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Conference Highlights #2 - New Exhibitor Booth & Booth Talks #germany

Groll, Avraham
 

Dear JewishGen Family,

JewishGen had a very successful and productive experience at the 37th
annual IAJGS Conference (which was held July 23-28 in Orlando, FL),
offering an outstanding variety of sessions, workshops, and luncheons
throughout its duration. During these weeks following the conference,
we are posting highlights of our activity, including a review of some
of the major announcements which were first unveiled at the conference.
The previous issue can be accessed here:
http://tinyurl.com/IAJGS2017-A

Today's focus is on JewishGen's new Exhibitor Booth. We designed this
booth with the intention of offering a more professional experience,
and plan to use it as we expand our marketing efforts and promote
JewishGen to a much wider audience. As part of this strategy, we also
debuted our "Booth Talks" program, whereby JewishGen experts offered
booth visitors a short, five minute presentation on a particular topic.
This enabled conference participants an opportunity to connect with
experts, while giving JewishGen staff the opportunity to engage, and
forge new connections. Throughout the conference, hundreds of people
stopped by the booth, >from JewishGen volunteers, donors, users, members
of other organizations, and even some of the hotel staff. Here are some
highlights:

(1) Yizkor Books: A member of the JewishGen family walked up to the
booth, pulled an old book out of her bag, and asked Rebecca Schaeffer (a
member of the booth team, and Assistant to the Director) if she could
identify it. Rebecca explained that it was a Yizkor (memorial) book,
written by Holocaust survivors to perpetuate the history and heritage of
towns which once had thriving Jewish communities. Visibly moved, the
individual asked if there was a translated version in English, and when
she was given the link to the translated book on JewishGen, and started
reading it, she broke down in tears.

(2) Great-Great Grandfathers Matzeiva (Tombstone): Another individual
stopped by and expressed her longing to find any information about her
great-great-grandfather. Nolan Altman (VP for Data Acquisition) was
there, did a quick search on JOWBR (JewishGen's Online Worldwide Burial
Registry) and helped her find the record for the gravestone of her great-
great-grandfather, which also included the name of her great-great-great-
grandfather!

(3)Bar/Bat Mitzvah Projects: A member of the JewishGen family stopped by
the booth, saw the literature about JewishGen's Memorial Plaques Project,
and was so inspired that he committed to having his synagogue's youth
department participate.

(4) Possible Connections: An individual was thrilled to discover the
JewishGen Family Finder, and that there were 90 people researching the
same town she was.

To view a listing of the Booth Talks which took place at the conference,
along with a few pictures, please visit:
http://tinyurl.com/BoothTalks2017

Please stay tuned for more updates.

Avraham Groll, Director JewishGen.org


German SIG #Germany Conference Highlights #2 - New Exhibitor Booth & Booth Talks #germany

Groll, Avraham
 

Dear JewishGen Family,

JewishGen had a very successful and productive experience at the 37th
annual IAJGS Conference (which was held July 23-28 in Orlando, FL),
offering an outstanding variety of sessions, workshops, and luncheons
throughout its duration. During these weeks following the conference,
we are posting highlights of our activity, including a review of some
of the major announcements which were first unveiled at the conference.
The previous issue can be accessed here:
http://tinyurl.com/IAJGS2017-A

Today's focus is on JewishGen's new Exhibitor Booth. We designed this
booth with the intention of offering a more professional experience,
and plan to use it as we expand our marketing efforts and promote
JewishGen to a much wider audience. As part of this strategy, we also
debuted our "Booth Talks" program, whereby JewishGen experts offered
booth visitors a short, five minute presentation on a particular topic.
This enabled conference participants an opportunity to connect with
experts, while giving JewishGen staff the opportunity to engage, and
forge new connections. Throughout the conference, hundreds of people
stopped by the booth, >from JewishGen volunteers, donors, users, members
of other organizations, and even some of the hotel staff. Here are some
highlights:

(1) Yizkor Books: A member of the JewishGen family walked up to the
booth, pulled an old book out of her bag, and asked Rebecca Schaeffer (a
member of the booth team, and Assistant to the Director) if she could
identify it. Rebecca explained that it was a Yizkor (memorial) book,
written by Holocaust survivors to perpetuate the history and heritage of
towns which once had thriving Jewish communities. Visibly moved, the
individual asked if there was a translated version in English, and when
she was given the link to the translated book on JewishGen, and started
reading it, she broke down in tears.

