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Re: Illegal Transport Passenger Lists
Lewis, Megan
Dear Leah, The United States Holocaust Memorial Museum has some material about illegal immigration to Palestine in our archives collection. You can search our Collections Search catalog, https://collections.ushmm.org. I would also check the Central Zionist Archives which also has material on immigrations during this time period. We have records about the Kladovo transport from archives in Croatia and Serbia. I did not check to see if these collections have the passenger list. Information about conducting research at the Museum is at https://www.ushmm.org/collections/plan-a-research-visit. We are unable to conduct in-depth research for patrons. Sincerely, Megan Lewis Megan Lewis Reference Librarian 202.314.7860 National Institute for Holocaust Documentation United States Holocaust Memorial Museum www.ushmm.org NEVER AGAIN: WHAT YOU DO MATTERS Support the Campaign for the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum
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Re: Visiting Poland
#poland
pacmgr@...
Google. Tad Taube, he is a bay area philanthropist very involved with Poland. He is one of the major funders of the Jewish Museum in Warsaw and is an honorary consul of Poland. He also has a travel agency in Warsaw.
Lots to see, including the remmnants of the gGhetto in Warsaw and from Krakow a visit to Auschwitz. Krakow is a beautiful and charming city with a Jewish quarter and important cemetary. Jon
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ViewMate Translation Request - Yiddish
Sue Okun
I've posted a page from a program from a Kosheveta (or Koshowater) Benevolent Society and Relief Fund Ball and Dance, New York, 1948. It is on ViewMate at the following address: http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM76507 Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page. Thank you so much for your help! Sue Okun
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Re: ViewMate translation request - Russian (not Polish)
Dave Orens
Update: I've been informed the document I posted yesterday is written in Russian (script), not Polish. My public thanks to the volunteer who has
already assisted.
Regards,
David
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I've posted a vital record in Polish for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM76564
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page. Thank you very much. David Orens
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ViewMate translation request-Russian post card
Amoz Chernoff
Because of the request to post to a new address, I repeat the following:
I've posted a postcard in Russian for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address ... http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM76464 Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page. Thank you very much. Amoz Chernoff
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Translation of gravestones in Mikhaliski, Belarus
Ellie Roden
Thanks to a kind Genner, I have the translation in English of a list
of 98 gravestone inscriptions from Mikhaliski, Belarus. These gravestones were recovered and restored sometime In the early 1990’s. I will gladly share this list with anyone who is interested. Ellie Roden Wilmington, Vermont USA
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Searching for a Cohen family
#southafrica
Marcus Shapiro
I am looking to make contact with descendants of Bennie Cohen of
Johannesburg and his wife Doreen nee Silverman. Bennie passed in 1943 aged 54. I believe they had 3 children: Naomi (b 1930), Ruth (b 1933) and Leonard /Leon (b 1936). Ruth may have been a school teacher and may have married a Doctor based in Pretoria. This family (Bennie) were related to a Samuel Myers and wife Dora nee Morrison who ran the Bethlehem Hotel (Samuel's mother being a Cohen). Marcus Shapiro
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Re: Wissotzky tea company Moscow
#southafrica
Louise Goldschmidt <alfredlouise@...>
Dear forum,
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Seeing this letter >from Geraldine reminds me I heard that a Cohen cousin who married a Sager went to live in Kimberley. She was related probably sister of Amelia Gelberg born Cohen. Is there any record of her going >from London. Love to everyone Louise Goldschmidt
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Re: Visiting Poland
#poland
Check out Leora Tec on Bridge to Poland on web. She may see this anyway and reply to you directly as she’s active in Jewish genealogy. I went on her tour of Jewish Poland last May. Unmissable and unforgettable.
