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Sanatorium Furth, Vienna - Birth and Death Links #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Today was a very special day for me. I met for the first time, an early
member of our SIG - Frank Eisinger, in NY - we have not yet established a
genealogical link , but we have a very strong link as we were both born at
Sanatorium Furth, Schmidgasse, Vienna 8 - albeit nine years apart.

It is now the heavily-guarded US Reference Center see:
http://www.usembassy.at/en/embassy/arc.htm

As soon as the Nazis aryanized this beautiful state-of-the-art hospital
it was commandeered by them for their officers and top officials as a
centre of excellence - after the war it finally reverted to the Americans.

I recently read that the Habsburg family is claiming restitution of the
building. The hospital was run by Dr Lothar FURTH. I know nothing about
this Jewish family and its fate. Lothar apears on the Living Heirs
Holocaust asset database list without a birth date - which is unusual.
Does anyone have a link?

All I do know is that the birth links Frank Eisinger and I have are
apparently so strong that they kept us going for four hours and we
could have talked for another four days. Our Viennese families were both
from the 8th district, but I doubt they knew each other.
I have only ever met one other baby born at Sanatorium Furth - he lives
in Sydney, Australia. I presume there must be a few others alive, but
I wonder who they are and where they live. The clientele was probably
mainly Jewish.

It was only when I retrieved the will of my great grandmother, Emma
{nee BIACH} KOHN/KERNER in Vienna last year, that I discovered it was
executed by her nephew, the lawyer Emil DUSCHNITZ [related to SIGGER
Harold Chipman], and that she had died in the Sanatorium Furth some 20
years before I was born! She was born in Pressburg as one of 11 children
of Emanuel BIACH and Fanny LEIDESDORF. It was mainly these children
that have given me so many links on my tree.

Sanatorium Furth was obviously our family hospital for generations.
These links are fascinating too and should be registered on a family tree.

Celia Male {U.K.} but currently in NY


Re: Publishing Genealogies - What's the point? #general

Evelyne Haendel <haendelevelyne@...>
 

Subject: Re: Publishing Genealogies - What's the point?
From: Evelyne Haendel haendelevelyne@...

I was struck by the pertinence of Yehuda Ben Schlomo first posting and
fully agree to it. Reading this second posting obviously rings a bell for
me. If anything I would have been the most happier woman to locate somewhere
a name on a family tree with whom I could have found a connection. Besides
destroyed records there also are destroyed families, as we all know and one
connection can mean so much!

Evelyne Haendel
Liege, Belgium
haendelevelyne@...

Searching: HANDEL/HENDEL, HECHT, KARPEL >from Sniatyn (now Ukraine) Mihaileni
(Rumania)
WOLFOWICZ/ WOLFOWITZ , >from Kutno, Ozorkow, Lodz, Dortmund, New York
ERHLICH, FROMER/FROMMER >from Ozorkow, Lodz, Dortmund


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Sanatorium Furth, Vienna - Birth and Death Links #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Today was a very special day for me. I met for the first time, an early
member of our SIG - Frank Eisinger, in NY - we have not yet established a
genealogical link , but we have a very strong link as we were both born at
Sanatorium Furth, Schmidgasse, Vienna 8 - albeit nine years apart.

It is now the heavily-guarded US Reference Center see:
http://www.usembassy.at/en/embassy/arc.htm

As soon as the Nazis aryanized this beautiful state-of-the-art hospital
it was commandeered by them for their officers and top officials as a
centre of excellence - after the war it finally reverted to the Americans.

I recently read that the Habsburg family is claiming restitution of the
building. The hospital was run by Dr Lothar FURTH. I know nothing about
this Jewish family and its fate. Lothar apears on the Living Heirs
Holocaust asset database list without a birth date - which is unusual.
Does anyone have a link?

