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Opening a group page on Facebook #general

sotet@...
 

Dear Group.
I have recently posted a message on how a cousin had found me on a Group page on
Facebook, called: "My Last Name is Sonnenfeld"

Some of you have asked how can one open such account. I replied each query but
some of the e-mails came back, probably due to a fault of my Email program, so
some of you never received my reply.

In case you want to open a "Group Account" on Facebook with the family name you
are searching for in it the way of doing this is as follows:
1, Go to "Open an Account"
2, Go to "Groups"
3. Click on "Create a Group"
4, Fill in all the boxes. Make sure you make the page "public" so anybody can
access it.
5, Write on the "wall" some details that you don't mind strangers seeing but
still enough info for a cousin to recognize you as a family member.

To look for a Group already existing is more simple:
1,Write the name you are researching into the "Search" box.
2,Look at all the "Groups". There are quite a number of groups with the aim of
finding people with the same family name.

I think group pages work very will in case of searching for extremely common
names. Though finding a person through this requires a good deal of luck.
I wish you lots of "luck"
Agnes SOTET-SONNENFELD
New Zealand
Hungarian translation help #general

Cory Streisinger <corys@...>
 

I found my great-uncle Karoly Streisinger listed in a Hungarian business
directory under the heading "Iparosok" and the sub-heading "Berautos"
(accents over the "e" and "o"). Can anyone translate this for me? Also,
following his name is the designation "T 290." Any ideas what this could r
epresent? The listing is in the town of Losonc (Lucenec).

Thanks very much -

Cory Streisinger
Portland, Oregon
Being identified as a Jew on a German passport #general

Naidia Woolf <rnwoolf@...>
 

This is In response to the posting in yesterdays' digest regarding the *J*
(for Jewish) being affixed to German Jewish passports (during the Third
Reich).

Some time ago I read (I don't recall where) that the Nazi authorities
*amended* German Jews' vital records (birth and marriage records) by
inserting an additional, obviously *Jewish* given name: for Jewish men the
name was *Israel*; for Jewish women, Sarah. The underlying reason must be
immediately apparent.

After the war (according to the same source), the German authorities began
the painstaking task of redacting those names >from those same (presumably
millions of) official records. I would be interested to know whether this
monumental task was or has already been accomplished.

Naidia Woolf
San Francisco, CA USA
rnwoolf@earthlink.net
Formerly of Birmingham, England
Now living in San Francisco, CA

RESEARCHING:
DROZDIASZ/RAUS: Karczew, Poland
ISAACS: Poland (near Warsaw), Birmingham, England
SAFIRSTEIN/SZAFIRSTEJN (and variants): Karczew, Poland
SUMMERS and WINTER: Poland, Birmingham, New Jersey, USA
KUJAWSKI: Lodz, Poland
SZON/SHORN: Warsaw, Poland, London, England
Announcing Yurovshchina (Labun/Lubin/Novolabun) Shtetlinks page #ukraine

gilah@...
 

Thanks to Mark Heckman's (great!) Shtetlinks Course sponsored by Jewishgen, I have completed a new shtetlinks page: http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/yurovshchina/

Yurovshchina, Ukraine was once called Lubin or Labun in Zaslav District, Volhynia Gubernia. It's about 10 miles west of Polonnoye.

Emily Garber
Phoenix, AZ
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Opening a group page on Facebook #general

sotet@...
 

Dear Group.
I have recently posted a message on how a cousin had found me on a Group page on
Facebook, called: "My Last Name is Sonnenfeld"

Some of you have asked how can one open such account. I replied each query but
some of the e-mails came back, probably due to a fault of my Email program, so
some of you never received my reply.

In case you want to open a "Group Account" on Facebook with the family name you
are searching for in it the way of doing this is as follows:
1, Go to "Open an Account"
2, Go to "Groups"
3. Click on "Create a Group"
4, Fill in all the boxes. Make sure you make the page "public" so anybody can
access it.
5, Write on the "wall" some details that you don't mind strangers seeing but
still enough info for a cousin to recognize you as a family member.

