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Hugo Gold's bohemia book #austria-czech

Harvey Finberg <hjfinberg@...>
 

An informal group of AustriaCzech SIG members are preparing an EXCEL
spread sheet listing information ( language, number of pages, whether
there are illustrations) on each town in Hugo Gold's book on the Jews
of Bohemia. If you can help us ( a little or a lot) please contact
Vera Finberg at hjfinberg@earthlink.net. It is not necessary to own
a copy of the book. It makes no difference where in the world you
are located, you can volunteer for this project.

Vera Finberg
Fairfax Va

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately regarding details of this project.


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Hugo Gold's bohemia book #austria-czech

Harvey Finberg <hjfinberg@...>
 

An informal group of AustriaCzech SIG members are preparing an EXCEL
spread sheet listing information ( language, number of pages, whether
there are illustrations) on each town in Hugo Gold's book on the Jews
of Bohemia. If you can help us ( a little or a lot) please contact
Vera Finberg at hjfinberg@earthlink.net. It is not necessary to own
a copy of the book. It makes no difference where in the world you
are located, you can volunteer for this project.

Vera Finberg
Fairfax Va

MODERATOR NOTE: Please reply privately regarding details of this project.


Re: Hugo Gold's Bohemia & Moravia books #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Vera Finberg writes: <Does anyone personally own either of these Hugo
Gold books and could Xerox the Table of contents for me?

I am especially interested in which entries are in Czech in the
Bohemia book. I understand the Moravia book is in German>.

Thanks to Susan Boyer - another fantastic volunteer - I have the
Bohemia book which has been of great help to me.

I must tell Vera, and everyone else though, that the contents give no
idea of the language of the chapters. Each chapter [and there are
about 253 chapters - two hundred and fifty three!] just has as a
title - the *place name*.

Finally there is a statistical chapter in Czech at the end
p. 729-733

The best approach would be to make an Excel file and then post the
results on our website:

Four columns: [unless you have any better suggestions?]

Title - author - brief comment re contents - language.

This is a big task and I am prepared to volunteer to start the ball
rolling by indexing the first 26 places letter A-B:

Adlerkosteletz > Bukowitz
Who will join me?

Any translation project would be massive and I cannot see how this
can realistically be done by us. I hope I am wrong. Perhaps a few
key places should be targeted first?

Celia Male [U.K.]


Re: Hugo Gold's Bohemia & Moravia books #austria-czech

Ruth Coman <ruth.coman@...>
 

Celia Male has suggested that it would be useful to prepare an Excel sheet
listing the chapters in the Hugo Gold Bohemia book.

I think this is an excellent way of taking this key project forward. We can
use the helpful listing of communities shown on the Austria Czech website.

I will be happy to do C-E (Caslau to Elbogen and approximately the same
number of entries as Celia has volunteered to undertake) and would like to
suggest a 5th column "Number of Pages".

Ruth Coman
London, England


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech Re: Hugo Gold's Bohemia & Moravia books #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Vera Finberg writes: <Does anyone personally own either of these Hugo
Gold books and could Xerox the Table of contents for me?

I am especially interested in which entries are in Czech in the
Bohemia book. I understand the Moravia book is in German>.

Thanks to Susan Boyer - another fantastic volunteer - I have the
Bohemia book which has been of great help to me.

I must tell Vera, and everyone else though, that the contents give no
idea of the language of the chapters. Each chapter [and there are
about 253 chapters - two hundred and fifty three!] just has as a
title - the *place name*.

Finally there is a statistical chapter in Czech at the end
p. 729-733

The best approach would be to make an Excel file and then post the
results on our website:

Four columns: [unless you have any better suggestions?]

Title - author - brief comment re contents - language.

This is a big task and I am prepared to volunteer to start the ball
rolling by indexing the first 26 places letter A-B:

Adlerkosteletz > Bukowitz
Who will join me?

Any translation project would be massive and I cannot see how this
can realistically be done by us. I hope I am wrong. Perhaps a few
key places should be targeted first?

Celia Male [U.K.]


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech RE: Hugo Gold's Bohemia & Moravia books #austria-czech

Ruth Coman <ruth.coman@...>
 

Celia Male has suggested that it would be useful to prepare an Excel sheet
listing the chapters in the Hugo Gold Bohemia book.

