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Re: How to get a book? #hungary

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Greetings,

First at all, let me thank in public to the many (and I mean *many* indeed) who
were kind to reply to my previous letter, offering great tips and guidance as to
how I should proceed to obtain the book. It was an invaluable help and my
gratitude can not be expressed in words. You are a fantastic group of people and
I own you all much.

Surprisingly, my question raised a quite contentious discussion among some, who
wrote pros and cons about my intention of buying the book >from the Slovak library
which holds the *seemingly* sole copy.

It wasn't my intention to create such a "turbulence". Interestingly, it placed me
in a kind of "Sophia's choice". The question became "was it fair - or even ethical
- to buy the book and take it away >from the general public's access?"

Allow me to say that the answer isn't as straightforward as some suggested. I
practically lost all my family in the Shoah, including this my uncle who wrote
the book. Without exaggeration, I became a "family orphan" and grew up without
the company of those many who were murdered by the Nazi madness.

This is one of the main reason for having spent almost 10 years researching my
family's background. All I have left is a detailed family tree and a number of
documents related to my ancestry, which I collected along those years. I also
collect whatever objects that belonged to my lost family, mainly books and
letters I could/can obtain. It seems to me that in this manner I'm preserving
their blessed memories. Tom's choice isn't simple!

Once again my deepest thanks to all who responded,
with friendly regards
Tom
--

Tom Venetianer < mailto:tom.vene@uol.com.br >
Sao Paulo - Brazil


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: How to get a book? #general

Tom Venetianer <tom.vene@...>
 

Greetings,

First at all, let me thank in public to the many (and I mean *many* indeed) who
were kind to reply to my previous letter, offering great tips and guidance as to
how I should proceed to obtain the book. It was an invaluable help and my
gratitude can not be expressed in words. You are a fantastic group of people and
I own you all much.

Surprisingly, my question raised a quite contentious discussion among some, who
wrote pros and cons about my intention of buying the book >from the Slovak library
which holds the *seemingly* sole copy.

It wasn't my intention to create such a "turbulence". Interestingly, it placed me
in a kind of "Sophia's choice". The question became "was it fair - or even ethical
- to buy the book and take it away >from the general public's access?"

Allow me to say that the answer isn't as straightforward as some suggested. I
practically lost all my family in the Shoah, including this my uncle who wrote
the book. Without exaggeration, I became a "family orphan" and grew up without
the company of those many who were murdered by the Nazi madness.

This is one of the main reason for having spent almost 10 years researching my
family's background. All I have left is a detailed family tree and a number of
documents related to my ancestry, which I collected along those years. I also
collect whatever objects that belonged to my lost family, mainly books and
letters I could/can obtain. It seems to me that in this manner I'm preserving
their blessed memories. Tom's choice isn't simple!

Once again my deepest thanks to all who responded,
with friendly regards
Tom
--

Tom Venetianer < mailto:tom.vene@uol.com.br >
Sao Paulo - Brazil


Books of Residents and Census Registers, etc. #poland

Fbussgang@...
 

In a message dated 7/20/05 2:29:07 AM, Stanley Diamond writes:

<< While spending your money on private research will ferret out records
for only your own family, joining with fellow researchers to index these
records through JRI-Poland will make these records accessible to your
own family -- as well as other families with roots in that town. >>

I am glad Stanley wrote abut JRI-Poland's new initiative to index books of
residents. It will undoubtedly be cheaper for each individual researcher,
and you are less likely to miss something relevant to your family if all
the records for your town are indexed.

Fay Bussgang
Lexington, MA


JRI Poland #Poland Books of Residents and Census Registers, etc. #poland

Fbussgang@...
 

In a message dated 7/20/05 2:29:07 AM, Stanley Diamond writes:

<< While spending your money on private research will ferret out records
for only your own family, joining with fellow researchers to index these
records through JRI-Poland will make these records accessible to your
own family -- as well as other families with roots in that town. >>

I am glad Stanley wrote abut JRI-Poland's new initiative to index books of
residents. It will undoubtedly be cheaper for each individual researcher,
and you are less likely to miss something relevant to your family if all
the records for your town are indexed.

Fay Bussgang
Lexington, MA


recent IAJGS conference in Las Vegas #general

Joan Rimmon
 

Congrats to JGSSN
I would like to add my voice to those praising the recent conference in Las
Vegas. How such a small in number group could pull together an A+ program as
we experienced last week is an absolutely amazing feat.
Congratulations to Michael Brenner: the general chairman, Charlotte & Sam
Showal: registration and treasurer, Carole Montello: program chair, and Hal
Bookbinder: syllabus and all the other numerous volunteers for their untiring
efforts.

