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Re: Photo of Mondorf Synagogue #general

Evertjan. <exjxw.hannivoort@...>
 

Nick wrote on 20 jan 2006 in soc.genealogy.jewish:

The researcher who has sent me all the material about the Mondorf
cemetery needs pictures of the synagogue destroyed by the Nazis on
the night of the pogrom in 1938. (He refuses to call it
Kristalnacht.) Can anyone recommend a source for pictures of
destroyed German synagogues? --
This site is in German, but I think that it gives an impression of the
former synagogue.

http://members.aol.com/glangen/staetten/st_syna.htm
A [bad] translation:

< http://tinyurl.com/8e7nn >

--
Evertjan Hannivoort.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Photo of Mondorf Synagogue #general

Evertjan. <exjxw.hannivoort@...>
 

Nick wrote on 20 jan 2006 in soc.genealogy.jewish:

The researcher who has sent me all the material about the Mondorf
cemetery needs pictures of the synagogue destroyed by the Nazis on
the night of the pogrom in 1938. (He refuses to call it
Kristalnacht.) Can anyone recommend a source for pictures of
destroyed German synagogues? --
This site is in German, but I think that it gives an impression of the
former synagogue.

http://members.aol.com/glangen/staetten/st_syna.htm
A [bad] translation:

< http://tinyurl.com/8e7nn >

--
Evertjan Hannivoort.
The Netherlands.
(Please change the x'es to dots in my emailaddress)


Jewish Memorial (Yizkor) Books - UK #yizkorbooks

Saul Issroff <saul@...>
 

This e-mail is >from the Jewish Genealogical Society of Great Britain (JGSGB)
We wish to inform you of a recently published book:
*Jewish Memorial (Yizkor) Books in UK - Destroyed European Communities*
Cyril Fox & Saul Issroff. ISBN 0-9537669-5-0
Jewish Genealogical Society of Great Britain. London, 2006. 188 pages

This book is a unique listing of approximately 1,000 yizkor books and
memorbücher in 32 academic libraries in the United Kingdom.
Localities such as country or place names are listed alphabetically. The
original language(s) of each book are noted.

Bibliographic details about each entry, including the geographical
co-ordinates of specific towns or villages are given (because many places
have similar or even identical names).

A list of books translated or partly translated into English is given.
Smaller places, mentioned in yizkor books but not in the title of the book
are listed.
A detailed introduction explains the historical origins, the significance
and structure of yizkor books, the methods of compilation and the value to
historians and genealogists.

UK: GBP19-50 (+p & p GBP2)
USA: $35 (+ p & p $10 airmail)
Canada: $40 (+p& p $12 airmail)
Euros: E28 (+p & p E5)

ORDERS: MasterCard, Visa and Paypal on secure site
http://www.jgsgb.org.uk/shopping.shtml
http://www.jgsgb.org.uk/index.shtml

Saul Issroff
saul@issroff.com


Yizkor Books #YizkorBooks Jewish Memorial (Yizkor) Books - UK #yizkorbooks

Saul Issroff <saul@...>
 

This e-mail is >from the Jewish Genealogical Society of Great Britain (JGSGB)
We wish to inform you of a recently published book:
*Jewish Memorial (Yizkor) Books in UK - Destroyed European Communities*
Cyril Fox & Saul Issroff. ISBN 0-9537669-5-0
Jewish Genealogical Society of Great Britain. London, 2006. 188 pages

This book is a unique listing of approximately 1,000 yizkor books and
memorbücher in 32 academic libraries in the United Kingdom.
Localities such as country or place names are listed alphabetically. The
original language(s) of each book are noted.

Bibliographic details about each entry, including the geographical
co-ordinates of specific towns or villages are given (because many places
have similar or even identical names).

A list of books translated or partly translated into English is given.
Smaller places, mentioned in yizkor books but not in the title of the book
are listed.
A detailed introduction explains the historical origins, the significance
and structure of yizkor books, the methods of compilation and the value to
historians and genealogists.