To look for a Group already existing is more simple:
1,Write the name you are researching into the "Search" box.
2,Look at all the "Groups". There are quite a number of groups with the aim of
finding people with the same family name.

I think group pages work very will in case of searching for extremely common
names. Though finding a person through this requires a good deal of luck.
I wish you lots of "luck"
Agnes SOTET-SONNENFELD
New Zealand
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Hungarian translation help #general

Cory Streisinger <corys@...>
 

I found my great-uncle Karoly Streisinger listed in a Hungarian business
directory under the heading "Iparosok" and the sub-heading "Berautos"
(accents over the "e" and "o"). Can anyone translate this for me? Also,
following his name is the designation "T 290." Any ideas what this could r
epresent? The listing is in the town of Losonc (Lucenec).

Thanks very much -

Cory Streisinger
Portland, Oregon
JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Being identified as a Jew on a German passport #general

Naidia Woolf <rnwoolf@...>
 

This is In response to the posting in yesterdays' digest regarding the *J*
(for Jewish) being affixed to German Jewish passports (during the Third
Reich).

Some time ago I read (I don't recall where) that the Nazi authorities
*amended* German Jews' vital records (birth and marriage records) by
inserting an additional, obviously *Jewish* given name: for Jewish men the
name was *Israel*; for Jewish women, Sarah. The underlying reason must be
immediately apparent.

After the war (according to the same source), the German authorities began
the painstaking task of redacting those names >from those same (presumably
millions of) official records. I would be interested to know whether this
monumental task was or has already been accomplished.

Naidia Woolf
San Francisco, CA USA
rnwoolf@earthlink.net
Formerly of Birmingham, England
Now living in San Francisco, CA

RESEARCHING:
DROZDIASZ/RAUS: Karczew, Poland
ISAACS: Poland (near Warsaw), Birmingham, England
SAFIRSTEIN/SZAFIRSTEJN (and variants): Karczew, Poland
SUMMERS and WINTER: Poland, Birmingham, New Jersey, USA
KUJAWSKI: Lodz, Poland
SZON/SHORN: Warsaw, Poland, London, England
Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Announcing Yurovshchina (Labun/Lubin/Novolabun) Shtetlinks page #ukraine

gilah@...
 

Thanks to Mark Heckman's (great!) Shtetlinks Course sponsored by Jewishgen, I have completed a new shtetlinks page: http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/yurovshchina/

Yurovshchina, Ukraine was once called Lubin or Labun in Zaslav District, Volhynia Gubernia. It's about 10 miles west of Polonnoye.

Emily Garber
Phoenix, AZ
JGSGB Manchester Event - 7th February (Reminder) #unitedkingdom

lorna.kay@...
 

JEWISH GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY OF GREAT BRITAIN
Manchester Regional Group

Special event - Professional Workshop 11.00am to 4.30pm
Sunday, 7th February 2010 at the GMP Training College, Prestwich, North
Manchester.

Tickets are selling well and the charge is very modest for such a super day
(including refreshments) packed with help and one-to-one opportunities for
family historians at all levels - complete beginners, people with some
research experience and long-term researchers. Alien Registration Books
will be on show with an adviser >from the GMP Police Museum. All the
information is in the Workshop Newsletter together with the registration
form and directions to the venue. E-mail lorna.kay@talktalk.net for full
details of programme, venue etc.

Lorna Kay
Chairman - Manchester Regional Group
Jewish Genealogical Society of Great Britain

Researching
WEISBERG (Kamenets Podolsk, Ukraine)
SEEBERG/SEABERG (Tukums, Latvia)
KUTCHINSKY (Piotrkow/Warsaw, Poland)
BLUESTONE (Roumania)
FROMBERG (Russia)
BRATSPIES/BRADPIECE (Austria/Poland)
KAHN (Mitau, Latvia)
JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom JGSGB Manchester Event - 7th February (Reminder) #unitedkingdom

lorna.kay@...
 