(2) Great-Great Grandfathers Matzeiva (Tombstone): Another individual
stopped by and expressed her longing to find any information about her
great-great-grandfather. Nolan Altman (VP for Data Acquisition) was
there, did a quick search on JOWBR (JewishGen's Online Worldwide Burial
Registry) and helped her find the record for the gravestone of her great-
great-grandfather, which also included the name of her great-great-great-
grandfather!

(3)Bar/Bat Mitzvah Projects: A member of the JewishGen family stopped by
the booth, saw the literature about JewishGen's Memorial Plaques Project,
and was so inspired that he committed to having his synagogue's youth
department participate.

(4) Possible Connections: An individual was thrilled to discover the
JewishGen Family Finder, and that there were 90 people researching the
same town she was.

To view a listing of the Booth Talks which took place at the conference,
along with a few pictures, please visit:
http://tinyurl.com/BoothTalks2017

Please stay tuned for more updates.

Avraham Groll, Director JewishGen.org


SCHOENWALTERS from Markt Berolzheim #germany

Lin <lin2@...>
 

Dear GerSIG Friends,
I'm trying to figure out how to connect my SCHOENWALTER family
from Markt Berolzheim, Bavaria, to another family I found in FTJP or
just to get more information.

My 3x great grandmother was Resele SCHOENWALTER who married Emanuel HERZ
from Markt Berolzheim. He was born circa 1775-1785. According to the
family tree drawn out my grandfather, Max LEVI, Resele's father
was Hirsch (SCHOENWALTER) (he probably had no last name) and her mother
was Gitel.

The other SCHOENWALTER in the family was Siegfried SCHOENWALTER, born 12
July 1886 in Markt Berolzheim who married Sophia /Sofie HERZ (1892-1973)
from Markt Berozheim. They had a daughter Erna SCHOENWALTER who married
Max OPPENHEIM (1921 Markt Berolzheim- 1981- New York).

On the Jewish Gen Family Finder I found a gentleman in Israel who has a
Hirsch Naftali SCHOENWALTER >from Markt Berolzheim (date unknown) on his
tree. Hirsch married Vogele GUTTMANN and had a child Seligmann Hirsch
SCHOENWALTER in 1848. The family immigrated to Israel in about 1938.

Does anyone know more about the SCHOENWALTER family? I have the
information taking Sofie and Siegfried's family to the present.
But we are unable to go back or connect the two SCHOENWALTER families.
I'm hoping perhaps I'll be lucky and someone here has
SCHOENWALTERs >from Markt Berolzheim in their tree or an idea of where I
can go for help.

thank you so much!
< ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >
Please thank those who help you and support ViewMate, JewishGen
and GerSIG
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/Honors/
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/honors.asp

Sincerely, Lin Herz Palm Bay, Florida lin2@cfl.rr.com


Seeking information on Freda D. MILLER and family #germany

Monica Dale Pantano <monica.dale.pantano@...>
 

Hello,

I am seeking any information about Freda D. MILLER.

Among minimal genealogical information I have found, her mother
Martha was >from Germany and the family spoke German.

Freda D. MILLER was born in New York (likely the Bronx) around 1911, and
died May 25, 1960, perhaps suddenly. Her father, Moses MILLER, was born
in New York, as were Freda and her brother Irving (born around 1907).

(Irving seems to have married Fay, and they had a daughter named Paula
born around 1933).

There the trail ends, as far as I can fathom.

