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Cemetary in Motol and/or Ivanovo (Yanov). #general

jkushner@...
 

I would like to know the condition of the Jewish Cemetary in Motol and /or
Ivanovo (Yanov). Both are small shtetls in Belarus, west of Pinsk. Can you
suggest how I might obtain this information?

Thank you.

Joseph Kushner
jkushner@gt.rr.com


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Cemetary in Motol and/or Ivanovo (Yanov). #general

jkushner@...
 

I would like to know the condition of the Jewish Cemetary in Motol and /or
Ivanovo (Yanov). Both are small shtetls in Belarus, west of Pinsk. Can you
suggest how I might obtain this information?

Thank you.

Joseph Kushner
jkushner@gt.rr.com


Re: Surnames #austria-czech

Alexander Sharon
 

<MBernet@aol.com> wrote

==I'm sure we'd all like to believe that humiliating names are no longer
imposed in Europe. Don't dismiss that thought so quickly. Tuesday's New
York
Times reported on Werner Kufeldt, a 64-year-old widower and retired
bricklayer
from the German city of Essen.
==His name means Cow field. What an abusive name to impose on a Jew!

==Sorry, wait a minute. This Kufeldt, who made a trip across the border
to
the Netherlands to arrange a low-price cremation for when his life comes
to
its end, is not a Jew. Makes me wonder who forced that humiliating
anti-teutonic name on this Gentile family.
Well, not every goyishe Teutonic was Immanuel Kant, you know.

(...)

==Surprise? Still believe that evil Gentiles commonly imposed nasty
surnames
on hapless Jews?
Let's not generalize about the "evil' Gentales. Discussion was about German
and Austrian officials practices toward tradional 'Ost Juden' on the
occupied territories.

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Ab


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Surnames #general

Alexander Sharon
 

<MBernet@aol.com> wrote

==I'm sure we'd all like to believe that humiliating names are no longer
imposed in Europe. Don't dismiss that thought so quickly. Tuesday's New
York
Times reported on Werner Kufeldt, a 64-year-old widower and retired
bricklayer
from the German city of Essen.
==His name means Cow field. What an abusive name to impose on a Jew!

==Sorry, wait a minute. This Kufeldt, who made a trip across the border
to
the Netherlands to arrange a low-price cremation for when his life comes
to
its end, is not a Jew. Makes me wonder who forced that humiliating
anti-teutonic name on this Gentile family.
Well, not every goyishe Teutonic was Immanuel Kant, you know.

(...)

==Surprise? Still believe that evil Gentiles commonly imposed nasty
surnames
on hapless Jews?
Let's not generalize about the "evil' Gentales. Discussion was about German
and Austrian officials practices toward tradional 'Ost Juden' on the
occupied territories.

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Ab


Re: Witnesses Can Be Very Important!! #general

Nachum Tuchman
 

Hi,

I can't claim a great an achievement as Helene's amazing story.
However, my paternal GF's petition for citizenship, US, in 1920 had as
his witnesses, 1) his brother-in-law, my GM's sister's husband, who is
known to the family 2) a Harry ASPIS. All my parent's knew about
Harry was that he was a good friend of my GF. I later found out,
through my GM's birth record that her mother's maiden name was ASPIS.=20
I haven't yet found a connection between Harry and my grandparents,
nor have I found any descendants of Harry, but I imagine that he was
related to my GM, somehow.

I ordered 13 records >from Busko-Zdroj, then Kielce Gubernia. On all
of the records that were not for my GM or her siblings, her father, my
GGF, was a witness. Apparantly, one of his jobs, as a town gabai, was
town witness. Other than pride in his job, which I only learned from
the records, I was able to track the age listed on all 13 records to
see that he aged chronologically with the records. I think that I can
safely assume that his age listed, and the year of birth calculated
from his age, is correct.
Nachum Tuchman
Tekoa, Israel

On 7/8/05, hekenvin@bellsouth.net <hekenvin@bellsouth.net> wrote:
I believe it is a mistake to ignore the witnesses.
Witnesses to milestone events often are members of the family or
close friends whose descendants may provide information about your family.
Here is an illustrative example.
Helene Kenvin
Please note my new e-mail address


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Witnesses Can Be Very Important!! #general

Nachum Tuchman
 

Hi,

I can't claim a great an achievement as Helene's amazing story.
However, my paternal GF's petition for citizenship, US, in 1920 had as
his witnesses, 1) his brother-in-law, my GM's sister's husband, who is
known to the family 2) a Harry ASPIS. All my parent's knew about
Harry was that he was a good friend of my GF. I later found out,
through my GM's birth record that her mother's maiden name was ASPIS.=20
I haven't yet found a connection between Harry and my grandparents,
nor have I found any descendants of Harry, but I imagine that he was
related to my GM, somehow.

