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Re: Travel requirements to Israel since 2004 #southafrica

Rosalind
 

While you may well be correct it is not obvious that the SA government
allows dual citizenship.
How does one ascertain whether one is still considered a SA citizen?
Apparently it takes a couple of years to obtain that passport. Meantime can
one travel there?
Ros Romem

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hayyim.E" <balden@...>
To: "South Africa SIG" <safrica@...>
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 1:19 PM
Subject: [safrica] Travel requirements to Israel since 2004


I don't think this should become an issue.
The South African Embassy and your travel agent
in your country of residence would be able to give
all necessary details. In Israel the travel agents are
telling former S.A. travelling on an Israeli passport
that they must now have a South African passport
for travel to South Africa.
Obviously the new government has brought out a new
law allowing dual citizenship which was not previously
allowed.

Beryl Baleson
Israel.


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Re: Travel requirements to Israel since 2004 #southafrica

Rosalind
 

While you may well be correct it is not obvious that the SA government
allows dual citizenship.
How does one ascertain whether one is still considered a SA citizen?
Apparently it takes a couple of years to obtain that passport. Meantime can
one travel there?
Ros Romem

----- Original Message -----
From: "Hayyim.E" <balden@...>
To: "South Africa SIG" <safrica@...>
Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 1:19 PM
Subject: [safrica] Travel requirements to Israel since 2004


I don't think this should become an issue.
The South African Embassy and your travel agent
in your country of residence would be able to give
all necessary details. In Israel the travel agents are
telling former S.A. travelling on an Israeli passport
that they must now have a South African passport
for travel to South Africa.
Obviously the new government has brought out a new
law allowing dual citizenship which was not previously
allowed.

Beryl Baleson
Israel.


SA Passport issue #southafrica

Alexander Friedlander
 

For what this is worth, my brother (Canadian passport) and I (USA passport), I
have been in S. Africa twice this year, most recently in June. On neither
occasion was any comment made regarding our citizenship, neither when we arrived
nor when we left. I left SA in 1977, my brother in 1993.

I am not a lawyer, but I do specialize in written communication; I thus read the
press release on the indicated website
(http://home-affairs.pwv.gov.za/media_releases.asp) as referring only to those
who hold dual citizenship. The second and final paragraphs of this release are
explicit on this point.

Now if you look at the Act itself (), it repeals section 9 of Act 88 of 1995. The repealed section 9 refers to SA citizens who "ALSO [hold] the citizenship of another country". (emphasis added)

Finally, the site below (referenced in an earlier email, but referring to a
different newsletter) refers to the change in the law and describes this change
as affecting dual citizenship holders:

http://www.immigration-sa.co.za/newsletter/no32.htm

Alexander Friedlander
<friedlac@...>


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica SA Passport issue #southafrica

Alexander Friedlander
 

For what this is worth, my brother (Canadian passport) and I (USA passport), I
have been in S. Africa twice this year, most recently in June. On neither
occasion was any comment made regarding our citizenship, neither when we arrived
nor when we left. I left SA in 1977, my brother in 1993.

I am not a lawyer, but I do specialize in written communication; I thus read the
press release on the indicated website
(http://home-affairs.pwv.gov.za/media_releases.asp) as referring only to those
who hold dual citizenship. The second and final paragraphs of this release are
explicit on this point.

Now if you look at the Act itself (), it repeals section 9 of Act 88 of 1995. The repealed section 9 refers to SA citizens who "ALSO [hold] the citizenship of another country". (emphasis added)

Finally, the site below (referenced in an earlier email, but referring to a
different newsletter) refers to the change in the law and describes this change
as affecting dual citizenship holders:

http://www.immigration-sa.co.za/newsletter/no32.htm

Alexander Friedlander
<friedlac@...>


2006 IAJGS Achievement Awards #general

Renee Steinig <rsteinig@...>
 

We are delighted to announce the recipients of the 2006 IAJGS
Achievement Awards. The winners accepted their award plaques at the
banquet held on Thursday evening, Aug. 17, at the NY2006 Jewish
genealogy conference.

