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Re: Rochester NY Info Sought #general

Adam Stein <adam@...>
 

Here are a collection of Rochester genealogy related links I keep:

http://www.csh.rit.edu/~adam/bookmarks/Reference/Genealogy/Rochester___Monroe_County/
[or http://tinyurl.com/244h34w --Mod.]

On the 'GenWeb of Monroe County, NY' page are links to the mailing list
(MONROE-L). The Message Board is the same as the mailing list, just a
different interface (I believe). The thing to note about the mailing
list is that the libraries (at least some) of the Rochester library
system are subscribed and frequently answer questions. If you can't
find what you are looking for using my links, ask your question and I'm
sure somebody can give you more specific information (or I guess you can
just call the library directly).

On Sun, 2010-07-18 at 18:57 -0500, Peggy Morrow wrote:
When my great-grandmother Rachel Kornfeld Kramer died in Chicago on August 19,
1931 at age 76, her obituary listed a sister "Mrs. I. Davis of Rochester, N. Y."

Rachel was born in what is now Bardejov, Slovakia and what was Barfeld, Hungary.
Rachel lived in Rzeszow, Poland for awhile. Their father was either Leon
(Rachel's death certificate) or David Yehuda (Rachel's headstone) Kornfeld.

Does anyone know of this family or can provide Rochester NY resource suggestions
that my friend Google couldn't find?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Rochester NY Info Sought #general

Adam Stein <adam@...>
 

Here are a collection of Rochester genealogy related links I keep:

http://www.csh.rit.edu/~adam/bookmarks/Reference/Genealogy/Rochester___Monroe_County/
[or http://tinyurl.com/244h34w --Mod.]

On the 'GenWeb of Monroe County, NY' page are links to the mailing list
(MONROE-L). The Message Board is the same as the mailing list, just a
different interface (I believe). The thing to note about the mailing
list is that the libraries (at least some) of the Rochester library
system are subscribed and frequently answer questions. If you can't
find what you are looking for using my links, ask your question and I'm
sure somebody can give you more specific information (or I guess you can
just call the library directly).

On Sun, 2010-07-18 at 18:57 -0500, Peggy Morrow wrote:
When my great-grandmother Rachel Kornfeld Kramer died in Chicago on August 19,
1931 at age 76, her obituary listed a sister "Mrs. I. Davis of Rochester, N. Y."

Rachel was born in what is now Bardejov, Slovakia and what was Barfeld, Hungary.
Rachel lived in Rzeszow, Poland for awhile. Their father was either Leon
(Rachel's death certificate) or David Yehuda (Rachel's headstone) Kornfeld.

Does anyone know of this family or can provide Rochester NY resource suggestions
that my friend Google couldn't find?


LA Times Article: French Jews Want Their Old Names Back #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

An article in the July 18, 2010 Los Angeles Times related how many of post
holocaust-era Jews and Tunisian Jews that immigrated to France changed their
surnames to sound more French and today their descendants want to change
their names back to their original sur names to reflect family origins.
French Civil Code states family names can't be reverted once changed to
French sounding names. To read more about this see:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-france-jews-20100718,0,307074.story
[or http://tinyurl.com/2wfj79e --Mod.]

Jan Meisels Allen
IAJGS Director-at-large and
Chairperson, Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen LA Times Article: French Jews Want Their Old Names Back #general

Jan Meisels Allen
 

An article in the July 18, 2010 Los Angeles Times related how many of post
holocaust-era Jews and Tunisian Jews that immigrated to France changed their
surnames to sound more French and today their descendants want to change
their names back to their original sur names to reflect family origins.
French Civil Code states family names can't be reverted once changed to
French sounding names. To read more about this see:
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/world/la-fg-france-jews-20100718,0,307074.story
[or http://tinyurl.com/2wfj79e --Mod.]

Jan Meisels Allen
IAJGS Director-at-large and
Chairperson, Public Records Access Monitoring Committee


Lithuanian Translation help-Viewmate #latvia

ms nodrog
 

Dear Latvian Genners,
I am hoping that there is someone who can read and translate some
small Lithuanian items. These are small snipets >from my Aunt's 1949
Internal Passports. I have been able to translate a lot of the print
and script using a Lithuanian -> English on-line translator but the
script is a little more difficult to do.

I have posted the following items to Viewmate:

Family Situation:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=16037

Passport Information:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=16038

Nationality:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=16039

Nationality:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=16040

A response on Viewmate or directly to msnodrog@yahoo.com

Your help will be greatly appreciated.