Carole Shaw, London UK SCHNEIDER: Kamanets Podolsk, Ukraine & Libau/Libava/Liepaja, Latvia KLUGMAN, GOLDSCHMID (plus variations), BRAUER: Libava/Libau/Liepaja, Latvia, Johannesburg ROSENTHAL, ZUSCHNEIDER: Lublin, Poland GREENBERG, BRZOZA/BJOZHA, SOBERSKI: Lomza/Nowogrod, Poland SAMSON, BLIK: Amsterdam, Zandvoort, Holland
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Issue #140 of Genealo-J has just been published
#sephardic
Georges Graner
Genealo-J, publication of the Jewish Genealogical Society of France,
Issue 140, December 2019 has just been published Anne-Marie Fribourg noted that a large number of Jews left Lorraine around 1850 and especially >from the city of Hellimer to go to Brazil. Most of them were jewelers. Some settled in Brazil but most of them went back to France later. They founded prosperous companies with a branch in Brazil and another one in France. Among the families quoted by the authors, one finds those of Mayer Cain dit Lambert, of Alexandre Abraham Gerson, of Gerson Gerson, of Louis Ongre, of Simon Levy, of Edouard Daniel, and of Samuel Lion. Detailed family trees are given for each of these families. Paul Misraki (1908-1998) was a very famous French composer just before and just after World War II. Several of the songs he composed for the band of Ray Ventura are still very popular in France nowadays. Genevieve Haroche-Bouzinac tells us Misraki's life. Paul Misrachi (the original spelling of his name) belongs to a wealthy family of Salonika but his parents moved to Constantinople before his birth. In 1910, his father was promoted to a position in Bucarest (Romania) where the whole family settled. When Romania entered the war, life in Bucarest became dangerous and they left the city in 1916. They made a very long travel by train through Romania, Russia (Saint-Petersburg), Finland, Sweden, followed by a boat trip to England and to Marseilles. Paul studies in Marseilles but is much more interested by music than by the insurance company suggested by his father. He begins to compose songs and in 1929 joins the band of Ray Ventura, first as the pianist and later as the official composer of the band. The band is more and more popular and makes many tours all over Europe and North Africa. In May 1941, the German authorities banned Ray Ventura and Paul Misraki, although Paul converted to catholicism in 1938. Ray Ventura was lucky enough to obtain visas for Brazil for his whole group. Later, in 1945, Paul is retained by Hollywood where he works with Marlene Dietrich, Jean-Pierre Aumont, and Maria Montez. He then comes back to France where his whole family has been killed by the Nazis. Ray Ventura's band is dissolved in 1947. Thereafter, Paul becomes essentially a movie film composer for many famous producers. L'Alliance Israelite Universelle (AIU) was founded in 1860 to teach in the French language the Jews of several countries in the Ottoman Empire, Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, and Morocco. AIU has today an huge amount of archives. A group of members of our Society has begun to analyze these archives in order to help AIU and also to extract interesting genealogical pieces of information. Philippe Danan presents what is done concerning Morocco where AIU was implemented as early as 1862. In 1914, 28 schools were present in 13 cities of this country which concerned more than 3000 boys and 2000 girls. .The available documents are extremely heterogeneous: letters of directors or professors of schools addressed to the parisian office of AIU, lists of pupils and apprentices,notables, people financially helped, members of AIU, adults attending evening lessons as well as descriptions of rites or traditions. Our group insists on collecting all names, whatever their origin. The task is huge and will take several years. Georges Graner
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Ashkenazi DNA percentage question
#dna
richard may
Dear community,
I have 1 known Ashkenazi great grandparent of 8. One eight is 12.5%. According to 23andMe, FTDNA, AncestryDNA and MyHeritage DNA my DNA is about 20% Ashkenazi. All agree on this. This is 1.6 times more Ashkenazi DNA than I can account for genealogically. Is it more likely that I have an undiscovered ancestor with Ashkenazi DNA, who perhaps assimilated, or that I simply inherited more than half of my grandparent's Ashkenazi DNA? Thank you for your kind erudite help! Richard May ferdlilac@yahoo.com North Carolina, U.S.A.
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Illegal Transport Passenger Lists
Sniderlh
I am new to this discussion group, but thought I would jump right in with questions concerning family who fled Vienna, Austria following the Anschluss in 1938. In particular I am interested in gathering more information regarding a cousin of my father's, and his wife.
In Dec.1938, this cousin left for Palestine. I heard he sailed on board the CHEPO, which I found left from Tulcea, Romania and arrived undetected at Netanya. My questions would be: 1) Does a passenger transport list exist somewhere (Israel, Romania, Austria) for those who sailed on this voyage? 2) How did he likely travel from Vienna to Tulcea? (train, boat) I do know he made it safely, and lived the rest of his life in Palestine/now Israel.
His wife is a trickier situation. I have a document from the Joint Distribution Committee telling of her death in Oct,1941; it said she was killed by the Germans in Zasavitza near Sabac in October. The document is dated 1945. From my research, I am guessing she was among the unfortunates in the Kladovo Transport group, but would like to substantiate that thought. If so, my questions here would be: 1) Does a list of those in the group, exist, and if so, where & can I see an actual copy of it? 2) If she sailed on the URANUS, is there an existing passenger list for that voyage, somewhere? 3) If she was in the Kladovo Group, I read it started out in Nov 1939. Was there any documented contact with the group over those years the tragedy played out in the various locations?
