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Location of Pagol Village #ukraine

Sandi Goldsmith
 

Evelyn Steinberg wanted to know where Pogol is. I'm pretty sure she is
looking for Podol/Podil which is a historic district in Kiev.

This >from Wikipedia:

The Podil or Podilskyi Raion, Podil, Podilskyi Raion) is a historic
neighborhood and an administrative raion (district) in Kiev, the capital of
Ukraine. It is one of the oldest neighborhoods of Kiev, the birthplace of the city's trade, commerce and industry. It still contains many architectural and historical landmarks, and new archeological sites are still being revealed.

The Great Choral Synagogue of Kiev also known as the Podil Synagogue is
still in operation.

Sandi Goldsmith
Georgia - USA

Evelyn Steinberg wrote:
I assume it is near Kyyiv as the family always said that's
where they were from. I have not been able to locate a town called Pagol
anywhere in the former Russian Empire. Has anyone heard of this town or do
they have suggestions about how I might locate it?


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Location of Pagol Village #ukraine

Sandi Goldsmith
 

Evelyn Steinberg wanted to know where Pogol is. I'm pretty sure she is
looking for Podol/Podil which is a historic district in Kiev.

This >from Wikipedia:

The Podil or Podilskyi Raion, Podil, Podilskyi Raion) is a historic
neighborhood and an administrative raion (district) in Kiev, the capital of
Ukraine. It is one of the oldest neighborhoods of Kiev, the birthplace of the city's trade, commerce and industry. It still contains many architectural and historical landmarks, and new archeological sites are still being revealed.

The Great Choral Synagogue of Kiev also known as the Podil Synagogue is
still in operation.

Sandi Goldsmith
Georgia - USA

Evelyn Steinberg wrote:
I assume it is near Kyyiv as the family always said that's
where they were from. I have not been able to locate a town called Pagol
anywhere in the former Russian Empire. Has anyone heard of this town or do
they have suggestions about how I might locate it?


What kind of Jews lived in Bila Tserkva? #ukraine

benmaslow@...
 

My family has its roots in the town of Bila Tserkva, about 50 miles
outside of Kiev and less than 20 miles >from the town of Skvare, which
I know to be a large group of Chassidim. I am wondering if anyone
knows were the Jews of Bila Tserkva in the late 1800s and early 1900s
Chassidim? And if so, what type of Chassidim? It makes sense to me
that they might have been Skvare Chassidim given their proximity, or
possibly Chernobler Chassidim as that was a very large group in the
1800s. Any information would be appreciated. Thank you!

Ben Maslow
Monsey, NY

Researching MASLOW, MASLOVICH/MASLOVITZ >from Kiev area of Ukraine.
ROSEN/ROSSEN/ROSIN >from Botosani, Romania.


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine What kind of Jews lived in Bila Tserkva? #ukraine

benmaslow@...
 

My family has its roots in the town of Bila Tserkva, about 50 miles
outside of Kiev and less than 20 miles >from the town of Skvare, which
I know to be a large group of Chassidim. I am wondering if anyone
knows were the Jews of Bila Tserkva in the late 1800s and early 1900s
Chassidim? And if so, what type of Chassidim? It makes sense to me
that they might have been Skvare Chassidim given their proximity, or
possibly Chernobler Chassidim as that was a very large group in the
1800s. Any information would be appreciated. Thank you!

Ben Maslow
Monsey, NY

Researching MASLOW, MASLOVICH/MASLOVITZ >from Kiev area of Ukraine.
ROSEN/ROSSEN/ROSIN >from Botosani, Romania.


Sixty-seven years since Skalat #galicia

Israel P
 

The annual memorial meeting for Skalat will take place Thursday at
five in the afternoon, at the Skalat monument in the Holon cemetery,
near Tel-Aviv.

For those of you abroad this is the second day of Shavuot and many
of you will be saying Yizkor at the same time as our memorial
meeting. If you have Skalat connections, you might want to keep
them in mind at that time.

Israel Pickholtz
Jerusalem


Gesher Galicia SIG #Galicia Sixty-seven years since Skalat #galicia

Israel P
 

The annual memorial meeting for Skalat will take place Thursday at
five in the afternoon, at the Skalat monument in the Holon cemetery,
near Tel-Aviv.

For those of you abroad this is the second day of Shavuot and many
of you will be saying Yizkor at the same time as our memorial
meeting. If you have Skalat connections, you might want to keep
them in mind at that time.

Israel Pickholtz
Jerusalem


Help needed-translation of 1837 Checiny Birth Record for Josek Cyna #poland

Paul Cina
 

Hi All,

Can anyone assist in translating a birth record >from 1837 in Checiny
which I have uploaded to viewmate at:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=15410

I believe this is the birth record of Josek Cyna, son of Zelman Cyna
and Sura LNU. I would like to confirm this as well as see any other
information in the record - any help would be greatly appreciated.

