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Re: UK Incoming Passengers #general

joyweave
 

I, too, got a wonderful surprise on the UK Incoming list.
There was a story in the family that my grandfather took off for the old country
to see his mother, leaving my grandmother stranded in Montreal. She told her
children later that when he asked for money to come back home, she told him he'd
gotten himself there and he could get himself back!
While looking for another relative in the UK list, I came across his name. He
arrived at Liverpool on a ship >from Montreal on Sept. 26, 1910 with a through
ticket to Tarnopol (the manifest actually says Buenos Aires, crossed out, with
Tarnopol written above it).
My father was born June 11, 1911. You do the math-- no wonder she was furious!

Joy Weaver
East Islip, NY USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: UK Incoming Passengers #general

joyweave
 

I, too, got a wonderful surprise on the UK Incoming list.
There was a story in the family that my grandfather took off for the old country
to see his mother, leaving my grandmother stranded in Montreal. She told her
children later that when he asked for money to come back home, she told him he'd
gotten himself there and he could get himself back!
While looking for another relative in the UK list, I came across his name. He
arrived at Liverpool on a ship >from Montreal on Sept. 26, 1910 with a through
ticket to Tarnopol (the manifest actually says Buenos Aires, crossed out, with
Tarnopol written above it).
My father was born June 11, 1911. You do the math-- no wonder she was furious!

Joy Weaver
East Islip, NY USA


Michigan Death Certificates online #general

crzprncess <Selsi1098@...>
 

Hello,
Michigan death certificates >from 1898-1920 are beginning to show up on
line! Not all counties are up yet.

URL: http://haldigitalcollections.cdmhost.com
Be sure to uncheck all the boxes except for death records on the search page.

This web site also has a lot of interesting resources, including
naturalization indexes.

I should add that the search page was up and running the other day,
but appears to be down at the moment. Hopefully, this is a temporary
glitch.

Happy hunting!
Shelly Levin
USA
Detroit, Michigan: AISENSHTEIN, BALL, BERMAN, BLAS, FLASTERSTEIN,
FOSTER, GABELMAN, GORELIK, KADISH, KROHNGOLD, LICHTENSTEIN, POSNER,
SHAPIRO, STEIN, UNGERLEIDER Dallas,TX: NEWMAN; Iowa: HANDLER;
San Francisco: PORT; New York:FINKELSTEIN. Anywhere: FROMSON


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Michigan Death Certificates online #general

crzprncess <Selsi1098@...>
 

Hello,
Michigan death certificates >from 1898-1920 are beginning to show up on
line! Not all counties are up yet.

URL: http://haldigitalcollections.cdmhost.com
Be sure to uncheck all the boxes except for death records on the search page.

This web site also has a lot of interesting resources, including
naturalization indexes.

I should add that the search page was up and running the other day,
but appears to be down at the moment. Hopefully, this is a temporary
glitch.

Happy hunting!
Shelly Levin
USA
Detroit, Michigan: AISENSHTEIN, BALL, BERMAN, BLAS, FLASTERSTEIN,
FOSTER, GABELMAN, GORELIK, KADISH, KROHNGOLD, LICHTENSTEIN, POSNER,
SHAPIRO, STEIN, UNGERLEIDER Dallas,TX: NEWMAN; Iowa: HANDLER;
San Francisco: PORT; New York:FINKELSTEIN. Anywhere: FROMSON


Cleveland Cemeteries Photo request #general

crzprncess <Selsi1098@...>
 

Dear Genners,

I am looking for people willing to take grave photos at the following
Cleveland, Ohio area cemeteries:

1. Lansing Cemetery, Cleveland; 2. Ridge Road Cemetery, Cleveland;
3. Warrensville West Cemetery, Shaker Heights; 4. Zion Memorial Park,
Bedford Heights.

I have specific grave locations. Please reply privately.

Thank you!

Shelly Levin
USA
crzprncess@aol.com
Cleveland: BLAUSHILD, BLAZ, DAVIS, ELSON, FABER/FARBER,FABRYTZKI,
FINE, FROMSON, GABELMAN, GLASS, GREENBERG, HANDLER,KOTOFSKY, KUREJWOWSKY,
KURSON, KWAIT, LANGUS, LEFELMAN, LEVIN,LIPOFF, LIPOWICZ, MILEWICZ, MILLER,
NAFTULIN, NUDEL, NUDELMAN,RABINOWITZ, ROBINSON, SALKIN, SHAPIRO, SPERO,
SHIFFMAN,SILVERSTEIN, SOLNIK, SUMERFELD, TUSHMAN, UNGERLEIDER, WILKOFF,
WILKOFSKY, WITKEWICZ,


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Cleveland Cemeteries Photo request #general

crzprncess <Selsi1098@...>
 

Dear Genners,

I am looking for people willing to take grave photos at the following
Cleveland, Ohio area cemeteries:

1. Lansing Cemetery, Cleveland; 2. Ridge Road Cemetery, Cleveland;
3. Warrensville West Cemetery, Shaker Heights; 4. Zion Memorial Park,
Bedford Heights.

