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Subject: prisoners in russia #hungary

czkiand@...
 

Dear Tom,

You are right: Stalino is today Donetsk city in the Donbas (Donetsk)
basin. The nr. 280. POW and labor camp was near the city. I found some
data about it:

http://membres.multimania.fr/dgrecu/Deport_USSR.html

http://narr.hu/elhurcoltak.htm

This is a very interesting site about the GULAG (unfortunately in
Russian): http://www.memo.ru/history/NKVD/GULAG/index.htm

The following databases will be useful :
http://www.hadifogoly.hu/web/hadifogoly/index

Hope I could help.

Regards,

Andras Gyekiczki

Erd, Hungary

-----Original Message-----
From: tom [mailto:tomk@ecologicaltech.com]
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 14:11
To: H-SIG
Subject: [h-sig] prisoners in russia

My late father was captured by the red army and put into a prisoner of war
camp, and didn't return home until 1947. i found one record with his name
in the jewishgen all-hungary database, >from after the war, which lists his
whereabouts in september 1946, as "280/26.
stalino-dombasz tabor"

"stalino-dombasz" could possibly be donetsk (renamed after stalin's death),
which did have a donbass palace hotel, used by the gestapo as their
headquarters under the german occupation. the only other geographic point
of reference that i have is that at some time he was in, or near, odessa.
1) does anybody know if "280/26" was forced labour unit or a camp or a
postal address? and is there any documentation whatsoever about it?

2) is there any list of prisoner of war camps in the soviet union,
particularly where jews >from the forced labour battalions might have been
held?


Hungary SIG #Hungary Subject: prisoners in russia #hungary

czkiand@...
 

Dear Tom,

You are right: Stalino is today Donetsk city in the Donbas (Donetsk)
basin. The nr. 280. POW and labor camp was near the city. I found some
data about it:

http://membres.multimania.fr/dgrecu/Deport_USSR.html

http://narr.hu/elhurcoltak.htm

This is a very interesting site about the GULAG (unfortunately in
Russian): http://www.memo.ru/history/NKVD/GULAG/index.htm

The following databases will be useful :
http://www.hadifogoly.hu/web/hadifogoly/index

Hope I could help.

Regards,

Andras Gyekiczki

Erd, Hungary

-----Original Message-----
From: tom [mailto:tomk@ecologicaltech.com]
Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 14:11
To: H-SIG
Subject: [h-sig] prisoners in russia

My late father was captured by the red army and put into a prisoner of war
camp, and didn't return home until 1947. i found one record with his name
in the jewishgen all-hungary database, >from after the war, which lists his
whereabouts in september 1946, as "280/26.
stalino-dombasz tabor"

"stalino-dombasz" could possibly be donetsk (renamed after stalin's death),
which did have a donbass palace hotel, used by the gestapo as their
headquarters under the german occupation. the only other geographic point
of reference that i have is that at some time he was in, or near, odessa.
1) does anybody know if "280/26" was forced labour unit or a camp or a
postal address? and is there any documentation whatsoever about it?

2) is there any list of prisoner of war camps in the soviet union,
particularly where jews >from the forced labour battalions might have been
held?


Sechzer and Ackerman #ukraine

sechzer_arch@...
 

I am searching for family information regarding the names Sechzer and Ackerman
I think the Sechzer family was >from Kapigorod, near Odessa. Could be Zechtser or Zechzer. Looking for family or history of Selig (Zelig) Sechzer. He emigrated to America in the early 1900s.

I think the Ackerman family was >from Ajanovitz or Arzanovitz (??) also near Odessa. I am especially looking for family related to Hinda Ackerman. Ackerman was her family name. I do not know what her married name was. She was assumed to have died in the Holocaust / World War II but we are wondering if any of her family survived. She had 4 sisters who went to America at the turn of the last century, one of whom was my grandmother, Faina or Faigie, or Fanny as she was called in America.

Does anyone know how I can begin this search - I suppose first I need to find and identify the towns, then find archives...Any advice?

Inda

Moderator's Note: If you are just starting out you might want to read the JewishGen FAQ's at http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/faq.html.
Do your research on your family that came to the U.S., look for naturalization papers, census records, etc. These will provide clues on where the family came from.

