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ISRAEL BER & DINA RUBINSTEIN/'CHAMICHY'(sp) #belarus

a1steve's rubbish removals <a1steve@...>
 

Dear All

I have found details of my gggp's as being Israel Ber
and Dina RUBINSTEIN - both Russian subjects - and I have
been told that they had 13 children in total. One, Chaim,
went to Buenos Aires in around 1910, another, Zelig, presumably
died in the late 1920's as his daughter, Dinah(1909-1941), was sent
to London around this time as she had been orphaned. She had
two known brothers - one who had passed away and one who
was a Captain or Commisar in the Russian Army or a Customs
Offical - names unknown.

Two of Israel and Dina's sons were naturalised in the UK in 1914.
Joseph -born 15/9/1878 and Nathan - born 15/8/1889.
On their files, their place of birth was recorded as
Chmitchim - which was then crossed out to Chamychy and that
was finally crossed out to Chamichy, province of Minsk.

A sister, Rosie/Esther, was born in Babruysk in 1894, and she
married in London in 1915.

I've found a Khomichi Zapol'skiye in Homyel, Belarus, but am
not sure if this would be 'Chamichy'. Any suggestions to this
place name would be appreciated. I also have photographs of
Joe, Nat and Rosie and of Dinah should you be searching for
the RUBINSTEIN name in Minsk.

Naomi Ogin
Brisbane
Searching: BENDEL, BIRK, BRESNARK, BRILLIANT, COVERMAN,
DAVIDOVITCH, DECORVICK, FELDMAN, GLASS, GREENBERG,
GOLD, GROSSMAN, KATZ, KRAMER, KOSSANSKY, LEBIS,
LISEYZNSKI, MANN, MELNICK, NATHAN, OGIN, POLIAKOFF,
RABIN/OVITCH, RANDALL, RUBE/INSTEIN, STEIN/STONE,
TISMAN/TISHMAN/TIESMAN/TESMAN, WILSON/WOOLFSON

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Belarus SIG #Belarus ISRAEL BER & DINA RUBINSTEIN/'CHAMICHY'(sp) #belarus

a1steve's rubbish removals <a1steve@...>
 

Dear All

I have found details of my gggp's as being Israel Ber
and Dina RUBINSTEIN - both Russian subjects - and I have
been told that they had 13 children in total. One, Chaim,
went to Buenos Aires in around 1910, another, Zelig, presumably
died in the late 1920's as his daughter, Dinah(1909-1941), was sent
to London around this time as she had been orphaned. She had
two known brothers - one who had passed away and one who
was a Captain or Commisar in the Russian Army or a Customs
Offical - names unknown.

Two of Israel and Dina's sons were naturalised in the UK in 1914.
Joseph -born 15/9/1878 and Nathan - born 15/8/1889.
On their files, their place of birth was recorded as
Chmitchim - which was then crossed out to Chamychy and that
was finally crossed out to Chamichy, province of Minsk.

A sister, Rosie/Esther, was born in Babruysk in 1894, and she
married in London in 1915.

I've found a Khomichi Zapol'skiye in Homyel, Belarus, but am
not sure if this would be 'Chamichy'. Any suggestions to this
place name would be appreciated. I also have photographs of
Joe, Nat and Rosie and of Dinah should you be searching for
the RUBINSTEIN name in Minsk.

Naomi Ogin
Brisbane
Searching: BENDEL, BIRK, BRESNARK, BRILLIANT, COVERMAN,
DAVIDOVITCH, DECORVICK, FELDMAN, GLASS, GREENBERG,
GOLD, GROSSMAN, KATZ, KRAMER, KOSSANSKY, LEBIS,
LISEYZNSKI, MANN, MELNICK, NATHAN, OGIN, POLIAKOFF,
RABIN/OVITCH, RANDALL, RUBE/INSTEIN, STEIN/STONE,
TISMAN/TISHMAN/TIESMAN/TESMAN, WILSON/WOOLFSON