UK: GBP19-50 (+p & p GBP2)
USA: $35 (+ p & p $10 airmail)
Canada: $40 (+p& p $12 airmail)
Euros: E28 (+p & p E5)

ORDERS: MasterCard, Visa and Paypal on secure site
http://www.jgsgb.org.uk/shopping.shtml
http://www.jgsgb.org.uk/index.shtml

Saul Issroff
saul@issroff.com


Finding an address in pre-war Warsaw #general

ralph salinger <salinger@...>
 

Dear Genners,

A very good friend of mine has asked me for assistance. Her daughter will be
visiting Warsaw this summer and she ants to look for the address of her
grandparents. Hia and Hiam KAPLAN.

Can anyone suggest how I can discover their address ?

Hiam and Hia lived in Warsaw prior to World War 2. Hia died in the Holocaust
but Hiam survived and arrived in Palestine after the war.

With many thanks,

Ralph Salinger
Kibbutz Kfar Ruppin
Israel

salinger@kfar-ruppin.org.il


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Finding an address in pre-war Warsaw #general

ralph salinger <salinger@...>
 

Dear Genners,

A very good friend of mine has asked me for assistance. Her daughter will be
visiting Warsaw this summer and she ants to look for the address of her
grandparents. Hia and Hiam KAPLAN.

Can anyone suggest how I can discover their address ?

Hiam and Hia lived in Warsaw prior to World War 2. Hia died in the Holocaust
but Hiam survived and arrived in Palestine after the war.

With many thanks,

Ralph Salinger
Kibbutz Kfar Ruppin
Israel

salinger@kfar-ruppin.org.il


Jewish Memorial ( Yizkor) Books -UK #general

Saul Issroff <saul@...>
 

This e-mail is >from the Jewish Genealogical Society of Great Britain (JGSGB)

We wish to inform you of a recently published book:

Jewish memorial (Yizkor) books in UK - Destroyed European Communities

Cyril Fox & Saul Issroff. ISBN 0-9537669-5-0

Jewish Genealogical Society of Great Britain. London, 2006. 188 pages

This book is a unique listing of approximately 1,000 yizkor books and
memorbücher in 32 academic libraries in the United Kingdom.

Localities such as country or place names are listed alphabetically. The
original language(s) of each book are noted.

Bibliographic details about each entry, including the geographical
co-ordinates of specific towns or villages are given (because many places
have similar or even identical names).

A list of books translated or partly translated into English is given.

Smaller places, mentioned in yizkor books but not in the title of the book
are listed.

A detailed introduction explains the historical origins, the significance
and structure of yizkor books, the methods of compilation and the value to
historians and genealogists.

UK: GBP19-50 (+p & p GBP2)
USA: $35 (+ p & p $10 airmail)
Canada: $40 (+p& p $12 airmail)
Euros: E28 (+p & p E5)

Orders: MasterCard, Visa and Paypal on secure site

http://www.jgsgb.org.uk/shopping.shtml
http://www.jgsgb.org.uk/index.shtml

Saul Issroff
saul@issroff.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Jewish Memorial ( Yizkor) Books -UK #general

Saul Issroff <saul@...>
 

This e-mail is >from the Jewish Genealogical Society of Great Britain (JGSGB)

We wish to inform you of a recently published book:

Jewish memorial (Yizkor) books in UK - Destroyed European Communities

Cyril Fox & Saul Issroff. ISBN 0-9537669-5-0

Jewish Genealogical Society of Great Britain. London, 2006. 188 pages

This book is a unique listing of approximately 1,000 yizkor books and
memorbücher in 32 academic libraries in the United Kingdom.

Localities such as country or place names are listed alphabetically. The
original language(s) of each book are noted.

Bibliographic details about each entry, including the geographical
co-ordinates of specific towns or villages are given (because many places
have similar or even identical names).

A list of books translated or partly translated into English is given.

Smaller places, mentioned in yizkor books but not in the title of the book
are listed.