All I do know is that the birth links Frank Eisinger and I have are
apparently so strong that they kept us going for four hours and we
could have talked for another four days. Our Viennese families were both
from the 8th district, but I doubt they knew each other.
I have only ever met one other baby born at Sanatorium Furth - he lives
in Sydney, Australia. I presume there must be a few others alive, but
I wonder who they are and where they live. The clientele was probably
mainly Jewish.

It was only when I retrieved the will of my great grandmother, Emma
{nee BIACH} KOHN/KERNER in Vienna last year, that I discovered it was
executed by her nephew, the lawyer Emil DUSCHNITZ [related to SIGGER
Harold Chipman], and that she had died in the Sanatorium Furth some 20
years before I was born! She was born in Pressburg as one of 11 children
of Emanuel BIACH and Fanny LEIDESDORF. It was mainly these children
that have given me so many links on my tree.

Sanatorium Furth was obviously our family hospital for generations.
These links are fascinating too and should be registered on a family tree.

Celia Male {U.K.} but currently in NY


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Publishing Genealogies - What's the point? #general

Evelyne Haendel <haendelevelyne@...>
 

Subject: Re: Publishing Genealogies - What's the point?
From: Evelyne Haendel haendelevelyne@...

I was struck by the pertinence of Yehuda Ben Schlomo first posting and
fully agree to it. Reading this second posting obviously rings a bell for
me. If anything I would have been the most happier woman to locate somewhere
a name on a family tree with whom I could have found a connection. Besides
destroyed records there also are destroyed families, as we all know and one
connection can mean so much!

Evelyne Haendel
Liege, Belgium
haendelevelyne@...

Searching: HANDEL/HENDEL, HECHT, KARPEL >from Sniatyn (now Ukraine) Mihaileni
(Rumania)
WOLFOWICZ/ WOLFOWITZ , >from Kutno, Ozorkow, Lodz, Dortmund, New York
ERHLICH, FROMER/FROMMER >from Ozorkow, Lodz, Dortmund


Naming a Baby Girl #general

Stan <natsnehoc@...>
 

Dear Genners,

As a first time 'Zaidy', I would appreciate any information or guidance
regarding the following three questions:

Can a baby girl be named after her recently deceased great grandfather, who
has not as yet had an unveiling of his memorial? The girl was born some 4
months after the GGF's passing. She is now one week old, (and a real
beauty!).

Is (are) there any restriction(s) as to how long after her birth she should
be named in the Synagogue?

What would be the female version of the male name "Chaim"?

I would like to ensure correctness in terms of religious and genealogical
protocall. Thanks in advance for your assistance.

Stan Cohen
Toronto, Canada
natsnehoc@...

MODEARTOR NOTE: Only messages relating to Jwish Genealogy will be posted
to the group. Religious practices are considerd off-topic to this list.
Stan is encoureged to post a summary of the replies.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Naming a Baby Girl #general

Stan <natsnehoc@...>
 

Dear Genners,

As a first time 'Zaidy', I would appreciate any information or guidance
regarding the following three questions:

Can a baby girl be named after her recently deceased great grandfather, who
has not as yet had an unveiling of his memorial? The girl was born some 4
months after the GGF's passing. She is now one week old, (and a real
beauty!).

Is (are) there any restriction(s) as to how long after her birth she should
be named in the Synagogue?

What would be the female version of the male name "Chaim"?

I would like to ensure correctness in terms of religious and genealogical
protocall. Thanks in advance for your assistance.

Stan Cohen
Toronto, Canada
natsnehoc@...

MODEARTOR NOTE: Only messages relating to Jwish Genealogy will be posted
to the group. Religious practices are considerd off-topic to this list.
Stan is encoureged to post a summary of the replies.


translation/interpretation help #austria-czech

Marc D. Machtinger <marc@...>
 

Dear Fellow Researchers:

I would be grateful for translation/interpretation assistance on a Hungarian
marriage record. I post here because I believe several of the towns of
birth are in Moravia, and I wish to ask whether anyone familiar with those
towns might recognize them in the record. The record is an 1872 marriage
for Sigmund BRAUNER and Betti NEUMAN in Komarom, Hungary. Since I have
several images of the record, I have placed it on a web page rather than on
ViewMate. I have indicated my specific questions on the web page. The URL
is:
http://www.patentstation.com/family2/braunerneumann.htm

I would greatly appreciate any responses. Please respond directly to me at
marc@....