Freda D. MILLER was a composer and pianist for modern dance classes,
particularly at the 92nd St. Y in New York City, and she produced a
series of five LPs. As a music/dance historian, writer, and teacher, I
want to honor her work and share it with today's young dancers,
and would like to connect with anyone who could shed some light on the
mysteries of this brilliant woman.

Many thanks for any information you might provide! Sincerely,

Monica Pantano, Ellicott City, MD 21042


German SIG #Germany SCHOENWALTERS from Markt Berolzheim #germany

Lin <lin2@...>
 

Dear GerSIG Friends,
I'm trying to figure out how to connect my SCHOENWALTER family
from Markt Berolzheim, Bavaria, to another family I found in FTJP or
just to get more information.

My 3x great grandmother was Resele SCHOENWALTER who married Emanuel HERZ
from Markt Berolzheim. He was born circa 1775-1785. According to the
family tree drawn out my grandfather, Max LEVI, Resele's father
was Hirsch (SCHOENWALTER) (he probably had no last name) and her mother
was Gitel.

The other SCHOENWALTER in the family was Siegfried SCHOENWALTER, born 12
July 1886 in Markt Berolzheim who married Sophia /Sofie HERZ (1892-1973)
from Markt Berozheim. They had a daughter Erna SCHOENWALTER who married
Max OPPENHEIM (1921 Markt Berolzheim- 1981- New York).

On the Jewish Gen Family Finder I found a gentleman in Israel who has a
Hirsch Naftali SCHOENWALTER >from Markt Berolzheim (date unknown) on his
tree. Hirsch married Vogele GUTTMANN and had a child Seligmann Hirsch
SCHOENWALTER in 1848. The family immigrated to Israel in about 1938.

Does anyone know more about the SCHOENWALTER family? I have the
information taking Sofie and Siegfried's family to the present.
But we are unable to go back or connect the two SCHOENWALTER families.
I'm hoping perhaps I'll be lucky and someone here has
SCHOENWALTERs >from Markt Berolzheim in their tree or an idea of where I
can go for help.

thank you so much!
< ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >
Please thank those who help you and support ViewMate, JewishGen
and GerSIG
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/Honors/
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/honors.asp

Sincerely, Lin Herz Palm Bay, Florida lin2@cfl.rr.com


German SIG #Germany Seeking information on Freda D. MILLER and family #germany

Monica Dale Pantano <monica.dale.pantano@...>
 

Hello,

I am seeking any information about Freda D. MILLER.

Among minimal genealogical information I have found, her mother
Martha was >from Germany and the family spoke German.

Freda D. MILLER was born in New York (likely the Bronx) around 1911, and
died May 25, 1960, perhaps suddenly. Her father, Moses MILLER, was born
in New York, as were Freda and her brother Irving (born around 1907).

(Irving seems to have married Fay, and they had a daughter named Paula
born around 1933).

There the trail ends, as far as I can fathom.

Freda D. MILLER was a composer and pianist for modern dance classes,
particularly at the 92nd St. Y in New York City, and she produced a
series of five LPs. As a music/dance historian, writer, and teacher, I
want to honor her work and share it with today's young dancers,
and would like to connect with anyone who could shed some light on the
mysteries of this brilliant woman.

Many thanks for any information you might provide! Sincerely,

Monica Pantano, Ellicott City, MD 21042


Jews of Eindhoven, Netherlands 1940 - 1945 - CITE SITE #germany

Barbara Algaze
 

There is a 78 page book about the Jews in Eindhoven, Netherlands >from 1940 -
1945.

It is written in Dutch

and is located on the web at: http://tinyurl.com/ycjmol3q
https://stichting18september.nl/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Boek-Joodse-gemeenschap-06-2010.pdf

Starting at page 54, it has a 20 page list of all the Jews who were living
there at that time, with names, dates and places of birth, address, and when
and where they ended up (i.e. names of Concentration Camps.)

This is followed by two pages listing the names of all the Jews who were
born in Eindhoven >from 1940 - 1945.
I hope you will find this interesting in your research going forward.

