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FW: Translation help needed (Novogroduk)
#belarus
Research coordinator <rescoord@...>
Dear Siggers
Belarus Sig has a project to translate all the microfilmed records for Novogroduk. We need Russian translators to help with the project. The places we still have to translate are For 1811 Tsyrin Korelichi Mir Snov Kroshin Polonechka Stolovich Novaya Mysh 1816: Tsyrin Korelichi Novaya Mysh Kroshin Polonechka Snov Stolovichi We are also looking for people to proof read the work that has already been done for the following places Polonechka 1811 Delyatichi 1811 1816 Polonka 1811 1816 Vselyub 1811 1816 Negnevichi 1811 1816 Tsirin 1811 1816 Please reply to me Ruth Silver if you can help (rescoord@...). Best wishes Ruth Silver Belarus SIG Research Coordinator =
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Belarus SIG #Belarus FW: Translation help needed (Novogroduk)
#belarus
Research coordinator <rescoord@...>
Dear Siggers
Belarus Sig has a project to translate all the microfilmed records for Novogroduk. We need Russian translators to help with the project. The places we still have to translate are For 1811 Tsyrin Korelichi Mir Snov Kroshin Polonechka Stolovich Novaya Mysh 1816: Tsyrin Korelichi Novaya Mysh Kroshin Polonechka Snov Stolovichi We are also looking for people to proof read the work that has already been done for the following places Polonechka 1811 Delyatichi 1811 1816 Polonka 1811 1816 Vselyub 1811 1816 Negnevichi 1811 1816 Tsirin 1811 1816 Please reply to me Ruth Silver if you can help (rescoord@...). Best wishes Ruth Silver Belarus SIG Research Coordinator =
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Translation help needed (Belarus)
#general
Research coordinator <rescoord@...>
Dear genners,
Belarus Sig has a project to translate all the microfilmed records for Novogroduk. We need Russian translators to help with the project. The places we still have to translate are For 1811, Tsyrin Korelichi Mir Snov Kroshin Polonechka Stolovich Novaya Mysh 1816: Tsyrin Korelichi Novaya Mysh Kroshin Polonechka Snov Stolovichi We are also looking for people to proof read the work that has already been done for the following places Polonechka 1811 Delyatichi 1811, 1816 Polonka 1811, 1816 Vselyub 1811, 1816 Negnevichi 1811, 1816 Tsirin 1811, 1816 Please reply to me Ruth Silver if you can help (rescoord@...). Best wishes Ruth Silver Belarus SIG Research Coordinator
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Translation help needed (Belarus)
#general
Research coordinator <rescoord@...>
Dear genners,
Belarus Sig has a project to translate all the microfilmed records for Novogroduk. We need Russian translators to help with the project. The places we still have to translate are For 1811, Tsyrin Korelichi Mir Snov Kroshin Polonechka Stolovich Novaya Mysh 1816: Tsyrin Korelichi Novaya Mysh Kroshin Polonechka Snov Stolovichi We are also looking for people to proof read the work that has already been done for the following places Polonechka 1811 Delyatichi 1811, 1816 Polonka 1811, 1816 Vselyub 1811, 1816 Negnevichi 1811, 1816 Tsirin 1811, 1816 Please reply to me Ruth Silver if you can help (rescoord@...). Best wishes Ruth Silver Belarus SIG Research Coordinator
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New Kherson town and gubernia KheilaLinks website is requesting information.
#ukraine
Charles WALOWITZ
We are in the process of creating a JewishGen KehilaLinks website for the town and gubernia of Kherson, Ukraine.
We would like people who have roots there to submit material for the website. You can submit photos of the town, photos of people born in the town, postcards,and family histories. Also very helpful would be a descriptive narrative mentioning all the generations, who married whom, what they did for a living, where they lived, their migration, documents you may have received >from Kherson, etc. We would be grateful if you will help us "populate" our new website with materials about our ancestral town. If you can help with this, or if you have any other ideas, please write to us directly at ruthw95@.... Charles and Sylvia Walowitz. Brooklyn, New York, USA. Waibsnaider, Perman, Kozodoy, Elimelekh, Minond, Liponevzky, Shurkhin, Ber, Gershman, Seltzer, Salzman, Grinker, Spiegel, Broder
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Ukraine SIG #Ukraine New Kherson town and gubernia KheilaLinks website is requesting information.
#ukraine
Charles WALOWITZ
We are in the process of creating a JewishGen KehilaLinks website for the town and gubernia of Kherson, Ukraine.
