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Re: Thank you for Full-text searching of on-line German-Jewish Periodicals #germany

Zeev Raphael <zeevra@...>
 

Dear Monica Leonards,
I should like to thank you for the posting regarding the German-Jewish
periodicals digitized and on-line at:

www.compactmemory.de

I made a search for "J[acob] Raphael", my late father, and found an article of
his: "Der 'Judenbefehlshaber' im Muensterland" which had been published in 1930
in the Zeitschrift fuer die Geschichte der Juden in Deutschland.

Quite exciting! Best regards,

Zeev Raphael, Haifa E-mail: zeevra@aerodyne.technion.ac.il


German SIG #Germany Re: Thank you for Full-text searching of on-line German-Jewish Periodicals #germany

Zeev Raphael <zeevra@...>
 

Dear Monica Leonards,
I should like to thank you for the posting regarding the German-Jewish
periodicals digitized and on-line at:

www.compactmemory.de

I made a search for "J[acob] Raphael", my late father, and found an article of
his: "Der 'Judenbefehlshaber' im Muensterland" which had been published in 1930
in the Zeitschrift fuer die Geschichte der Juden in Deutschland.

Quite exciting! Best regards,

Zeev Raphael, Haifa E-mail: zeevra@aerodyne.technion.ac.il


Re: The given name Sprintz #germany

Adam Yamey <adamandlopa@...>
 

In view of the points made by the Moderator, here is
some additional information about my two people with
Sprinz or Sophie as their given names.
My two Sprinz names were found on family trees, dating
back to the 1930s. Both of them lived in Bavaria in
the 19th century.

Adam Yamey,London, UK <adamandlopa@yahoo.co.uk>


German SIG #Germany Re: The given name Sprintz #germany

Adam Yamey <adamandlopa@...>
 

In view of the points made by the Moderator, here is
some additional information about my two people with
Sprinz or Sophie as their given names.
My two Sprinz names were found on family trees, dating
back to the 1930s. Both of them lived in Bavaria in
the 19th century.

Adam Yamey,London, UK <adamandlopa@yahoo.co.uk>


Johann Fleischmann, Franconian historian #germany

MBernet@...
 

Hi, some mail I just sent to Johann Felischmann, historian of Jewish life in
Franconia, just bounced.

Does anyone have his current e-mail address? Many thans

Michael Bernet, New York ( www.mem-Ber.net )


German SIG #Germany Johann Fleischmann, Franconian historian #germany

MBernet@...
 

Hi, some mail I just sent to Johann Felischmann, historian of Jewish life in
Franconia, just bounced.

Does anyone have his current e-mail address? Many thans

Michael Bernet, New York ( www.mem-Ber.net )


Re: The female name Sprintz #germany

Jim Bennett <bennett@...>
 

The Spanish word Esperanza {meaning "hope"] became a personal name for
Jewish women, both Sefardim and Ashkenazim. [MOD NOTE: See Kaganoff, p. 55]
In the latter case, the name became corrupted over time and in Europe it
was pronounced "Shprintze". It was common in Poland, Russia and Germany.

It even became a matronymic family name: Shprinzak. Yosef Shprinzak
was the first Speaker of Israel's Knesset.

The name Esperanza is still in modern use. I know a young female lawyer
in Haifa named Esperanza.

Jim Bennett Haifa <bennett@coral.co.il>


German SIG #Germany Re: The female name Sprintz #germany

Jim Bennett <bennett@...>
 

The Spanish word Esperanza {meaning "hope"] became a personal name for
Jewish women, both Sefardim and Ashkenazim. [MOD NOTE: See Kaganoff, p. 55]
In the latter case, the name became corrupted over time and in Europe it
was pronounced "Shprintze". It was common in Poland, Russia and Germany.

It even became a matronymic family name: Shprinzak. Yosef Shprinzak
was the first Speaker of Israel's Knesset.

The name Esperanza is still in modern use. I know a young female lawyer
in Haifa named Esperanza.

Jim Bennett Haifa <bennett@coral.co.il>


William ADLER German Jew? #unitedkingdom

Caroline <cfb@...>
 

Hello,
My great, great, grandfather - William Henry ADLER is listed in the 1901
census as below. However, I have been asked whether I'm sure he really as a
Jew. My source is an aunt who says he was a non-practising Jew. Does
anyone have any advice as to how I might confirm this - ultimately tracing
details of his parents in Germany I guess?

