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Gubernias and Towns #general

Aaron M Fink <aaronfink@...>
 

Hi All:
I have a few pieces of evidence pointing to the FINKELSTEIN family I am
researching comes >from Lomza. I know that Lomza can be referred to as the
town and as the Gubernia.
I have located a WWI Draft Card that lists Israel FINKELSTEIN's birth town
as Lomza. (Adding this to the other evidence I have, I know that the family
is at least >from the Lomza Gubernia.) My question is this: Would someone
on a questionnaire like this, answer the question "Where were you born?"
with the answer Lomza, if they did only live in the Gubernia, not the town.
Or if being asked that question thousands of miles away >from where you were
actually born (and knowing the person reading it would not really know
either locale) you would just be very general. I know my questions is very
subjective, but I would like opinions.
Thank you,

Have a great day!

Aaron M Fink
Atlanta, GA

Researching: FINKELSTEIN (Lomza)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Gubernias and Towns #general

Aaron M Fink <aaronfink@...>
 

Hi All:
I have a few pieces of evidence pointing to the FINKELSTEIN family I am
researching comes >from Lomza. I know that Lomza can be referred to as the
town and as the Gubernia.
I have located a WWI Draft Card that lists Israel FINKELSTEIN's birth town
as Lomza. (Adding this to the other evidence I have, I know that the family
is at least >from the Lomza Gubernia.) My question is this: Would someone
on a questionnaire like this, answer the question "Where were you born?"
with the answer Lomza, if they did only live in the Gubernia, not the town.
Or if being asked that question thousands of miles away >from where you were
actually born (and knowing the person reading it would not really know
either locale) you would just be very general. I know my questions is very
subjective, but I would like opinions.
Thank you,

Have a great day!

Aaron M Fink
Atlanta, GA

Researching: FINKELSTEIN (Lomza)


WAJSENBERG and ytandv digest: March 13, 2006 #yiddish

mark
 

Dear Genners. I am searching WAJSENBERG Icchok Meir 1871-1938 yiddish writer
from Poland
Wajsenberg Mark
Israel
mark306@bezeqint.net


Yiddish Theatre and Vadeville #YiddishTheatre WAJSENBERG and ytandv digest: March 13, 2006 #yiddish

mark
 

Dear Genners. I am searching WAJSENBERG Icchok Meir 1871-1938 yiddish writer
from Poland
Wajsenberg Mark
Israel
mark306@bezeqint.net


DUNEVA in Odessa #general

Anita <anitac47@...>
 

I responded to someone's email on March 8 with regard to the family name
DUNEVA in Odessa. Unfortunately I can't find the email I responded to so I
don't know which list or whom to notify and I do have very good news. So,
whoever you were, please contact me asap.

Sheepishly,
Anita Citron


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen DUNEVA in Odessa #general

Anita <anitac47@...>
 

I responded to someone's email on March 8 with regard to the family name
DUNEVA in Odessa. Unfortunately I can't find the email I responded to so I
don't know which list or whom to notify and I do have very good news. So,
whoever you were, please contact me asap.

Sheepishly,
Anita Citron


Searching for Family ZALMANOVITCH from Papile, Lithuania #general

Valerie Cummings <chesterzebel@...>
 

My name is Valerie Zebel Cummings and I am researching my grandfather's family.
My grandfather is Meier (Mayer) ZALMANOVITCH (ZALMANOWITZ).I am unsure of the
specific spelling of his last name because I have seen it spelled several
different ways. My grandfather changed his name to Max ZEBEL when he arrived in
the U.S. in 1907 / 1908. He lived in Papile, Lithuania prior to coming to the
U.S. There are few details that I know about him. He was born about 1889.
His father's name was Moshe (Morris) and his mother's name was Sarah YEACE.
His father was a farmer in Lithuania. He had about six siblings. Two of his
brothers came to the US before him. I believe one of his brother's
names were Mendel.

Does any of this sound familiar to you? You can view a photo of my grandfather
Meier here:

http://www.barrymann.net/lithuania/Valerie.html

Please also help me identify the lady in the photo.


Please respond to me privately.


Your help is appreciated.