These honorees were selected >from a large field of outstanding
candidates, whose number and achievements reflect the vitality of
our Jewish genealogy community. Many thanks to all the member
societies who participated the nomination process and kudos to all
the nominees for their remarkable accomplishments.

The winners:

IAJGS Lifetime Achievement Award
-- Stephen P. Morse

"Recognizing his ongoing work to enhance access to online databases.
His versatile 'One-Step' programs have become essential tools for
thousands of Jewish genealogists. Thanks to his extraordinary skill
and creativity, researchers have made critical discoveries in
immigration, census, and vital records, as well as numerous other
databases, and they have overcome hurdles presented by unfamiliar
alphabets and languages. Extending his generosity beyond cyberspace,
he has also lectured widely at conferences and to local societies,
contributing to their growth and furthering learning."

Outstanding Contribution to Jewish Genealogy
via the Internet, Print or Electronic Product
-- Ada Green

"Recognizing her devoted and meticulous efforts to record burials
in Jewish cemeteries in the New York City area and beyond. Since
1995 she has documented over 180 burial society and landsmanshaft
plots and has single-handedly cataloged over 36,000 gravestone
inscriptions worldwide. She has made records accessible to all on
JewishGen and has encouraged and guided individuals and groups
undertaking other transcription projects. Her tireless work is a
model to other volunteers and a mitzvah to the Jewish souls whose
memories she has rescued >from oblivion."

Outstanding Programming or Project that Advances
the Objectives of Jewish Genealogy
-- Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Philadelphia

"For creating searchable online databases of Philadelphia's
Blitzstein and Lipshutz "ethnic bank" records. These records
detail steamship ticket purchases made in the United States,
primarily for family members in the "old country." Previously
available only in ledgers at the Philadelphia Jewish Archives
Center and on microfilm, 55,000 records spanning 50 years of
immigration to the Port of Philadelphia are now accessible to
researchers worldwide on JewishGen. For some, the records have
provided the first written evidence of their ancestral towns."

Outstanding Publication by a Member Organization of IAJGS
-- Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Boston

"Recognizing the excellence of its quarterly journal MASS-POCHA
which informs JGSGB members as well as readers worldwide. Notable
features include the variety and originality of its articles,
in-depth coverage of guest lectures and the unique resource lists
that supplement many articles. A consistent and attractive layout,
appealing graphic design, effective use of photographs and
illustrations and high editorial standards further enhance the
impact of this exemplary publication."

IAJGS Achievement Awards Committee
Carol Davidson Baird
Hal Bookbinder
Joel Spector
Renee Stern Steinig, Chair
Ignacio Sternberg


EYSMANN, GLADSTEIN #general

Joan Rimmon
 

Dear Genners,

Before the very successful IAJGS conference in NYC we went up to Syracuse to
meet some heretofore unknown cousins. By roaming through some old address
books of their mother we found some names of possible cousins.

Now I am seeking the children of Ralph and Joan EYSMANN GLADSTEIN. I believe
they lived in New Jersey. The son of David EYSMANN, who I understand lived
in Massachusettes. And the children of Daph(a)ne EYSMANN, whose children may
have had the last names CAHILL or WILE. They lived in Indiana, possibly in
Lafayette.

If anyone knows these families, please contact me personally at
Joangr@.... I will be eternally grateful.

Many thanks for former Jewishgen "helpers" in my quest for family members.

Joan Glanz RIMMON, Los Angeles

Seeking:
Germany: NUSBAUM/NUSSBAUM (kohanim) (Erdemannrode), LANGSDORF (Battenberg),
WEINBERG (Storndorf), STERN (Nieder Ohmen), ROSENSTOCK (Tann bei Fulda),
LEVISTEIN (Geisa), KATZ (Altenkirchen), FRANK (unknown city of origin, but
emigrated to US beofre 1860).
Poltava:
KNOPPOW, KNOPOV, BUDNITZKY

Searching list truncated at six lines -- Mod.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen 2006 IAJGS Achievement Awards #general

Renee Steinig <rsteinig@...>
 

We are delighted to announce the recipients of the 2006 IAJGS
Achievement Awards. The winners accepted their award plaques at the
banquet held on Thursday evening, Aug. 17, at the NY2006 Jewish
genealogy conference.