Very truly yours,

Marc D. Machtinger, Buffalo Grove, Illinois, U.S.A.
email: marc@...


Re: Help With Canadian 1911 Census-Winnipeg #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

"Mervin" < mglow@... > wrote:

I have addresses for relatives that lived in Winnipeg in 1911. How do I
translate that information to Districts and sub-districts to aid and limit
my review of the data now on the internet? The addresses I have are in the
2 & 4 hundred block of Jarvis, the 200 block of Dufferin, the 500 block of
Pritchard, the 1st block of Schultz and the 300 block of Manitoba. Thanks in
advance.
See http://www.collectionscanada.ca/archivianet/1911/006003-300-e.html
Census Districts and Sub-districts which refers to
http://tinyurl.com/dt9wn [URL shortened by moderator]
Electoral atlas of the Dominion of Canada, 1904. Apparently this is very
similar to the Census geography in 1911.

(note the webpage address is on two lines)

--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland)
WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany) KOHN (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany)
LANDAU/FREDKIN(Gomel, Mogilev, Belarus)


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech translation/interpretation help #austria-czech

Marc D. Machtinger <marc@...>
 

Dear Fellow Researchers:

I would be grateful for translation/interpretation assistance on a Hungarian
marriage record. I post here because I believe several of the towns of
birth are in Moravia, and I wish to ask whether anyone familiar with those
towns might recognize them in the record. The record is an 1872 marriage
for Sigmund BRAUNER and Betti NEUMAN in Komarom, Hungary. Since I have
several images of the record, I have placed it on a web page rather than on
ViewMate. I have indicated my specific questions on the web page. The URL
is:
http://www.patentstation.com/family2/braunerneumann.htm

I would greatly appreciate any responses. Please respond directly to me at
marc@....

Very truly yours,

Marc D. Machtinger, Buffalo Grove, Illinois, U.S.A.
email: marc@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Help With Canadian 1911 Census-Winnipeg #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

"Mervin" < mglow@... > wrote:

I have addresses for relatives that lived in Winnipeg in 1911. How do I
translate that information to Districts and sub-districts to aid and limit
my review of the data now on the internet? The addresses I have are in the
2 & 4 hundred block of Jarvis, the 200 block of Dufferin, the 500 block of
Pritchard, the 1st block of Schultz and the 300 block of Manitoba. Thanks in
advance.
See http://www.collectionscanada.ca/archivianet/1911/006003-300-e.html
Census Districts and Sub-districts which refers to
http://tinyurl.com/dt9wn [URL shortened by moderator]
Electoral atlas of the Dominion of Canada, 1904. Apparently this is very
similar to the Census geography in 1911.

(note the webpage address is on two lines)

--
Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland)
WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany) KOHN (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany)
LANDAU/FREDKIN(Gomel, Mogilev, Belarus)


World War II Draft Registration access-not "Old Timers" #general

Mjn519@...
 

Is there a way we can access the WWII Draft Registration cards for those who
don't belong in the Old Timers group (the 4th Registration)?

Also, were all boys who were 18 years old and older required to register
regardless of disability (like they do now)?

~Marie Lubman
Chino Hills, CA

Researching:
GREENSTONE, GRINSTJIN (similar spellings), GUTERMAN of Kalvarija;
AUGUST, ZACHER, FISCHER, SOLOMON, LUBMAN, RIVIN


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen World War II Draft Registration access-not "Old Timers" #general

Mjn519@...
 