I was also wondering what would define someone as Jewish - especially if
they were born in Germany and not practising? Would his parents have had to
come >from Israel/or be practising Jews?

With thanks,
(Sorry for my naivity)

Caroline Faunce-Brown
Lancaster, England
cfb@pobox.com


ENGLISH CENSUS:

William H. ADLER, Head, 56, living on own means, born in Germany,
naturalized Br. subject
Cacelia E. Wife, 47, born in Orange Free State (Africa) (checkmark
seems to indicate naturalized also, same for son Cecil, below)
Cecil G. Son, 25, articles clerk, born in Orange Free State
Benjamin H. Son, 22, 2nd Lt. in 4th Batt. Royal Fusilliers, born in
Durban, Natal (Africa)
Myra R. Dau, 20, born London, S. Kensington
Ruby Dau in law, 27, born in Durban, Natal
Tibby EVANS Visitor, 21
Maud EVANS Visitor, 20
Thomas C. D. STRATTON (sp?) Visitor, 26, stockbroker agent
Albert MOSS Servant, 26, footman
Henry BALLDOOD Servant, 22, footman
Sarah A. Q----ton Servant, 46, cook
Maria T. LONQUE Servant, 34, ladysmaid (born in France)
Jane CLIFTON Servant, 37, housemaid
Ellen K. CHERRUF Servant, 26, housemaid
Ada M. OLIVER Servant, 20, housemaid
Elizabeth NOWTON Servant, 29, kitchenmaid
Grace SPRAGGS Servant, 17, scullerymaid

The family dwelled at 101 Harrow Weald Park, Middlesex. (census district 15)


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom William ADLER German Jew? #unitedkingdom

Caroline <cfb@...>
 

Hello,
My great, great, grandfather - William Henry ADLER is listed in the 1901
census as below. However, I have been asked whether I'm sure he really as a
Jew. My source is an aunt who says he was a non-practising Jew. Does
anyone have any advice as to how I might confirm this - ultimately tracing
details of his parents in Germany I guess?

I was also wondering what would define someone as Jewish - especially if
they were born in Germany and not practising? Would his parents have had to
come >from Israel/or be practising Jews?

With thanks,
(Sorry for my naivity)

Caroline Faunce-Brown
Lancaster, England
cfb@pobox.com


ENGLISH CENSUS:

William H. ADLER, Head, 56, living on own means, born in Germany,
naturalized Br. subject
Cacelia E. Wife, 47, born in Orange Free State (Africa) (checkmark
seems to indicate naturalized also, same for son Cecil, below)
Cecil G. Son, 25, articles clerk, born in Orange Free State
Benjamin H. Son, 22, 2nd Lt. in 4th Batt. Royal Fusilliers, born in
Durban, Natal (Africa)
Myra R. Dau, 20, born London, S. Kensington
Ruby Dau in law, 27, born in Durban, Natal
Tibby EVANS Visitor, 21
Maud EVANS Visitor, 20
Thomas C. D. STRATTON (sp?) Visitor, 26, stockbroker agent
Albert MOSS Servant, 26, footman
Henry BALLDOOD Servant, 22, footman
Sarah A. Q----ton Servant, 46, cook
Maria T. LONQUE Servant, 34, ladysmaid (born in France)
Jane CLIFTON Servant, 37, housemaid
Ellen K. CHERRUF Servant, 26, housemaid
Ada M. OLIVER Servant, 20, housemaid
Elizabeth NOWTON Servant, 29, kitchenmaid
Grace SPRAGGS Servant, 17, scullerymaid

The family dwelled at 101 Harrow Weald Park, Middlesex. (census district 15)


SCHREINER - Drohobycz, Borislav, Stanislawow #galicia

Marx, Jonathan Schreiner <John@...>
 

Searching: SCHREINER - Drohobycz, Borislav, Stanislawow



On my mother's side (Kathryn Schreiner) I am of the family of the Drohobycz
Schreiners, the same family as Abraham Schreiner, the discoverer of
petroleum, and the first one to distill it at Borislav. >from what I
understand all the Schreiners of the areas listed are related, so this is
directed to all.