JEWISH GENEALOGICAL SOCIETY OF GREAT BRITAIN
Manchester Regional Group

Special event - Professional Workshop 11.00am to 4.30pm
Sunday, 7th February 2010 at the GMP Training College, Prestwich, North
Manchester.

Tickets are selling well and the charge is very modest for such a super day
(including refreshments) packed with help and one-to-one opportunities for
family historians at all levels - complete beginners, people with some
research experience and long-term researchers. Alien Registration Books
will be on show with an adviser >from the GMP Police Museum. All the
information is in the Workshop Newsletter together with the registration
form and directions to the venue. E-mail lorna.kay@talktalk.net for full
details of programme, venue etc.

Lorna Kay
Chairman - Manchester Regional Group
Jewish Genealogical Society of Great Britain

Researching
WEISBERG (Kamenets Podolsk, Ukraine)
SEEBERG/SEABERG (Tukums, Latvia)
KUTCHINSKY (Piotrkow/Warsaw, Poland)
BLUESTONE (Roumania)
FROMBERG (Russia)
BRATSPIES/BRADPIECE (Austria/Poland)
KAHN (Mitau, Latvia)
FW: HIATT Researchers #unitedkingdom

a1steve@...
 

Dear All

Is anyone researching a HIATT (sp) family?
I have Esther a.k.a Sarah nee HIATT born around 1873
in 'Russia' and passed away in London, 1932.
Her Hebrew name is Esther daughter of Zanvel.

Please contact me on a1steve@bigpond.com

Many thanks

Naomi Ogin
Brisbane
Searching;BRESNARK,CHERNOSKY,CHORGAN,
DAVIDOVITCH,DOMANIS,GOLDWITZ,GREENBERG,
HARYUDAH,HIATT,HUNT,LEBIS,OGIN,ORGIN,
POLIAKOFF,RABIN,RABINOVITCH,RANDALL,
RESNICK,RUBINSTEIN,TISMAN,TISHMAN,WILSON,WOLFSON
JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom FW: HIATT Researchers #unitedkingdom

a1steve@...
 

Dear All

Is anyone researching a HIATT (sp) family?
I have Esther a.k.a Sarah nee HIATT born around 1873
in 'Russia' and passed away in London, 1932.
Her Hebrew name is Esther daughter of Zanvel.

Please contact me on a1steve@bigpond.com

Many thanks

Naomi Ogin
Brisbane
Searching;BRESNARK,CHERNOSKY,CHORGAN,
DAVIDOVITCH,DOMANIS,GOLDWITZ,GREENBERG,
HARYUDAH,HIATT,HUNT,LEBIS,OGIN,ORGIN,
POLIAKOFF,RABIN,RABINOVITCH,RANDALL,
RESNICK,RUBINSTEIN,TISMAN,TISHMAN,WILSON,WOLFSON
Rzeszow Research Group--meet at L.A. Conference? #galicia

Marian Rubin
 

If you are researching families >from Rzeszow, Galicia (pronounced
zhe-shof), please let me know by January 22 if you plan to attend
the July Los Angeles conference and if you would like to attend a
meeting of the Rzeszow Research Group during the conference.

I'm asking for this information so early in order to decide
whether or not to schedule a meeting. The conference team has set
an early deadline for submitting an application to schedule a
meeting.

Please let me know by January 22 if you think you want to attend
a meeting of the Rzeszow Research Group at the conference.

Thank you.

If you are new to Rzeszow research, our ShtetLinks website on
JewishGen should be helpful:

http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Rzeszow

Marian Rubin
Coordinator, the Rzeszow Research Group
San Francisco
merubin@aol.com
HANDWERKER, WASSERMAN from Lwow #galicia

Henryk Gruder <henrygruder@...>
 

Hi,

I am looking for descendants of Dr Handwerker >from Lwow or his
daughter Teofila, as well as a lawyer Wasserman >from Lwow, then
Lublin or his daughter Czeslawa.