Barbara Algaze, Los Angeles, California Algaze3@gmail.com


German SIG #Germany Jews of Eindhoven, Netherlands 1940 - 1945 - CITE SITE #germany

Barbara Algaze
 

There is a 78 page book about the Jews in Eindhoven, Netherlands >from 1940 -
1945.

It is written in Dutch

and is located on the web at: http://tinyurl.com/ycjmol3q
https://stichting18september.nl/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/Boek-Joodse-gemeenschap-06-2010.pdf

Starting at page 54, it has a 20 page list of all the Jews who were living
there at that time, with names, dates and places of birth, address, and when
and where they ended up (i.e. names of Concentration Camps.)

This is followed by two pages listing the names of all the Jews who were
born in Eindhoven >from 1940 - 1945.
I hope you will find this interesting in your research going forward.

Barbara Algaze, Los Angeles, California Algaze3@gmail.com


early birth records for Noerdlingen #germany

lin2@...
 

Hi GerSIGers,
It was great meeting many of you at IAJGS 2017.

I need help finding birth documents for my great-great grandfather Jakob
BUEHLER (1824-1865) (umlaut over the /u/ instead of an e), or even any
of his siblings. Jakob BUEHLER was born in Kleinerdlingen in 1824.

We are trying to determine several things, including whether his
father's name was Joseph Abraham BUEHLER or Joseph Abraham
SCHWEIZER or maybe was just Joseph Abraham (Joseph ben Abraham) as well
as who his mother was and if his mother was Gela SANDEL LAUCHHEIMER.

Kleinerdlingen is in Schwabia, Donau-Kies, Bavaria.

Would these documents still exist and where would I get them? Just in
case anyone out there might be related, his siblings were Fanny BUEHLER
GUTMANN (1807-1882), Schimon Wolf BUEHLER (1810-1845), Elias BUEHLER
(1812-1868), Bebi (1816- ?)BUEHLER, Babeth

Thank you for your time and consideration. Sincerely,

Lin Herz Palm Bay, Florida lin2@cfl.rr.com


German SIG #Germany early birth records for Noerdlingen #germany

lin2@...
 

Hi GerSIGers,
It was great meeting many of you at IAJGS 2017.

I need help finding birth documents for my great-great grandfather Jakob
BUEHLER (1824-1865) (umlaut over the /u/ instead of an e), or even any
of his siblings. Jakob BUEHLER was born in Kleinerdlingen in 1824.

We are trying to determine several things, including whether his
father's name was Joseph Abraham BUEHLER or Joseph Abraham
SCHWEIZER or maybe was just Joseph Abraham (Joseph ben Abraham) as well
as who his mother was and if his mother was Gela SANDEL LAUCHHEIMER.

Kleinerdlingen is in Schwabia, Donau-Kies, Bavaria.

Would these documents still exist and where would I get them? Just in
case anyone out there might be related, his siblings were Fanny BUEHLER
GUTMANN (1807-1882), Schimon Wolf BUEHLER (1810-1845), Elias BUEHLER
(1812-1868), Bebi (1816- ?)BUEHLER, Babeth

Thank you for your time and consideration. Sincerely,

Lin Herz Palm Bay, Florida lin2@cfl.rr.com


Reminder: Obermayer German Jewish History Award submission deadline #germany

Arthur Obermayer <obermayer@...>
 

Reminder: The deadline for Obermayer German Jewish History Award
nominations this year is September 12th, and supplementary materials are
due by September 6. The awards honor individuals and organizations in
Germany who have preserved, raised awareness of, or breathed new life
into a once-vibrant Jewish history and culture in their communities (see
web site for details).

Nominees who were not successful in previous years may be eligible for
this year’s awards. Nominators need only to submit an updated
application. Instructions may be found on the Obermayer web site.

http://www.obermayer.us/award/nominate.htm.

The awards are sponsored by the Obermayer Foundation in cooperation with
the President of the Berlin House of Representatives, the Leo Baeck
Institute, and GerSIG.