We would like people who have roots there to submit material for the website. You can submit photos of the town, photos of people born in the town, postcards,and family histories. Also very helpful would be a descriptive narrative mentioning all the generations, who married whom, what they did for a living, where they lived, their migration, documents you may have received >from Kherson, etc. We would be grateful if you will help us "populate" our new website with materials about our ancestral town. If you can help with this, or if you have any other ideas, please write to us directly at ruthw95@.... Charles and Sylvia Walowitz. Brooklyn, New York, USA. Waibsnaider, Perman, Kozodoy, Elimelekh, Minond, Liponevzky, Shurkhin, Ber, Gershman, Seltzer, Salzman, Grinker, Spiegel, Broder
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Re: Early London Insurance Policies
#unitedkingdom
louisemessik@...
The insurance companies were London-based, but the assets insured could be
anywhere in the UK. We have learned that Sun Insurance policies on provincial properties have the prefix CD ('country districts'), we can filter the policy numbers column to get a fix on them. 2673 out of 25670 entries, ie well over 10 per cent, relate to provincial policies. (And that's not even looking to see if any of the other insurers covered 'country districts' - they probably did.) Ref arsonists: many of the policies contained a Jews Clause. Please see George Rigal's explanation below. from 1813 some policies taken out by Jews had a special Jews clause, whichappeared more frequently as time went on. It appears as the words 'Jews Clause' at the end of the policy or it is given in full, being some variation of 'No goods paid for which are stolen or lost by removal at or in consequence of a fire or alarm of fire'. I do hope that this information is helpful. With thanks to Petra Laidlaw for providing the answers to Jill's posting. Louise Messik, London -----Original Message----- Subject: Early London Insurance Policies From: jill.whitehead@... Could the compilers of the George Rigal data indicate if this information literally only relates to families living in London? As London was the capital city, is it possible that families who lived in other UK cities could have taken out an insurance policy via a company based in London? If this is only London based, are there other sources of information for provincial insurance policies? In my case, I am interested in Edinburgh, Liverpool, Manchester, Southport, Hull, Grimsby, Sheffield, Middlesbrough, and Harrogate. I have a contact in Chicago who has discovered that his turn- of- the- 20th century ancestor was a Jewish arsonist in Boston who tried to make money from insurance policies. He had an article published in Avoytanu in 2013 onthis topic. This sounds more of an American than UK thing but I am informed that his family's research showed that some Jewish arsonists did operate in London at the time. Jill Whitehead, Sutton, Surrey
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JCR-UK SIG #UnitedKingdom Re: Early London Insurance Policies
#unitedkingdom
louisemessik@...
The insurance companies were London-based, but the assets insured could be
anywhere in the UK. We have learned that Sun Insurance policies on provincial properties have the prefix CD ('country districts'), we can filter the policy numbers column to get a fix on them. 2673 out of 25670 entries, ie well over 10 per cent, relate to provincial policies. (And that's not even looking to see if any of the other insurers covered 'country districts' - they probably did.) Ref arsonists: many of the policies contained a Jews Clause. Please see George Rigal's explanation below. from 1813 some policies taken out by Jews had a special Jews clause, whichappeared more frequently as time went on. It appears as the words 'Jews Clause' at the end of the policy or it is given in full, being some variation of 'No goods paid for which are stolen or lost by removal at or in consequence of a fire or alarm of fire'. I do hope that this information is helpful. With thanks to Petra Laidlaw for providing the answers to Jill's posting. Louise Messik, London -----Original Message----- Subject: Early London Insurance Policies From: jill.whitehead@... Could the compilers of the George Rigal data indicate if this information literally only relates to families living in London? As London was the capital city, is it possible that families who lived in other UK cities could have taken out an insurance policy via a company based in London? If this is only London based, are there other sources of information for provincial insurance policies? In my case, I am interested in Edinburgh, Liverpool, Manchester, Southport, Hull, Grimsby, Sheffield, Middlesbrough, and Harrogate. I have a contact in Chicago who has discovered that his turn- of- the- 20th century ancestor was a Jewish arsonist in Boston who tried to make money from insurance policies. He had an article published in Avoytanu in 2013 onthis topic. This sounds more of an American than UK thing but I am informed that his family's research showed that some Jewish arsonists did operate in London at the time. Jill Whitehead, Sutton, Surrey
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DRAHOFF, DREYHOFF, DREIHOFF
#general
Patti Waitman-Ingebretsen <pattitwirler@...>
NEED HELP WITH THIS SURNAME:
Walter Alexander Vincent DRAHOFF born 1907 where? , d 1975 Vancouver, BC, Canada Parents were: William Wasyl DRAHOFF b abt 1880 Poland, Minsk, Russia, d 1919 Toronto, Ontario, Canada Wife Frances Cecilia CZAPLICKA b abt 1891 Poland (daughter of Stanley CZAPLICKA??) 1) Walter Alexander DRAHOFF - family & death record say he was born Philadelphia, PA but no record found Was he really born in Toronto?? DRAHOFF - not finding this name in records or searches. Family story says grandfather, William W. Drahoff left Russia under dangerous situation and he may have changed his name to DRAHOFF so that they would not find him. He was only 39 years old when he died (left wife and 4 or 5 children). Any suggestions about how to track this DRAHOFF, DREYHOFF, DREIHOFF etc from Minsk, Russia. Thanks, Patti Waltman-Ingebretsen