Joan Glanz RIMMON, Los Angeles

Pray for the peace of Jerusalem and the world.

Seeking:
Germany: NUSBAUM/NUSSBAUM (Erdemannrode), LANGSDORF (Battenberg), WEINBERG
(Storndorf), STERN (Nieder Ohmen), ROSENSTOCK (Tann bei Fulda), LEVISTEIN
(Geisa), KATZ (Altenkirchen), FRANK (unknown city of origin, but emigrated to US
beofre 1860).Poltava: KNOPPOW, KNOPOV, BUDNITZKY Latvia: GLANZSET/GLANSET,
KLUMENS Belarus: DUKSIN, STARISHEVSKY, KRAZNITZKY, STAWSKI (Zhabinka),
SOLNITZE/SOLNICA/SOLNICE , GRYNSZPAN, KAPLANSKY (Kamenetz Litovsk)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen recent IAJGS conference in Las Vegas #general

Joan Rimmon
 

Congrats to JGSSN
I would like to add my voice to those praising the recent conference in Las
Vegas. How such a small in number group could pull together an A+ program as
we experienced last week is an absolutely amazing feat.
Congratulations to Michael Brenner: the general chairman, Charlotte & Sam
Showal: registration and treasurer, Carole Montello: program chair, and Hal
Bookbinder: syllabus and all the other numerous volunteers for their untiring
efforts.

Joan Glanz RIMMON, Los Angeles

Pray for the peace of Jerusalem and the world.

Seeking:
Germany: NUSBAUM/NUSSBAUM (Erdemannrode), LANGSDORF (Battenberg), WEINBERG
(Storndorf), STERN (Nieder Ohmen), ROSENSTOCK (Tann bei Fulda), LEVISTEIN
(Geisa), KATZ (Altenkirchen), FRANK (unknown city of origin, but emigrated to US
beofre 1860).Poltava: KNOPPOW, KNOPOV, BUDNITZKY Latvia: GLANZSET/GLANSET,
KLUMENS Belarus: DUKSIN, STARISHEVSKY, KRAZNITZKY, STAWSKI (Zhabinka),
SOLNITZE/SOLNICA/SOLNICE , GRYNSZPAN, KAPLANSKY (Kamenetz Litovsk)


Re: Galician names #general

Mark Halpern
 

I am no expert on Jewish given names, but I am surprised that neither
name (or variant) is in the Galician given name database. Here is
another example of the use of the Jewish Records Indexing - Poland
database of nearly 3 million Jewish vital record indices. The database
contains at least 750,000 entries for Galicia.

As announced at the recent Conference in Las Vegas, you can now search
the database for a given name. You can also restrict the search to those
indices >from Galicia. The result are many records showing the male given
name Tewel/Tewiel/etc. and Juer/Jur/Jure/etc. and the female variants.
You can search the database at http://www.jri-poland.org/jriplweb.htm.

Mark Halpern
JRI-Poland AGAD Archive Coordinator (for east Galician Records)

----- Original Message -----
Dear Genners,
Have any of you heard the male given names Tewil
or Juer/Jur Ber? These are listed on the JRI-Poland
Indexes for my g-g-uncle and g-g-grandfather
respectively. Neither names nor variations are listed
on the Galician given names databases.
As always, I appreciate your help. Thank you.
Shari Kantrow


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Galician names #general

Mark Halpern
 

I am no expert on Jewish given names, but I am surprised that neither
name (or variant) is in the Galician given name database. Here is
another example of the use of the Jewish Records Indexing - Poland
database of nearly 3 million Jewish vital record indices. The database
contains at least 750,000 entries for Galicia.

As announced at the recent Conference in Las Vegas, you can now search
the database for a given name. You can also restrict the search to those
indices >from Galicia. The result are many records showing the male given
name Tewel/Tewiel/etc. and Juer/Jur/Jure/etc. and the female variants.
You can search the database at http://www.jri-poland.org/jriplweb.htm.