Valerie Cummings


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Searching for Family ZALMANOVITCH from Papile, Lithuania #general

Valerie Cummings <chesterzebel@...>
 

My name is Valerie Zebel Cummings and I am researching my grandfather's family.
My grandfather is Meier (Mayer) ZALMANOVITCH (ZALMANOWITZ).I am unsure of the
specific spelling of his last name because I have seen it spelled several
different ways. My grandfather changed his name to Max ZEBEL when he arrived in
the U.S. in 1907 / 1908. He lived in Papile, Lithuania prior to coming to the
U.S. There are few details that I know about him. He was born about 1889.
His father's name was Moshe (Morris) and his mother's name was Sarah YEACE.
His father was a farmer in Lithuania. He had about six siblings. Two of his
brothers came to the US before him. I believe one of his brother's
names were Mendel.

Does any of this sound familiar to you? You can view a photo of my grandfather
Meier here:

http://www.barrymann.net/lithuania/Valerie.html

Please also help me identify the lady in the photo.


Please respond to me privately.


Your help is appreciated.

Valerie Cummings


Re: The JC Archive - using it in conjunction with Microfilm #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

"Nick" <tulse04-news@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:dv3sc7$r0c$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
As it says searching the archive is free, whereas they charge for viewing
and printing items. Therefore the search engine can be used to identify
potential items of interest, and with these one can go to a university
library
which has the JC on microfilm.
Someone has written to me privately that I have not made it clear what JC
Archive is referring to.

JC is the London Jewish Chronicle and the website is www.thejc.com.

Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WEITZMAN (Cracow), WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany)
KOHN/WEISSKOPF (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany) LANDAU (only adopted
on leaving Belarus or later)/FREDKIN (?) (Gomel, Mogilev, Chernigov,
Belarus)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: The JC Archive - using it in conjunction with Microfilm #general

Nick <tulse04-news@...>
 

"Nick" <tulse04-news@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:dv3sc7$r0c$1@nwrdmz02.dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com...
As it says searching the archive is free, whereas they charge for viewing
and printing items. Therefore the search engine can be used to identify
potential items of interest, and with these one can go to a university
library
which has the JC on microfilm.
Someone has written to me privately that I have not made it clear what JC
Archive is referring to.

JC is the London Jewish Chronicle and the website is www.thejc.com.

Nick Landau
London, UK

COHNREICH (Anklam, Germany Krajenka, Poland) ATLAS (Wielkie Oczy (near
Lvov/Lemberg), Poland) WEITZMAN (Cracow), WECHSLER(Schwabach, Germany)
KOHN/WEISSKOPF (Wallerstein and Kleinerdlingen,Germany) LANDAU (only adopted
on leaving Belarus or later)/FREDKIN (?) (Gomel, Mogilev, Chernigov,
Belarus)


Re: family relationships #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

How can I obtain a copy about family relationships, e.g. what are my first
cousin's children and grandchildren to me, etc.

Henriette Podell
The children of your first cousin are your First Cousins, Once Removed. The
grandchildren of your first cousins are your First Cousins, Twice Removed. The
"removal degree" is the difference in generations.

Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the
URL is: http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address
is not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the
URL above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email
form there.

MODERATOR NOTE: Perhaps there have been sufficient responses to this enquiry
to close the thread?


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: family relationships #general

Stan Goodman <SPAM_FOILER@...>
 

How can I obtain a copy about family relationships, e.g. what are my first
cousin's children and grandchildren to me, etc.

Henriette Podell
The children of your first cousin are your First Cousins, Once Removed. The
grandchildren of your first cousins are your First Cousins, Twice Removed. The
"removal degree" is the difference in generations.

Stan Goodman, Qiryat Tiv'on, Israel

Searching:
NEACHOWICZ/NOACHOWICZ, NEJMAN/NAJMAN, SURALSKI: Lomza Gubernia
ISMACH: Lomza Gubernia, Galicia, and Ukraina
HERTANU, ABRAMOVICI, LAUER: Dorohoi District, Romania
GRISARU, VATARU: Iasi, Dorohoi, and Mileanca, Romania

See my interactive family tree (requires Java 1.1.6 or better). the
URL is: http://www.hashkedim.com

For reasons connected with anti-spam/junk security, the return address
is not valid. To communicate with me, please visit my website (see the
URL above -- no Java required for this purpose) and fill in the email
form there.

MODERATOR NOTE: Perhaps there have been sufficient responses to this enquiry
to close the thread?


Re: family relationships #general

joyweave
 

Henriette,

Are you using a standard Family Tree software program? I think most of
them have a built-in relationship calculator. I know Family Tree Maker
does.

Joy Weaver

Henriette Podell wrote:

How can I obtain a copy about family relationships, e.g. what are my first
cousin's children and grandchildren to me, etc.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Re: family relationships #general

joyweave
 

Henriette,

Are you using a standard Family Tree software program? I think most of
them have a built-in relationship calculator. I know Family Tree Maker
does.