I ordered 13 records >from Busko-Zdroj, then Kielce Gubernia. On all
of the records that were not for my GM or her siblings, her father, my
GGF, was a witness. Apparantly, one of his jobs, as a town gabai, was
town witness. Other than pride in his job, which I only learned from
the records, I was able to track the age listed on all 13 records to
see that he aged chronologically with the records. I think that I can
safely assume that his age listed, and the year of birth calculated
from his age, is correct.
Nachum Tuchman
Tekoa, Israel

On 7/8/05, hekenvin@bellsouth.net <hekenvin@bellsouth.net> wrote:
I believe it is a mistake to ignore the witnesses.
Witnesses to milestone events often are members of the family or
close friends whose descendants may provide information about your family.
Here is an illustrative example.
Helene Kenvin
Please note my new e-mail address


Re: Jurjew #general

Alexander Sharon
 

"Trevor Waner" wrote

At the bottom of a photograph of my great grandfather is written the word
Jurjew. I looked this up in the internet and it seems to be a town in
Poland. That is strange because my family comes >from Lithuania. Has
anyone information about this town, its Jewish inhabitants, etc.

Looking forward hearing about this.

Best regards and Shabbat Shalom,

Juriev is a Russian name of the Estonian town known currently as Tartu
(Dorpat in German).
Search JewishGen and through the Google information about this town and its
Jewish community.
Tartu is considered as the intellectual centre of Estonia and is a main
rival to country capital-Tallinn.

Amongst my friends in South Africa, there were several whos families have
originated >from Kurland (Courland) - the historical territory that is now
divided between modern Estonia and Latvia.

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Ab


Re: Jurjew #general

Evelyn Waldstein
 

At the bottom of a photograph of my great grandfather is written the word
Jurjew.
Jurjew was a small town known also as Dorpat and in to-day Estonia as
Tartu. It was famous for its well known liberal University many Jews >from
the Baltic region and other places in Russia (and not only) tended to get
their higher education as medical doctors, pharmacists, lawyers and other
specialties. Tuition was in Russian and German at those days.

Evelyn Waldstein
mailto:evewa@post.tau.ac.il


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Jurjew #general

Alexander Sharon
 

"Trevor Waner" wrote

At the bottom of a photograph of my great grandfather is written the word
Jurjew. I looked this up in the internet and it seems to be a town in
Poland. That is strange because my family comes >from Lithuania. Has
anyone information about this town, its Jewish inhabitants, etc.

Looking forward hearing about this.

Best regards and Shabbat Shalom,

Juriev is a Russian name of the Estonian town known currently as Tartu
(Dorpat in German).
Search JewishGen and through the Google information about this town and its
Jewish community.
Tartu is considered as the intellectual centre of Estonia and is a main
rival to country capital-Tallinn.

Amongst my friends in South Africa, there were several whos families have
originated >from Kurland (Courland) - the historical territory that is now
divided between modern Estonia and Latvia.

Alexander Sharon
Calgary, Ab


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: Jurjew #general

Evelyn Waldstein
 

At the bottom of a photograph of my great grandfather is written the word
Jurjew.
Jurjew was a small town known also as Dorpat and in to-day Estonia as
Tartu. It was famous for its well known liberal University many Jews >from
the Baltic region and other places in Russia (and not only) tended to get
their higher education as medical doctors, pharmacists, lawyers and other
specialties. Tuition was in Russian and German at those days.

Evelyn Waldstein
mailto:evewa@post.tau.ac.il


1902 New York City directory Make sense of this please #general

Nachum Tuchman
 

I think that the point of the 1985 fire notice was that it indicates
that the Eldridge street address was a residence, and so would seem to
indicate that the good doctor indeed did live there, even though way
back in 1902, notwithstanding the fact that it is listed first in the
directory and doesn't have an 'h' preceding.