Thank yo in advance,
Hope L. M. Gordon


Wife of Kalman Klonimus SHAPIRA #rabbinic

Debbie Lifshitz
 

Does anyone know where the wife of the Piaseczna Rov was buried? As
far as I know, she passed away in 1938 before the war.
Many thanks for your help,
Tzom Kal -- umetzapim li'yshu'a!
Debbie Lifschitz
Jerusalem


Latvia SIG #Latvia Lithuanian Translation help-Viewmate #latvia

ms nodrog
 

Dear Latvian Genners,
I am hoping that there is someone who can read and translate some
small Lithuanian items. These are small snipets >from my Aunt's 1949
Internal Passports. I have been able to translate a lot of the print
and script using a Lithuanian -> English on-line translator but the
script is a little more difficult to do.

I have posted the following items to Viewmate:

Family Situation:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=16037

Passport Information:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=16038

Nationality:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=16039

Nationality:
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=16040

A response on Viewmate or directly to msnodrog@yahoo.com

Your help will be greatly appreciated.

Thank yo in advance,
Hope L. M. Gordon


Rabbinic Genealogy SIG #Rabbinic Wife of Kalman Klonimus SHAPIRA #rabbinic

Debbie Lifshitz
 

Does anyone know where the wife of the Piaseczna Rov was buried? As
far as I know, she passed away in 1938 before the war.
Many thanks for your help,
Tzom Kal -- umetzapim li'yshu'a!
Debbie Lifschitz
Jerusalem


Digitized Latvian Newspapers #latvia

Marion Werle <werle@...>
 

To take Bruce's posting farther (I have used this website before), once you
display the article, there are tabs across the top (Download PDF, Print,
etc.). If you select "Text View", you can copy and paste it into Google
translator and get an approximation of what the article is about.

Marion Werle
North Hills, CA

From: Bruce Dumes <brucedumes@dumes.net>
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 17:02:48 -0700

Sorry if this is old news, but it is new news to me. The national
digital library of Latvia has searchable digitized versions of a number
of historical Latvian newspapers online. Most are in Latvian, 1 or 2
are in Russian.

http://www.periodicals.lv

The search tool works pretty well, and wisely ignores grammatical
endings, so a search may be successful even if you haven't used the
exact spelling of the word. Of course, whenever you are searching
text which has a digital image as the source, you can expect plenty
of errors. But it's a start!


Latvia SIG #Latvia Digitized Latvian Newspapers #latvia

Marion Werle <werle@...>
 

To take Bruce's posting farther (I have used this website before), once you
display the article, there are tabs across the top (Download PDF, Print,
etc.). If you select "Text View", you can copy and paste it into Google
translator and get an approximation of what the article is about.

Marion Werle
North Hills, CA

From: Bruce Dumes <brucedumes@dumes.net>
Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 17:02:48 -0700

Sorry if this is old news, but it is new news to me. The national
digital library of Latvia has searchable digitized versions of a number
of historical Latvian newspapers online. Most are in Latvian, 1 or 2
are in Russian.

http://www.periodicals.lv

The search tool works pretty well, and wisely ignores grammatical
endings, so a search may be successful even if you haven't used the
exact spelling of the word. Of course, whenever you are searching
text which has a digital image as the source, you can expect plenty
of errors. But it's a start!


Family Finder - The Big Picture? #dna

Martin Davis (com)
 

I received below a helpful clarification >from Max Blankfeld at FTDNA which I
am sure others would wish to see.

Martin

Martin Davis - London (UK)

---
From: Max - Family Tree DNA [mailto:max@familytreedna.com]

Martin, this is what I sent to Steven Bloom, who had similar questions. You
are welcome to post it to the list:

Here are the main problems that Jews have in trying to identify common
ancestors - as you certainly know?
a) lack of a common surname prior to late 1700?s early 1800?s
b) inbreeding population
c) many unrelated lines adopting same surnames
d) many related lines adopting different surnames
e) many surnames being adapted to the land where descendants moved in