________________________________

Inda M. Sechzer, Assoc. AIA, LEED AP
E: sechzer_arch@yahoo.com
T: 973-704-6896 cell tel


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Sechzer and Ackerman #ukraine

sechzer_arch@...
 

I am searching for family information regarding the names Sechzer and Ackerman
I think the Sechzer family was >from Kapigorod, near Odessa. Could be Zechtser or Zechzer. Looking for family or history of Selig (Zelig) Sechzer. He emigrated to America in the early 1900s.

I think the Ackerman family was >from Ajanovitz or Arzanovitz (??) also near Odessa. I am especially looking for family related to Hinda Ackerman. Ackerman was her family name. I do not know what her married name was. She was assumed to have died in the Holocaust / World War II but we are wondering if any of her family survived. She had 4 sisters who went to America at the turn of the last century, one of whom was my grandmother, Faina or Faigie, or Fanny as she was called in America.

Does anyone know how I can begin this search - I suppose first I need to find and identify the towns, then find archives...Any advice?

Inda

Moderator's Note: If you are just starting out you might want to read the JewishGen FAQ's at http://www.jewishgen.org/InfoFiles/faq.html.
Do your research on your family that came to the U.S., look for naturalization papers, census records, etc. These will provide clues on where the family came from.

________________________________

Inda M. Sechzer, Assoc. AIA, LEED AP
E: sechzer_arch@yahoo.com
T: 973-704-6896 cell tel


Fw: traveling to Ukraine #ukraine

I Sechzer <sechzer_arch@...>
 

I am looking for information regarding traveling to Podvolachisk*** in the Ukraine. I am wondering if anyone has information about the town and guides/translators to go there with us or meet us there.
I would probably be traveling >from Prague by train.
Thank you


*** spelled many ways - also podwolocycyka and Podvolochisk

Inda Sechzer


________________________________

Inda M. Sechzer, Assoc. AIA, LEED AP
E: sechzer_arch@yahoo.com


Ukraine SIG #Ukraine Fw: traveling to Ukraine #ukraine

I Sechzer <sechzer_arch@...>
 

I am looking for information regarding traveling to Podvolachisk*** in the Ukraine. I am wondering if anyone has information about the town and guides/translators to go there with us or meet us there.
I would probably be traveling >from Prague by train.
Thank you


*** spelled many ways - also podwolocycyka and Podvolochisk

Inda Sechzer


________________________________

Inda M. Sechzer, Assoc. AIA, LEED AP
E: sechzer_arch@yahoo.com


Schools in Belarus, more general question #belarus

Martha Forsyth
 

OK, Walter Rosen's recent post gave me an idea.

My grandfather (Abraham Schecter, spelled however you like), born as far
as we know in/near Gomel, was said to have been "studying to be a Rabbi"
- this would have been probably about 1895 and later. The 1940 Census
record (in the US, where he arrived in 1905 and I'm sure he did no more
studying after that, being busy supporting a family) says his "highest
grade of school completed" was C1 - i.e., 1 year of college? (The
informant was his wife.)

First of all, I'm not sure what "studying to be a Rabbi" might have
meant - whether it was specific (and would have him at a specific
school), or might have been much more general, "studying Torah". So my
question is dual:

a) What do you think that might have implied?
b) If a specific institution, do we know what the possibilities were, at
that time?

(The rest of the family legend is that he "gave up religion for
Revolution": i.e., in the words of my cousin,"when the pogroms got bad,
and the labor movement got strong, he left the books and got involved,
and gave water to Lenin >from a bucket...and later [sometime early in
1905] had to flee." I have wondered if he might have been part of the
"self-defense group" that I've read about, that formed in Gomel in
1903? Again, I don't know how to find out more about that group.)

Any suggestions welcome....
Martha Schecter Forsyth
Newton, MA


Belarus SIG #Belarus Schools in Belarus, more general question #belarus

Martha Forsyth
 

OK, Walter Rosen's recent post gave me an idea.