I have specific grave locations. Please reply privately.

Thank you!

Shelly Levin
USA
crzprncess@aol.com
Cleveland: BLAUSHILD, BLAZ, DAVIS, ELSON, FABER/FARBER,FABRYTZKI,
FINE, FROMSON, GABELMAN, GLASS, GREENBERG, HANDLER,KOTOFSKY, KUREJWOWSKY,
KURSON, KWAIT, LANGUS, LEFELMAN, LEVIN,LIPOFF, LIPOWICZ, MILEWICZ, MILLER,
NAFTULIN, NUDEL, NUDELMAN,RABINOWITZ, ROBINSON, SALKIN, SHAPIRO, SPERO,
SHIFFMAN,SILVERSTEIN, SOLNIK, SUMERFELD, TUSHMAN, UNGERLEIDER, WILKOFF,
WILKOFSKY, WITKEWICZ,


Odessa Families 1894-1918 #ukraine

ANDREA MASSION <almassion@...>
 

This past summer, a number of us researched trying to post a copy of
the Odessa Oblast Archives list of Jewish heads of families in residence
there, thanks to Larry Binenbaum. The constraints of rights and release
were enormous and overwhelming to us, all volunteers. Expert Miriam Weiner
and her Roots to Roots Foundation has received the rights and will be
indexing the list. Below is the news >from the recent online Dates & Updates
of the JGS of Los Angeles.
For all of you who responded with assistance, I thank you.

Sincerely, Andrea Massion

"Miriam Weiner, President, www.rtrfoundation.org
The Routes to Roots Foundation, Inc. is pleased to
announce that it has signed a cooperative agreement with
the Odessa Oblast Archives whereby it will index names
from a collection of 4,505 heads of Jewish families in
Odessa for the period 1894-1918. The searchable
database will be added to the existing database at
http://www.rtrfoundation.org. There will be ordering
instructions (>from the archives) for anyone interested in
requesting a digital copy of specific documents referred to
in the database. For more information about this
collection, see: http://www.rtrfoundation.org/Odessa.html
about this exciting collection of documents.

Next, RTR will be adding a search function by name to
the Archive Database at the Foundation website for the
1858 Revisky Skasky (list of inhabitants) for the City of
Cherkassy in Ukraine. This is also a joint venture with
the Cherkassy Oblast Archives and there will be
instructions on the website as to how one can request
digital copies of specific documents >from the archives.
There are numerous other projects "in the works" and
announcements will be made as they become completed
and online. "

Andrea Massion, Kherson Coordinator

Researching MASSION >from Ananiev, Ukr; OURIN(SON) and Babitsh >from
Streshin, BEL; KATZNELSON >from Bobroisk; GREENSPOON and TIGAY >from
Balta and Uman, UKR; SMALTZ, KOFLER(?).
http://web.mac.com/almassion/Ananiev,_Ukraine/Introduction_Purpose.html


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Odessa Families 1894-1918 #ukraine

ANDREA MASSION <almassion@...>
 

This past summer, a number of us researched trying to post a copy of
the Odessa Oblast Archives list of Jewish heads of families in residence
there, thanks to Larry Binenbaum. The constraints of rights and release
were enormous and overwhelming to us, all volunteers. Expert Miriam Weiner
and her Roots to Roots Foundation has received the rights and will be
indexing the list. Below is the news >from the recent online Dates & Updates
of the JGS of Los Angeles.
For all of you who responded with assistance, I thank you.

Sincerely, Andrea Massion

"Miriam Weiner, President, www.rtrfoundation.org
The Routes to Roots Foundation, Inc. is pleased to
announce that it has signed a cooperative agreement with
the Odessa Oblast Archives whereby it will index names
from a collection of 4,505 heads of Jewish families in
Odessa for the period 1894-1918. The searchable
database will be added to the existing database at
http://www.rtrfoundation.org. There will be ordering
instructions (>from the archives) for anyone interested in
requesting a digital copy of specific documents referred to
in the database. For more information about this
collection, see: http://www.rtrfoundation.org/Odessa.html
about this exciting collection of documents.