Joy Weaver

Henriette Podell wrote:

How can I obtain a copy about family relationships, e.g. what are my first
cousin's children and grandchildren to me, etc.


Re: Anyone knew Hans ELSBACH/TRIXER? #general

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

David Regos asks if any one knew a magician: <"his full name was Hans Eric
ELSBACH, born .. Dortmund, Germany .. 1921 .... moved to Holland in 1939 .. was
captured by the Nazis and placed in concentration camps .... survived by
performing magic ...">

I first came across Hans ELSBACH when I screened all the magicians >from Vienna
and the former Habsburg Crown Lands of Bohemia and Moravia [now Czech Rep.]
listed here: http://www.jewsinmagic.org/all_mag.asp

Hans {TRIXER} ELSBACH joined the tragic band of people who somehow managed to
survive or extend their lives in concentration camps because their artistic or
other qualities endeared them to their sadistic captors.

Alma ROSE [*e* accent], born 1906, was probably one of the best known of these.
Her mother, Justine, was Gustav MAHLER's sister. Her father, Arnold [ne
ROSENBLUM] in Jassy, 24 0ct. 1863], was one of the leading musicians in Vienna.
One of Alma's [violinist] greatest admirers was the gruesome Mengele and it is
said that he mourned her death >from food poisoning.

Hans ELSBACH [Dortmund, July 26, 1921 - New Orleans, September 23, 1994] was a
jeweller - who ran a bookshop in Dortmund and taught himself magic in 1936
from a classic German book. Like Alma [a violinist and concentration camp
orchestra leader] Hans stayed alive by performing magic acts for the guards and
prisoners. In 1952, he moved to Rhodesia [which once had a sizeable Jewish
community] to become director of a large diamond corporation. For Jews of
Rhodesia, see David Bloom's website: http://www.zjc.org.il/

On the magicians' website, you will find references to two books which hopefully
give more details. There is also some correpondence of ELSBACH with photographer
Eliot ELISOFON at the archives at the University of Texas, Austin:
http://tinyurl.com/qkztr

I have found that POTs have been written for two ELSBACH brothers >from Dortmund
or Hoerde: father Levy ELSBACH and mother Emilie nee GOLDSCHMIDT:

1. Julius [dob 27 Nov. 1882] was married to Helene nee LOEWENSTEIN. You will
also find Helene and Julius have POTs submitted by their daughter, Hilda
GOLENDER and nephew Hans HEIMANN in Israel. Walter, son of Julius & Helena; born
Dortmund 1913 has POT submitted by Hilda GOLDNER [sic] & Hans. Multiple POTs
for each.

3. Willi - single, an engineer has 4 POTs with photographs - [dob 8 June 1884].

I suspect these are relatives of Hans ELSBACH. Julius had a shop - perhaps that
is the jewellery shop Hans trained at? One recent testimony submitter [reseacher}
is Alex SALM who lives in Germany and is a survivor.

Celia Male [U.K.]

Footnote: Search Yad vashem for ELSBACH Dortmund, Hoerde and Koeln to find all
these POTs. We remember all these victims here today.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen re: Anyone knew Hans ELSBACH/TRIXER? #general

Celia Male <celiamale@...>
 

David Regos asks if any one knew a magician: <"his full name was Hans Eric
ELSBACH, born .. Dortmund, Germany .. 1921 .... moved to Holland in 1939 .. was
captured by the Nazis and placed in concentration camps .... survived by
performing magic ...">

I first came across Hans ELSBACH when I screened all the magicians >from Vienna
and the former Habsburg Crown Lands of Bohemia and Moravia [now Czech Rep.]
listed here: http://www.jewsinmagic.org/all_mag.asp

Hans {TRIXER} ELSBACH joined the tragic band of people who somehow managed to
survive or extend their lives in concentration camps because their artistic or
other qualities endeared them to their sadistic captors.

Alma ROSE [*e* accent], born 1906, was probably one of the best known of these.
Her mother, Justine, was Gustav MAHLER's sister. Her father, Arnold [ne
ROSENBLUM] in Jassy, 24 0ct. 1863], was one of the leading musicians in Vienna.
One of Alma's [violinist] greatest admirers was the gruesome Mengele and it is
said that he mourned her death >from food poisoning.