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VM 12100: Translate German on Husiatyn bris document #general

Linda Epstein
 

Dear Genners,
I need help translating the German portions of the bris document for my ggf,
Samuel SINGER. I can translate the headings and the basic information,
but I need translations for the information listed for the parents and the
remark area (last column on the right). I would love to know the the proper
spelling for the child's name too. Perhaps someone can explain why, if the
event occured in 1886, why my ggf would need a copy in 1920 when he was
already a father and a naturalized U.S. citizen?

http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/viewmateview.asp?key=12100

Thanks,Linda Epstein New Orleans,

Husiatyn: SINGER, TARNORUCKI, HASS/HAAS; Rzeszow: SEMLER, HASENKOPF,
DORNFEST Svencionys: APESKIN (EPSTEIN); Ukraine & Moldova: FILMUS;
Prussia: HIRSH/HIRSCH; Kaunas: HESS


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen VM 12100: Translate German on Husiatyn bris document #general

Linda Epstein
 

Dear Genners,
I need help translating the German portions of the bris document for my ggf,
Samuel SINGER. I can translate the headings and the basic information,
but I need translations for the information listed for the parents and the
remark area (last column on the right). I would love to know the the proper
spelling for the child's name too. Perhaps someone can explain why, if the
event occured in 1886, why my ggf would need a copy in 1920 when he was
already a father and a naturalized U.S. citizen?

http://data.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/viewmateview.asp?key=12100

Thanks,Linda Epstein New Orleans,

Husiatyn: SINGER, TARNORUCKI, HASS/HAAS; Rzeszow: SEMLER, HASENKOPF,
DORNFEST Svencionys: APESKIN (EPSTEIN); Ukraine & Moldova: FILMUS;
Prussia: HIRSH/HIRSCH; Kaunas: HESS


Rabbi Kalman GARBER - 19th Century Lithuania #lithuania

Yehudh bn Shlmo
 

Boker Tov,

I am looking for anyone with knowledge of Rabbi Kalman GARBER,
who lived at some point in Krekenava, Lithuania in the mid 19th
century.

The following is the only factual information I have on him
based on BMD records for his daughter Reizel who is always listed
as being >from Krekenava, Lithuania. Four of Reizel's six children
from both marriages were born in Krekenava, Kedainiai and Survilisk
Lithuania.

1 Kalman GARBER (???? -?????)
+Mina=A0 ???? (???? -?????)
2 Reizel GARBER (1849 - 1931)
+Mayer SCHNEIDER (???? - 1885)
*2nd Husband of Reizel GARBER:
+Dovid BLOSHTEIN (1845 - 1907)

Note that I already have information on almost all the
descendants of Reizel. So at this point I am looking for
information on Kalman GARBER, his ancestors, and
possible other children besides Reizel.

Most likely he would be buried in Krekenava or
Kedainiai. Hopefully someone has access to the
cemetery information in these areas.

Please respond privately.

Shalom Shalom,
Yehudah ben Shlomo

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Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Rabbi Kalman GARBER - 19th Century Lithuania #lithuania

Yehudh bn Shlmo
 

Boker Tov,

I am looking for anyone with knowledge of Rabbi Kalman GARBER,
who lived at some point in Krekenava, Lithuania in the mid 19th
century.

The following is the only factual information I have on him
based on BMD records for his daughter Reizel who is always listed
as being >from Krekenava, Lithuania. Four of Reizel's six children
from both marriages were born in Krekenava, Kedainiai and Survilisk
Lithuania.

1 Kalman GARBER (???? -?????)
+Mina=A0 ???? (???? -?????)
2 Reizel GARBER (1849 - 1931)
+Mayer SCHNEIDER (???? - 1885)
*2nd Husband of Reizel GARBER:
+Dovid BLOSHTEIN (1845 - 1907)

Note that I already have information on almost all the
descendants of Reizel. So at this point I am looking for
information on Kalman GARBER, his ancestors, and
possible other children besides Reizel.