A detailed introduction explains the historical origins, the significance
and structure of yizkor books, the methods of compilation and the value to
historians and genealogists.

UK: GBP19-50 (+p & p GBP2)
USA: $35 (+ p & p $10 airmail)
Canada: $40 (+p& p $12 airmail)
Euros: E28 (+p & p E5)

Orders: MasterCard, Visa and Paypal on secure site

http://www.jgsgb.org.uk/shopping.shtml
http://www.jgsgb.org.uk/index.shtml

Saul Issroff
saul@issroff.com


Re Cemeteries in CT #southafrica

Beryl. B <balden@...>
 

Thanks Richard for your explanation.
I still maintain that the layout is incorrect and my
questions is "why". Cape Town doesn't have a
Yemenite community!

This subject in fact cropped up in the English Press
in Israel last week, although the
article was a general one applicable to the world,
hence my remembering that I had also
some time ago queried Cape Town.

In Israel all heads of Tombstones face the hills of
Jerusalem. Maybe that is where "I will lift up mine
eyes unto the hills" comes from! In Jerusalem itself
the facing is towards the Temple Mount.

Beryl Baleson.
Israel.


Subject: RE: Cemeteries in Cape Town
From: "Richard Newman" <genserch@msn.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 03:30:42 +0000

the story I heard was that because of the layout, the graves in nearly all
the cemeteries do not face Jerusalem. The graves in Pinelands 1 &2 are
facing Table Mountain, in keeping with the Psalm, I will lift up mine eyes
unto the hills.......
The burials are placed in alternate rows as all to face this direction.

Of course, the bigger question around the observant world is are the feet
closest to Jerusalem, or the head. If the head faces Jerusalem then the
rising body, b'viat hamashiach and tchiyas hamesim, would have their backs
to Jerusalem---not good. I have heard the Yeminites have the feet nearest
to Jerusalem, thus, upon arising would be facing in the correct direction.

Hope this adds some clarification, or othwerwise,

Richard Newman

I have asked this question on numerous
occasions and have not received a satisfactory
reply. Hopefully, this message will now bring the
answer for which I am looking.

All over the world the head of a Tombstone faces
Jerusalem, which means that Tombstones are one
next to the other in rows. In Pinelands cemetery in
particular, Tombstones are back to back. Therefore
not all heads of Tombstones are facing Jerusalem as is in Jewish
Tradition.

Is there a reason that Cape Town cemeteries are
different >from the norm?

Beryl Baleson
Israel.
balden@zahav.net.il


Re: Cemeteries in Cape Town #southafrica

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

Beryl:

In other postings on this subject on JewishGen, your basic assumption that
all tombstones all over the world face towards Jerusalem has been provden to
be erroneous.

I have been in cemeteries in quite a few places including America, South
Africa, Great Britain, Lithuania, etc., and they all have different setups
depending on the space given over to cemetery use, the terrain, etc.

Most are arranged higgledy pigledy as they are developed in sections,
although there are those which sometimes do face Jerusalem. The cemetery in
Rokiskis, Lithuania, for instance, is quite large and roams over hill and
dale with tombstones facing every which way.

Even in South Africa, cemeteries in places other than Cape Town do not
always follow the rule of facing towards Jerusalem that you espouse.

Another example is the cemetery where my parents are buried in South
Florida. A series of formal pathways are laid out throughout the cemetery
so you can drive through. On either side of the pathway, sometimes the
tombstones face each other and sometimes not and there is even a circular
ediface where there are burials. In my parents section, the tombstones face
south and not northeast towards Jerusalem.

There is even the wonderfully odd burial of colonial patriot Abram Simon in
America who was buried standing up with his rifle to "meet the devil face to
face".

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Re Cemeteries in CT #southafrica

Beryl. B <balden@...>
 

Thanks Richard for your explanation.
I still maintain that the layout is incorrect and my
questions is "why". Cape Town doesn't have a
Yemenite community!