These honorees were selected >from a large field of outstanding
candidates, whose number and achievements reflect the vitality of
our Jewish genealogy community. Many thanks to all the member
societies who participated the nomination process and kudos to all
the nominees for their remarkable accomplishments.

The winners:

IAJGS Lifetime Achievement Award
-- Stephen P. Morse

"Recognizing his ongoing work to enhance access to online databases.
His versatile 'One-Step' programs have become essential tools for
thousands of Jewish genealogists. Thanks to his extraordinary skill
and creativity, researchers have made critical discoveries in
immigration, census, and vital records, as well as numerous other
databases, and they have overcome hurdles presented by unfamiliar
alphabets and languages. Extending his generosity beyond cyberspace,
he has also lectured widely at conferences and to local societies,
contributing to their growth and furthering learning."

Outstanding Contribution to Jewish Genealogy
via the Internet, Print or Electronic Product
-- Ada Green

"Recognizing her devoted and meticulous efforts to record burials
in Jewish cemeteries in the New York City area and beyond. Since
1995 she has documented over 180 burial society and landsmanshaft
plots and has single-handedly cataloged over 36,000 gravestone
inscriptions worldwide. She has made records accessible to all on
JewishGen and has encouraged and guided individuals and groups
undertaking other transcription projects. Her tireless work is a
model to other volunteers and a mitzvah to the Jewish souls whose
memories she has rescued >from oblivion."

Outstanding Programming or Project that Advances
the Objectives of Jewish Genealogy
-- Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Philadelphia

"For creating searchable online databases of Philadelphia's
Blitzstein and Lipshutz "ethnic bank" records. These records
detail steamship ticket purchases made in the United States,
primarily for family members in the "old country." Previously
available only in ledgers at the Philadelphia Jewish Archives
Center and on microfilm, 55,000 records spanning 50 years of
immigration to the Port of Philadelphia are now accessible to
researchers worldwide on JewishGen. For some, the records have
provided the first written evidence of their ancestral towns."

Outstanding Publication by a Member Organization of IAJGS
-- Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Boston

"Recognizing the excellence of its quarterly journal MASS-POCHA
which informs JGSGB members as well as readers worldwide. Notable
features include the variety and originality of its articles,
in-depth coverage of guest lectures and the unique resource lists
that supplement many articles. A consistent and attractive layout,
appealing graphic design, effective use of photographs and
illustrations and high editorial standards further enhance the
impact of this exemplary publication."

IAJGS Achievement Awards Committee
Carol Davidson Baird
Hal Bookbinder
Joel Spector
Renee Stern Steinig, Chair
Ignacio Sternberg


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen EYSMANN, GLADSTEIN #general

Joan Rimmon
 

Dear Genners,

Before the very successful IAJGS conference in NYC we went up to Syracuse to
meet some heretofore unknown cousins. By roaming through some old address
books of their mother we found some names of possible cousins.

Now I am seeking the children of Ralph and Joan EYSMANN GLADSTEIN. I believe
they lived in New Jersey. The son of David EYSMANN, who I understand lived
in Massachusettes. And the children of Daph(a)ne EYSMANN, whose children may
have had the last names CAHILL or WILE. They lived in Indiana, possibly in
Lafayette.

If anyone knows these families, please contact me personally at
Joangr@.... I will be eternally grateful.

Many thanks for former Jewishgen "helpers" in my quest for family members.

Joan Glanz RIMMON, Los Angeles

Seeking:
Germany: NUSBAUM/NUSSBAUM (kohanim) (Erdemannrode), LANGSDORF (Battenberg),
WEINBERG (Storndorf), STERN (Nieder Ohmen), ROSENSTOCK (Tann bei Fulda),
LEVISTEIN (Geisa), KATZ (Altenkirchen), FRANK (unknown city of origin, but
emigrated to US beofre 1860).
Poltava:
KNOPPOW, KNOPOV, BUDNITZKY

Searching list truncated at six lines -- Mod.