Most likely he would be buried in Krekenava or
Kedainiai. Hopefully someone has access to the
cemetery information in these areas.

Please respond privately.

Shalom Shalom,
Yehudah ben Shlomo

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Suggestions for research methods or resources may be shared with
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Re: Photos of ship: Hamburg -> New York #general

Susan&David
 

The year 1832 pre-dates the invention of photography.
You might locate a painting.
See: http://home.att.net/~arnielang/ship06.html

David Rosen
Boston, MA

Robert Kramer wrote:
We have the manifest of the ship for our first ancestor that arrived
in the US. We would appreciate the address for a copy of the BRIG
LAURA >from Hamburg
snip>>


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Photos of ship: Hamburg -> New York #general

Susan&David
 

The year 1832 pre-dates the invention of photography.
You might locate a painting.
See: http://home.att.net/~arnielang/ship06.html

David Rosen
Boston, MA

Robert Kramer wrote:
We have the manifest of the ship for our first ancestor that arrived
in the US. We would appreciate the address for a copy of the BRIG
LAURA >from Hamburg
snip>>


How best to navigate Antique Maps of Bohemia and Moravia #austria-czech

Frank Eisinger <feising@...>
 

Dear Siggers,

As a continuation of my posting of June 13, permit me to give you some
advice as how to get the most out of these maps. First of all, there are
things that are common to all these maps, and things that are different.

After clicking on the link provided in the June 13th posting, you
may want to visit the "Main Page" in the Main Menu for background and do
your navigation >from there. Note, the maps listed in the "Main menu" are not
in chronological order. The oldest map is the Mueller's Survey, followed by
the !st, 2nd, and the 3rd Military Survey being the newest.

Regardless of which map you select, they all have one thing in common,
and that is "Navigation". By that I mean the ability to move the map to
find a desired place and to zoom in or out. After selecting a "Survey" >from
the "Main menu", selecting a particular map, and then selecting an area
to click on, one is shown a map with symbols superimposed (bottom center).
These symbols are used to navigate the map. Instead of using the + and -
symbols to zoom in and out, I prefer to use the little triangle above the +
sign. By placing the cursor on the triangle, holding down the left mouse
button and moving the triangle either left or right, permits one to zoom
with greater accuracy.

The symbol on the right, the circle with an arrow, when clicked, brings one
back to the same zoom position when starting.

Instead of using the up, down ,left, or right arrows to move the map,
I prefer to place the cursor at any place on the map, hold down the left
mouse button and move the mouse. The map will move in the direction you move
the mouse. If the map cannot be moved any further, release the mouse button,
move the cursor to the other side of the map and repeat the process.

What is different for each of these maps is the additional information they
contain. For instance - The Mueller "Moravia" map has an index of all the places
shown on the total map.

It is located on the far left and far right of the map and is only
partially visible on the map.

When placing the cursor on it, it will indicate m017 (left side) and m018
(right side), and after clicking on either one and zooming in, the index
will be readable. The first column is for place names, the second column is
for location on the grid (large letters on left side of map, small letters
on top side of map) For instance, a town with a location of Aa would be in
the upper left corner of the map.

The 1st Military Survey maps of Bohemia, Moravia and Silesia, and the Second
Military Survey maps of Bohemia and Moravia have listing of places shown on
the far right side of the map sheet. Also shown are the District, Community,
Number of Houses, Number of Stables, and Number of Accommodations for men
and horses.

The 3rd Military Survey map 1:25,000 of Bohemia/Moravia has some information
along the top and right side but no index of towns.

The 1:75,000 map of Bohemia/Moravia/Slovakia has very little information on
the edges of the maps.

Regards,

Frank Eisinger

Saint James,NY


Austria-Czech SIG #Austria-Czech How best to navigate Antique Maps of Bohemia and Moravia #austria-czech

Frank Eisinger <feising@...>
 

Dear Siggers,

As a continuation of my posting of June 13, permit me to give you some
advice as how to get the most out of these maps. First of all, there are
things that are common to all these maps, and things that are different.