This subject in fact cropped up in the English Press
in Israel last week, although the
article was a general one applicable to the world,
hence my remembering that I had also
some time ago queried Cape Town.

In Israel all heads of Tombstones face the hills of
Jerusalem. Maybe that is where "I will lift up mine
eyes unto the hills" comes from! In Jerusalem itself
the facing is towards the Temple Mount.

Beryl Baleson.
Israel.


Subject: RE: Cemeteries in Cape Town
From: "Richard Newman" <genserch@msn.com>
Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 03:30:42 +0000

the story I heard was that because of the layout, the graves in nearly all
the cemeteries do not face Jerusalem. The graves in Pinelands 1 &2 are
facing Table Mountain, in keeping with the Psalm, I will lift up mine eyes
unto the hills.......
The burials are placed in alternate rows as all to face this direction.

Of course, the bigger question around the observant world is are the feet
closest to Jerusalem, or the head. If the head faces Jerusalem then the
rising body, b'viat hamashiach and tchiyas hamesim, would have their backs
to Jerusalem---not good. I have heard the Yeminites have the feet nearest
to Jerusalem, thus, upon arising would be facing in the correct direction.

Hope this adds some clarification, or othwerwise,

Richard Newman

I have asked this question on numerous
occasions and have not received a satisfactory
reply. Hopefully, this message will now bring the
answer for which I am looking.

All over the world the head of a Tombstone faces
Jerusalem, which means that Tombstones are one
next to the other in rows. In Pinelands cemetery in
particular, Tombstones are back to back. Therefore
not all heads of Tombstones are facing Jerusalem as is in Jewish
Tradition.

Is there a reason that Cape Town cemeteries are
different >from the norm?

Beryl Baleson
Israel.
balden@zahav.net.il


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica RE: Cemeteries in Cape Town #southafrica

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

Beryl:

In other postings on this subject on JewishGen, your basic assumption that
all tombstones all over the world face towards Jerusalem has been provden to
be erroneous.

I have been in cemeteries in quite a few places including America, South
Africa, Great Britain, Lithuania, etc., and they all have different setups
depending on the space given over to cemetery use, the terrain, etc.

Most are arranged higgledy pigledy as they are developed in sections,
although there are those which sometimes do face Jerusalem. The cemetery in
Rokiskis, Lithuania, for instance, is quite large and roams over hill and
dale with tombstones facing every which way.

Even in South Africa, cemeteries in places other than Cape Town do not
always follow the rule of facing towards Jerusalem that you espouse.

Another example is the cemetery where my parents are buried in South
Florida. A series of formal pathways are laid out throughout the cemetery
so you can drive through. On either side of the pathway, sometimes the
tombstones face each other and sometimes not and there is even a circular
ediface where there are burials. In my parents section, the tombstones face
south and not northeast towards Jerusalem.

There is even the wonderfully odd burial of colonial patriot Abram Simon in
America who was buried standing up with his rifle to "meet the devil face to
face".

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net


Re: Cemeteries in Cape Town #southafrica

Beryl. B <balden@...>
 

You are correct re Synagogues, which in South Africa
should have the Aron Kodesh facing North East.

However my question re Pinelands Cemetery is more
in line with "why are the Tombstones back to back"
which means that one row of Tombstones is not facing
the correct direction.

I have tried to put this question as simple as possible,
taking into account that Pinelands Cemetery in Cape
Town was first opened in the 1940's when most
Eastern European immigrants had been settled in
South African for quite some while and it was not
the first Jewish Cemetery opened in Cape Town but
is the only cemetery that has its Tombstones back
to back and not in one line!

The facing Jerusalem of the Aron Kodesh in
Synagogues is world wide - so each country has
a different direction, depending on which direction
Jerusalem lies >from a particular country. >from South Africa
Jerusalem is North East.