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen DRAHOFF, DREYHOFF, DREIHOFF
#general
Patti Waitman-Ingebretsen <pattitwirler@...>
NEED HELP WITH THIS SURNAME:
Walter Alexander Vincent DRAHOFF born 1907 where? , d 1975 Vancouver, BC, Canada Parents were: William Wasyl DRAHOFF b abt 1880 Poland, Minsk, Russia, d 1919 Toronto, Ontario, Canada Wife Frances Cecilia CZAPLICKA b abt 1891 Poland (daughter of Stanley CZAPLICKA??) 1) Walter Alexander DRAHOFF - family & death record say he was born Philadelphia, PA but no record found Was he really born in Toronto?? DRAHOFF - not finding this name in records or searches. Family story says grandfather, William W. Drahoff left Russia under dangerous situation and he may have changed his name to DRAHOFF so that they would not find him. He was only 39 years old when he died (left wife and 4 or 5 children). Any suggestions about how to track this DRAHOFF, DREYHOFF, DREIHOFF etc from Minsk, Russia. Thanks, Patti Waltman-Ingebretsen
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Middle name Baraf?
#general
Snillop47@...
I am interested in the possible meaning of a Jewish middle name. The story
starts with a man born in a town in the Ottoman Empire in the 1860s whose middle name was Baraf. He came to England and his first son was born in 1892 and his middle name was also Baraf but none of his other children were given that name. Newspaper reports of the family sometimes print it as B'Araf and Be'Haraf. I can't find anything like it in my Hebrew-English Dictionary, nor in my Yiddish-English Dictionary. Any help? Harold Pollins
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Middle name Baraf?
#general
Snillop47@...
I am interested in the possible meaning of a Jewish middle name. The story
starts with a man born in a town in the Ottoman Empire in the 1860s whose middle name was Baraf. He came to England and his first son was born in 1892 and his middle name was also Baraf but none of his other children were given that name. Newspaper reports of the family sometimes print it as B'Araf and Be'Haraf. I can't find anything like it in my Hebrew-English Dictionary, nor in my Yiddish-English Dictionary. Any help? Harold Pollins
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Trying to locate Robert W. Marlin
#general
Natalie & Ernie Hartz
I have been unable to locate the author of "My Sixteen-a self help guide to
finding your 16 great grandparents", Robert W. Marlin. He is related to me through our grandmothers and we had been in contact in the 1990's. He was a professional genealogist who was kind enough to send me his book, in which he shows documents related to my paternal grandparents. He also sent me a copy of a photograph of his grandmother and her niece, Rose Resnick (my grandmother). I have recently come across 9in my now deceased uncle's possessions), a dozen studio portraits of many unnamed individuals (which are >from my paternal side of the family) and one of them matches the copy of the photo Robert sent me. They appear to be >from the approximate time frame of the 1900's. I had hoped that Robert might have similar photos that would help identify the people. have searched Switchboard and White Pages for him and have found someone whose previous addresses match to the ones I knew, but when I call the number, the phone has been disconnected, so I fear he may be deceased. His bio on the book states that he had served at one time on the Board of Directors of the Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Orlando. If anyone has any knowledge of Robert (or any of his immediate family members) please contact me off list. If you can offer general information on locating people that would benefit the group, and/or how to identify people from these old studio portraits, please feel free to post to the group aswell. Natalie Hartz East Windsor, NJ
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Trying to locate Robert W. Marlin
#general
Natalie & Ernie Hartz
I have been unable to locate the author of "My Sixteen-a self help guide to
finding your 16 great grandparents", Robert W. Marlin. He is related to me through our grandmothers and we had been in contact in the 1990's. He was a professional genealogist who was kind enough to send me his book, in which he shows documents related to my paternal grandparents. He also sent me a copy of a photograph of his grandmother and her niece, Rose Resnick (my grandmother). I have recently come across 9in my now deceased uncle's possessions), a dozen studio portraits of many unnamed individuals (which are >from my paternal side of the family) and one of them matches the copy of the photo Robert sent me. They appear to be >from the approximate time frame of the 1900's. I had hoped that Robert might have similar photos that would help identify the people. have searched Switchboard and White Pages for him and have found someone whose previous addresses match to the ones I knew, but when I call the number, the phone has been disconnected, so I fear he may be deceased. His bio on the book states that he had served at one time on the Board of Directors of the Jewish Genealogical Society of Greater Orlando. If anyone has any knowledge of Robert (or any of his immediate family members) please contact me off list. If you can offer general information on locating people that would benefit the group, and/or how to identify people from these old studio portraits, please feel free to post to the group aswell. Natalie Hartz East Windsor, NJ
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Towns in Wallachia
#general
Bubylu@...