Things are a bit confused in my branch, chiefly because my mother's
generation didn't inquire much of my grandfather, Jacob Schreiner, and this
was compounded by me getting interested after the key uncles and aunts were
dead. Also, by the fact my mom was 1 of 10 children which my grandparents
had, and this kept everybody working "on the farm" long hours and little
time for genealogy.

Anyway, my branch went up into Russia >from Drohobycz area or Galicia. The
exact year I don't know. The name that sticks out is Hirsch Schreiner. I
assume he is the one that left. The name was also known as Shtrejner or
Strejner in Russia. When an old "Landsman" would see my grandfather Jacob,
he would call out "Streiner!" None of my uncles and aunts ever knew why.
They just thought the man didn't know how to pronounce the name. However, in
Alexander Beider's book on Jewish surnames of Russia, I found that Schreiner
was indeed called Shtrejner or Strejner. One entry was at Minsk. Dr. Beider
was kind enough to respond to me (years ago) and let me know that the person
listed was Yankel Girschovich Shtrejner. I assume that's one of my
Schreiners. Schreiner seems to be a rare name for Jews in Russia, and indeed
it is only listed in two places: Minsk and Odessa, and both might be
outcroppings of the Galician Schreiners. (The Odessa listing is for Nukhim
Gershonovich Shtrejner, 6 Uspenski Lane.)

Jacob is a common name in my branch, and my grandfather Jacob's uncle was
also named Jacob, and this may be him in Minsk. However, my great
grandfather was a boot maker in St. Petersburg, where, apparently, Jews were
not supposed to be. He used the name Karl in order to sound more German, but
there is some question if that was his actual name. I don't know then if he
was Hirsch or if his father was Hirsch Schreiner. Jacob, son of Hirsch at
Minsk therefore could be my great-great uncle or my grandfather. (The
listing was for 1905, I recall.)

My grandfather was born 1884. Where, I do not know, but he spoke of the
Ukraine. Names that are related to my branch are Isaacson, Giebelhaus or
Gifelhaus, Sidur or Seder, Veilermann or Mannweiler. Grandpa used to recite
many of the Yiddish calques and nicknames for the family and laugh, but
alas, those names are lost now to my generation.

My branch came to the US in 1912 (actually boarding ship at Liverpool on the
morning of April 15 when the news came over that the Titanic sank.)

On another post, a poster mentioned that Abraham Schreiner had his discovery
stolen by Ignacy Lukasiewicz. Is there any evidence for this in source
material, and would this also contain genealogical material relevant to
Abraham?

Sorry about the length of this post, but there really hasn't been much
information on this extended family, and it was and is a very interesting
family. The Schreiners were talented people, with quick wits, ability for
science, the arts and languages. They were proud without arrogance,
accomplished without pretensions, and all around decent people. I would
finally like to recover much that has been lost, and to find if any other
of the Galician branch, well, survived.

Thanks

Jonathan Schreiner Marx

Elk Grove, CA

Respond to dom@cwo.com


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia SCHREINER - Drohobycz, Borislav, Stanislawow #galicia

Marx, Jonathan Schreiner <John@...>
 

Searching: SCHREINER - Drohobycz, Borislav, Stanislawow



On my mother's side (Kathryn Schreiner) I am of the family of the Drohobycz
Schreiners, the same family as Abraham Schreiner, the discoverer of
petroleum, and the first one to distill it at Borislav. >from what I
understand all the Schreiners of the areas listed are related, so this is
directed to all.

Things are a bit confused in my branch, chiefly because my mother's
generation didn't inquire much of my grandfather, Jacob Schreiner, and this
was compounded by me getting interested after the key uncles and aunts were
dead. Also, by the fact my mom was 1 of 10 children which my grandparents
had, and this kept everybody working "on the farm" long hours and little
time for genealogy.