I think this is an excellent way of taking this key project forward. We can
use the helpful listing of communities shown on the Austria Czech website.

I will be happy to do C-E (Caslau to Elbogen and approximately the same
number of entries as Celia has volunteered to undertake) and would like to
suggest a 5th column "Number of Pages".

Ruth Coman
London, England


Re: IAJGS NY Conference Attendees - Lederer/Simon - Rakonitz, Bohemia #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Rolf Lederer [Toronto, Canada] has asked for his name to be added to
the list of attendees: Rolf, a very keen genealogist, has been a
long-time member of this SIG and you can see his last message from
2000 in the archives. Rolf is interested in LEDERER >from Prague and
Vienna.

His LEDERER family was originally called SIMON [<1791] and lived in
Rakonitz [Rakovnik}, Bohemia since the early 1700s, if not before.
Herschman SIMON [born in Rakonitz] and Barbara had a son Tobias.

I found this family in the 1793 census where I can see three sons and
three daughters: Another son, Hermann, was born in 1797. Luckily all
this tallies with the data Rolf has >from his Prague archives
research.

Census of Bohemia - 1793 Vol V Rakonitzer Kreis p 360
Thobias LEDERER [linen merchant] wife Fogele, belonging to the Schutz
of Hochlieben.

Sons: Simon, Markus 1786-1829; Isak {Hermann arrives in 1797]
Daughters: Beracha, Nathanna, Bela

Rolf has the girls' names as: Ricka, Nechama and Bella. Apparently
Hermann moved to Prague where he had two sons - Marcus and Theodore.

Intriguingly, I have found a widow - Ester SIMON - in the Rakonitzer
Kreis living with her son Abraham SCHEMANN [must have been SIMON!] in
Patek Herrschaft. She is the only SIMON in the Rakonitzer Kreis.
Abraham is quite a wealthy distiller, who has a private tutor
[Herzmann KAZ >from Kozewiz, Klein Polen] for his four sons and
daughter.

It would be wonderful if Rolf can find more links after this posting
and also in NY where the list of attendees now stands at 23.

Celia Male [U.K.]


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech re: IAJGS NY Conference Attendees - Lederer/Simon - Rakonitz, Bohemia #austria-czech

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

Rolf Lederer [Toronto, Canada] has asked for his name to be added to
the list of attendees: Rolf, a very keen genealogist, has been a
long-time member of this SIG and you can see his last message from
2000 in the archives. Rolf is interested in LEDERER >from Prague and
Vienna.

His LEDERER family was originally called SIMON [<1791] and lived in
Rakonitz [Rakovnik}, Bohemia since the early 1700s, if not before.
Herschman SIMON [born in Rakonitz] and Barbara had a son Tobias.

I found this family in the 1793 census where I can see three sons and
three daughters: Another son, Hermann, was born in 1797. Luckily all
this tallies with the data Rolf has >from his Prague archives
research.

Census of Bohemia - 1793 Vol V Rakonitzer Kreis p 360
Thobias LEDERER [linen merchant] wife Fogele, belonging to the Schutz
of Hochlieben.

Sons: Simon, Markus 1786-1829; Isak {Hermann arrives in 1797]
Daughters: Beracha, Nathanna, Bela

Rolf has the girls' names as: Ricka, Nechama and Bella. Apparently
Hermann moved to Prague where he had two sons - Marcus and Theodore.

Intriguingly, I have found a widow - Ester SIMON - in the Rakonitzer
Kreis living with her son Abraham SCHEMANN [must have been SIMON!] in
Patek Herrschaft. She is the only SIMON in the Rakonitzer Kreis.
Abraham is quite a wealthy distiller, who has a private tutor
[Herzmann KAZ >from Kozewiz, Klein Polen] for his four sons and
daughter.

It would be wonderful if Rolf can find more links after this posting
and also in NY where the list of attendees now stands at 23.

Celia Male [U.K.]


Birth, Death, Marriage Records #ukraine

Arnold Samlan
 

I have traced my family's roots to the town of Yarun (Ukraine) and
neighboring towns.

Can someone tell me whether it is possible to obtain birth, death or
marriage records >from that area, dating to the time period between
1880 - 1918?