Additional information about the award may be found on the Obermayer
Foundation may be found at:

http://obermayer.us/award

The call for nominations can be obtained at

http://www.obermayer.us/award/nominate.htm

Betty Solbjor, Dedham, Mass. (on behalf of the Obermayer Foundation)


German SIG #Germany Reminder: Obermayer German Jewish History Award submission deadline #germany

Arthur Obermayer <obermayer@...>
 

Reminder: The deadline for Obermayer German Jewish History Award
nominations this year is September 12th, and supplementary materials are
due by September 6. The awards honor individuals and organizations in
Germany who have preserved, raised awareness of, or breathed new life
into a once-vibrant Jewish history and culture in their communities (see
web site for details).

Nominees who were not successful in previous years may be eligible for
this year’s awards. Nominators need only to submit an updated
application. Instructions may be found on the Obermayer web site.

http://www.obermayer.us/award/nominate.htm.

The awards are sponsored by the Obermayer Foundation in cooperation with
the President of the Berlin House of Representatives, the Leo Baeck
Institute, and GerSIG.

Additional information about the award may be found on the Obermayer
Foundation may be found at:

http://obermayer.us/award

The call for nominations can be obtained at

http://www.obermayer.us/award/nominate.htm

Betty Solbjor, Dedham, Mass. (on behalf of the Obermayer Foundation)


Jewish history resources for Augsburg #germany

JewishGen German Research Division Coordinator
 

A GerSIG director received an inquiry >from someone with roots in Augsburg
who's planning a research trip for September, 2017. We were asked if GerSIG
could suggest an authority on repositories, Jewish historical sites
and Augsburg Jewish history who could be hired as "a tour guide of sorts"
in Augsburg.

This was the reply. I think it's worth adding to the GerSIG archives.
The SIG archives can always be searched (in this case it would be for
"Augsburg") at:
http://data.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.dll?jg~jgsys~sigspop
after logging in to JewishGen with your user name and password.

" Probably the best person we can recommend to you in Augsburg is Yehuda
Schenef who runs the Jewish Historical Society of Augsburg. He speaks
English, Hebrew and German. Please tell him that a GerSIG director in Europe
suggested that you should contact him.

Juedisch Historischer Verein Augsburg (JHVA)
PO Box 11 10 21
86035 Augsburg

https://jhva.wordpress.com/tag/yehuda-schenef/

http://www.avotaynuonline.com/2015/04/tracing-german-jewish-ancestry-17th-century-much-earlier/

See also http://www.alemannia-judaica.de

Hope this helps. Have a great visit. "

Posted on behalf of the GerSIG administration by GerSIGmod@gmail.com


German SIG #Germany Jewish history resources for Augsburg #germany

JewishGen German Research Division Coordinator
 

A GerSIG director received an inquiry >from someone with roots in Augsburg
who's planning a research trip for September, 2017. We were asked if GerSIG
could suggest an authority on repositories, Jewish historical sites
and Augsburg Jewish history who could be hired as "a tour guide of sorts"
in Augsburg.

This was the reply. I think it's worth adding to the GerSIG archives.
The SIG archives can always be searched (in this case it would be for
"Augsburg") at:
http://data.jewishgen.org/wconnect/wc.dll?jg~jgsys~sigspop
after logging in to JewishGen with your user name and password.

" Probably the best person we can recommend to you in Augsburg is Yehuda
Schenef who runs the Jewish Historical Society of Augsburg. He speaks
English, Hebrew and German. Please tell him that a GerSIG director in Europe
suggested that you should contact him.