After clicking on the link provided in the June 13th posting, you
may want to visit the "Main Page" in the Main Menu for background and do
your navigation >from there. Note, the maps listed in the "Main menu" are not
in chronological order. The oldest map is the Mueller's Survey, followed by
the !st, 2nd, and the 3rd Military Survey being the newest.

Regardless of which map you select, they all have one thing in common,
and that is "Navigation". By that I mean the ability to move the map to
find a desired place and to zoom in or out. After selecting a "Survey" >from
the "Main menu", selecting a particular map, and then selecting an area
to click on, one is shown a map with symbols superimposed (bottom center).
These symbols are used to navigate the map. Instead of using the + and -
symbols to zoom in and out, I prefer to use the little triangle above the +
sign. By placing the cursor on the triangle, holding down the left mouse
button and moving the triangle either left or right, permits one to zoom
with greater accuracy.

The symbol on the right, the circle with an arrow, when clicked, brings one
back to the same zoom position when starting.

Instead of using the up, down ,left, or right arrows to move the map,
I prefer to place the cursor at any place on the map, hold down the left
mouse button and move the mouse. The map will move in the direction you move
the mouse. If the map cannot be moved any further, release the mouse button,
move the cursor to the other side of the map and repeat the process.

What is different for each of these maps is the additional information they
contain. For instance - The Mueller "Moravia" map has an index of all the places
shown on the total map.

It is located on the far left and far right of the map and is only
partially visible on the map.

When placing the cursor on it, it will indicate m017 (left side) and m018
(right side), and after clicking on either one and zooming in, the index
will be readable. The first column is for place names, the second column is
for location on the grid (large letters on left side of map, small letters
on top side of map) For instance, a town with a location of Aa would be in
the upper left corner of the map.

The 1st Military Survey maps of Bohemia, Moravia and Silesia, and the Second
Military Survey maps of Bohemia and Moravia have listing of places shown on
the far right side of the map sheet. Also shown are the District, Community,
Number of Houses, Number of Stables, and Number of Accommodations for men
and horses.

The 3rd Military Survey map 1:25,000 of Bohemia/Moravia has some information
along the top and right side but no index of towns.

The 1:75,000 map of Bohemia/Moravia/Slovakia has very little information on
the edges of the maps.

Regards,

Frank Eisinger

Saint James,NY


Szewel son of Hauszel #lithuania

Sandra Levy <shula2933@...>
 

Is this Polish name Szewel the equivalent ofShaul or Shael?

Does anyone know and does anyone know what is Hauszel in Hebrew or
Yiddish? I've already been told that this is >from Vilkoviskis, Lithuania.

Szewel son of Hauszel >from Wolkowyszki

--
Researching RITTENBERG/GOLDSTEIN/TICKTIN/TICKOCINSKY/TYCKOCIN/KRAMER
/ROSENTHAL/Suwalki & Kovno areas, Lithuania/Montreal & Toronto, Canada
ADLER/LIPKIN/EISENSTEIN/Lithuania
COHEN/LEVIN/Brest, Belarus
LEVINOFF/ZELCOVIN/Kirovgorad, Ukraine/Quebec & Ontario, Canada


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Szewel son of Hauszel #lithuania

Sandra Levy <shula2933@...>
 

Is this Polish name Szewel the equivalent ofShaul or Shael?

Does anyone know and does anyone know what is Hauszel in Hebrew or
Yiddish? I've already been told that this is >from Vilkoviskis, Lithuania.