Also, if anyone else is researching the Cyna (Suna, Cina) family from
Konskie or Radom then please drop me a line.

Thanks in advance,

Paul
--
Paul Cina
E: paul.cina@gmail.com

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


JRI Poland #Poland Help needed-translation of 1837 Checiny Birth Record for Josek Cyna #poland

Paul Cina
 

Hi All,

Can anyone assist in translating a birth record >from 1837 in Checiny
which I have uploaded to viewmate at:

http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=15410

I believe this is the birth record of Josek Cyna, son of Zelman Cyna
and Sura LNU. I would like to confirm this as well as see any other
information in the record - any help would be greatly appreciated.

Also, if anyone else is researching the Cyna (Suna, Cina) family from
Konskie or Radom then please drop me a line.

Thanks in advance,

Paul
--
Paul Cina
E: paul.cina@gmail.com

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


Viewmate VM1528: 1827 Polish Translation #poland

Dave Smith <rhombictorte@...>
 

All -

I would really appreciate someone taking a look at the marriage record I
just re-posted on Viewmate and let me know if you can decipher brides name,
parents, and residences. The link is below.

- Dave Smith

http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/viewmateview.asp?key=15281

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


JRI Poland #Poland Viewmate VM1528: 1827 Polish Translation #poland

Dave Smith <rhombictorte@...>
 

All -

I would really appreciate someone taking a look at the marriage record I
just re-posted on Viewmate and let me know if you can decipher brides name,
parents, and residences. The link is below.

- Dave Smith

http://www.jewishgen.org/ViewMate/viewmateview.asp?key=15281

MODERATOR'S NOTE: Please respond privately.


Plunge vital records #lithuania

Howard Margol
 

The following Plunge death and divorce records have just been translated
and are in the process of being sent to qualified donors to the Plunge
Vital Records Project.

Plunge deaths 1842, 1844, 1854-1861 - 484 records.
Plunge divorces 1839-1856 - 24 records.

Work will start on May 17 to translate another 1,500 Plunge death
records. After that is completed, no additional funds will be available
to translate more Plunge vital records. Rather than wait until that time
comes, we are asking for contributions now so the remainder of the Plunge
vital records can be translated. To be a qualified donor, a minimum
contribution of $100 is required. This entitles you to receive all of the
Plunge vital records that have been translated as well as all those
translated in the future.

It does not automatically make you a member of LitvakSIG. A contribution
of $36 for annual dues is required for that.

To donate, go to www.litvaksig.org and click on join/contribute. Be sure

and designate your contribution is for Plunge vital records and for
LitvakSIG dues if you decide to also do that. Feel free to use your credit
t card as the site is secure.

Aaron Roetenbeg
Coordinator - Kaunas Gubernia VRT

Howard Margol
LitvakSIG Coordinator for Records Acquisition


Lithuania SIG #Lithuania Plunge vital records #lithuania

Howard Margol
 

The following Plunge death and divorce records have just been translated
and are in the process of being sent to qualified donors to the Plunge
Vital Records Project.

Plunge deaths 1842, 1844, 1854-1861 - 484 records.
Plunge divorces 1839-1856 - 24 records.

Work will start on May 17 to translate another 1,500 Plunge death
records. After that is completed, no additional funds will be available
to translate more Plunge vital records. Rather than wait until that time
comes, we are asking for contributions now so the remainder of the Plunge
vital records can be translated. To be a qualified donor, a minimum
contribution of $100 is required. This entitles you to receive all of the
Plunge vital records that have been translated as well as all those
translated in the future.

It does not automatically make you a member of LitvakSIG. A contribution
of $36 for annual dues is required for that.

To donate, go to www.litvaksig.org and click on join/contribute. Be sure

and designate your contribution is for Plunge vital records and for
LitvakSIG dues if you decide to also do that. Feel free to use your credit
t card as the site is secure.

Aaron Roetenbeg
Coordinator - Kaunas Gubernia VRT

Howard Margol
LitvakSIG Coordinator for Records Acquisition


Moses Montefiore #romania

navy7seas@...
 

A recent biography by Abigail Green titled "Moses Montefiore, Jewish
Liberator, Imperial Hero" has an interesting description of the plight
of Jews in Romania during the 1860's. Anyone with a historical bent
might find the chapter " Crisis in Romania" of interest.
Jonathan Schwartz.
researching SCHWARTZ in Focsani, Birlad, and Iasi.
MODERATOR NOTE: Please always sign with your location. This is allowed as a
one-time commercial mention.