Juedisch Historischer Verein Augsburg (JHVA)
PO Box 11 10 21
86035 Augsburg

https://jhva.wordpress.com/tag/yehuda-schenef/

http://www.avotaynuonline.com/2015/04/tracing-german-jewish-ancestry-17th-century-much-earlier/

See also http://www.alemannia-judaica.de

Hope this helps. Have a great visit. "

Posted on behalf of the GerSIG administration by GerSIGmod@gmail.com


Looking for contributions to the SA-SIG Newsletter! #southafrica

Roy Ogus
 

Just a reminder that the Southern African Special Interest Group (SA-SIG)
Newsletter is a high-quality journal which contains articles of interest to
researchers whose families have connections to the Southern African area.
Articles cover a wide variety of topics such as:

- Jewish communities in SA
- Jewish personalities and families in SA
- Rabbis and congregations in SA
- South Africa-Israel connections
- Stories of SA expatriates in other parts of the world
- Detailed research topics
- Book and periodical reviews of interest

and many other topics.

Previous issues of the Newsletter, as well as information about the SA-SIG
Newsletter in general, can be found at the the following link:

http://www.jewishgen.org/safrica/newsletter/

I'm always on the lookout for original article contributions for the Newsletter,
as well as for references to previously-published articles that may be of
interest to the SA-SIG Newsletter readers. Please feel free to contact me
directly if you have any articles that you wish to contribute to a future issue
of the Newsletter.

Many thanks!

Roy Ogus

Editor, SA-SIG Newsletter, and Vice President, SA-SIG
Palo Alto, California
r_ogus at hotmail.com


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica Looking for contributions to the SA-SIG Newsletter! #southafrica

Roy Ogus
 

Just a reminder that the Southern African Special Interest Group (SA-SIG)
Newsletter is a high-quality journal which contains articles of interest to
researchers whose families have connections to the Southern African area.
Articles cover a wide variety of topics such as:

- Jewish communities in SA
- Jewish personalities and families in SA
- Rabbis and congregations in SA
- South Africa-Israel connections
- Stories of SA expatriates in other parts of the world
- Detailed research topics
- Book and periodical reviews of interest

and many other topics.

Previous issues of the Newsletter, as well as information about the SA-SIG
Newsletter in general, can be found at the the following link:

http://www.jewishgen.org/safrica/newsletter/

I'm always on the lookout for original article contributions for the Newsletter,
as well as for references to previously-published articles that may be of
interest to the SA-SIG Newsletter readers. Please feel free to contact me
directly if you have any articles that you wish to contribute to a future issue
of the Newsletter.

Many thanks!

Roy Ogus

Editor, SA-SIG Newsletter, and Vice President, SA-SIG
Palo Alto, California
r_ogus at hotmail.com


Response to Susan Zweighaft's Post #dna

Jeffrey Mark Paull
 

Dear Susan,

I very much enjoyed meeting you at my talk at the IAJGS Conference in
Orlando. In regard to your statement: "I have so many questions - for
instance, my brother closely matches 2 of the testers used in Dr.
Paull's 2016 study, but they are identified as haplogroup J-L823 and
my brother as J-M267," your brother does, in fact, belong to the same
main J-M267 haplogroup as our three pedigreed Katzenellenbogen
descendants. We did additional SNP testing to further define their
subclade, which is J-L823. Undoubtedly, if you were to test your
brother for the J-L823 SNP, he would test positive for it as well. If
you would like to confirm this by ordering this single SNP, I would be
happy to assist you with that.

Other than this SNP test, there is no other Y-DNA test that I would
recommend that your brother take at the present time. His Y-DNA
results have already provided you with the essential information that
he shares a common ancestor with the Katzenellenbogen rabbinical
lineage. Exactly when that ancestor lived, however, cannot be
pinpointed with accuracy. Perhaps someday, next generation sequencing
(NGS) tests like the Big Y test will enable us to further narrow down
the time during which the most recent common Katzenellenbogen ancestor
lived, but, unfortunately, that is still a ways down the road.

If he hasn't already done so, you might have your brother take a Family
Finder test, and see if he has any genetic matches with Zweighaft among
their ancestral surnames. If so, correspond with them, and find out what
they know about their Zweighaft ancestry.