Is there a way we can access the WWII Draft Registration cards for those who
don't belong in the Old Timers group (the 4th Registration)?

Also, were all boys who were 18 years old and older required to register
regardless of disability (like they do now)?

~Marie Lubman
Chino Hills, CA

Researching:
GREENSTONE, GRINSTJIN (similar spellings), GUTERMAN of Kalvarija;
AUGUST, ZACHER, FISCHER, SOLOMON, LUBMAN, RIVIN


Seeking LEIFERMAN Ancestry - Grandmother - Born Berlin? around 1872. #general

Garlen Neely <sansmoss@...>
 

Any information anyone might have would be most appreciated.

My Grandmother (Johanna LEIFERMAN sp?)came to the United States in 1903. I
believe she was born in Berlin. She was married to my Grandfather (Johannes
VAN HESS) and resided in Altinessen, Germany prior to leaving for the US.
She converted to Catholocism and I believe her family disowned her.

I understand that Leiferman is derived >from a Yiddish word meaning
"messenger".

I appreciate assistance >from anyone who might assist my family in search of
our true heritage.

With kind regards,

Garlen J. Neely
Cotton Valley, LA 71018
sansmoss@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Seeking LEIFERMAN Ancestry - Grandmother - Born Berlin? around 1872. #general

Garlen Neely <sansmoss@...>
 

Any information anyone might have would be most appreciated.

My Grandmother (Johanna LEIFERMAN sp?)came to the United States in 1903. I
believe she was born in Berlin. She was married to my Grandfather (Johannes
VAN HESS) and resided in Altinessen, Germany prior to leaving for the US.
She converted to Catholocism and I believe her family disowned her.

I understand that Leiferman is derived >from a Yiddish word meaning
"messenger".

I appreciate assistance >from anyone who might assist my family in search of
our true heritage.

With kind regards,

Garlen J. Neely
Cotton Valley, LA 71018
sansmoss@...


need help #general

Sabrina Rabinovich
 

Dear list

I'm new on the Jewishgen and need some advice. I was
looking a list of researchers but did not find any.
Maybe some of you knows a good one who works in
Vilna. I have many family names to search in the
region of Smorgany (Lithuania) and Druya (Belarus).
Can any of you confirm the availability of Druya
documents in Lithuanian archives?
Many thanks in advance.

Sabrina Rabinovich
France

Researching: MILMANN, LEVY, RABINOVICH (Smorgany),
JOFE, GRININ (Druya)

MODERATOR NOTE: Recommendations about researchers should be sent privately
and will not be posted to the list.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Fwd: need help #general

Sabrina Rabinovich
 

Dear list

I'm new on the Jewishgen and need some advice. I was
looking a list of researchers but did not find any.
Maybe some of you knows a good one who works in
Vilna. I have many family names to search in the
region of Smorgany (Lithuania) and Druya (Belarus).
Can any of you confirm the availability of Druya
documents in Lithuanian archives?
Many thanks in advance.

Sabrina Rabinovich
France

Researching: MILMANN, LEVY, RABINOVICH (Smorgany),
JOFE, GRININ (Druya)

MODERATOR NOTE: Recommendations about researchers should be sent privately
and will not be posted to the list.


Re: Finding Death Certificates #general

Linda Altman <familysearch@...>
 

Michael;
Have you tried looking at LDS films? They have death certificates for NYC on
film. First get the index for the years you want. Find the names with the
certificate numbers. Then order the films that have those numbers on them or
get them >from NYC. Last time I rented a film >from LDS it was a little over
$3. Thats a lot less than paying a researcher and a lot less than havin NYC
do the search for you.
Linda Altman

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Salzbank" <msalzbank@...>
To: "JewishGen Discussion Group" <jewishgen@...>
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 11:04 AM
Subject: Finding Death Certificates


***snip***

Is there a way for me to locate the certificates if I know the date of
death, and in some cases, even the cemetery?