Anyway, my branch went up into Russia >from Drohobycz area or Galicia. The
exact year I don't know. The name that sticks out is Hirsch Schreiner. I
assume he is the one that left. The name was also known as Shtrejner or
Strejner in Russia. When an old "Landsman" would see my grandfather Jacob,
he would call out "Streiner!" None of my uncles and aunts ever knew why.
They just thought the man didn't know how to pronounce the name. However, in
Alexander Beider's book on Jewish surnames of Russia, I found that Schreiner
was indeed called Shtrejner or Strejner. One entry was at Minsk. Dr. Beider
was kind enough to respond to me (years ago) and let me know that the person
listed was Yankel Girschovich Shtrejner. I assume that's one of my
Schreiners. Schreiner seems to be a rare name for Jews in Russia, and indeed
it is only listed in two places: Minsk and Odessa, and both might be
outcroppings of the Galician Schreiners. (The Odessa listing is for Nukhim
Gershonovich Shtrejner, 6 Uspenski Lane.)

Jacob is a common name in my branch, and my grandfather Jacob's uncle was
also named Jacob, and this may be him in Minsk. However, my great
grandfather was a boot maker in St. Petersburg, where, apparently, Jews were
not supposed to be. He used the name Karl in order to sound more German, but
there is some question if that was his actual name. I don't know then if he
was Hirsch or if his father was Hirsch Schreiner. Jacob, son of Hirsch at
Minsk therefore could be my great-great uncle or my grandfather. (The
listing was for 1905, I recall.)

My grandfather was born 1884. Where, I do not know, but he spoke of the
Ukraine. Names that are related to my branch are Isaacson, Giebelhaus or
Gifelhaus, Sidur or Seder, Veilermann or Mannweiler. Grandpa used to recite
many of the Yiddish calques and nicknames for the family and laugh, but
alas, those names are lost now to my generation.

My branch came to the US in 1912 (actually boarding ship at Liverpool on the
morning of April 15 when the news came over that the Titanic sank.)

On another post, a poster mentioned that Abraham Schreiner had his discovery
stolen by Ignacy Lukasiewicz. Is there any evidence for this in source
material, and would this also contain genealogical material relevant to
Abraham?

Sorry about the length of this post, but there really hasn't been much
information on this extended family, and it was and is a very interesting
family. The Schreiners were talented people, with quick wits, ability for
science, the arts and languages. They were proud without arrogance,
accomplished without pretensions, and all around decent people. I would
finally like to recover much that has been lost, and to find if any other
of the Galician branch, well, survived.

Thanks

Jonathan Schreiner Marx

Elk Grove, CA

Respond to dom@cwo.com


Register with JewishGen... #france

Rosanne Leeson <rdleeson@...>
 

JewishGen, which hosts all on-line SIG activities, is asking everyone who
uses its various services to register in the JGFF (JewishGen Family Finder)
and thus obtain a JewishGen researcher number.

SIG members who do **not** have a researcher number will eventually be
excluded >from most JewishGen and FrenchSig programs and features.

You will receive information direct >from JewishGen about this. When that
happens we expect a rush to register and possible delays.

We urge all FrenchSig users to register with the JGFF and obtain a
researcher number now. It is easy and fast to do so at:

http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff


Rosanne Leeson
Pierre Hahn
Co-Coordinators


French SIG #France Register with JewishGen... #france

Rosanne Leeson <rdleeson@...>
 

JewishGen, which hosts all on-line SIG activities, is asking everyone who
uses its various services to register in the JGFF (JewishGen Family Finder)
and thus obtain a JewishGen researcher number.

SIG members who do **not** have a researcher number will eventually be
excluded >from most JewishGen and FrenchSig programs and features.

You will receive information direct >from JewishGen about this. When that
happens we expect a rush to register and possible delays.

We urge all FrenchSig users to register with the JGFF and obtain a
researcher number now. It is easy and fast to do so at:

http://www.jewishgen.org/jgff


Rosanne Leeson
Pierre Hahn
Co-Coordinators


June 2004 update for Yizkor Book Project #hungary

Joyce Field
 

In June 2004 the Yizkor Book Project added four new books, two new
entries, and 11 updates. All translations can be accessed >from
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/translations.html. New and updated
materials are flagged for easy identification as you scroll through
the long alphabetical index.