BIDERMAN, BIEDERMAN #general

David Ferleger
 

Greetings - If anyone is researching the names BIDERMAN or BIEDERMAN,
please let me know. This was a well known rabbinic
family which apparently has some connection to my family.

Thank you

David
david @ ferleger.com

MODERATOR NOTE: Please enter your search in the JewishGen Family Finder
at http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/. This will give it much wider exposure.
Many researchers of this name are already listed.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen BIDERMAN, BIEDERMAN #general

David Ferleger
 

Greetings - If anyone is researching the names BIDERMAN or BIEDERMAN,
please let me know. This was a well known rabbinic
family which apparently has some connection to my family.

Thank you

David
david @ ferleger.com

MODERATOR NOTE: Please enter your search in the JewishGen Family Finder
at http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff/. This will give it much wider exposure.
Many researchers of this name are already listed.


EISENBERG: VM Success Story and Thanks #general

Martha Lasser <marthagenealogy@...>
 

Dear Friends:

Thanks go to Bill Everett, David Price and Max
Polonvski for their work in translating my
great-grandfather Baruch Meyer EISENBERG's marriage
registration.

Also, thanks to David Goldman for his offer of
assistance.

But most deeply my thanks go to all JewGenners who
have contributed to the many indicies that provide a
window into the past. Not only have I found eleven
records of the EISENBERG family of Kaluszyn, but this
day I have also found the Holocaust record of Abram
Yankiel EISENBERG, our uncle, who perished with the
Jews of the Brest Ghetto.

(And yes, I have made a donation to JewishGen in
thanks and in memory of my father-in-law Samuel Lasser
who was so supportive of my genealogy work.)

Sincerely,
Martha Eisenberg Lasser


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen EISENBERG: VM Success Story and Thanks #general

Martha Lasser <marthagenealogy@...>
 

Dear Friends:

Thanks go to Bill Everett, David Price and Max
Polonvski for their work in translating my
great-grandfather Baruch Meyer EISENBERG's marriage
registration.

Also, thanks to David Goldman for his offer of
assistance.

But most deeply my thanks go to all JewGenners who
have contributed to the many indicies that provide a
window into the past. Not only have I found eleven
records of the EISENBERG family of Kaluszyn, but this
day I have also found the Holocaust record of Abram
Yankiel EISENBERG, our uncle, who perished with the
Jews of the Brest Ghetto.

(And yes, I have made a donation to JewishGen in
thanks and in memory of my father-in-law Samuel Lasser
who was so supportive of my genealogy work.)

Sincerely,
Martha Eisenberg Lasser


Re: WW I German military cemeteries #general

Pweinthal@...
 

Here is one written source which supports the assertion that 100,000
Jews served in the German military during WW1.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/modtimeline.html

1916 - Germany accuses Jews of evading active service in WWI, despite
100,000 Jews serving, 12% higher than their population ratio.

As an aside - everybody on this list should bookmark the Jewish Virtual
Library which is touted as the most comprehensive online Jewish
encyclopedia in the world.

regards,
Pat Weinthal
Boston, MA

"Joachim Mugdan" <mugdan@...> wrote:

according to which some 100,000 Jews served in the German armed forces in
WW I. This study also gives the figure of 12,000 Jews killed in action; the
Memorial Book lists 10,623 of them. The book does not include men who had
officially left Judaism (even though halachically they were Jewish
nonetheless). I hope this helps to clarify matters.
"Nick" <tulse04-news@...> wrote:

I am a statistician by training and 100,000 Jews serving in the German
armed forces in WWI out of a total Jewish population of, say, half a
million seems highly questionable


Re: Translation from Hebrew - two tombstones #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

At 8:53 PM +0200 8/26/06, Klausner wrote (in answer to my question):
Can anyone shed light on why a family might> actually describe a
deceased member as ishah
kesherah? Is it a technical term of some kind?
Yocheved replied

** Please have a look at JOWBR inscriptions and translations: tens
of matzevot read Isha Kshera, along with other attributes, as Isha
Hashuva, Isha Kvuda etc. We usually translate Isha Kshera = a decent
woman, just as Isha Hashuva is translated: an esteemed woman (not
an important woman).
Dear Yocheved,

Many thanks for verifying that kesherah is an adjective quite
commonly used to describe a deceased woman. Thanks also to Mathilde
Tagger for the information she supplied.