I would appreciate any help from those with more knowledge, and/or those who have family members they researched in similar circumstances. Right now I feel I am coming across conflicting details, and would like to clarify whatever I can.
Thank you,
Leah
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ViewMate translation request - Polish
Dave Orens
I've posted a vital record in Polish for which I need a translation. It is on ViewMate at the following address ...
http://www.jewishgen.org/viewmate/viewmateview.asp?key=VM76564
Please respond via the form provided on the ViewMate image page. Thank you very much. David Orens
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Re: Help finding ancestor's grave in Israel - died around 1900
Chicago Bubby
I realized that I should add his name: Yehuda Leib Perlman (Perelman/Pearlman)
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Re: Surprising DNA results from Ancestry
Eva Lawrence
Alberto People live in communities and are influenced by them. Most of my genealogical discoveries have been made by looking at patterns of behaviour, or by investigating why a norm has not been followed. Even stereotypes are only conclusions reached from experience, and the wider your experience, the more useful they become.. Eva Lawrence St Albans, UK.
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Help finding ancestor's grave in Israel - died around 1900
Chicago Bubby
For many years we have been searching for the grave of my husband's 3rd great-grandfather who supposedly died in Palestine around 1900. Family history has it that he had lived in Kapyl (also known as Kapulya in Minsk Province), and around 1888 at an old age had gone to live in Jerusalem to die there. He supposedly died there around 1900. We have contacted all of the Jerusalem area Chevra Kadishas as well as the HaDarom cemetery in the Tel Aviv vicinity and have used all online tools and search engines and have not found anything.
Does anyone have any further idea as to how to how to find his burial place?
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Issue #140 of Genealo-J has just been published
#france
Georges Graner
Genealo-J, publication of the Jewish Genealogical Society of France,
Issue 140, December 2019 has just been published Anne-Marie Fribourg noted that a large number of Jews left Lorraine around 1850 and especially >from the city of Hellimer to go to Brazil. Most of them were jewelers. Some settled in Brazil but most of them went back to France later. They founded prosperous companies with a branch in Brazil and another one in France. Among the families quoted by the authors, one finds those of Mayer Cain dit Lambert, of Alexandre Abraham Gerson, of Gerson Gerson, of Louis Ongre, of Simon Levy, of Edouard Daniel, and of Samuel Lion. Detailed family trees are given for each of these families. Paul Misraki (1908-1998) was a very famous French composer just before and just after World War II. Several of the songs he composed for the band of Ray Ventura are still very popular in France nowadays. Geneviève Haroche-Bouzinac tells us Misraki’s life. Paul Misrachi (the original spelling of his name) belongs to a wealthy family of Salonika but his parents moved to Constantinople before his birth. In 1910, his father was promoted to a position in Bucarest (Romania) where the whole family settled. When Romania entered the war, life in Bucarest became dangerous and they left the city in 1916. They made a very long travel by train through Romania, Russia (Saint-Petersburg), Finland, Sweden, followed by a boat trip to England and to Marseilles. Paul studies in Marseilles but is much more interested by music than by the insurance company suggested by his father. He begins to compose songs and in 1929 joins the band of Ray Ventura, first as the pianist and later as the official composer of the band. The band is more and more popular and makes many tours all over Europe and North Africa. In May 1941, the German authorities banned Ray Ventura and Paul Misraki, although Paul converted to catholicism in 1938. Ray Ventura was lucky enough to obtain visas for Brazil for his whole group. Later, in 1945, Paul is retained by Hollywood where he works with Marlene Dietrich, Jean-Pierre Aumont, and Maria Montez. He then comes back to France where his whole family has been killed by the Nazis. Ray Ventura's band is dissolved in 1947. Thereafter, Paul becomes essentially a movie film composer for many famous producers. L'Alliance Israelite Universelle (AIU) was founded in 1860 to teach in the French language the Jews of several countries in the Ottoman Empire, Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, and Morocco. AIU has today an huge amount of archives. A group of members of our Society has begun to analyze these archives in order to help AIU and also to extract interesting genealogical pieces of information. Philippe Danan presents what is done concerning Morocco where AIU was implemented as early as 1862. In 1914, 28 schools were present in 13 cities of this country which concerned more than 3000 boys and 2000 girls. .The available documents are extremely heterogeneous: letters of directors or professors of schools addressed to the Parisian office of AIU, lists of pupils and apprentices,notables, people financially helped, members of AIU, adults attending evening lessons as well as descriptions of rites or traditions. Our group insists on collecting all names, whatever their origin. The task is huge and will take several years.