Next, RTR will be adding a search function by name to
the Archive Database at the Foundation website for the
1858 Revisky Skasky (list of inhabitants) for the City of
Cherkassy in Ukraine. This is also a joint venture with
the Cherkassy Oblast Archives and there will be
instructions on the website as to how one can request
digital copies of specific documents >from the archives.
There are numerous other projects "in the works" and
announcements will be made as they become completed
and online. "

Andrea Massion, Kherson Coordinator

Researching MASSION >from Ananiev, Ukr; OURIN(SON) and Babitsh >from
Streshin, BEL; KATZNELSON >from Bobroisk; GREENSPOON and TIGAY >from
Balta and Uman, UKR; SMALTZ, KOFLER(?).
http://web.mac.com/almassion/Ananiev,_Ukraine/Introduction_Purpose.html


FW: draft to the Tzar army #ukraine

mathov <mathov@...>
 

Dear Friends
I Think that all the information about changing the Surname to
avoid been found by the Tzar army are true, like the change of
address or age.

But Tzar"s officials were not always fooled by the difficulty to
recognize people who were willing not to join the force.

And that created another way of drafting not by Surnames but
by percentage of dwellers of the village

This different way of draft was effective and created a lot of
tension in the community. And many times the Orphans or the son
of poor or weak families were draft easily

Yehuda MATHOV in Israel


genealogycal researching:
SINGER >from Beltzy Bessarabia. and Blanc Doctorovich Lanfir Hick Wantman.
MATOFF Mathov Dashevsky Vulischer Schulkin >from Ukrayne & Argentine


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine FW: draft to the Tzar army #ukraine

mathov <mathov@...>
 

Dear Friends
I Think that all the information about changing the Surname to
avoid been found by the Tzar army are true, like the change of
address or age.

But Tzar"s officials were not always fooled by the difficulty to
recognize people who were willing not to join the force.

And that created another way of drafting not by Surnames but
by percentage of dwellers of the village

This different way of draft was effective and created a lot of
tension in the community. And many times the Orphans or the son
of poor or weak families were draft easily

Yehuda MATHOV in Israel


genealogycal researching:
SINGER >from Beltzy Bessarabia. and Blanc Doctorovich Lanfir Hick Wantman.
MATOFF Mathov Dashevsky Vulischer Schulkin >from Ukrayne & Argentine


Re: More name changes to avoid conscription #ukraine

Carole G. Vogel <carolevogel@...>
 

My husband's great-grandfather Aaron DAVIDOWITCH and his brother-in-law and
Moishe Leib DAVIDOWITCH came to Philadelphia sometime in the late 1880s from
Bessarabia. They had paid handsomely for the passports of two brothers
Davidowitch who had served in the Russian Army but had subsequently died.
Both Aaron and Moishe used their assumed names for the rest of their lives.
We have learned Moishe Leib's real name: Moses GELFONT son of Reuven and
Frieda but we don't where he was born.

We don't know if Aaron's first name is really Aaron but we know that his
father was named Chaim David and his mother was Hannah. One of them had the
surname GRUBSTEIN and had some connection to Balta. The other was named
GELBFISH and is related somehow to the movie mogul Samuel GOLDWYN of MGM
fame who came >from Warsaw.

Chaim David died in the old country but his wife Chana came to America and
became a peddler in the south, selling pots and pins, needles and thread.
She died circa 1896 when a train slammed into her horse and wagon. We don't
know where in the south this happened but somewhere there is a gravestone
for Chana with the surname GRUBSTEIN, GELBFISH or GOLDFISH.

Carole Garbuny Vogel
Lexington, Massachusetts, USA


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine RE: More name changes to avoid conscription #ukraine

Carole G. Vogel <carolevogel@...>
 

My husband's great-grandfather Aaron DAVIDOWITCH and his brother-in-law and
Moishe Leib DAVIDOWITCH came to Philadelphia sometime in the late 1880s from
Bessarabia. They had paid handsomely for the passports of two brothers
Davidowitch who had served in the Russian Army but had subsequently died.
Both Aaron and Moishe used their assumed names for the rest of their lives.
We have learned Moishe Leib's real name: Moses GELFONT son of Reuven and
Frieda but we don't where he was born.

We don't know if Aaron's first name is really Aaron but we know that his
father was named Chaim David and his mother was Hannah. One of them had the
surname GRUBSTEIN and had some connection to Balta. The other was named
GELBFISH and is related somehow to the movie mogul Samuel GOLDWYN of MGM
fame who came >from Warsaw.