To put it in simple terms it makes the work for us, Jews, a little more
complicated as we cannot trace people as easily as the others would be able
to. Our trees in general are much shorter. It's harder for us to focus on a
certain path/line. To do that we need more people to be tested, and combine
more with Y, mtDNA and X to help identify lines given the combined results
from all tests.
So, in terms of a Family Finder result, a 3rd cousin match, given the
inbreeding, may show a total value of centimorgans composed >from the
combination of different lines due to that inbreeding, and thus, what the
algorithm guesses to be a 3rd cousin, may in fact be a more distant cousin.
Example: I had a case of a person that matched with my nephew (my brother?s
son) as a 2nd cousin, and with me as a 4th cousin. If we were talking about
matching with just one line, he should be 3rd, and I 4th. But because he may
be adding blocks of DNA >from his maternal line (unrelated to me) to the
relationship with that person, those blocks, adding up to the my main block
with him, elevates by one generation his matching to that person.
I hope this was not too confusing.
Therefore, the names that don't make sense to you are there as a match
because of inbreeding, which makes them look more closely related than they
really are, and therefore unknown to us.
Another example >from my own matches related to change of names: I have one
match predicted as 4th cousin with the last name Rubio - typical Hispanic
name (I also had the first and middle Hispanic names). My first reaction was,
what is this name doing there?? Well, I checked his record and there's a
note there: his ancestral name was Rubizewsky? well, I checked JewishGen and
I saw 2 records >from a very small town in Belarus with the name Pinsk. And
guess where my mother is from? Yes, you guessed it right: Pinsk!
So, this is a most probable case of inbreeding, combined with a change,
generations later, to a Hispanic name.
In short, while you should not dismiss those "make no sense matches", you
should certainly weight in all the factors I mentioned above.
As we gather more Jewish samples we will be able to adjust the algorithm to
reflect all those factors.
In the meantime, I can tell you that we've already had several success
stories coming out of the Family Finder test.

E-mail me anytime!

Max Blankfeld
Vice-President, Operations and Marketing
http://www.FamilyTreeDNA.com


DNA Research #DNA Family Finder - The Big Picture? #dna

Martin Davis (com)
 

I received below a helpful clarification >from Max Blankfeld at FTDNA which I
am sure others would wish to see.

Martin

Martin Davis - London (UK)

---
From: Max - Family Tree DNA [mailto:max@familytreedna.com]

Martin, this is what I sent to Steven Bloom, who had similar questions. You
are welcome to post it to the list:

Here are the main problems that Jews have in trying to identify common
ancestors - as you certainly know?
a) lack of a common surname prior to late 1700?s early 1800?s
b) inbreeding population
c) many unrelated lines adopting same surnames
d) many related lines adopting different surnames
e) many surnames being adapted to the land where descendants moved in

To put it in simple terms it makes the work for us, Jews, a little more
complicated as we cannot trace people as easily as the others would be able
to. Our trees in general are much shorter. It's harder for us to focus on a
certain path/line. To do that we need more people to be tested, and combine
more with Y, mtDNA and X to help identify lines given the combined results
from all tests.
So, in terms of a Family Finder result, a 3rd cousin match, given the
inbreeding, may show a total value of centimorgans composed >from the
combination of different lines due to that inbreeding, and thus, what the
algorithm guesses to be a 3rd cousin, may in fact be a more distant cousin.
Example: I had a case of a person that matched with my nephew (my brother?s
son) as a 2nd cousin, and with me as a 4th cousin. If we were talking about
matching with just one line, he should be 3rd, and I 4th. But because he may
be adding blocks of DNA >from his maternal line (unrelated to me) to the
relationship with that person, those blocks, adding up to the my main block
with him, elevates by one generation his matching to that person.
I hope this was not too confusing.
Therefore, the names that don't make sense to you are there as a match
because of inbreeding, which makes them look more closely related than they
really are, and therefore unknown to us.
Another example >from my own matches related to change of names: I have one
match predicted as 4th cousin with the last name Rubio - typical Hispanic
name (I also had the first and middle Hispanic names). My first reaction was,
what is this name doing there?? Well, I checked his record and there's a
note there: his ancestral name was Rubizewsky? well, I checked JewishGen and
I saw 2 records >from a very small town in Belarus with the name Pinsk. And
guess where my mother is from? Yes, you guessed it right: Pinsk!
So, this is a most probable case of inbreeding, combined with a change,
generations later, to a Hispanic name.
In short, while you should not dismiss those "make no sense matches", you
should certainly weight in all the factors I mentioned above.
As we gather more Jewish samples we will be able to adjust the algorithm to
reflect all those factors.
In the meantime, I can tell you that we've already had several success
stories coming out of the Family Finder test.

E-mail me anytime!