Beryl Baleson
Israel.
balden@zahav.net.il.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ev and Col Plen" <evancol@iafrica.com>
To: "South Africa SIG" <safrica@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 8:07 AM
Subject: [safrica] Cemeteries in Cape Town


When the first Jews came to South Africa, to the best of my knowledge, the
belief was still to design houses of prayer to face towards Jerusalem, as
they had prayed in der heim, so their houses of prayer faced East or South,
as they would have in Europe. Only later did they take into account that
Jerusalem is North >from South Africa and shuls were built accordingly
thereafter. Maybe this has something to do with the way the graves faced?

Colin Plen


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Re: Cemeteries in Cape Town #southafrica

Beryl. B <balden@...>
 

You are correct re Synagogues, which in South Africa
should have the Aron Kodesh facing North East.

However my question re Pinelands Cemetery is more
in line with "why are the Tombstones back to back"
which means that one row of Tombstones is not facing
the correct direction.

I have tried to put this question as simple as possible,
taking into account that Pinelands Cemetery in Cape
Town was first opened in the 1940's when most
Eastern European immigrants had been settled in
South African for quite some while and it was not
the first Jewish Cemetery opened in Cape Town but
is the only cemetery that has its Tombstones back
to back and not in one line!

The facing Jerusalem of the Aron Kodesh in
Synagogues is world wide - so each country has
a different direction, depending on which direction
Jerusalem lies >from a particular country. >from South Africa
Jerusalem is North East.

Beryl Baleson
Israel.
balden@zahav.net.il.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ev and Col Plen" <evancol@iafrica.com>
To: "South Africa SIG" <safrica@lyris.jewishgen.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2006 8:07 AM
Subject: [safrica] Cemeteries in Cape Town


When the first Jews came to South Africa, to the best of my knowledge, the
belief was still to design houses of prayer to face towards Jerusalem, as
they had prayed in der heim, so their houses of prayer faced East or South,
as they would have in Europe. Only later did they take into account that
Jerusalem is North >from South Africa and shuls were built accordingly
thereafter. Maybe this has something to do with the way the graves faced?

Colin Plen


Cemeteries in Cape Town #southafrica

Colin Plen
 

When the first Jews came to South Africa, to the best of my knowledge, the
belief was still to design houses of prayer to face towards Jerusalem, as
they had prayed in der heim, so their houses of prayer faced East or South,
as they would have in Europe. Only later did they take into account that
Jerusalem is North >from South Africa and shuls were built accordingly
thereafter. Maybe this has something to do with the way the graves faced?

Colin Plen

I have asked this question on numerous
occasions and have not received a satisfactory
reply. Hopefully, this message will now bring the
answer for which I am looking.

All over the world the head of a Tombstone faces
Jerusalem, which means that Tombstones are one
next to the other in rows. In Pinelands cemetery in
particular, Tombstones are back to back. Therefore
not all heads of Tombstones are facing Jerusalem as is in Jewish
Tradition.

Is there a reason that Cape Town cemeteries are
different >from the norm?

Beryl Baleson
Israel.
balden@zahav.net.il


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Cemeteries in Cape Town #southafrica

Colin Plen
 

When the first Jews came to South Africa, to the best of my knowledge, the
belief was still to design houses of prayer to face towards Jerusalem, as
they had prayed in der heim, so their houses of prayer faced East or South,
as they would have in Europe. Only later did they take into account that
Jerusalem is North >from South Africa and shuls were built accordingly
thereafter. Maybe this has something to do with the way the graves faced?

Colin Plen

I have asked this question on numerous
occasions and have not received a satisfactory
reply. Hopefully, this message will now bring the
answer for which I am looking.

All over the world the head of a Tombstone faces
Jerusalem, which means that Tombstones are one
next to the other in rows. In Pinelands cemetery in
particular, Tombstones are back to back. Therefore
not all heads of Tombstones are facing Jerusalem as is in Jewish
Tradition.

Is there a reason that Cape Town cemeteries are
different >from the norm?

Beryl Baleson
Israel.
balden@zahav.net.il


Re: FULD - ABELES - Thank You! #germany

GundR.Reuther@...
 