Romania SIG #Romania Moses Montefiore #romania

navy7seas@...
 

A recent biography by Abigail Green titled "Moses Montefiore, Jewish
Liberator, Imperial Hero" has an interesting description of the plight
of Jews in Romania during the 1860's. Anyone with a historical bent
might find the chapter " Crisis in Romania" of interest.
Jonathan Schwartz.
researching SCHWARTZ in Focsani, Birlad, and Iasi.
MODERATOR NOTE: Please always sign with your location. This is allowed as a
one-time commercial mention.


Sixty-seven years since Skalat #ukraine

Israel P
 

The annual memorial meeting for Skalat will take place Thursday at five
in the afternoon, at the Skalat monument in the Holon cemetery, near Tel-
Aviv.

For those of you abroad this is the second day of Shavuot and many of you
will be saying Yizkor at the same time as our memorial meeting. If you
have Skalat connections, you might want to keep them in mind at that
time.

Israel Pickholtz
Jerusalem


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Sixty-seven years since Skalat #ukraine

Israel P
 

The annual memorial meeting for Skalat will take place Thursday at five
in the afternoon, at the Skalat monument in the Holon cemetery, near Tel-
Aviv.

For those of you abroad this is the second day of Shavuot and many of you
will be saying Yizkor at the same time as our memorial meeting. If you
have Skalat connections, you might want to keep them in mind at that
time.

Israel Pickholtz
Jerusalem


Asylum records and untraceable death records. #unitedkingdom

jessica@...
 

Dear all,

In recent weeks I had a number of very helpful messages >from members who
were trying to help me trace my great grandmother, Frances David, who's
incarceration in mental hospital in the 1950s had been hidden >from my
grandmother (her daughter) and my father until her death in the late 1970s.
Having taken up the suggestion to search for her death outside the area that
she was known to live in, I discovered to my amazement that there were only
three Fanny Davids to have died in England between 1967 - 1987, and so with
a bit of a hunch, I ordered the death certificate of the one I found to have
died in 1977 in Surrey.

You may remember that my mother received a phone call around 1979 - 1980
(when my sister was still a baby and I would have been about 4 or 5 years
old) >from my father's cousin, to tell him that his grandmother had died? My
mother (like my father and his mother) believed that Granny David had died
in the 50s since this is what the rest of my father's family had told her,
Grandma and Dad. So this phone call was a bit of a shock to say the least.
The reason why it was possible to cover up what had happened to Granny David
was because my father and his parents were living in Berlin and Sofia during
the war - so they weren't around and weren't involved in the decision to
have her committed to an asylum. It seems that the decision was taken to
keep it all quiet to save my grandmother and father >from the distress that
this decision would probably cause.

As it turns out, I ordered the right certificate: Granny David had died two
years before my sister's birth, and her death was registered by someone
outside the family. She died in Horton Hospital, which was part of a well
known asylum in Epsom and part of a larger group of hospitals serving the
local area at the time. It seems that the family only found out two or
three years after she died.

I am now in the process of tracing her hospital records to find out what
happened to her and where she lived in the intervening years, and I also
hope to find her grave since the burial records for Horton are kept by the
Surrey History Centre.

This is a sad chapter in my family history: but not uncommon for the times.
I suppose the most upsetting thing is that it seems her children and
grandchildren didn't know she had died until nearly three years after she
was either buried or cremated.

Like many of us, I find myself knowing yet again that a person is only truly
dead when we stop talking of them and remembering their life, culture and
experiences - however traumatic these may or may not might be. I hope to
restore the truth and memory of my great grandmother for this reason: after
all - were it not for her, I wouldn't be around!

Thank you to everyone who helped - I will keep you updated on the process I
go through to trace records since this sort of search is more difficult and
could prove helpful to anyone else going down a similar path.

Best wishes,

Jessie Leschnikoff - Brenchley, Kent

Researching: PELLETIER - Loire, Versaille & Carcassonne (France), DAVID -
Paris, Saint Martin de Brethencourt (France), WALSH - Ireland, PRENDERGHAST
- Ireland, LESCHNIKOFF - Sofia & Haskovo (Bulgaria), BARNETT - Plymouth,
Bristol, Birmingham & Prussia, SOLOMONS - Prussia & London, PULVERMACHER -
Breslau, MASON - Orkney & Penang, CHILL - Mayanmar & Penang, BLAUSTEIN &
LANDAU - Tanopol UKRAINE.


JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Asylum records and untraceable death records. #unitedkingdom

jessica@...
 