My grandfather (Abraham Schecter, spelled however you like), born as far
as we know in/near Gomel, was said to have been "studying to be a Rabbi"
- this would have been probably about 1895 and later. The 1940 Census
record (in the US, where he arrived in 1905 and I'm sure he did no more
studying after that, being busy supporting a family) says his "highest
grade of school completed" was C1 - i.e., 1 year of college? (The
informant was his wife.)

First of all, I'm not sure what "studying to be a Rabbi" might have
meant - whether it was specific (and would have him at a specific
school), or might have been much more general, "studying Torah". So my
question is dual:

a) What do you think that might have implied?
b) If a specific institution, do we know what the possibilities were, at
that time?

(The rest of the family legend is that he "gave up religion for
Revolution": i.e., in the words of my cousin,"when the pogroms got bad,
and the labor movement got strong, he left the books and got involved,
and gave water to Lenin >from a bucket...and later [sometime early in
1905] had to flee." I have wondered if he might have been part of the
"self-defense group" that I've read about, that formed in Gomel in
1903? Again, I don't know how to find out more about that group.)

Any suggestions welcome....
Martha Schecter Forsyth
Newton, MA


BRUNOV = FRUMOV?? #belarus

Elaine Bush <erbush@...>
 

What is the possiblity that a transliteration of BRUNOV was actually
FRUMOV? Asking those who have a better knowledge of handwriting than
I

My next question-- is it possible to see the original handwriting?
Copies of the transliteration?

This is >from the 1816 Revision List for Logishin, Pinsk, Minsk.

My FRUMOV family was >from the area.

Elaine Bush
Pleasant Hill, CA
http://elainebush.tribalpages.com


Belarus SIG #Belarus BRUNOV = FRUMOV?? #belarus

Elaine Bush <erbush@...>
 

What is the possiblity that a transliteration of BRUNOV was actually
FRUMOV? Asking those who have a better knowledge of handwriting than
I

My next question-- is it possible to see the original handwriting?
Copies of the transliteration?

This is >from the 1816 Revision List for Logishin, Pinsk, Minsk.

My FRUMOV family was >from the area.

Elaine Bush
Pleasant Hill, CA
http://elainebush.tribalpages.com


Re: curious about paternal heritage #general

Lily Kohn <fergiecat@...>
 

Steve's idea of securing his birth certificate is a good one, so may I
just add to look for his death certificate as well. Depending on how
much the informant knew, it may contain some useful information.
Sometimes the cemetery and mortuary has some information on file as well.
Lily Kohn
Researching NAPADENSKY DOMOWICZ BOGACHICK to name a few


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: curious about paternal heritage #general

Lily Kohn <fergiecat@...>
 

Steve's idea of securing his birth certificate is a good one, so may I
just add to look for his death certificate as well. Depending on how
much the informant knew, it may contain some useful information.
Sometimes the cemetery and mortuary has some information on file as well.
Lily Kohn
Researching NAPADENSKY DOMOWICZ BOGACHICK to name a few


Re: Missing record of birth Canada #general

Bruce Katkin <bkatkin@...>
 

If the birth was registered, it can be found free of charge at
the Ontario Archives located at York University, Toronto

Bruce Katkin


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen RE: Missing record of birth Canada #general

Bruce Katkin <bkatkin@...>
 

If the birth was registered, it can be found free of charge at
the Ontario Archives located at York University, Toronto

Bruce Katkin


Romania, Poland, Moscow, Rostov-On-Don, USSR, etc. #general

Marilyn Robinson
 

Hi All,
Recently, on my new blog at: http://yourjewishgem.blogspot.com
("Jewish Gem's Genealogy: Mining For Your Elusive Ancestors"), I
posted about the following topics which may be of interest to you.
Be sure to go to the very bottom of your computer screen and click
on "Older Posts" to go back to earlier postings:

Rostov-On-Don--"Jews in the Cavalry", "Donors Lists"

"Jews of Trans-Baikal

"1925 List of USSR Medical Doctors: Female Doctors"