Hans ELSBACH [Dortmund, July 26, 1921 - New Orleans, September 23, 1994] was a
jeweller - who ran a bookshop in Dortmund and taught himself magic in 1936
from a classic German book. Like Alma [a violinist and concentration camp
orchestra leader] Hans stayed alive by performing magic acts for the guards and
prisoners. In 1952, he moved to Rhodesia [which once had a sizeable Jewish
community] to become director of a large diamond corporation. For Jews of
Rhodesia, see David Bloom's website: http://www.zjc.org.il/

On the magicians' website, you will find references to two books which hopefully
give more details. There is also some correpondence of ELSBACH with photographer
Eliot ELISOFON at the archives at the University of Texas, Austin:
http://tinyurl.com/qkztr

I have found that POTs have been written for two ELSBACH brothers >from Dortmund
or Hoerde: father Levy ELSBACH and mother Emilie nee GOLDSCHMIDT:

1. Julius [dob 27 Nov. 1882] was married to Helene nee LOEWENSTEIN. You will
also find Helene and Julius have POTs submitted by their daughter, Hilda
GOLENDER and nephew Hans HEIMANN in Israel. Walter, son of Julius & Helena; born
Dortmund 1913 has POT submitted by Hilda GOLDNER [sic] & Hans. Multiple POTs
for each.

3. Willi - single, an engineer has 4 POTs with photographs - [dob 8 June 1884].

I suspect these are relatives of Hans ELSBACH. Julius had a shop - perhaps that
is the jewellery shop Hans trained at? One recent testimony submitter [reseacher}
is Alex SALM who lives in Germany and is a survivor.

Celia Male [U.K.]

Footnote: Search Yad vashem for ELSBACH Dortmund, Hoerde and Koeln to find all
these POTs. We remember all these victims here today.


Descendants of Beile Sossie ZUCKERMAN and Chaim Leib FREUND #general

Leah and Eli Teicher
 

Dear Genners,
Beile Sossie ZUCKERMAN was married to Chaim Leib FREUND, in the mid 19th
century. They had a daughter named Sarah Leah. All were born and lived in
Chyrow, Ukraine. These details are given in JRI Poland.

Chaim FREUND left (then) Poland to the U.S.A he was 44 years old.
Chaim FREUND was born on 1867, came to the U.S.A on May 31st 1911 (Ellis
Island data). He declared he had come >from Chyrow and that he had left there
his wife Beile Sossie . He also added that he had come to his brother in law
Itzchak (Isaac)ZUCKERMAN, who to my opinion was his wife's brother.
Since my paternal family is ZUCKERMAN >from Chyrow I wonder if they had more
children, if BEILE had joined him, and most important -
Who are their descendants?
I assume Beile and Itzchak ZUCKERMAN were my great grandfather's (Menachem
Yehuda) brothers. Mainly because OF 2 REASONS:
1) Many of our cousins have those private names: Beile , Isaac, Leah, Sarah.
2) Chyrow then a little village with a large ZUCKERMAN family there

I hope someone has any idea how to look for them, or knows any details. I
would appreciate it very much.
Happy Purim,
Please answer to anafa-e@zahav.net.il

Dr. Leah Teicher,
Israel
Searching: ZUCKERMAN, FREUND, JUST (YUST), HERTZBERG - >from Chyrow , Krosno,
Jaslo, Tarnobrzeg, Sanok, Zmigrod, Przemysle). TEICHER, SCHUBER (SZUBER) - >from
Zablatov, Kolomea, Rudki, Kulsszkowce all in Galicia.
SIDI, ASHER - >from Izmir, Turkey.
GORENSHTEIN, BARAL, CHARONCIES - >from Rovno, Ukraine.

MODERATOR NOTE: This item required considerable editing. When submitting please
remember that surnames should have all capital letters, but not given names or
place names or words for emphasis.


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen Descendants of Beile Sossie ZUCKERMAN and Chaim Leib FREUND #general

Leah and Eli Teicher
 

Dear Genners,
Beile Sossie ZUCKERMAN was married to Chaim Leib FREUND, in the mid 19th
century. They had a daughter named Sarah Leah. All were born and lived in
Chyrow, Ukraine. These details are given in JRI Poland.