Dear friends of GerSig and jcr-uk!

I was searching for Lily FULD and I found her by your help! It was like a
great puzzle! Many hints of yours helped me to find out her son and herself. In
Germany nobody remembered the families BAER - SANDER - FULD - ABELES
from Frankfurt I was looking for.
At the "Hessische Hauptstaatsarchiv" of Wiesbaden I was told
her first name and where she lived after war. So I described to the
discussion-group of Great Britain, too. Step by step I was helped. It would be
too much, to tell everything. But many, many hints were helpful! I try to answer
everybody but it could be I don't find every e-mail.

Once I was sad as I thought, I wouldn't get on, one lady consoled me: "Don't
give up!" Indeed! Thank you for this, I don't find your mail anymore!
I was searching for descendants of Friedrich Moritz ABELES, too. I got helpful
hints. Having found the family of Lily FULD I am connected to ABELES, too.
Now I'm going to find out how to contribute to JewishGen.

[ MODERATOR NOTE: A link to the JewishGen Contributions
web page is found at the top of every GerSIG E-mail.
www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/Contribute.html ]

Great thanks to all of you!

Rosl Reuther, Coburg Germany gundr.reuther@t-online.de


German SIG #Germany Re: FULD - ABELES - Thank You! #germany

GundR.Reuther@...
 

Dear friends of GerSig and jcr-uk!

I was searching for Lily FULD and I found her by your help! It was like a
great puzzle! Many hints of yours helped me to find out her son and herself. In
Germany nobody remembered the families BAER - SANDER - FULD - ABELES
from Frankfurt I was looking for.
At the "Hessische Hauptstaatsarchiv" of Wiesbaden I was told
her first name and where she lived after war. So I described to the
discussion-group of Great Britain, too. Step by step I was helped. It would be
too much, to tell everything. But many, many hints were helpful! I try to answer
everybody but it could be I don't find every e-mail.

Once I was sad as I thought, I wouldn't get on, one lady consoled me: "Don't
give up!" Indeed! Thank you for this, I don't find your mail anymore!
I was searching for descendants of Friedrich Moritz ABELES, too. I got helpful
hints. Having found the family of Lily FULD I am connected to ABELES, too.
Now I'm going to find out how to contribute to JewishGen.

[ MODERATOR NOTE: A link to the JewishGen Contributions
web page is found at the top of every GerSIG E-mail.
www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/Contribute.html ]

Great thanks to all of you!

Rosl Reuther, Coburg Germany gundr.reuther@t-online.de


Jebenhausen and Goeppingen name adoption lists - SITE CITE #germany

AHB <w.fritzsche@...>
 

Dear Siggers,
once again I was able to update my website with two more lists.
You can find the name adoption list of Jebenhausen 1821 under
www.a-h-b.de/AHB/Jebenhausen.htm
and a list of members of the Jewish community of Goeppingen
[Goppingen (with Umlaut)] under:

www.a-h-b.de/AHB/Goeppingen.htm

More lists are to be found under:

www.a-h-b.de/AHB/links_htm

With best regards

Wolfgang Fritzsche, Genealogist, Germany, near Mainz and Wiesbaden
<w.fritzsche@ewr-online.de>


German SIG #Germany Jebenhausen and Goeppingen name adoption lists - SITE CITE #germany

AHB <w.fritzsche@...>
 

Dear Siggers,
once again I was able to update my website with two more lists.
You can find the name adoption list of Jebenhausen 1821 under
www.a-h-b.de/AHB/Jebenhausen.htm
and a list of members of the Jewish community of Goeppingen
[Goppingen (with Umlaut)] under:

www.a-h-b.de/AHB/Goeppingen.htm

More lists are to be found under:

www.a-h-b.de/AHB/links_htm

With best regards

Wolfgang Fritzsche, Genealogist, Germany, near Mainz and Wiesbaden
<w.fritzsche@ewr-online.de>