Romania: 1925 Yearbook of Greater Romania

Poland: "Marriage Index", 1854 Index of Warsaw Suburbs Residents",
"Temples/Synagogues: Clergy, Committees, etc.", "Murdered in
Miednoje/Buried in Kolobrzeg", "2001Warsaw: List of Names >from the
Jewish Community", "1939-1945--Trzebina, Poland: Holocaust Victims",
"1918-1920 Poland: Army Losses--Lists of Names", "Jews of Lviv",
"1939-45 Chrzanow: List of Jewish Holocaust Victims", 1940 Kharkov:
Murder of Jewish Polish Officers", Pogroms: "1919, Kharkov Jewish
Community---Accounts of Executions by Vsyur Units", "Kharkov Jewish
Community Testimonies: Victims of Violence"

"Old Photos, Postcards, and Images of Jewish Communities and Families"

"Moldava and the Jews"

Bessarabia: "1901 Bessarabia Address Calendar (2), "A Slide Show
(Dumrava, Soroki, Zguritsy)"

"Tula: List of Jewish Pharmacists"

Yelets: "1911-17 Education", "1907-1914, Membership in the Poor Jews
Benefit Society", "1888-1917: Yelets Medical Society", "Merchants"

Siege of Leningrad: "Child Evacuees", "Child Evacuees and School
Employees"

Ukraine: Malyn--"Shcherbov Yar--Jews Murdered by Nazis", 1913 All
Ekaterinoslav: "Veterinarians", "Midwives, Masseuses", "Dental List",
"Jewish Medical Doctors", "1919 Pogrom: Novograd-Volyn (Stone Ford)",
"1888 Glukov: Jewish Family List", "1871-1895: Mariinsky Girls High
School"

Volozhin Yeshiv (1879): "Student Lists (#1), "Volozhin Yeshiva/Etz
Chaim Yeshiva (#2)"

Belarus: "Bielski guerillas", "1904 Lumber Traders who Purchased in
Minsk", "Jewish Generals/Admirals"

Other lists include information on Latvia, South Russia Jews,
Sevastopol, Moscow Jews, Yugoslav Jews, etc.

Marilyn Robinson (aka "Jewish Gem")
yourjewishgem.blogspot.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Romania, Poland, Moscow, Rostov-On-Don, USSR, etc. #general

Marilyn Robinson
 

Hi All,
Recently, on my new blog at: http://yourjewishgem.blogspot.com
("Jewish Gem's Genealogy: Mining For Your Elusive Ancestors"), I
posted about the following topics which may be of interest to you.
Be sure to go to the very bottom of your computer screen and click
on "Older Posts" to go back to earlier postings:

Rostov-On-Don--"Jews in the Cavalry", "Donors Lists"

"Jews of Trans-Baikal

"1925 List of USSR Medical Doctors: Female Doctors"

Romania: 1925 Yearbook of Greater Romania

Poland: "Marriage Index", 1854 Index of Warsaw Suburbs Residents",
"Temples/Synagogues: Clergy, Committees, etc.", "Murdered in
Miednoje/Buried in Kolobrzeg", "2001Warsaw: List of Names >from the
Jewish Community", "1939-1945--Trzebina, Poland: Holocaust Victims",
"1918-1920 Poland: Army Losses--Lists of Names", "Jews of Lviv",
"1939-45 Chrzanow: List of Jewish Holocaust Victims", 1940 Kharkov:
Murder of Jewish Polish Officers", Pogroms: "1919, Kharkov Jewish
Community---Accounts of Executions by Vsyur Units", "Kharkov Jewish
Community Testimonies: Victims of Violence"

"Old Photos, Postcards, and Images of Jewish Communities and Families"

"Moldava and the Jews"

Bessarabia: "1901 Bessarabia Address Calendar (2), "A Slide Show
(Dumrava, Soroki, Zguritsy)"

"Tula: List of Jewish Pharmacists"

Yelets: "1911-17 Education", "1907-1914, Membership in the Poor Jews
Benefit Society", "1888-1917: Yelets Medical Society", "Merchants"

Siege of Leningrad: "Child Evacuees", "Child Evacuees and School
Employees"

Ukraine: Malyn--"Shcherbov Yar--Jews Murdered by Nazis", 1913 All
Ekaterinoslav: "Veterinarians", "Midwives, Masseuses", "Dental List",
"Jewish Medical Doctors", "1919 Pogrom: Novograd-Volyn (Stone Ford)",
"1888 Glukov: Jewish Family List", "1871-1895: Mariinsky Girls High
School"

Volozhin Yeshiv (1879): "Student Lists (#1), "Volozhin Yeshiva/Etz
Chaim Yeshiva (#2)"

Belarus: "Bielski guerillas", "1904 Lumber Traders who Purchased in
Minsk", "Jewish Generals/Admirals"

Other lists include information on Latvia, South Russia Jews,
Sevastopol, Moscow Jews, Yugoslav Jews, etc.