Chaim FREUND left (then) Poland to the U.S.A he was 44 years old.
Chaim FREUND was born on 1867, came to the U.S.A on May 31st 1911 (Ellis
Island data). He declared he had come >from Chyrow and that he had left there
his wife Beile Sossie . He also added that he had come to his brother in law
Itzchak (Isaac)ZUCKERMAN, who to my opinion was his wife's brother.
Since my paternal family is ZUCKERMAN >from Chyrow I wonder if they had more
children, if BEILE had joined him, and most important -
Who are their descendants?
I assume Beile and Itzchak ZUCKERMAN were my great grandfather's (Menachem
Yehuda) brothers. Mainly because OF 2 REASONS:
1) Many of our cousins have those private names: Beile , Isaac, Leah, Sarah.
2) Chyrow then a little village with a large ZUCKERMAN family there

I hope someone has any idea how to look for them, or knows any details. I
would appreciate it very much.
Happy Purim,
Please answer to anafa-e@zahav.net.il

Dr. Leah Teicher,
Israel
Searching: ZUCKERMAN, FREUND, JUST (YUST), HERTZBERG - >from Chyrow , Krosno,
Jaslo, Tarnobrzeg, Sanok, Zmigrod, Przemysle). TEICHER, SCHUBER (SZUBER) - >from
Zablatov, Kolomea, Rudki, Kulsszkowce all in Galicia.
SIDI, ASHER - >from Izmir, Turkey.
GORENSHTEIN, BARAL, CHARONCIES - >from Rovno, Ukraine.

MODERATOR NOTE: This item required considerable editing. When submitting please
remember that surnames should have all capital letters, but not given names or
place names or words for emphasis.


JGSGB 2006 Manchester Conference #general

Lorna Kay <lorna.kay@...>
 

DIARY DATE - Sunday, 14th May 2006
Jewish Genealogical Society of Great Britain
Manchester Regional Group

4th Annual Full Day Conference
Five Speakers -
Nick Evans: Here To-day, Gone To-morrow - Jewish mobility and settlement
following the readmission.
Harvey Kaplan - The Tartan Tallis - Jewish roots in Scotland since the 17th
Century.
George Anticoni - Both Sides of the Bosphorus: Researching genealogy, family
tradition and Sephardi culture in Istanbul.
Bill Williams - The Refugees - 1933 - 1945
Basil Jeuda - Manchester's Sephardi Roots

Twelve Exhibitors including -
National Archives, Kew
Manchester & Lancashire Family History Society
Manchester Central Library Archives Dept
Dr Nathan Abrams of Aberdeen University
West Yorkshire Archives
Manchester Jewish Museum
Harper Collins (Publishers of BBC Who Do You Think You Are? books and CDs)
Manchester Jewish Museum
and more......

For more information contact lorna.kay@btopenworld.com

Lorna Kay
Chairman - Manchester Regional Group
&
Regional Group Co-ordinator
Council Member
Jewish Genealogical Society of Great Britain

Researching
WEISBERG (Kamenets Podolsk, Ukraine); SEABERG (Tukums, Latvia)
KUTCHINSKY (Piotrkow, Russia-Poland); FROMBERG (Russia)
BLUESTONE (Roumania); VALENSTEIN (Russia)


JewishGen Discussion Group #JewishGen JGSGB 2006 Manchester Conference #general

Lorna Kay <lorna.kay@...>
 

DIARY DATE - Sunday, 14th May 2006
Jewish Genealogical Society of Great Britain
Manchester Regional Group

4th Annual Full Day Conference
Five Speakers -
Nick Evans: Here To-day, Gone To-morrow - Jewish mobility and settlement
following the readmission.
Harvey Kaplan - The Tartan Tallis - Jewish roots in Scotland since the 17th
Century.
George Anticoni - Both Sides of the Bosphorus: Researching genealogy, family
tradition and Sephardi culture in Istanbul.
Bill Williams - The Refugees - 1933 - 1945
Basil Jeuda - Manchester's Sephardi Roots

Twelve Exhibitors including -
National Archives, Kew
Manchester & Lancashire Family History Society
Manchester Central Library Archives Dept
Dr Nathan Abrams of Aberdeen University
West Yorkshire Archives
Manchester Jewish Museum
Harper Collins (Publishers of BBC Who Do You Think You Are? books and CDs)
Manchester Jewish Museum
and more......

For more information contact lorna.kay@btopenworld.com

Lorna Kay
Chairman - Manchester Regional Group
&
Regional Group Co-ordinator
Council Member
Jewish Genealogical Society of Great Britain

Researching
WEISBERG (Kamenets Podolsk, Ukraine); SEABERG (Tukums, Latvia)
KUTCHINSKY (Piotrkow, Russia-Poland); FROMBERG (Russia)
BLUESTONE (Roumania); VALENSTEIN (Russia)