Chaim David died in the old country but his wife Chana came to America and
became a peddler in the south, selling pots and pins, needles and thread.
She died circa 1896 when a train slammed into her horse and wagon. We don't
know where in the south this happened but somewhere there is a gravestone
for Chana with the surname GRUBSTEIN, GELBFISH or GOLDFISH.

Carole Garbuny Vogel
Lexington, Massachusetts, USA


Yiddish pronunciation and accents #ukraine

cyril fox <c-fox4@...>
 

For those interested in Yiddish and its dialects, there is an active
programme of research in Vilnius.

Professor Dovid Katz, son the New York Yiddish poet Menke Katz, is
Professor of Yiddish at Vilnius University.

He came to London a few years ago and lectured to us at the Institute of
Jewish Studies of London University.

I was impressed by his knowledge.

He is an expert on Yiddish language and does research in regional accents.

Prof Dov-Ber Kerler (D..Phil in Yiddish Philology >from Oxford University) of
Indiana University is his great collaborator.

Have a look at the website: www.dovidkatz.net/

On www.judiacvilnius you will find archived copies of the Vilnius Yiddish
Institute Newsletter - with much of interest to genealogists.

I should add that Professors Katz and Kerler are not professional
genealogical researchers , they are academics.


On the lighter side, both Katz and Kerler have an extraordinary predilection
for facial hair , with Katz winning by a long beard.

See: photos: www.judaicvilnius.com/en/main/program/educator


Dr Cyril Fox
London


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Yiddish pronunciation and accents #ukraine

cyril fox <c-fox4@...>
 

For those interested in Yiddish and its dialects, there is an active
programme of research in Vilnius.

Professor Dovid Katz, son the New York Yiddish poet Menke Katz, is
Professor of Yiddish at Vilnius University.

He came to London a few years ago and lectured to us at the Institute of
Jewish Studies of London University.

I was impressed by his knowledge.

He is an expert on Yiddish language and does research in regional accents.

Prof Dov-Ber Kerler (D..Phil in Yiddish Philology >from Oxford University) of
Indiana University is his great collaborator.

Have a look at the website: www.dovidkatz.net/

On www.judiacvilnius you will find archived copies of the Vilnius Yiddish
Institute Newsletter - with much of interest to genealogists.

I should add that Professors Katz and Kerler are not professional
genealogical researchers , they are academics.


On the lighter side, both Katz and Kerler have an extraordinary predilection
for facial hair , with Katz winning by a long beard.

See: photos: www.judaicvilnius.com/en/main/program/educator


Dr Cyril Fox
London


JAROSCHEWSKY - UKRAINE & BERLIN #ukraine

Jan <janice.rees@...>
 

I am trying to help a friend research her grandfather's family with the
name of Joseph Jaroschewsky, who on coming to England around 1907
changed his surname to Elkin. The family story tells that Joseph came
from Odessa, Ukraine.
A contact in Odessa has kindly transcribed a letter for me and it
includes other names. These are:

Leva, Haim Leiba, Minochka and Zalman, Yul'ka, Masha, Valya, Lazar.
These appear to be members of the Jaroschewsky family. Also the letter
sends regards >from the Kaganoviche and Leibzon families who were
obviously good friends.

Joseph had two brothers Isidor and Ivan. Isidor was a bookstore keeper
in Berlin around 1928/1929. Isidor wrote to Joseph with a view to
setting up a library in his apartment, but we have no way of finding out
if that ever happened.

Joseph (using the surname Elkin) married Ada Elizabeth Cutriss Clark in
1922 at the Hackney Registry Office. Witnesses were Matilda Ballard and
M Isaacs. The marriage certificates states that Joseph's father was
John. The address at the time of marriage was 90 Brighton Road, Stoke
Newington.

If anyone can help me trace this family or if you have come across it in
your own research, please contact me.

Best wishes
Jan Rees
France

JAROSCHEWSKY


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine JAROSCHEWSKY - UKRAINE & BERLIN #ukraine

Jan <janice.rees@...>
 

I am trying to help a friend research her grandfather's family with the
name of Joseph Jaroschewsky, who on coming to England around 1907
changed his surname to Elkin. The family story tells that Joseph came
from Odessa, Ukraine.
A contact in Odessa has kindly transcribed a letter for me and it
includes other names. These are:

Leva, Haim Leiba, Minochka and Zalman, Yul'ka, Masha, Valya, Lazar.
These appear to be members of the Jaroschewsky family. Also the letter
sends regards >from the Kaganoviche and Leibzon families who were
obviously good friends.

Joseph had two brothers Isidor and Ivan. Isidor was a bookstore keeper
in Berlin around 1928/1929. Isidor wrote to Joseph with a view to
setting up a library in his apartment, but we have no way of finding out
if that ever happened.