Marilyn Robinson (aka "Jewish Gem")
yourjewishgem.blogspot.com


Re: FELLUS #sephardic

Thierry Samama <thierry.samama@...>
 

Hi Maria,

FELLOUS is a well-established name among Tunisian Jews. Paul Sebag
writes (and I translate loosely): >from the Arabic fellûs, "little
chicken", children's nickname transformed into a family name. Found in
Tunis in the 1800s, kettubah of Isaac son of David Fellous, and Simha
daughter of Joseph Camio dated 22 september 1858 (registres
matrimoniaux de la communauté juive portugaise de Tunis n° 666).

Best regards,

Thierry Samama


Sephardic SIG #Sephardim Re: FELLUS #sephardic

Thierry Samama <thierry.samama@...>
 

Hi Maria,

FELLOUS is a well-established name among Tunisian Jews. Paul Sebag
writes (and I translate loosely): >from the Arabic fellûs, "little
chicken", children's nickname transformed into a family name. Found in
Tunis in the 1800s, kettubah of Isaac son of David Fellous, and Simha
daughter of Joseph Camio dated 22 september 1858 (registres
matrimoniaux de la communauté juive portugaise de Tunis n° 666).

Best regards,

Thierry Samama


Re: FELLUS #sephardic

Mathilde
 

Dear Maria,

You wrote:

My grandfather was born in Israel in the late 1880s but I'm not
certain if he was Israeli but, I'm certain that he was a sephardi.
There is also a trace of Ashkenazi. The family moved to Cyprus in the
1900s. Their
surname sounds like FELLUS or Fellas. Does anyone know the country of
origin? Any info would be greatfully appreciated.
---
A correction: if your grandfather was born in the 1880s in Palestine,
he couldn't be Israeli but Turk as the country was part of the Ottoman
Empire. Of course, he could be citizen of another country if his
parents had a foreign citizenship.

The surname FELLUS or FELLOUS was mainly found among Tunisian Jews.
Accordong to Paul Sebbag (Les Noms des Juifs de Tunisie. Paris,
L'Harmattan, 2002. <Names of Yinisia Jews>, Fellus/Fellous means:
"chick - an affective name use for My poppet".
The SephardicGen Databases found at:
http://www.sephardicgen.com/databases/databases.html
has 16 citations for FELLOUS, the French spelling of the name.

Shalom,
Mathilde Tagger
Jerusalem


Sephardic SIG #Sephardim Re: FELLUS #sephardic

Mathilde
 

Dear Maria,

You wrote:

My grandfather was born in Israel in the late 1880s but I'm not
certain if he was Israeli but, I'm certain that he was a sephardi.
There is also a trace of Ashkenazi. The family moved to Cyprus in the
1900s. Their
surname sounds like FELLUS or Fellas. Does anyone know the country of
origin? Any info would be greatfully appreciated.
---
A correction: if your grandfather was born in the 1880s in Palestine,
he couldn't be Israeli but Turk as the country was part of the Ottoman
Empire. Of course, he could be citizen of another country if his
parents had a foreign citizenship.

The surname FELLUS or FELLOUS was mainly found among Tunisian Jews.
Accordong to Paul Sebbag (Les Noms des Juifs de Tunisie. Paris,
L'Harmattan, 2002. <Names of Yinisia Jews>, Fellus/Fellous means:
"chick - an affective name use for My poppet".
The SephardicGen Databases found at:
http://www.sephardicgen.com/databases/databases.html
has 16 citations for FELLOUS, the French spelling of the name.

Shalom,
Mathilde Tagger
Jerusalem

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