Missing names include:
Aaron FRIMMERMAN
Reitza (Rose) FRIMMERMAN
Max JORRISCH
Isaak JORRISCH
Mary JORRISCH
Alter JORRISCH

Any suggestions? Thank you

Michael SALZBANK
MSalzbank@...


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Finding Death Certificates #general

Linda Altman <familysearch@...>
 

Michael;
Have you tried looking at LDS films? They have death certificates for NYC on
film. First get the index for the years you want. Find the names with the
certificate numbers. Then order the films that have those numbers on them or
get them >from NYC. Last time I rented a film >from LDS it was a little over
$3. Thats a lot less than paying a researcher and a lot less than havin NYC
do the search for you.
Linda Altman

----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Salzbank" <msalzbank@...>
To: "JewishGen Discussion Group" <jewishgen@...>
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 11:04 AM
Subject: Finding Death Certificates


***snip***

Is there a way for me to locate the certificates if I know the date of
death, and in some cases, even the cemetery?

Missing names include:
Aaron FRIMMERMAN
Reitza (Rose) FRIMMERMAN
Max JORRISCH
Isaak JORRISCH
Mary JORRISCH
Alter JORRISCH

Any suggestions? Thank you

Michael SALZBANK
MSalzbank@...


Re: hatter #general

Flagg <rf@...>
 

Dear Sulamith,

My grandfather, >from Botosani, Romania, was a hatter for some years and
worked for Stetson in Philadelphia after his arrival in the US.

"Mad hatter's disease" is (physical and) mental illness caused by exposure
to mercury used in processing felt. It was long known to be an occupational
hazard, though the exact cause may not have been known at the time. You can
find a lot of information on this by using a search engine like Google. For
example, this excerpt from
http://www.chm.bris.ac.uk/motm/dimethylmercury/dmmj.htm "Unfortunately the
workers in the felt hat trade absorbed mercury through their skins; the
resulting mercury poisoning caused shaking and slurred speech, being known
as "hatter's disease", which is believed to have inspired the character of
the Mad Hatter in Lewis Carroll's Alice in Wonderland...."

Regards,
Alberta

Alberta Freidus-Flagg
Honolulu, Hawaii

(Researching FREIDUS (Zagare, Riga, NYC, Johannesburg);
LEVIT/LEVITT/LEAVITT (Koknese Courland, NYC); BAS/BASS (Courland); SACHS
(Zagare); LEIBOVIT (Botosani, Key West, Miami, Palm Beach, Florida);
WEINSTEIN (Odessa, Key West); APOTHEKER (Iasi, Key West).=20


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: hatter #general

Flagg <rf@...>
 

Dear Sulamith,

My grandfather, >from Botosani, Romania, was a hatter for some years and
worked for Stetson in Philadelphia after his arrival in the US.

"Mad hatter's disease" is (physical and) mental illness caused by exposure
to mercury used in processing felt. It was long known to be an occupational
hazard, though the exact cause may not have been known at the time. You can
find a lot of information on this by using a search engine like Google. For
example, this excerpt from
http://www.chm.bris.ac.uk/motm/dimethylmercury/dmmj.htm "Unfortunately the
workers in the felt hat trade absorbed mercury through their skins; the
resulting mercury poisoning caused shaking and slurred speech, being known
as "hatter's disease", which is believed to have inspired the character of
the Mad Hatter in Lewis Carroll's Alice in Wonderland...."

Regards,
Alberta

Alberta Freidus-Flagg
Honolulu, Hawaii

(Researching FREIDUS (Zagare, Riga, NYC, Johannesburg);
LEVIT/LEVITT/LEAVITT (Koknese Courland, NYC); BAS/BASS (Courland); SACHS
(Zagare); LEIBOVIT (Botosani, Key West, Miami, Palm Beach, Florida);
WEINSTEIN (Odessa, Key West); APOTHEKER (Iasi, Key West).=20