Mark Halpern
JRI-Poland AGAD Archive Coordinator (for east Galician Records)

----- Original Message -----
Dear Genners,
Have any of you heard the male given names Tewil
or Juer/Jur Ber? These are listed on the JRI-Poland
Indexes for my g-g-uncle and g-g-grandfather
respectively. Neither names nor variations are listed
on the Galician given names databases.
As always, I appreciate your help. Thank you.
Shari Kantrow


Searching BERELOWITZ family #southafrica

Judith Berlowitz <jberlowitz@...>
 

Dear Siggers,

This is my first post on the SA SIG, so greetings to
all. I've just returned >from (excessively) fabulous
Las Vegas, where I learned that there may be some
descendants of my husband's family in South Africa.
My husband's grandfather was Jankl (Jacob) BERELOWITZ
and came to America >from Ekaterinoslav, Ukraine
(village of Orekhov) in 1906. He had the choice (so
the family story goes) of going either to America or
to South Africa, where he had a cousin. Jankl's
father may have been Hirsch. If anyone recognizes
these names, I would greatly appreciate hearing from
you.

Judith Berlowitz
Berkeley, California, USA


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Searching BERELOWITZ family #southafrica

Judith Berlowitz <jberlowitz@...>
 

Dear Siggers,

This is my first post on the SA SIG, so greetings to
all. I've just returned >from (excessively) fabulous
Las Vegas, where I learned that there may be some
descendants of my husband's family in South Africa.
My husband's grandfather was Jankl (Jacob) BERELOWITZ
and came to America >from Ekaterinoslav, Ukraine
(village of Orekhov) in 1906. He had the choice (so
the family story goes) of going either to America or
to South Africa, where he had a cousin. Jankl's
father may have been Hirsch. If anyone recognizes
these names, I would greatly appreciate hearing from
you.

Judith Berlowitz
Berkeley, California, USA


Pupkewitz -Namibia #southafrica

Saul Issroff <saul@...>
 

Interesting interview of Harold Pupkewitz at
http://allafrica.com/stories/printable/200507150702.html

Saul Issroff


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Pupkewitz -Namibia #southafrica

Saul Issroff <saul@...>
 

Interesting interview of Harold Pupkewitz at
http://allafrica.com/stories/printable/200507150702.html

Saul Issroff


Re: lithuania info #general

ben.forman <ben.forman@...>
 

Hi Genners

Thanks to those of you who responded to my email below who
have informed me of the common relationship between the name
Elihaya and Eliash, what I would like know is would the
record associated with KRA/I-49/1/17526 have any further
information on it other than that given in the results table
from the tax and voter list e.g. the names of the other male
and 3 females who are also referenced. If there is further
information available who can I contact to get it?

Thanks

Ben Forman


I have found a reference in the tax and voter list which
may be to my ancestors in Ylakai the ref is
KRA/I-49/1/17526 and it refers to an Eliash BERENSTEIN, my
ancestor was called Elihaya according to my GGM (who was
his daughter) what can I now do with this to find out if
it does refer to my family?

Thanks

Ben Forman


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: lithuania info #general

ben.forman <ben.forman@...>
 

Hi Genners

Thanks to those of you who responded to my email below who
have informed me of the common relationship between the name
Elihaya and Eliash, what I would like know is would the
record associated with KRA/I-49/1/17526 have any further
information on it other than that given in the results table
from the tax and voter list e.g. the names of the other male
and 3 females who are also referenced. If there is further
information available who can I contact to get it?

Thanks

Ben Forman


I have found a reference in the tax and voter list which
may be to my ancestors in Ylakai the ref is
KRA/I-49/1/17526 and it refers to an Eliash BERENSTEIN, my
ancestor was called Elihaya according to my GGM (who was
his daughter) what can I now do with this to find out if
it does refer to my family?

Thanks

Ben Forman


Re: Galician names #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

"Shari Kantrow" < sjoysk@yahoo.com > wrote:

Dear Genners,
Have any of you heard the male given names Tewil
or Juer/Jur Ber? These are listed on the JRI-Poland
Indexes for my g-g-uncle and g-g-grandfather
respectively. Neither names nor variations are listed
on the Galician given names databases.
See Tewil in http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/Tomaszow1/tom025d.html

--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland)
WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany) KOHN (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany)
LANDAU/FREDKIN(Gomel, Mogilev, Belarus)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Galician names #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

"Shari Kantrow" < sjoysk@yahoo.com > wrote:

Dear Genners,
Have any of you heard the male given names Tewil
or Juer/Jur Ber? These are listed on the JRI-Poland
Indexes for my g-g-uncle and g-g-grandfather
respectively. Neither names nor variations are listed
on the Galician given names databases.
See Tewil in http://www.jewishgen.org/yizkor/Tomaszow1/tom025d.html

--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland)
WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany) KOHN (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany)
LANDAU/FREDKIN(Gomel, Mogilev, Belarus)


Re: ADRET (RASHBA) Family in Israel #rabbinic

Mr L Reich <lreich@...>
 

On 2005.07.17, Irina Kunina <irina_kunina@earthlink.net> enquired:

My family claims that we are related to the family of Rabbi Shlomo
ben Adret (RaSHBA) >from Barcelona. We also know that Adret family
moved >from Spain to Smirna (Turkey). Then they moved >from Smirna to
Israel in the 19th or 20th century and lived there in 1936. Can
anyone help us locate this rabbinical family in
Israel?
The Hebrew biographical dictionary, "Yahaduth Hamizrach B'Eretz
Yisroel" by M.D.Gaon (Publ. Jerusalem 1938) has on p.701 brief
details and references to a few 18th & 19th Century members of
this family.