I am trying, with no success, to find out the towns, cities or villages
that make up or made up the area in Wallawchia. I would certainly appreciate any help that you can provide me with. Thanks so much, Lois Segall Friedman Delray Beach, FL formally >from New Jersey Searching: Schiesel, Greif, Lechner, Segal
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Towns in Wallachia
#general
Bubylu@...
I am trying, with no success, to find out the towns, cities or villages
that make up or made up the area in Wallawchia. I would certainly appreciate any help that you can provide me with. Thanks so much, Lois Segall Friedman Delray Beach, FL formally >from New Jersey Searching: Schiesel, Greif, Lechner, Segal
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[US] Department of Defense to Preserve Historic Images
#general
Jan Meisels Allen
The Department of Defense's central repository for imagery, the Defense
Imagery Management Operations Center [DIMOC] recently signed a $5 million agreement to digitize, store and provide access to hundreds of thousands of historical images. In addition to its digital archive, the agency has a massive backlog of images on physical, analog media that ranges from photographic negatives and slides to films and VHS tapes which are deteriorating faster than they can offer it to the National Archives. They also have the problem that their climate-controlled facility in Riverside California is running out of space. Regardless of condition, images sent to Riverside are never simply destroyed, because they're federal records. Everything is assessed, barcoded and stored for later digitization. Originally, it was determined that it would take 25 years and $50 million to digitize the current analog holdings with available government resources. Instead they are taking a different approach that will take only 5 years. In exchange for digitizing the images, the contractor, T3Media, will be granted a limited period of exclusivity during which they will be able to charge non-DOD users a fair-market fee to use the images. This is similar to agreements that the National Archives has made with genealogical organizations to digitize some of their holdings. To read the article go to: http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=121516 To access a sampling of the holdings go to http://www.defenseimagery.mil/imagery.html Thank you to Martin Kaminer for sharing the information. Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen [US] Department of Defense to Preserve Historic Images
#general
Jan Meisels Allen
The Department of Defense's central repository for imagery, the Defense
Imagery Management Operations Center [DIMOC] recently signed a $5 million agreement to digitize, store and provide access to hundreds of thousands of historical images. In addition to its digital archive, the agency has a massive backlog of images on physical, analog media that ranges from photographic negatives and slides to films and VHS tapes which are deteriorating faster than they can offer it to the National Archives. They also have the problem that their climate-controlled facility in Riverside California is running out of space. Regardless of condition, images sent to Riverside are never simply destroyed, because they're federal records. Everything is assessed, barcoded and stored for later digitization. Originally, it was determined that it would take 25 years and $50 million to digitize the current analog holdings with available government resources. Instead they are taking a different approach that will take only 5 years. In exchange for digitizing the images, the contractor, T3Media, will be granted a limited period of exclusivity during which they will be able to charge non-DOD users a fair-market fee to use the images. This is similar to agreements that the National Archives has made with genealogical organizations to digitize some of their holdings. To read the article go to: http://www.defense.gov/news/newsarticle.aspx?id=121516 To access a sampling of the holdings go to http://www.defenseimagery.mil/imagery.html Thank you to Martin Kaminer for sharing the information. Jan Meisels Allen Chairperson, IAJGS Public Records Access Monitoring Committee
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Re: Adelheid RUBEL KUTTEN, Vienna to Paris 1930
#general
Barbara Mannlein <bsmannlein@...>
Ottakring is the name of Vienna's 16th district.
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Barbara Mannlein Tucson, AZ
On Jan 17, 2014, at 10:31 AM, Palekaiko wrote:
For several years now, I've attempted to obtain information and the life
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JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Adelheid RUBEL KUTTEN, Vienna to Paris 1930
#general
Barbara Mannlein <bsmannlein@...>
Ottakring is the name of Vienna's 16th district.
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Barbara Mannlein Tucson, AZ
On Jan 17, 2014, at 10:31 AM, Palekaiko wrote:
For several years now, I've attempted to obtain information and the life
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