Since the word kasher literally means "fitting" or "suitable," does
it use imply specifically that the departed woman had conducted
herself "in a fitting/ seemly manner"?

Also, do we find the adjective kasher used with equal frequency to
described a deceased man? If the answer is yes -- end of story.
But if the answer turns out to be no, I would wonder about the
sociological significance of gender distinctions in adjectives used
on tombstones to describe the departed. If it was especially
praiseworthy for a woman (as opposed to a man) to conduct herself in
a "fitting" or "seemly" manner, would this imply that she behaved
modestly or unobtrusively -- in other words, that she "kept her
place" in traditional Jewish culture?

I went to the JOWBR site as advised , but --probably due to my being
electronically challenged -- I could not figure out how to locate
lists of adjectives used on stones. Perhaps Yocheved or Mathilde
could tell us whether the adjectives found on men's stones are
similar to or different >from the those found for women I would
particularly like to know whether men are described as " ish kasher"
as often as is the case for women.

Judith Romney Wegner


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: WW I German military cemeteries #general

Pweinthal@...
 

Here is one written source which supports the assertion that 100,000
Jews served in the German military during WW1.

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/History/modtimeline.html

1916 - Germany accuses Jews of evading active service in WWI, despite
100,000 Jews serving, 12% higher than their population ratio.

As an aside - everybody on this list should bookmark the Jewish Virtual
Library which is touted as the most comprehensive online Jewish
encyclopedia in the world.

regards,
Pat Weinthal
Boston, MA

"Joachim Mugdan" <mugdan@...> wrote:

according to which some 100,000 Jews served in the German armed forces in
WW I. This study also gives the figure of 12,000 Jews killed in action; the
Memorial Book lists 10,623 of them. The book does not include men who had
officially left Judaism (even though halachically they were Jewish
nonetheless). I hope this helps to clarify matters.
"Nick" <tulse04-news@...> wrote:

I am a statistician by training and 100,000 Jews serving in the German
armed forces in WWI out of a total Jewish population of, say, half a
million seems highly questionable


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Translation from Hebrew - two tombstones #general

Judith Romney Wegner
 

At 8:53 PM +0200 8/26/06, Klausner wrote (in answer to my question):
Can anyone shed light on why a family might> actually describe a
deceased member as ishah
kesherah? Is it a technical term of some kind?
Yocheved replied

** Please have a look at JOWBR inscriptions and translations: tens
of matzevot read Isha Kshera, along with other attributes, as Isha
Hashuva, Isha Kvuda etc. We usually translate Isha Kshera = a decent
woman, just as Isha Hashuva is translated: an esteemed woman (not
an important woman).
Dear Yocheved,

Many thanks for verifying that kesherah is an adjective quite
commonly used to describe a deceased woman. Thanks also to Mathilde
Tagger for the information she supplied.

Since the word kasher literally means "fitting" or "suitable," does
it use imply specifically that the departed woman had conducted
herself "in a fitting/ seemly manner"?

Also, do we find the adjective kasher used with equal frequency to
described a deceased man? If the answer is yes -- end of story.
But if the answer turns out to be no, I would wonder about the
sociological significance of gender distinctions in adjectives used
on tombstones to describe the departed. If it was especially
praiseworthy for a woman (as opposed to a man) to conduct herself in
a "fitting" or "seemly" manner, would this imply that she behaved
modestly or unobtrusively -- in other words, that she "kept her
place" in traditional Jewish culture?

I went to the JOWBR site as advised , but --probably due to my being
electronically challenged -- I could not figure out how to locate
lists of adjectives used on stones. Perhaps Yocheved or Mathilde
could tell us whether the adjectives found on men's stones are
similar to or different >from the those found for women I would
particularly like to know whether men are described as " ish kasher"
as often as is the case for women.