Arnold D. Samlan

Researching: KOOPERMAN, SAMLAN, BROTHER, BRODER


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Birth, Death, Marriage Records #ukraine

Arnold Samlan
 

I have traced my family's roots to the town of Yarun (Ukraine) and
neighboring towns.

Can someone tell me whether it is possible to obtain birth, death or
marriage records >from that area, dating to the time period between
1880 - 1918?

Arnold D. Samlan

Researching: KOOPERMAN, SAMLAN, BROTHER, BRODER


Searching for a town #ukraine

Stephenson <graysgrandma@...>
 

I have the name of the town that my grandfather came from. The name was
translated >from my father's birth record and my grandfather's marriage
record in the Odessa Archives. I am unable to determine where the town is
located today, if it still exists.

Does anyone know of a person who specializes in Ukrainian geography that
could help me find this town?

Your help would be appreciated.
Barbara Stephenson
Athens, GA
USA


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Searching for a town #ukraine

Stephenson <graysgrandma@...>
 

I have the name of the town that my grandfather came from. The name was
translated >from my father's birth record and my grandfather's marriage
record in the Odessa Archives. I am unable to determine where the town is
located today, if it still exists.

Does anyone know of a person who specializes in Ukrainian geography that
could help me find this town?

Your help would be appreciated.
Barbara Stephenson
Athens, GA
USA


Looking for Zabotinsky, Volkov, Gulinsky, Annapolsky, Lieberman, Livertovskij #ukraine

ALEX VOLKOV <volkoff@...>
 

Hi All!

I have already some of my homework done, and on many lines in my tree I
faced walls, in particular, a lot "dead-ends" are in Ukraine.
So here is my short wish list, please let me know if you have anything to
say about such last name in those certain places (if you have anything to say
about the very person I am looking for, that's even better!):

-- Name -- Place -- approx. year of certain activity

1. Yakov VOLKOV, Krivoy Rog, got son Aleksandr in 1895

2. Michael (possibly Moses, Moshe) ZABOTINSKY, place either Krivoy Rog or

Ekaterinoslav (now called Dnepropetrovsk), got daughter Galina in 1899

3. Israel GULINSKY, village Ratcevo (now called Ratceve), got son Shlema
(or Solomon) in 1881

4. Isaya ANNAPOLSKY, place either Chigirin or may be Novogeorgievsk, got
daughter Sarah in 1879

5. Yankel LIVERTOVSKIJ, Aleksandria, got daughter Faina in 1914

Thank you for reading my post!

Alex


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Looking for Zabotinsky, Volkov, Gulinsky, Annapolsky, Lieberman, Livertovskij #ukraine

ALEX VOLKOV <volkoff@...>
 

Hi All!

I have already some of my homework done, and on many lines in my tree I
faced walls, in particular, a lot "dead-ends" are in Ukraine.
So here is my short wish list, please let me know if you have anything to
say about such last name in those certain places (if you have anything to say
about the very person I am looking for, that's even better!):

-- Name -- Place -- approx. year of certain activity

1. Yakov VOLKOV, Krivoy Rog, got son Aleksandr in 1895

2. Michael (possibly Moses, Moshe) ZABOTINSKY, place either Krivoy Rog or

Ekaterinoslav (now called Dnepropetrovsk), got daughter Galina in 1899

3. Israel GULINSKY, village Ratcevo (now called Ratceve), got son Shlema
(or Solomon) in 1881

4. Isaya ANNAPOLSKY, place either Chigirin or may be Novogeorgievsk, got
daughter Sarah in 1879

5. Yankel LIVERTOVSKIJ, Aleksandria, got daughter Faina in 1914

Thank you for reading my post!

Alex


Re: Suggestions welcome #ukraine

Judy Simon <heyjude0701@...>
 

Anita, have you considered DNA testing? If you have a male NADWORNY in
your family who can have his Y-DNA tested and if you can convince direct
male NADWORNY descendents on the other lines to have their Y-DNA tested,
then you will know if they are related or not. You can find out more
about DNA testing at www.familytreedna.com My husband's paternal
grandfather was >from Odessa but we know very little about him; we're not
even sure what his surname was. My husband had his Y-DNA tested and had
several near matches whose ancestors were >from Podolia gubernia, about
300 miles northwest of Odessa. We are thinking that one of his
grandfather's ancestors might have moved >from the Podolia area to
Odessa. I have contacted people on JewishGen Family Finder with the
surname that we think might have been my husband's grandfather's who had
ancestors in both Podolia gubernia and Odessa, and one man generously
agreed to have his DNA tested to see if he is an exact match to my
husband. If he is a match, then it would confirm what we think the
family surname was before it was changed and then we can look at the
archives. DNA testing has poked a hole in the brick wall.