Henryk Gruder,
Ottawa, Canada
Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Rzeszow Research Group--meet at L.A. Conference? #galicia

Marian Rubin
 

If you are researching families >from Rzeszow, Galicia (pronounced
zhe-shof), please let me know by January 22 if you plan to attend
the July Los Angeles conference and if you would like to attend a
meeting of the Rzeszow Research Group during the conference.

I'm asking for this information so early in order to decide
whether or not to schedule a meeting. The conference team has set
an early deadline for submitting an application to schedule a
meeting.

Please let me know by January 22 if you think you want to attend
a meeting of the Rzeszow Research Group at the conference.

Thank you.

If you are new to Rzeszow research, our ShtetLinks website on
JewishGen should be helpful:

http://www.shtetlinks.jewishgen.org/Rzeszow

Marian Rubin
Coordinator, the Rzeszow Research Group
San Francisco
merubin@aol.com
Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia HANDWERKER, WASSERMAN from Lwow #galicia

Henryk Gruder <henrygruder@...>
 

Hi,

I am looking for descendants of Dr Handwerker >from Lwow or his
daughter Teofila, as well as a lawyer Wasserman >from Lwow, then
Lublin or his daughter Czeslawa.

Henryk Gruder,
Ottawa, Canada
More on surname adoption #galicia

Suzan Wynne <srwynne@...>
 

I believe that it is important to distinguish between legislation
and regulations in regard to surname adoption. Legislation
mandated and authorized surname adoption but, as in all
legislation emanating >from the Austrian Parliament, there were
regulations setting out how the legislation would be implemented
.... we have a similar process in the US. It is in the
regulations that the government spelled out precisely how the
process of surname adoption was to be carried out by Austrian
officials or agents in the various parts of the Empire.

I have a copy of the 1877 regulations governing how Jewish vital
records were to be collected and maintained and how the
registrars in each Gemeinde (the official body of Jews elected
to govern Jewish affairs in each Jewish district) to be
nominated by the Gemeinde. It took two years for these
regulations to be finalized. The Gemeinde, itself, was
authorized to develop regulations for how all of their duties
were to be fulfilled, but the pieces of legislation authorizing
the formation and then continuation of the Judische Kultus
Gemeinde, were created by the Parliament and signed by each
of the Emperors in power at the time.

To my knowledge, overseeing surname adoption was not part of
the duty of the Gemeinde....Joseph II, the Emperor who mandated
Jewish surname adoption, had not yet created and signed the
7 May 1789 Judenpatent (Patent of Toleration) that regionalized
the Gemeinde structure in Austrian territories. Prior to its
being regionalized, the Galician Gemeinde was centralized in
Lemberg.

The story that Jews were lined up and given simple names like
Weiss, Schwartz, etc. is simply a myth, perhaps originally a
tongue in cheek account that somehow has made its way into the
realm of reality, kind of like the myth that names were changed
at Ellis Island (wish I had a dollar for everytime I've heard
that one!). You only have to look at the vital records >from a
few Gemeinde districts to see the wide range of surnames. Yes,
there were clusters of some names appearing in certain towns
districts but consider the likelihood of families living in
those areas deciding to register together or to select the same
surname as a family. Much more logical.

I doubt very much that rabbis were involved at all in surname
adoption because it is hard to imagine that Gemeinde rabbis
would have approved such unpleasant names for some of their
congregants. More believable is that Austrian officials or
their Polish and Ukrainian agents were in charge of
registration and collection of the fees. Benzion Kaganoff,
author of the classic, A Dictionary of Jewish Names and Their
History, published by Schocken Books in 1977, speculated that
the registration of fancy and pleasant names like Goldstein or
Rosenfeld, might have been the result of some "extra" in the
fee structure.