Szewel son of Hauszel >from Wolkowyszki

--
Researching RITTENBERG/GOLDSTEIN/TICKTIN/TICKOCINSKY/TYCKOCIN/KRAMER
/ROSENTHAL/Suwalki & Kovno areas, Lithuania/Montreal & Toronto, Canada
ADLER/LIPKIN/EISENSTEIN/Lithuania
COHEN/LEVIN/Brest, Belarus
LEVINOFF/ZELCOVIN/Kirovgorad, Ukraine/Quebec & Ontario, Canada


Combining forces to order records from AGAD #poland

Renee Stevens <brstevens@...>
 

I have found a number of records in the JRI-Poland database, including
birth records for my father and mother, along with some of their siblings.

I would like to send away for copies of the records >from AGAD and it was
suggested that I combine forces with someone also doing the same thing to
reduce some of the overhead costs.

Is anyone interested in joining up with me? Please contact me privately at
brstevens"at"verizon.net.

Thanks
Renee Stevens
Bethesda, MD

searching
Glattstein: Zniesienie, Lvov
Wolf: Zniesienie, Lvov, Vienna
Seligman(n): Sokal, Mosty Wielkie, Lvov
Rosengarten: Mosty Wielkie
Tennenbaum: Nieznanow, Lvov
Parnnes: Nieznanow, Lvov


JRI Poland #Poland Combining forces to order records from AGAD #poland

Renee Stevens <brstevens@...>
 

I have found a number of records in the JRI-Poland database, including
birth records for my father and mother, along with some of their siblings.

I would like to send away for copies of the records >from AGAD and it was
suggested that I combine forces with someone also doing the same thing to
reduce some of the overhead costs.

Is anyone interested in joining up with me? Please contact me privately at
brstevens"at"verizon.net.

Thanks
Renee Stevens
Bethesda, MD

searching
Glattstein: Zniesienie, Lvov
Wolf: Zniesienie, Lvov, Vienna
Seligman(n): Sokal, Mosty Wielkie, Lvov
Rosengarten: Mosty Wielkie
Tennenbaum: Nieznanow, Lvov
Parnnes: Nieznanow, Lvov


FACHER family - any possible link to Moses Facher and his daughters Rebecca (Rivka) and Beila (Bila) #poland

Mark Fields <mark.fields@...>
 

I sent out the following letter several years ago to all addresses
having published telephone listings for the surname FACHER in the U.S.
and Canada. Though I did receive a number of responses, and have from
time to time corresponded with people by e-mail since then, I have not
been able to establish any relationship to them.

Perhaps one of your subscribers to can assist me in my search.

Thank you in advance,
Mark D. Fields
mark.fields@...


===============
To the Facher family:

Please allow me to introduce myself. My name is Mark D. Fields and my
great-grandmother on my mother's side of the family was Bayla (Beila
or Bila) Facher. She was born and died in Poland. I am unaware of
the exact dates of birth and death, only that she was married to my
grandfather, Shmaryahu Knie (also spelled Knee in this country), and
that they had 15 children. We know of one sister of Bayla Facher
named Rebecca (Rivka) Facher who did come to the U.S. She lived in
York PA and was married to a successful real estate broker named Jonas
Piperberg. Rebecca's family came >from the region of Poland referred
to as Galicia, close to Krakow.

Rebecca passed away on June 13, 1922, and her tombstone is in South
Hill Hebrew Cemetery in York PA.

I have been working on a family tree for the past six years or more,
and may have contacted you once before by phone in the effort to
establish a relationship between yourselves and my ancestor.

At the time I did not verify Bayla and Rebecca's father's name, which
is mentioned on Rebecca Facher Piperberg's tombstone. Her father's
name was Moshe (Moses).

It is possible that there were other children of Moshe than Bayla
and Rebecca. Could one of your ancestors have been a sibling to Bayla
and Rebecca?

I would be most interested to find out. If so I would complete the
family tree with their name(s) and details. The tree will be on file
for anyone who may be interested to explore his or her roots at the
Douglas E. Goldman Jewish Genealogy Center of the Jewish Diaspora, at
the University of Tel Aviv, Tel Aviv, Israel.