At this point, with the knowledge that your brother shares a common
ancestor with the Katzenellenbogen rabbinical lineage, I would recommend
putting your time and energy into traditional genealogical research. Try
to find out more about the Zweighaft surname. Where and when did it
originate? Try and find out where your ancestors lived. Did any of them
live in Mannheim, Germany, or in Landau, Germany, or in Lublin, Poland?
If so, those are some of same towns in which the pedigreed
Katzenellenbogen descendants' ancestors also lived. Perhaps there was a
connection between your family and the Katzenellenbogen ancestors there.
Do you have any oral tradition or written evidence of Sephardic ethnic
ancestry? This is yet another clue provided by the Katzellenbogen Y-DNA
study to follow up on.

You won't find all of the answers to these questions overnight, but
step-by-step, you may be able to narrow down where and when your
ancestors connected to the Katzenellenbogen rabbinical lineage. At least
you have some very important clues regarding where to look!

If I can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to call or
write.

All the Best,

Jeff

Dr. Jeffrey Mark Paull


Re: Y-DNA Big Y test #dna

R Jaffer
 

Unfortunately, in my response to the question regarding further
testing for someone who has no Y results, I misspoke when I suggested
uploading results to gedmatch. I should have suggested uploading to
YSearch.org.

Roberta Jaffer
Massachusetts


DNA Research #DNA Response to Susan Zweighaft's Post #dna

Jeffrey Mark Paull
 

Dear Susan,

I very much enjoyed meeting you at my talk at the IAJGS Conference in
Orlando. In regard to your statement: "I have so many questions - for
instance, my brother closely matches 2 of the testers used in Dr.
Paull's 2016 study, but they are identified as haplogroup J-L823 and
my brother as J-M267," your brother does, in fact, belong to the same
main J-M267 haplogroup as our three pedigreed Katzenellenbogen
descendants. We did additional SNP testing to further define their
subclade, which is J-L823. Undoubtedly, if you were to test your
brother for the J-L823 SNP, he would test positive for it as well. If
you would like to confirm this by ordering this single SNP, I would be
happy to assist you with that.

Other than this SNP test, there is no other Y-DNA test that I would
recommend that your brother take at the present time. His Y-DNA
results have already provided you with the essential information that
he shares a common ancestor with the Katzenellenbogen rabbinical
lineage. Exactly when that ancestor lived, however, cannot be
pinpointed with accuracy. Perhaps someday, next generation sequencing
(NGS) tests like the Big Y test will enable us to further narrow down
the time during which the most recent common Katzenellenbogen ancestor
lived, but, unfortunately, that is still a ways down the road.

If he hasn't already done so, you might have your brother take a Family
Finder test, and see if he has any genetic matches with Zweighaft among
their ancestral surnames. If so, correspond with them, and find out what
they know about their Zweighaft ancestry.

At this point, with the knowledge that your brother shares a common
ancestor with the Katzenellenbogen rabbinical lineage, I would recommend
putting your time and energy into traditional genealogical research. Try
to find out more about the Zweighaft surname. Where and when did it
originate? Try and find out where your ancestors lived. Did any of them
live in Mannheim, Germany, or in Landau, Germany, or in Lublin, Poland?
If so, those are some of same towns in which the pedigreed
Katzenellenbogen descendants' ancestors also lived. Perhaps there was a
connection between your family and the Katzenellenbogen ancestors there.
Do you have any oral tradition or written evidence of Sephardic ethnic
ancestry? This is yet another clue provided by the Katzellenbogen Y-DNA
study to follow up on.

You won't find all of the answers to these questions overnight, but
step-by-step, you may be able to narrow down where and when your
ancestors connected to the Katzenellenbogen rabbinical lineage. At least
you have some very important clues regarding where to look!

If I can be of any further assistance, please do not hesitate to call or
write.

All the Best,

Jeff

Dr. Jeffrey Mark Paull


DNA Research #DNA Re: Y-DNA Big Y test #dna

R Jaffer
 

Unfortunately, in my response to the question regarding further
testing for someone who has no Y results, I misspoke when I suggested
uploading results to gedmatch. I should have suggested uploading to
YSearch.org.

Roberta Jaffer
Massachusetts

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