Judith Romney Wegner


Re: Jewish Confederate Soldier - Omaha #general

L. Altman <fusgeyer@...>
 

Marian:
Why Nebraska? Several reasons - starting in 1864 there
were the * Indian insurrections * and soldiers were
needed to protect the interests of the settlers and
the US government. You are correct about the term
Galvanized Yankee. There was another reason to go to
Nebraska - GOLD! Nebraska was a cross road for those
going to and returning >from the CA gold rush. In 1874
the Black Hills had their own gold rush.

You should try to locate the military files for John
Merritt. This will have great information in it. If he
went to NE as a soldier in the Indian wars he will
have a US military record as well as a Confederate
one. He may have recieved a pension, of if he did not
then his wife or children may have applied for one
after he died. These files are a great resource. Don't
just stop with a pension file, get the records from
the adjutant general, and get the records for his
unit. Also if a pension was denied get the records if
they appealed (and the families almost always
appealed). Is he listed on the 1890 Veterans Schedule?
Hope this helps.
Linda Altman
1st Vice President - North Carolina Genealogy Society
Raleigh NC

--- Marian Merritt <mmerritt@...> wrote:

I'm researching my husband's great-grandfather, John Merritt (London,
England > Louisiana > Omaha). He was a Confederate Soldier who moved to
Omaha right after the war. I'm curious to know why a Jewish person from
the "wrong side of the war" would choose to move west, unless he was
rejoining family. I'm interested to hear suggestions that might indicate
new research paths for me. You've already helped me enormously!


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Jewish Confederate Soldier - Omaha #general

L. Altman <fusgeyer@...>
 

Marian:
Why Nebraska? Several reasons - starting in 1864 there
were the * Indian insurrections * and soldiers were
needed to protect the interests of the settlers and
the US government. You are correct about the term
Galvanized Yankee. There was another reason to go to
Nebraska - GOLD! Nebraska was a cross road for those
going to and returning >from the CA gold rush. In 1874
the Black Hills had their own gold rush.

You should try to locate the military files for John
Merritt. This will have great information in it. If he
went to NE as a soldier in the Indian wars he will
have a US military record as well as a Confederate
one. He may have recieved a pension, of if he did not
then his wife or children may have applied for one
after he died. These files are a great resource. Don't
just stop with a pension file, get the records from
the adjutant general, and get the records for his
unit. Also if a pension was denied get the records if
they appealed (and the families almost always
appealed). Is he listed on the 1890 Veterans Schedule?
Hope this helps.
Linda Altman
1st Vice President - North Carolina Genealogy Society
Raleigh NC

--- Marian Merritt <mmerritt@...> wrote:

I'm researching my husband's great-grandfather, John Merritt (London,
England > Louisiana > Omaha). He was a Confederate Soldier who moved to
Omaha right after the war. I'm curious to know why a Jewish person from
the "wrong side of the war" would choose to move west, unless he was
rejoining family. I'm interested to hear suggestions that might indicate
new research paths for me. You've already helped me enormously!


Looking for OSTROFF from Philadelphia #general

Chuck Weinstein <chuck.weinstein@...>
 

I am looking for descendants of Lillian OSTROFF, born 1918 in Philadelphia.
Her parents were David and Bertha CUTLER OSTROFF. Bertha died in 1933 and
the family moved to NYC in 1935, where David subsequently remarried.
Lillian may have married a man named DIAMOND.

Lillian's cousin in California has pictures of her parents and family that
she wishes to pass on to her or her descendants. If anyone has information,
please contact me and I will put the two of you in touch.

Chuck Weinstein
Huntington Station, NY
cmw521@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Looking for OSTROFF from Philadelphia #general

Chuck Weinstein <chuck.weinstein@...>
 

I am looking for descendants of Lillian OSTROFF, born 1918 in Philadelphia.
Her parents were David and Bertha CUTLER OSTROFF. Bertha died in 1933 and
the family moved to NYC in 1935, where David subsequently remarried.
Lillian may have married a man named DIAMOND.

Lillian's cousin in California has pictures of her parents and family that
she wishes to pass on to her or her descendants. If anyone has information,
please contact me and I will put the two of you in touch.

Chuck Weinstein
Huntington Station, NY
cmw521@...