Suzan Wynne
Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia More on surname adoption #galicia

Suzan Wynne <srwynne@...>
 

I believe that it is important to distinguish between legislation
and regulations in regard to surname adoption. Legislation
mandated and authorized surname adoption but, as in all
legislation emanating >from the Austrian Parliament, there were
regulations setting out how the legislation would be implemented
.... we have a similar process in the US. It is in the
regulations that the government spelled out precisely how the
process of surname adoption was to be carried out by Austrian
officials or agents in the various parts of the Empire.

I have a copy of the 1877 regulations governing how Jewish vital
records were to be collected and maintained and how the
registrars in each Gemeinde (the official body of Jews elected
to govern Jewish affairs in each Jewish district) to be
nominated by the Gemeinde. It took two years for these
regulations to be finalized. The Gemeinde, itself, was
authorized to develop regulations for how all of their duties
were to be fulfilled, but the pieces of legislation authorizing
the formation and then continuation of the Judische Kultus
Gemeinde, were created by the Parliament and signed by each
of the Emperors in power at the time.

To my knowledge, overseeing surname adoption was not part of
the duty of the Gemeinde....Joseph II, the Emperor who mandated
Jewish surname adoption, had not yet created and signed the
7 May 1789 Judenpatent (Patent of Toleration) that regionalized
the Gemeinde structure in Austrian territories. Prior to its
being regionalized, the Galician Gemeinde was centralized in
Lemberg.

The story that Jews were lined up and given simple names like
Weiss, Schwartz, etc. is simply a myth, perhaps originally a
tongue in cheek account that somehow has made its way into the
realm of reality, kind of like the myth that names were changed
at Ellis Island (wish I had a dollar for everytime I've heard
that one!). You only have to look at the vital records >from a
few Gemeinde districts to see the wide range of surnames. Yes,
there were clusters of some names appearing in certain towns
districts but consider the likelihood of families living in
those areas deciding to register together or to select the same
surname as a family. Much more logical.

I doubt very much that rabbis were involved at all in surname
adoption because it is hard to imagine that Gemeinde rabbis
would have approved such unpleasant names for some of their
congregants. More believable is that Austrian officials or
their Polish and Ukrainian agents were in charge of
registration and collection of the fees. Benzion Kaganoff,
author of the classic, A Dictionary of Jewish Names and Their
History, published by Schocken Books in 1977, speculated that
the registration of fancy and pleasant names like Goldstein or
Rosenfeld, might have been the result of some "extra" in the
fee structure.

Suzan Wynne
LCVA Success Story #lithuania

ronen kusne <ronenk4@...>
 

Dear All,

For a while now I have been looking for accurate names and date of births of
family members (1880's-1890's) that perished in the Shoah. The best I had
were several addresses left by a Shoah Survivor of where the different
families lived.

After inquiring what I could possibly do with this information, I was given
as a resource the Lithuanian Central State Archives. I filled out several
inquiry forms and sent them in with payment. Within 5 weeks I received a
packet of information.Enclosed were records that gave names and birth dates
of the owners/renters of these various residences along with mother's maiden
names.Another "wow" was a listing of members of the household and their
birth dates and places of birth. There was even a child listed of which we
were unaware.

Thank You LitvakSig for your continued support!

Ronen Kusne
Lithuania SIG #Lithuania LCVA Success Story #lithuania

ronen kusne <ronenk4@...>
 

Dear All,

For a while now I have been looking for accurate names and date of births of
family members (1880's-1890's) that perished in the Shoah. The best I had
were several addresses left by a Shoah Survivor of where the different
families lived.

After inquiring what I could possibly do with this information, I was given
as a resource the Lithuanian Central State Archives. I filled out several
inquiry forms and sent them in with payment. Within 5 weeks I received a
packet of information.Enclosed were records that gave names and birth dates
of the owners/renters of these various residences along with mother's maiden
names.Another "wow" was a listing of members of the household and their
birth dates and places of birth. There was even a child listed of which we
were unaware.

Thank You LitvakSig for your continued support!

Ronen Kusne
226501 - 226520 of 668783