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JRI Poland #Poland FACHER family - any possible link to Moses Facher and his daughters Rebecca (Rivka) and Beila (Bila) #poland

Mark Fields <mark.fields@...>
 

I sent out the following letter several years ago to all addresses
having published telephone listings for the surname FACHER in the U.S.
and Canada. Though I did receive a number of responses, and have from
time to time corresponded with people by e-mail since then, I have not
been able to establish any relationship to them.

Perhaps one of your subscribers to can assist me in my search.

Thank you in advance,
Mark D. Fields
mark.fields@...


===============
To the Facher family:

Please allow me to introduce myself. My name is Mark D. Fields and my
great-grandmother on my mother's side of the family was Bayla (Beila
or Bila) Facher. She was born and died in Poland. I am unaware of
the exact dates of birth and death, only that she was married to my
grandfather, Shmaryahu Knie (also spelled Knee in this country), and
that they had 15 children. We know of one sister of Bayla Facher
named Rebecca (Rivka) Facher who did come to the U.S. She lived in
York PA and was married to a successful real estate broker named Jonas
Piperberg. Rebecca's family came >from the region of Poland referred
to as Galicia, close to Krakow.

Rebecca passed away on June 13, 1922, and her tombstone is in South
Hill Hebrew Cemetery in York PA.

I have been working on a family tree for the past six years or more,
and may have contacted you once before by phone in the effort to
establish a relationship between yourselves and my ancestor.

At the time I did not verify Bayla and Rebecca's father's name, which
is mentioned on Rebecca Facher Piperberg's tombstone. Her father's
name was Moshe (Moses).

It is possible that there were other children of Moshe than Bayla
and Rebecca. Could one of your ancestors have been a sibling to Bayla
and Rebecca?

I would be most interested to find out. If so I would complete the
family tree with their name(s) and details. The tree will be on file
for anyone who may be interested to explore his or her roots at the
Douglas E. Goldman Jewish Genealogy Center of the Jewish Diaspora, at
the University of Tel Aviv, Tel Aviv, Israel.

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately with family information.
Suggestions for research methods or resources may be shared with
the list.


Odessa #ukraine

JUSTICEOFP
 

My husband and I were in Odessa in October of 2006.. Our ship did not offer
a "Jewish Tour" of Odessa, so we hired a taxi. The taxi driver took us to
both synagogues, tourist sights, the Holocaust memorial, a Jewish community
center, and a few other places.
At the Chabad run synagogue, the rabbi gave us a map of "Jewish Odessa."
Some people on our ship had scheduled a bus tour through a tour group which
advertises on the internet.
Linda Winkleman
Wallingford, CT
justiceofp@...


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Odessa #ukraine

JUSTICEOFP
 

My husband and I were in Odessa in October of 2006.. Our ship did not offer
a "Jewish Tour" of Odessa, so we hired a taxi. The taxi driver took us to
both synagogues, tourist sights, the Holocaust memorial, a Jewish community
center, and a few other places.
At the Chabad run synagogue, the rabbi gave us a map of "Jewish Odessa."
Some people on our ship had scheduled a bus tour through a tour group which
advertises on the internet.
Linda Winkleman
Wallingford, CT
justiceofp@...


name #ukraine

stanley solomon <countollie@...>
 

i live in the san fransisco bay area and am
researching family >from bar in the ukraine-is it
possible to explain how the name kianof would be
pronounced if i heard it in the ukraine-i am
researching the name kianof and have not found
anything that resembles that name on jewishgen-the
nearest name that comes up is knopf-could that
possibly be kianof-any help would be greatly
appreciated-
sincerely -
stanley solomon


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine name #ukraine

stanley solomon <countollie@...>
 

i live in the san fransisco bay area and am
researching family >from bar in the ukraine-is it
possible to explain how the name kianof would be
pronounced if i heard it in the ukraine-i am
researching the name kianof and have not found
anything that resembles that name on jewishgen-the
nearest name that comes up is knopf-could that
possibly be kianof-any help would be greatly
appreciated-
sincerely -
stanley solomon