Judy Simon

researching: BROZGOL >from Rezekne, Latvia; KAPELUSHNIK >from Rezekne,
Latvia; LEFKOWITZ >from Skierniewice, Poland; KELMER >from Zychlin, Poland


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Re: Suggestions welcome #ukraine

Judy Simon <heyjude0701@...>
 

Anita, have you considered DNA testing? If you have a male NADWORNY in
your family who can have his Y-DNA tested and if you can convince direct
male NADWORNY descendents on the other lines to have their Y-DNA tested,
then you will know if they are related or not. You can find out more
about DNA testing at www.familytreedna.com My husband's paternal
grandfather was >from Odessa but we know very little about him; we're not
even sure what his surname was. My husband had his Y-DNA tested and had
several near matches whose ancestors were >from Podolia gubernia, about
300 miles northwest of Odessa. We are thinking that one of his
grandfather's ancestors might have moved >from the Podolia area to
Odessa. I have contacted people on JewishGen Family Finder with the
surname that we think might have been my husband's grandfather's who had
ancestors in both Podolia gubernia and Odessa, and one man generously
agreed to have his DNA tested to see if he is an exact match to my
husband. If he is a match, then it would confirm what we think the
family surname was before it was changed and then we can look at the
archives. DNA testing has poked a hole in the brick wall.

Judy Simon

researching: BROZGOL >from Rezekne, Latvia; KAPELUSHNIK >from Rezekne,
Latvia; LEFKOWITZ >from Skierniewice, Poland; KELMER >from Zychlin, Poland


Re: digest postings #unitedkingdom

Harvey L Kaplan <harvey@...>
 

We are all busy people, with daily postings >from a number of discussion
groups. Please please please, therefore, could people NOT head their
postings with:

"Re: jcr-uk digest: July 22, 2006"

Tells us nothing about the subject, and prevents a quick scan of subject
headings before deletion.

thanks

Harvey L Kaplan

Glasgow


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Re: digest postings #unitedkingdom

Harvey L Kaplan <harvey@...>
 

We are all busy people, with daily postings >from a number of discussion
groups. Please please please, therefore, could people NOT head their
postings with:

"Re: jcr-uk digest: July 22, 2006"

Tells us nothing about the subject, and prevents a quick scan of subject
headings before deletion.

thanks

Harvey L Kaplan

Glasgow


Sarah PEARL nee PACHTER from Siemiatycze, Grodno Gubernia #general

tina levine
 

I am searching for descendents of my great-aunt Sarah
PEARL nee Pachter, sister of my late grandfather Louis
(Leibe) Pachter.

She immigrated to NYC in 1909. She married and had 3
children, Morris, Laura and Melvin. She died in 1928
and her children were placed in an orphanage in
Brooklyn (The Brooklyn Hebrew Orphan Asylum on Ralph
Avenue). The children later moved to Detroit area
where the sons had a pharmaceutical business. I
believe Laura was a nurse.

Any assistance (information or tips how to reach them)
would be greatly appreciated.

Tina Pachter Levine
NYC


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Sarah PEARL nee PACHTER from Siemiatycze, Grodno Gubernia #general

tina levine
 

I am searching for descendents of my great-aunt Sarah
PEARL nee Pachter, sister of my late grandfather Louis
(Leibe) Pachter.

She immigrated to NYC in 1909. She married and had 3
children, Morris, Laura and Melvin. She died in 1928
and her children were placed in an orphanage in
Brooklyn (The Brooklyn Hebrew Orphan Asylum on Ralph
Avenue). The children later moved to Detroit area
where the sons had a pharmaceutical business. I
believe Laura was a nurse.

Any assistance (information or tips how to reach them)
would be greatly appreciated.

Tina Pachter Levine
NYC