Please excuse my run on sentence. English may be my first language,
but I learned in the States. (Our British friends will certainly
understand).

Nachum Tuchman
Tekoa, Israel

On 7/10/05, ilyaz <ilyaz@earthlink.net> wrote:
This is interesting info, but of no use for me. I'm looking for info c.
1902...

Ilya Zeldes
Fort Myers, Florida


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Fwd: 1902 New York City directory Make sense of this please #general

Nachum Tuchman
 

I think that the point of the 1985 fire notice was that it indicates
that the Eldridge street address was a residence, and so would seem to
indicate that the good doctor indeed did live there, even though way
back in 1902, notwithstanding the fact that it is listed first in the
directory and doesn't have an 'h' preceding.

Please excuse my run on sentence. English may be my first language,
but I learned in the States. (Our British friends will certainly
understand).

Nachum Tuchman
Tekoa, Israel

On 7/10/05, ilyaz <ilyaz@earthlink.net> wrote:
This is interesting info, but of no use for me. I'm looking for info c.
1902...

Ilya Zeldes
Fort Myers, Florida


JG: Re: 1902 New York City directory Make sense of this please #general

jeremy frankel
 

At 1:00 AM -0500 7/10/05, JewishGen Discussion Group digest wrote:
> May someone please make sense of an entry in the 1902 New York City
directory?
The exact quote is as this:
< Abramson Max physician 54 Eldridge, extracts 76 Forsyth & manager 118
Canal >
> Looks to me there are 3 work places, but no home address. What these work

Dear Ilyaz,

Yes, it does look confusing. What might help would be to look at the
AMA (American Medical Association) annual directory for that year. I
can do this for you but it'll have to wait until after the Las Vegas
Conference.

Jeremy G Frankel
ex-Edgware, Middlesex, England
Berkeley, California, USA


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JG: Re: 1902 New York City directory Make sense of this please #general

jeremy frankel
 

At 1:00 AM -0500 7/10/05, JewishGen Discussion Group digest wrote:
> May someone please make sense of an entry in the 1902 New York City
directory?
The exact quote is as this:
< Abramson Max physician 54 Eldridge, extracts 76 Forsyth & manager 118
Canal >
> Looks to me there are 3 work places, but no home address. What these work

Dear Ilyaz,

Yes, it does look confusing. What might help would be to look at the
AMA (American Medical Association) annual directory for that year. I
can do this for you but it'll have to wait until after the Las Vegas
Conference.

Jeremy G Frankel
ex-Edgware, Middlesex, England
Berkeley, California, USA


Jakob David KANTOROWICZ, Wilhelmina Henrietta/Minne Mindel Isaakovna Kantorowicz #poland #warsaw

"Robert Alexander René Dupuis" <Rob.Dup.@...>
 

Hello,

that's my first time on warszawa-sig. Hoping you can help my with my
researchs for documents about my late great-greatgrandfather the russian
railway-official Jakob Davidov KANTOROWITZ/KANTOROWICZ (b. 1835 in
Slonim/Belorus. d. 1903 in Warszawa or St. Petersburg), his wife
Henriette/Minne Mindel/Wilhemina Isaakovna KANTOROWITZ (b. 1842 in
Riga/Latvia, d. 1914 in St. Petersburg), nee KEILMANN and their three
childrens: Sophia Jakobovna KANTOROWITZ (b. 1863 in Vilnius, married ?
children? dies ?), Alexandr Jakobov KANTOROWITZ (b. 1866 in Vilnius, married
?, childrens ? dies ?) and my greatgrandmum Eugenie Jakobovna KEILMANN, nee
KANTOROWITZ (b. 1868 in Vilnius; 1886 married in Riga with the dentist
Isidor Philipov KEILMANN; killed in autum 1941, with her husband and other
relativs, into the Ghetto Riga/Latvia).
Now I want to know, if Jakob KANTOROWITZ as a railway official stood with
his family a time (ca. 1886-1898/1900 ?) in Warszawa ?
My late greatgrandmum Eugenie wrote in Riga into a notice 1936, that she
grows up in Charkov and went there to a privat school. Also, that her
parents lived in Warszawa in 1896.

If any people can help my with my researchs, please contact me.