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Sending messages to the SIG List ....
#france
Rosanne Leeson
Dear fellow FrenchSIG members,
It is time for a reminder on how to properly respond to messages sent from the FrenchSIG (or any other SIG)if you receive your mail via the mail DIGEST. 1 - Please do NOT hit your Reply key! This drags the entire Digest along with it, and is impossible for the Moderators to send out. 2 - Please start a new message with your reply, etc. You may reference briefly the item to which you are responding. Thank you for your attention to this procedure, which will make your answers more effective. Rosanne Leeson Co-Coordinator FrenchSIG
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Issue #140 of Genealo-J has just been published
#germany
Georges Graner
Genealo-J, publication of the Jewish Genealogical Society of France,
Issue 140, December 2019 has just been published Anne-Marie Fribourg noted that a large number of Jews left Lorraine around 1850 and especially >from the city of Hellimer to go to Brazil. Most of them were jewelers. Some settled in Brazil but most of them went back to France later. They founded prosperous companies with a branch in Brazil and another one in France. Among the families quoted by the authors, one finds those of Mayer Cain dit Lambert, of Alexandre Abraham Gerson, of Gerson Gerson, of Louis Ongre, of Simon Levy, of Edouard Daniel, and of Samuel Lion. Detailed family trees are given for each of these families. Paul Misraki (1908-1998) was a very famous French composer just before and just after World War II. Several of the songs he composed for the band of Ray Ventura are still very popular in France nowadays. Genevive Haroche-Bouzinac tells us Misrakiâ's life. Paul Misrachi (the original spelling of his name) belongs to a wealthy family of Salonika but his parents moved to Constantinople before his birth. In 1910, his father was promoted to a position in Bucarest (Romania) where the whole family settled. When Romania entered the war, life in Bucarest became dangerous and they left the city in 1916. They made a very long travel by train through Romania, Russia (Saint-Petersburg), Finland, Sweden, followed by a boat trip to England and to Marseilles. Paul studies in Marseilles but is much more interested by music than by the insurance company suggested by his father. He begins to compose songs and in 1929 joins the band of Ray Ventura, first as the pianist and later as the official composer of the band. The band is more and more popular and makes many tours all over Europe and North Africa. In May 1941, the German authorities banned Ray Ventura and Paul Misraki, although Paul converted to catholicism in 1938. Ray Ventura was lucky enough to obtain visas for Brazil for his whole group. Later, in 1945, Paul is retained by Hollywood where he works with Marlene Dietrich, Jean-Pierre Aumont, and Maria Montez. He then comes back to France where his whole family has been killed by the Nazis. Ray Ventura’s band is dissolved in 1947. Thereafter, Paul becomes essentially a movie film composer for many famous producers. L’Alliance Israelite Universelle (AIU) was founded in 1860 to teach in the French language the Jews of several countries in the Ottoman Empire, Egypt, Libya, Tunisia, and Morocco. AIU has today an huge amount of archives. A group of members of our Society has begun to analyze these archives in order to help AIU and also to extract interesting genealogical pieces of information. Philippe Danan presents what is done concerning Morocco where AIU was implemented as early as 1862. In 1914, 28 schools were present in 13 cities of this country which concerned more than 3000 boys and 2000 girls. .The available documents are extremely heterogeneous : letters of directors or professors of schools addressed to the parisian office of AIU, lists of pupils and apprentices,notables, people financially helped, members of AIU, adults attending evening lessons as well as descriptions of rites or traditions. Our group insists on collecting all names, whatever their origin. The task is huge and will take several years. Georges Graner in France georges.graner@wanadoo.fr
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Re: Prenuptial agrreement
#germany
Eva Lawrence
Abraham Liebmann's prenuptial agreement >from Trier expresses amounts in
two ways, where the first amount is 210% of the second. I've looked at the original manuscript, and I think that the second, smaller amount is in French francs, and the first denomination is francs el (e has an acute accent) standing for ecu locale, i.e.. local-exchange francs, which would be worth less. Eva Lawrence, St Albans, UK eva.lawrence@idnet.com
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