Max Blankfeld
Vice-President, Operations and Marketing
http://www.FamilyTreeDNA.com


Palenesky #general

Cassio Tolpolar <tolpolar@...>
 

When researching for passengers of the ship Konig Friedrich August that left
Hamburg in 1912 to the final destination of Buenos Aires, I found a possible
relative who was born in the town of "Palenesky", supposedly in Russia/former
Soviet Union. I did an initial google search and nothing came out. I tried
different spellings, but nothing too relevant came out either. Has anybody heard
of this place, or a place with a similar name? Any suggestions?

Thank you,
Cassio Tolpolar
www.moldovaimpressions.blogspot.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Palenesky #general

Cassio Tolpolar <tolpolar@...>
 

When researching for passengers of the ship Konig Friedrich August that left
Hamburg in 1912 to the final destination of Buenos Aires, I found a possible
relative who was born in the town of "Palenesky", supposedly in Russia/former
Soviet Union. I did an initial google search and nothing came out. I tried
different spellings, but nothing too relevant came out either. Has anybody heard
of this place, or a place with a similar name? Any suggestions?

Thank you,
Cassio Tolpolar
www.moldovaimpressions.blogspot.com


More Kudos #ukraine

Bronkesh
 

As a first time conference attendee, I was overwhelmed by the extent of the programming and the knowledge of the those in attendance. I knew I was a novice, but the conference reinforced how much there is to learn. Thank you to all who were involved in the programming, hospitality and organization. I look forward to many future conferences! My mother, a Holocaust survivor, attended with me and thoroughly enjoyed herself. She was kept busy translating >from Polish, Russian and Yiddish for people. If you scan and send me what you need translated (as long as it isn't a long or complicated document), she will be happy to do more translations.



Sheryl Bronkesh
Scottsdale, AZ
sbronkesh@gmail.com
Check out my family's Website
www.beforeamerica.com


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine More Kudos #ukraine

Bronkesh
 

As a first time conference attendee, I was overwhelmed by the extent of the programming and the knowledge of the those in attendance. I knew I was a novice, but the conference reinforced how much there is to learn. Thank you to all who were involved in the programming, hospitality and organization. I look forward to many future conferences! My mother, a Holocaust survivor, attended with me and thoroughly enjoyed herself. She was kept busy translating >from Polish, Russian and Yiddish for people. If you scan and send me what you need translated (as long as it isn't a long or complicated document), she will be happy to do more translations.



Sheryl Bronkesh
Scottsdale, AZ
sbronkesh@gmail.com
Check out my family's Website
www.beforeamerica.com


Records from AGAD archives (Fond 300) #ukraine

Israel P
 

I have begun preparing a list of records that I plan to order >from the
AGAD archives. That order should be ready to go out end of next week.

If you wish to join this order please contact me, after making sure that
the records you want appear in JRI-Poland in the AGAD archives, fond 300.

Israel Pickholtz
Jerusalem


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Records from AGAD archives (Fond 300) #ukraine

Israel P
 

I have begun preparing a list of records that I plan to order >from the
AGAD archives. That order should be ready to go out end of next week.

If you wish to join this order please contact me, after making sure that
the records you want appear in JRI-Poland in the AGAD archives, fond 300.

Israel Pickholtz
Jerusalem


Re: Concentration Camp Victim Research- Beginner Questions for Experienced Researchers #general

Gershon Markowitz <gershontikunim@...>
 

There are records with these names at http://www.yadvashem.org/ Go to the
database of victims names, advanced search. Enter the town name and family
name.

Gershon Markowitz

Larry Ward wrote:

In the course of genealogy research on my own (non-Jewish) and my wife's(Jewish)
families, I came across a family record of a family of 7 who all died in
"concentration camp"... I have their names, but besides that, nothing else.
They are Moshe and Taube (Friedlander) Gottesman, and children Lola, Gustav,
Isidore, Rosa, and Bertha...
Where does one find documentation >from camps that can be researched? Any advice,
links, recommendations would be most welcome. Thankyou!


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Concentration Camp Victim Research- Beginner Questions for Experienced Researchers #general

Gershon Markowitz <gershontikunim@...>
 

There are records with these names at http://www.yadvashem.org/ Go to the
database of victims names, advanced search. Enter the town name and family
name.

Gershon Markowitz

Larry Ward wrote:

In the course of genealogy research on my own (non-Jewish) and my wife's(Jewish)
families, I came across a family record of a family of 7 who all died in
"concentration camp"... I have their names, but besides that, nothing else.
They are Moshe and Taube (Friedlander) Gottesman, and children Lola, Gustav,
Isidore, Rosa, and Bertha...
Where does one find documentation >from camps that can be researched? Any advice,
links, recommendations would be most welcome. Thankyou!