Best regards and a gitn Shabbes


Robert Dupuis
Berlin/Germany

--
Robert Dupuis

Weitersagen: GMX DSL-Flatrates mit Tempo-Garantie!
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Warszawa Research Group #Warsaw #Poland Jakob David KANTOROWICZ, Wilhelmina Henrietta/Minne Mindel Isaakovna Kantorowicz #warsaw #poland

"Robert Alexander René Dupuis" <Rob.Dup.@...>
 

Hello,

that's my first time on warszawa-sig. Hoping you can help my with my
researchs for documents about my late great-greatgrandfather the russian
railway-official Jakob Davidov KANTOROWITZ/KANTOROWICZ (b. 1835 in
Slonim/Belorus. d. 1903 in Warszawa or St. Petersburg), his wife
Henriette/Minne Mindel/Wilhemina Isaakovna KANTOROWITZ (b. 1842 in
Riga/Latvia, d. 1914 in St. Petersburg), nee KEILMANN and their three
childrens: Sophia Jakobovna KANTOROWITZ (b. 1863 in Vilnius, married ?
children? dies ?), Alexandr Jakobov KANTOROWITZ (b. 1866 in Vilnius, married
?, childrens ? dies ?) and my greatgrandmum Eugenie Jakobovna KEILMANN, nee
KANTOROWITZ (b. 1868 in Vilnius; 1886 married in Riga with the dentist
Isidor Philipov KEILMANN; killed in autum 1941, with her husband and other
relativs, into the Ghetto Riga/Latvia).
Now I want to know, if Jakob KANTOROWITZ as a railway official stood with
his family a time (ca. 1886-1898/1900 ?) in Warszawa ?
My late greatgrandmum Eugenie wrote in Riga into a notice 1936, that she
grows up in Charkov and went there to a privat school. Also, that her
parents lived in Warszawa in 1896.

If any people can help my with my researchs, please contact me.


Best regards and a gitn Shabbes


Robert Dupuis
Berlin/Germany

--
Robert Dupuis

Weitersagen: GMX DSL-Flatrates mit Tempo-Garantie!
Ab 4,99 Euro/Monat: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/dsl


Vicki Blum - Budapest VI #hungary

John J Kovacs <j.kovacs@...>
 

Vicki Blum is looking for Mrs. Bosch's relatives in
Budapest. Dr. Bosch Gyorgyne lived in the VI district
otherwise known as Terez Varos. The name of the
street that she gives does not exist. Suggest
rereading the letter for the street's correct name.
She probably should write to current resident in
Hungarian. As far as I know, city directories with
tenant's names only exist until 1929-1930.
John Kovacs


HAJDU/ RYBICSKA - Szeged/Budapest #hungary

Lachaus
 

I am looking for any information on
Mor Ferenc HAJDU, born in Budapest in 1861 (son of Jakab HAUSER and Lotti
ROTH) and any children he may have had. He changed his name >from HAUSER to
HAJDU in 1898. Mor HAJDU worked as an engineer for MAV the Hungarian State
Railways in Szeged. He married Paula RYBICSKA.

Do the Hungarian Railways give information on their deceased staff?

Can anyone shed light on the origin of the RYBICSKA surname? It seems to be
unusual.

Many thanks in advance
Paula HAUSER
Brussels
from Budapest:
HAUSER, HAJDU,WEINER, HOROVITZ, FRANKFURTER, ROTHSTEIN, STRASSER, SEEMANN,
SCHROTER
RUBINSTEIN (Budapest/Sieniewa)


cemetery statistics #hungary

Logan J. Kleinwaks
 

Can anyone supply or suggest where to find statistics about the state of
H-SIG area cemeteries and their documentation? I am especially interested
in quantified descriptions of:

1) the rate at which the cemeteries are being destroyed (by natural or other
means)

2) the rate at which inscriptions on the matzevot are becoming illegible

3) the extent of written or photographic documentation of the matzevot

If there are any standards by which cemeteries are considered endangered, I
would also be interested in knowing which H-SIG area cemeteries qualify.

Thank you very much and best regards,

Logan Kleinwaks
kleinwaks@alumni.princeton.edu
near Washington, D.C.


H-SIG List Off Net This Week #hungary

Vivian Kahn
 

Due to the 25th Annual IAJGS Conference, we will not being processing
any Hungarian SIG messages until Friday, July 15.

Vivian Kahn, H-SIG Coordinator