Dear all,

In recent weeks I had a number of very helpful messages >from members who
were trying to help me trace my great grandmother, Frances David, who's
incarceration in mental hospital in the 1950s had been hidden >from my
grandmother (her daughter) and my father until her death in the late 1970s.
Having taken up the suggestion to search for her death outside the area that
she was known to live in, I discovered to my amazement that there were only
three Fanny Davids to have died in England between 1967 - 1987, and so with
a bit of a hunch, I ordered the death certificate of the one I found to have
died in 1977 in Surrey.

You may remember that my mother received a phone call around 1979 - 1980
(when my sister was still a baby and I would have been about 4 or 5 years
old) >from my father's cousin, to tell him that his grandmother had died? My
mother (like my father and his mother) believed that Granny David had died
in the 50s since this is what the rest of my father's family had told her,
Grandma and Dad. So this phone call was a bit of a shock to say the least.
The reason why it was possible to cover up what had happened to Granny David
was because my father and his parents were living in Berlin and Sofia during
the war - so they weren't around and weren't involved in the decision to
have her committed to an asylum. It seems that the decision was taken to
keep it all quiet to save my grandmother and father >from the distress that
this decision would probably cause.

As it turns out, I ordered the right certificate: Granny David had died two
years before my sister's birth, and her death was registered by someone
outside the family. She died in Horton Hospital, which was part of a well
known asylum in Epsom and part of a larger group of hospitals serving the
local area at the time. It seems that the family only found out two or
three years after she died.

I am now in the process of tracing her hospital records to find out what
happened to her and where she lived in the intervening years, and I also
hope to find her grave since the burial records for Horton are kept by the
Surrey History Centre.

This is a sad chapter in my family history: but not uncommon for the times.
I suppose the most upsetting thing is that it seems her children and
grandchildren didn't know she had died until nearly three years after she
was either buried or cremated.

Like many of us, I find myself knowing yet again that a person is only truly
dead when we stop talking of them and remembering their life, culture and
experiences - however traumatic these may or may not might be. I hope to
restore the truth and memory of my great grandmother for this reason: after
all - were it not for her, I wouldn't be around!

Thank you to everyone who helped - I will keep you updated on the process I
go through to trace records since this sort of search is more difficult and
could prove helpful to anyone else going down a similar path.

Best wishes,

Jessie Leschnikoff - Brenchley, Kent

Researching: PELLETIER - Loire, Versaille & Carcassonne (France), DAVID -
Paris, Saint Martin de Brethencourt (France), WALSH - Ireland, PRENDERGHAST
- Ireland, LESCHNIKOFF - Sofia & Haskovo (Bulgaria), BARNETT - Plymouth,
Bristol, Birmingham & Prussia, SOLOMONS - Prussia & London, PULVERMACHER -
Breslau, MASON - Orkney & Penang, CHILL - Mayanmar & Penang, BLAUSTEIN &
LANDAU - Tanopol UKRAINE.


Searching address for Malydetzna (Molodetchno) Archives #belarus

mickipot@...
 

I watch "Who Do You Think You Are" on NBC on 4 consecutive Fridays, and found
it interesting if not helpful, except for the Lisa Kudrow segment,.
My grandfather was born in Molodetchno Russia, now Belarus, and she
was shown visiting an archive in that city. I have thought I could
find information >from Vilna (until I was told that Molodetchno is not
in the Vilna "fold"....and thought to try a Belarus archive....but now...
this is perfect if...someone could advise what address (or how to
find the address of the Mlodetchno Archive. Please????? thank you
so very very much.

Maxine Braslow
New York

researching:

ZARETSKY/SARETSKY, AXELROD Molodetchn Belarus
SALTSBERG/ZALTSBERG Josvainaini Lithuania
KLEIN HEISLER Maramosa Sighet Romania
MERLING MALERSTEIN Keidan or Ukraine
POCHINKA LERNER Berdechiv Ukraine


Belarus SIG #Belarus Searching address for Malydetzna (Molodetchno) Archives #belarus

mickipot@...
 

I watch "Who Do You Think You Are" on NBC on 4 consecutive Fridays, and found
it interesting if not helpful, except for the Lisa Kudrow segment,.
My grandfather was born in Molodetchno Russia, now Belarus, and she
was shown visiting an archive in that city. I have thought I could
find information >from Vilna (until I was told that Molodetchno is not
in the Vilna "fold"....and thought to try a Belarus archive....but now...
this is perfect if...someone could advise what address (or how to
find the address of the Mlodetchno Archive. Please????? thank you
so very very much.

Maxine Braslow
New York

researching:

ZARETSKY/SARETSKY, AXELROD Molodetchn Belarus
SALTSBERG/ZALTSBERG Josvainaini Lithuania
KLEIN HEISLER Maramosa Sighet Romania
MERLING MALERSTEIN Keidan or Ukraine
POCHINKA LERNER Berdechiv Ukraine