New books:

-Opoczno, Poland
-Przedborz, Poland
-Ropczyce, Poland
-Tehran Children: indexed under Miscellaneous, Yaldei Tzion-Derech
Hatlaot shel Yaldei Tehran
,http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/Tehran/Tehran.html

New entries >from Pinkas HaKehillot

-Inowlodz, Poland: Poland, volume 1
-Kapciamestis, Lithuania: Lithuania

Updates:

-Brzeziny, Poland
-Dabrowa Gornicza, Poland
-Kralovsky Chlmec, Slovakia
-Krynki, Poland
-Lida, Belarus
-Novogrudok, Belarus
-Rokiskis, Lithuania
-Sambor, Ukraine
-Shumskoye, Ukraine
-Sosnowiec, Poland
-Zgierz, Poland

Please remember that if you want to find if a yizkor book was written
about your ancestral town, you can check that online at the Yizkor
Book Database, http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/database.html.

Another reminder: fundraising yizkor book translation projects are
listed at
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/YizkorTrans.html. Your
donations will pay for professional translations of these books.
Supporting these important projects with a tax-deductible donation
will be much appreciated.

Joyce Field
Yizkor Book Project Manager
jfield@jewishgen.org


Hungary SIG #Hungary June 2004 update for Yizkor Book Project #hungary

Joyce Field
 

In June 2004 the Yizkor Book Project added four new books, two new
entries, and 11 updates. All translations can be accessed >from
http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/translations.html. New and updated
materials are flagged for easy identification as you scroll through
the long alphabetical index.

New books:

-Opoczno, Poland
-Przedborz, Poland
-Ropczyce, Poland
-Tehran Children: indexed under Miscellaneous, Yaldei Tzion-Derech
Hatlaot shel Yaldei Tehran
,http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/Tehran/Tehran.html

New entries >from Pinkas HaKehillot

-Inowlodz, Poland: Poland, volume 1
-Kapciamestis, Lithuania: Lithuania

Updates:

-Brzeziny, Poland
-Dabrowa Gornicza, Poland
-Kralovsky Chlmec, Slovakia
-Krynki, Poland
-Lida, Belarus
-Novogrudok, Belarus
-Rokiskis, Lithuania
-Sambor, Ukraine
-Shumskoye, Ukraine
-Sosnowiec, Poland
-Zgierz, Poland

Please remember that if you want to find if a yizkor book was written
about your ancestral town, you can check that online at the Yizkor
Book Database, http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/database.html.

Another reminder: fundraising yizkor book translation projects are
listed at
http://www.jewishgen.org/JewishGen-erosity/YizkorTrans.html. Your
donations will pay for professional translations of these books.
Supporting these important projects with a tax-deductible donation
will be much appreciated.

Joyce Field
Yizkor Book Project Manager
jfield@jewishgen.org


a thought on this wording Re: Graus Vater #hungary

BruceKitty@...
 

Sounds like it should be "gross"vater for grandfather. The word"graus" is
defined in
the dictionary as "revulsion" or "revolting" , which is a most unlikely
association with
the word "vater" (father). Possibly, the spelling follows the way the
"sound" of the
articulated manner the individual used (dialectical pronounciation perhaps),
and then
proceeded to spell it by own sound usage for this word.
( maybe this was not a nice grandfather- nicknamed "grauss"vater... this is
in jest ofcourse!)
Kitty Sauber


Hungary SIG #Hungary a thought on this wording Re: Graus Vater #hungary

BruceKitty@...
 

Sounds like it should be "gross"vater for grandfather. The word"graus" is
defined in
the dictionary as "revulsion" or "revolting" , which is a most unlikely
association with
the word "vater" (father). Possibly, the spelling follows the way the
"sound" of the
articulated manner the individual used (dialectical pronounciation perhaps),
and then
proceeded to spell it by own sound usage for this word.
( maybe this was not a nice grandfather- nicknamed "grauss"vater... this is
in jest ofcourse!)
Kitty Sauber


Research in Kiev #ukraine

Betty Ross <bettyross@...>
 

I am trying to find someone who could do research for me in the Kiev State
Archives. Can anyone recommend a researcher who is fluent in both English
and Russian?
Thanks in advance for your cooperation.

Please respond privately to bettyross@verizon.net.

Researching HOROWITZ, HAVERBACK, MERCOM and SLEEPER in Berdichev and
Lukashevka. Also BECKANSTIN and MOSTOW in Bialystok.

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Private responses only. Thank you.


Tours #ukraine

Altefox@...
 

Anyone conducting Ukraine and or Galicia tours this year?
Leonard Chernos
Fallbrook, Ca.

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please reply privately.