then told that her mother converted. Whenever they rode past a particular neighborhood in Miami, her mother would point out the street that the small synagogue where she'd been married and converted stood. However, by the 1950s, this was no longer a synagogue but was used as a church for recent Cuban emigrees. She has no idea of the name of the shul. When my friend grew up she married a Jewish man. Though they were not particularly observant, their son was bar mitzvahed and they celebrated some holidays. Is there anyway to locate records >from a defunct synagogue so that she can avoid a confrontation with her new in-laws? How would she go about this? Thanks, Cathy J. Flamholtz hafcjf@aol.com
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Re: Rovna Poland or Russia
#general
Marla Waltman Daschko <waltman@...>
In response to a question as to why place names are changing >from 'o'
endings to other endings such as 'i' Alexander Sharon wrote: There is no one to blame in particular. Russian, Polish and UkrainianHe is correct. But the reason for this change is because of the political changes that have been sweeping over the former USSR. Countries that have been dominated for centuries by Russia are now reclaiming their own languages and their own pronunciation of the place names within their boundaries. So, for example, Lvov (Russian) is now L'viv (Ukrainian), Kiev (Russian) is now Kyiv (Ukrainian), and Rovno (Russian)is now Rivne (Ukrainian). The same thing has happened in Poland and other eastern European countries. Therefore, just as we learned to call stop saying 'Peking' and pronounce the city as 'Beijing' we will need to recognize the 'new' and proper placenames in Ukraine, Poland, etc. Marla Waltman Daschko Nepean, Ontario, Canada waltman@fox.nstn.ca
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Defunct Synagogue Records
#general
Hafcjf@...
Hi! Perhaps someone can help with a sticky situation. My friend is
engaged to a man who comes >from an Orthodox family. His family claims that she's not Jewish. Rather than have him stand up to his family and create a controversy, she'd like to see if it's possible to find records to document her mother's conversion. Here's the situation. My friend's mother (now deceased) converted when she married a Jewish man, back in the early 1930s. Later, when he turned out to be infertile, he couldn't handle it and began running around and they were divorced. (I don't know if this included a religious divorce.) My friend's mother later remarried a non-religious, non-Jewish man. My friend was raised as a Christian. She discovered a photo of her mother's first husband and his family wearing tallis and yamalkes (sp?) and was then told that her mother converted. Whenever they rode past a particular neighborhood in Miami, her mother would point out the street that the small synagogue where she'd been married and converted stood. However, by the 1950s, this was no longer a synagogue but was used as a church for recent Cuban emigrees. She has no idea of the name of the shul. When my friend grew up she married a Jewish man. Though they were not particularly observant, their son was bar mitzvahed and they celebrated some holidays. Is there anyway to locate records >from a defunct synagogue so that she can avoid a confrontation with her new in-laws? How would she go about this? Thanks, Cathy J. Flamholtz hafcjf@aol.com
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Rovna Poland or Russia
#general
Marla Waltman Daschko <waltman@...>
In response to a question as to why place names are changing >from 'o'
endings to other endings such as 'i' Alexander Sharon wrote: There is no one to blame in particular. Russian, Polish and UkrainianHe is correct. But the reason for this change is because of the political changes that have been sweeping over the former USSR. Countries that have been dominated for centuries by Russia are now reclaiming their own languages and their own pronunciation of the place names within their boundaries. So, for example, Lvov (Russian) is now L'viv (Ukrainian), Kiev (Russian) is now Kyiv (Ukrainian), and Rovno (Russian)is now Rivne (Ukrainian). The same thing has happened in Poland and other eastern European countries. Therefore, just as we learned to call stop saying 'Peking' and pronounce the city as 'Beijing' we will need to recognize the 'new' and proper placenames in Ukraine, Poland, etc. Marla Waltman Daschko Nepean, Ontario, Canada waltman@fox.nstn.ca
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