Joseph (using the surname Elkin) married Ada Elizabeth Cutriss Clark in
1922 at the Hackney Registry Office. Witnesses were Matilda Ballard and
M Isaacs. The marriage certificates states that Joseph's father was
John. The address at the time of marriage was 90 Brighton Road, Stoke
Newington.

If anyone can help me trace this family or if you have come across it in
your own research, please contact me.

Best wishes
Jan Rees
France

JAROSCHEWSKY


Re: Confidentiality of family tree #general

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

It is totally inappropriate to post someone else's family tree without their
permission. Further, to refuse to remove it once it is posted at the
request of the originator of the material is also not a done thing. It is
something that happens quite a bit though and I have heard about it >from
numerous genealogical researchers.

This is especially true, if the person is not really related. or if the
information was actually in draft form and there are errors which needed to
be corrected or information that required verification before publication.
It means that incorrect and misleading information is being posted on the
web for others to utilize. Also, when the person who take the information
also publishes it in an incorrect form, that is also problematic.

I don't think anyone who objects to this type of activity wants monetary
damages, only removal of the material.

It is the same as plagerizing material which I have found many people doing
on the web. They often take items or whole databases >from JewishGen,
including my own, and place it on their web sites and call it their own
work.

My assumption is that the people who do this are not intelligent enough to
do the work themselves and need to take other's work so that they can have
big family trees or big databases attributed to them.

The only thing to do is be careful about who you give your work to and
restrict it to information on those who have already passed away.

Remember, the material you put on-line is probably there forever. Your
grandchildren will be "googling" one day and see what you have done as well
as that which someone took >from your work and did it incorrectly.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Confidentiality of family tree #general

Ann Rabinowitz <annrab@...>
 

It is totally inappropriate to post someone else's family tree without their
permission. Further, to refuse to remove it once it is posted at the
request of the originator of the material is also not a done thing. It is
something that happens quite a bit though and I have heard about it >from
numerous genealogical researchers.

This is especially true, if the person is not really related. or if the
information was actually in draft form and there are errors which needed to
be corrected or information that required verification before publication.
It means that incorrect and misleading information is being posted on the
web for others to utilize. Also, when the person who take the information
also publishes it in an incorrect form, that is also problematic.

I don't think anyone who objects to this type of activity wants monetary
damages, only removal of the material.

It is the same as plagerizing material which I have found many people doing
on the web. They often take items or whole databases >from JewishGen,
including my own, and place it on their web sites and call it their own
work.

My assumption is that the people who do this are not intelligent enough to
do the work themselves and need to take other's work so that they can have
big family trees or big databases attributed to them.

The only thing to do is be careful about who you give your work to and
restrict it to information on those who have already passed away.

Remember, the material you put on-line is probably there forever. Your
grandchildren will be "googling" one day and see what you have done as well
as that which someone took >from your work and did it incorrectly.

Ann Rabinowitz
annrab@bellsouth.net


Re: Groups from Lithuania #southafrica

Wendy Landau <wendy.landau@...>
 

Re Groups >from Lithuania (see below), the information is in the
archives of the SAJBD. Contact Naomi Musiker, the archivist, via
archives@beyachad.co.za or 011 645 2500.

Wendy Landau
Researcher
SA Friends of Beth Hatefutsoth

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Subject: Groups >from Lithuania
From: "Ari Herrmann" <aherman@tesslerdevelopments.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:15:16 -0400

I have heard that in the 30's, 40's and perhaps 50's there were groups of
people >from different villages in Lithuania etc that would meet, there was
the plungianer group etc, I hear that they used to have minutes which were
recorded and are now kept by the B'D. Does anyone know about this? Or
researched it?


Sincerely

Ari Herrmann


South Africa SIG #SouthAfrica RE: Groups from Lithuania #southafrica

Wendy Landau <wendy.landau@...>
 

Re Groups >from Lithuania (see below), the information is in the
archives of the SAJBD. Contact Naomi Musiker, the archivist, via
archives@beyachad.co.za or 011 645 2500.

Wendy Landau
Researcher
SA Friends of Beth Hatefutsoth

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Subject: Groups >from Lithuania
From: "Ari Herrmann" <aherman@tesslerdevelopments.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 10:15:16 -0400

I have heard that in the 30's, 40's and perhaps 50's there were groups of
people >from different villages in Lithuania etc that would meet, there was
the plungianer group etc, I hear that they used to have minutes which were
recorded and are now kept by the B'D. Does anyone know about this? Or
researched it?


Sincerely

Ari Herrmann