Incidentally, I always thought the family name was pronounced
Aderet, not Adret.

Leslie Reich


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Re: ADRET (RASHBA) Family in Israel #rabbinic

Mr L Reich <lreich@...>
 

On 2005.07.17, Irina Kunina <irina_kunina@earthlink.net> enquired:

My family claims that we are related to the family of Rabbi Shlomo
ben Adret (RaSHBA) >from Barcelona. We also know that Adret family
moved >from Spain to Smirna (Turkey). Then they moved >from Smirna to
Israel in the 19th or 20th century and lived there in 1936. Can
anyone help us locate this rabbinical family in
Israel?
The Hebrew biographical dictionary, "Yahaduth Hamizrach B'Eretz
Yisroel" by M.D.Gaon (Publ. Jerusalem 1938) has on p.701 brief
details and references to a few 18th & 19th Century members of
this family.

Incidentally, I always thought the family name was pronounced
Aderet, not Adret.

Leslie Reich


KICHLER/KARLIK/GELBER Yiddish theatre - Lemburg. #yiddish

Nigel Wilson <wilsonettes@...>
 

Dear Friends,

I am assisting a friend here in Israel who is looking for his family >from
Lviv/Lemburg.

Marjem (Libe/Lina KICHLER) born 1875 in Lemberg married an Asriel/Israel
KARLIK – they lived in Lviv where their children were born – we know of 4,
there may have been more.

Zygmunt born 1891
Arnold Maks (Aron Meilech) born 1892
Genia born 1894
Joachim Izydor (Chaim Israel) born 1896.

Lina became a well known singer especially at Gimpel’s theatre in Lemberg.
She traveled through Austria, Hungary and Romania and in 1924 celebrated her
25th anniversary of her stage career. Asriel was also a member of the chorus
and would regularly sing solo numbers in Yiddish operettas and perform at
the Polish Opera.

Their daughter Genia (my friend’s grandmother) also took to the stage and
was a Yiddish actress.

Genia married a Moshe GELBER and we understand that he too was in the
theatre.

My friend knows absolutely nothing about his GELBER, KARLIK, or KICHLER
families and would be delighted to learn, if this stage in his life, he has
any relatives anywhere in the world.

If anyone has knowledge of any of the above families >from Lviv and
presumably surrounding areas, please do contact me.

I thank you.

Patricia Wilson (Israel)

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Yiddish Theatre and Vadeville #YiddishTheatre KICHLER/KARLIK/GELBER Yiddish theatre - Lemburg. #yiddish

Nigel Wilson <wilsonettes@...>
 

Dear Friends,

I am assisting a friend here in Israel who is looking for his family >from
Lviv/Lemburg.

Marjem (Libe/Lina KICHLER) born 1875 in Lemberg married an Asriel/Israel
KARLIK – they lived in Lviv where their children were born – we know of 4,
there may have been more.

Zygmunt born 1891
Arnold Maks (Aron Meilech) born 1892
Genia born 1894
Joachim Izydor (Chaim Israel) born 1896.

Lina became a well known singer especially at Gimpel’s theatre in Lemberg.
She traveled through Austria, Hungary and Romania and in 1924 celebrated her
25th anniversary of her stage career. Asriel was also a member of the chorus
and would regularly sing solo numbers in Yiddish operettas and perform at
the Polish Opera.

Their daughter Genia (my friend’s grandmother) also took to the stage and
was a Yiddish actress.

Genia married a Moshe GELBER and we understand that he too was in the
theatre.

My friend knows absolutely nothing about his GELBER, KARLIK, or KICHLER
families and would be delighted to learn, if this stage in his life, he has
any relatives anywhere in the world.

If anyone has knowledge of any of the above families >from Lviv and
presumably surrounding areas, please do contact me.

I thank you.

Patricia Wilson (Israel)

Moderator's Note: It is the policy of JewishGen not to allow posting of messages
for others, UNLESS the other party has no ability to directly access computer
facilties. That concition is assumed regarding this message.